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Posted: 10/31/2014 4:33:28 PM EDT
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Is there something official posted about this somewhere?
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Posted: 11/3/2014 8:17:32 AM EDT
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I've been waiting all summer for them, now I get to keep my wood handguards and don't have to drill anything.
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Posted: 11/7/2014 6:48:01 PM EDT
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link?
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Posted: 11/7/2014 7:52:25 PM EDT
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link? You guys talking about this? 
If so, ready to put in cart at: https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=38_53&products_id=420&osCsid=a8b76fac91df28c8e4da3912d4289a50 - OS |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 11:09:44 PM EDT
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link? [email protected] <[email protected]>
Oct 28 (10 days ago) to xxxxxx Good morning, About March of this I contacted you about availability of the Dogleg cover for the Zastava M92 Pap. I was informed that one would be out in last of summer. Are you near to releasing this item for sale yet? xxxxx,xxxxx to me
Mr. I am happy to inform production has already been started on the M92’s. Soon we will be sending them off for anodizing (7-10 days) and on the market in no time! Best regards, xxxxx Texas Weapon Systems, Corp. |
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Posted: 11/7/2014 11:49:49 PM EDT
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You guys talking about this? https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/images/M15yugo.jpg?osCsid=a8b76fac91df28c8e4da3912d4289a50 If so, ready to put in cart at: https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=38_53&products_id=420&osCsid=a8b76fac91df28c8e4da3912d4289a50 - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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link? You guys talking about this? https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/images/M15yugo.jpg?osCsid=a8b76fac91df28c8e4da3912d4289a50 If so, ready to put in cart at: https://www.texasshooterssupply.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=38_53&products_id=420&osCsid=a8b76fac91df28c8e4da3912d4289a50 - OS That is a Ultimak made top rail/gas tube. Texas Weaopns Systems is a totally different company, they make railed top covers (the sheet metal cover over the bolt carrier and behind the rear sight block) |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 5:52:18 PM EDT
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Its out now, I just ordred mine. |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 7:00:00 PM EDT
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Do they have one for a micro draco?
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Posted: 11/24/2014 7:04:09 PM EDT
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http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-6T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-2T.jpg?1416760142 Its out now, I just ordred mine. Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 7:10:59 PM EDT
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Just ordered one with the peep sight. It'll be nice to do away with the old irons.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 7:17:17 PM EDT
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Just ordered one with the peep sight. It'll be nice to do away with the old irons. The peep sight is main reason I'm tempted. - OS |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 10:36:13 PM EDT
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Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-6T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-2T.jpg?1416760142 Its out now, I just ordred mine. Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS I sure hope so... I didn't check. I will be sorta pissed if not |
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Posted: 11/24/2014 11:35:38 PM EDT
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Nice. Hopefully they make one for the Russian/Bulgarian pattern krinks.
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Posted: 11/24/2014 11:49:16 PM EDT
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:08:53 AM EDT
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Dang, I would have gotten one just for that peep sight. Unfortunately I already have mounted a rail that required me to drill and tap two holes. It works just fine but that TWS system is nicer. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 10:46:22 AM EDT
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The primary reason I'm interested in this is because my rear sight block is crooked and I don't want my front post to be pushed too far over in order to zero the gun.
For those with more experience with the TWS cover on other rifles (I used to use one too), have there been any adjustable rear sights that are decently compatible? I'm only aware of the Kel-Tec SU-16 rear sight that is windage adjustable and also being the right height. |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 5:32:28 PM EDT
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Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-6T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-2T.jpg?1416760142 Its out now, I just ordred mine. Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS Mr. George,
Everything you need will come in the kit including the new M92 hinge pin and bolt. Rail Kit Contents • Rail • Dog Leg Tab with screws (installed on rail) • Release button with attached wire • Instruction sheet Let us know if you need anything else. Best regards, Gabriela Texas Weapon Systems, Corp. 512-554-1136 |
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Posted: 11/25/2014 6:53:33 PM EDT
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http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-6T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-4T.jpg?1416760142 http://cdn3.volusion.com/auodl.fkneh/v/vspfiles/photos/32315-2T.jpg?1416760142 Its out now, I just ordred mine. Very cool. Looking at it on site there, unclear if it comes with the hinge pin? Or have to get it separately? - OS Mr. George,
Everything you need will come in the kit including the new M92 hinge pin and bolt. Rail Kit Contents • Rail • Dog Leg Tab with screws (installed on rail) • Release button with attached wire • Instruction sheet Let us know if you need anything else. Best regards, Gabriela Texas Weapon Systems, Corp. 512-554-1136 https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=2%5f0%5f0%5f1%5f7162921%5fAKLmjkQAABAXVHTGdw4lGKz6p4w&m=YaDownload&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1&appid=yahoomail Was just coming in to post same thing, as I emailed them last night too. Got quick response, always a big plus. - OS |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 1:33:44 AM EDT
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hmmmm, tempting. Wondering if I could machine some of that pic rail flat and then mount one of the new primary arms reflex sights on there and still get good cowitness with the irons...
 Maybe I wouldn't even have too. The bottom of the base to the red dot is about 5/8". Who has one of these covers can can measure peep sight center to pic rail for me? 
***updated*** maybe I should read manufacturer's www sites more often. This image is encouraging, and not just because I like MARPAT... 
Now all we need is a weak-side charging version and someone to do some carrier conversions... |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 6:27:14 AM EDT
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I'm assuming these also work with the M85?
Mick |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 10:54:36 AM EDT
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I'm assuming these also work with the M85? Mick "Some M92 pistols are configured with a bulged front trunnion and will not work with this top cover. Please confirm your pistol matches the standard front trunnion shown in these images." Every M85 I've seen had a bulged trunnion, so probably not. |
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Posted: 11/28/2014 8:04:42 PM EDT
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Just installed mine.
For anyone else with one on the way, you're gonna have to destroy the peened washer/pin that the OEM dust cover hinges on. You can use a punch, but I found it easier to just dremel it with a cutting wheel. Other than that it's smooth and painless. Lower cowitnesses nicely. 
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Posted: 11/28/2014 10:57:20 PM EDT
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Does the rear peep line up with the front sight?
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Posted: 11/28/2014 11:58:44 PM EDT
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Do they have one for a micro draco? Actually, the standard AK cover part number 32310 does fit the Mini Draco. TWS |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:03:03 AM EDT
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The peep sight is main reason I'm tempted. - OS That's a good reason all by itself. Having the peep sight waaaay at the back truly does transform the weapon. TWS |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:05:35 AM EDT
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Nice. Hopefully they make one for the Russian/Bulgarian pattern krinks. Those are a different animal and unfortunately we just don't get many requests for these. On the positive side, because the front tab can be removed it is possible to have a gunsmith make a custom piece for you. TWS |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:08:36 AM EDT
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I'm assuming these also work with the M85? Mick No, they don't work with the M85. The M85 has a bulged front trunnion and this cover is not compatible. We will have the M85 model available after Dec 15. TWS |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 12:34:16 AM EDT
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Just installed mine. For anyone else with one on the way, you're gonna have to destroy the peened washer/pin that the OEM dust cover hinges on. You can use a punch, but I found it easier to just dremel it with a cutting wheel. Other than that it's smooth and painless. Lower cowitnesses nicely. http://i.imgur.com/o8ryg71.jpg Looks good. I just got mine installed... quick and easy. I used a 1/8 punch to remove the peened washer/pin dustcover hinge, it came out in 4 whacks. The hardest part was putting the spring retention button back on the spring guide without a vice but it got done. This Dogleg rail/cover mounts up solid, absolutely no detectable movement when locked into position. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 1:56:06 AM EDT
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Does the rear peep line up with the front sight? Perfectly, it is SUCH an improvement. Quoted:
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Just installed mine. For anyone else with one on the way, you're gonna have to destroy the peened washer/pin that the OEM dust cover hinges on. You can use a punch, but I found it easier to just dremel it with a cutting wheel. Other than that it's smooth and painless. Lower cowitnesses nicely. http://i.imgur.com/o8ryg71.jpg Looks good. I just got mine installed... quick and easy. I used a 1/8 punch to remove the peened washer/pin dustcover hinge, it came out in 4 whacks. The hardest part was putting the spring retention button back on the spring guide without a vice but it got done. This Dogleg rail/cover mounts up solid, absolutely no detectable movement when locked into position. Yeah that was rough, strongly advise gloves there. I tried sticking it in the vise but by hand was easier for me. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 2:57:07 AM EDT
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Sweeet!
Has anyone tested if it returns to zero? (assuming it does) |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 3:56:12 AM EDT
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap. Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 1:11:27 PM EDT
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Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap. Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... Options  ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.
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Posted: 11/29/2014 5:29:37 PM EDT
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Options ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap. Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... Options ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.Cool....figured that was probably the case right after I posted. I've got a Renegade on my M92 and love it, and have two TWS Dogleg rails on my M70 Yugo Underfolder and my SLR 101.... The TWS Dogleg is a great piece of gear, I just didnt see using them on the M92's. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 9:08:36 PM EDT
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Cool....figured that was probably the case right after I posted. I've got a Renegade on my M92 and love it, and have two TWS Dogleg rails on my M70 Yugo Underfolder and my SLR 101.... The TWS Dogleg is a great piece of gear, I just didnt see using them on the M92's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap. Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... Options ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.Cool....figured that was probably the case right after I posted. I've got a Renegade on my M92 and love it, and have two TWS Dogleg rails on my M70 Yugo Underfolder and my SLR 101.... The TWS Dogleg is a great piece of gear, I just didnt see using them on the M92's. I didnt think it would make a huge difference either except for better optic mounting solutions... but the peep sight all the way in the rear, doubling the sight radius is pretty helpful ,faster to line-up than the pistol sight. |
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Posted: 11/29/2014 11:36:09 PM EDT
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disreguard
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Posted: 11/30/2014 2:11:28 PM EDT
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Options ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be great if they made a version of the front hand guard for the pap. Why? Manticore Arms makes the Renegade fore arm you can mount rails to wherever needed... Options ... I like the look of the TWS handguard. I like the Manticore Hanguard though and it is on the list.Yes, they're coming :) Can't quote a date just yet. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 5:24:10 PM EDT
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Since standard TWS covers use the leaf spring for tension, what does the M92 version use, considering they do not have the same rear sight setup?
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Posted: 12/1/2014 8:27:04 PM EDT
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Since standard TWS covers use the leaf spring for tension, what does the M92 version use, considering they do not have the same rear sight setup? The hinge block of the M92 is much more precise and robust than the rear sight block of a standard AK. For this reason we're able to machine a precision 4mm hinge bolt with a distorted thread lock nut to keep everything nice and tight during the vibration of shooting. |
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Posted: 12/1/2014 9:52:58 PM EDT
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The hinge block of the M92 is much more precise and robust than the rear sight block of a standard AK. For this reason we're able to machine a precision 4mm hinge bolt with a distorted thread lock nut to keep everything nice and tight during the vibration of shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since standard TWS covers use the leaf spring for tension, what does the M92 version use, considering they do not have the same rear sight setup? The hinge block of the M92 is much more precise and robust than the rear sight block of a standard AK. For this reason we're able to machine a precision 4mm hinge bolt with a distorted thread lock nut to keep everything nice and tight during the vibration of shooting. The dogleg locks up tight. Has a more solid feel than the original dust cover. Absolutely no wobble. The peep sight is just a bonus on the massively increased sight radius. 
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Posted: 12/2/2014 6:16:15 PM EDT
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Nice rail, need to get one.
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Posted: 12/2/2014 10:14:34 PM EDT
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. Something like this: http://www.dsarms.com/p-11632-fal-sa58-para-rear-flip-sight-assembly-includes-2-screws-and-sspring.aspx Mick |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 5:21:01 PM EDT
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. +100 |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 5:53:54 PM EDT
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. +100 Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 6:14:27 PM EDT
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Height is all wrong for using an Ar15 rear sight (too tall)...
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Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. +100 Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 6:16:02 PM EDT
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Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. +100 Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS It would be insanely taller than the front post, completely inhibiting any ability to properly zero the rifle and a complete lack of any cheek weld without a 2 inch thick riser. |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 7:06:43 PM EDT
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It would be insanely taller than the front post, completely inhibiting any ability to properly zero the rifle and a complete lack of any cheek weld without a 2 inch thick riser. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suggestion for TWS. How about a new version of the rear sight with protective ears that uses an AR-15 flip aperture?
It would look more original and be similar to the two position unit that is OEM. +100 Seems to be standard rail that accepts Weaver/Picatinny stuff. Just pop an AR rear sight right on there, folding or fixed, adjustable for windage too. Am I missing something? - OS It would be insanely taller than the front post, completely inhibiting any ability to properly zero the rifle and a complete lack of any cheek weld without a 2 inch thick riser. Well, alrighty then. I thought could probably raise front post enough to compensate, guess not. And yeah, I reckon you would have at best a chin weld with whatever though even if it would. - OS |
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Posted: 12/3/2014 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Is the peep sight included on this model or did you guys have to order it too?
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Posted: 12/4/2014 12:48:28 AM EDT
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You have to order it--it's $40.
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Posted: 12/4/2014 1:38:19 AM EDT
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So I've got it and I'm trying to figure this out:
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Posted: 12/4/2014 4:17:09 PM EDT
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So I've got it and I'm trying to figure this out:
I didnt know what the hell that was referring to. I assumed the same as you did and just installed it. Turns out as far as I can tell that is exactly what it is referring too. It states to make light contact when adjusting the cover to the gun to maintain gas tube rention pressure but light enough not to damage the cover. |
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