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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:06:24 AM EDT
Isn't the traditional slant muzzle "brake" on AKs really a compensator than a brake? A brake lowers recoil, a compensator decreases the muzzle moving in a certain direction. If I'm not mistaken, the traditional slant muzzle brake will make the recoil go more straight backward, rather than back and on an angle. Also if I'm not mistaken, it also helps prevent muzzle flip, and it makes the rifle flip straight up, rather than on an angle.

Can someone recommend a compensator/flash hider for an AK? I don't want a muzzle brake that lowers recoil because they are loud and I rather have my shoulder be hit than my ears.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 9:50:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dmk0210] [#1]
The M16A2 brake is a good combination of brake and comp. There are 1x14LH versions out there.  CNC Warrior has one, plus a few other flash hider designs.  https://www.cncwarrior.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1884

The AKM slant brake was designed because it was determined on full auto the AK went up and to one side (can't remember which side offhand). It's just a simple cup to direct gasses to counter that.  It's useless for semi-auto fire.

Link Posted: 4/17/2024 9:57:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dmk0210:
The M16A2 brake is a good combination of brake and comp. There are 1x14LH versions out there.  CNC Warrior has one, plus a few other flash hider designs.  https://www.cncwarrior.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1884

The AKM slant brake was designed because it was determined on full auto the AK went up and to one side (can't remember which side offhand).

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If you can find them the Draco A2 compensators have three position detent stops so you can time them to have a counter the torque effect
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 11:43:11 AM EDT
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ETA: Oops, reading is fundamental, I need more coffee.
Link Posted: 4/18/2024 11:09:16 PM EDT
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The old taco slot break that looks like a cuts compensator off a Thompson smg is a good one as well. Hard to find these days though.
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 4:35:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/3/2024 5:59:42 PM EDT
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@Whiterabbit2u

Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:22:06 PM EDT
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What threads do you have?

A Surefire Warcomp is decent. I prefer straight up flash hiders though. The older Battle Comps I’ve used are nice.

I know Surefire makes batches of 14x1 LH flash hiders. I doubt they make a WarComp in 14x1 LH but I may be wrong.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 10:45:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By peacematu:
Can someone recommend a compensator/flash hider for an AK? I don't want a muzzle brake that lowers recoil because they are loud and I rather have my shoulder be hit than my ears.
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Not being snarky but I don't understand this part

In my experience most all brake/compensators are louder than flash hiders or a bare muzzle, and we'd normally be wearing ear pro...so I am not understanding why quieter is better than lower recoil. Lower recoil affects accuracy, but loudness doesn't

So again, not taking a piss but I didn't catch your point. Is this maybe for self defence for example, and in that example you might not have time for ear pro?

What'd I'd recommend is the classic 74 brake mostl...because I'm not aware of any compensator that is quieter. I don't use many brakes other than the AK74 model, or whatever QD brake comes from the suppressor manufacturer if I use a suppressor on a given AK74

It may not line up with what you're asking, but my subjective opinion is that there isn't much of a difference in loudness, they all will do a number on your ears, but like I said I probably don't understand what you're asking


Link Posted: 5/4/2024 10:55:46 PM EDT
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I have the Spikes Dynacom and also the AK battlecomp.

Both work well.

Not too loud.

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Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:04:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By themao:
What threads do you have?

A Surefire Warcomp is decent. I prefer straight up flash hiders though. The older Battle Comps I’ve used are nice.

I know Surefire makes batches of 14x1 LH flash hiders. I doubt they make a WarComp in 14x1 LH but I may be wrong.
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@themao

Yugo.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 4:14:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:

Not being snarky but I don't understand this part

In my experience most all brake/compensators are louder than flash hiders or a bare muzzle, and we'd normally be wearing ear pro...so I am not understanding why quieter is better than lower recoil. Lower recoil affects accuracy, but loudness doesn't

So again, not taking a piss but I didn't catch your point. Is this maybe for self defence for example, and in that example you might not have time for ear pro?

What'd I'd recommend is the classic 74 brake mostl...because I'm not aware of any compensator that is quieter. I don't use many brakes other than the AK74 model, or whatever QD brake comes from the suppressor manufacturer if I use a suppressor on a given AK74

It may not line up with what you're asking, but my subjective opinion is that there isn't much of a difference in loudness, they all will do a number on your ears, but like I said I probably don't understand what you're asking


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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
Originally Posted By peacematu:
Can someone recommend a compensator/flash hider for an AK? I don't want a muzzle brake that lowers recoil because they are loud and I rather have my shoulder be hit than my ears.

Not being snarky but I don't understand this part

In my experience most all brake/compensators are louder than flash hiders or a bare muzzle, and we'd normally be wearing ear pro...so I am not understanding why quieter is better than lower recoil. Lower recoil affects accuracy, but loudness doesn't

So again, not taking a piss but I didn't catch your point. Is this maybe for self defence for example, and in that example you might not have time for ear pro?

What'd I'd recommend is the classic 74 brake mostl...because I'm not aware of any compensator that is quieter. I don't use many brakes other than the AK74 model, or whatever QD brake comes from the suppressor manufacturer if I use a suppressor on a given AK74

It may not line up with what you're asking, but my subjective opinion is that there isn't much of a difference in loudness, they all will do a number on your ears, but like I said I probably don't understand what you're asking




Unless I'm mistaken, brakes decrease recoil but are louder than bare muzzle. Also if I'm not mistaken, compensators don't make a rifle louder than bare muzzle, they just mitigate muzzle flip.

I lost some hearing during my 50 something years and rather avoid losing any more. That's why I'll take recoil over loudness. Therefore, I'm interested in a flash hider/compensator combo or just a flash hider.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 6:39:44 AM EDT
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I’m a big fan of the 4 piece brakes.

Cnc warrior has some at a fair price. Along with CSS.

They are also combloc correct.

Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:22:59 AM EDT
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A lot of it with brakes come down to the direction of the volume and flash.  So many of the gun-gamer brakes and comps are brutal to be anywhere near when shooting.  I mean, yeah, guns are really loud but we don’t need to take it out on our fellow shooters.

I also survived the 94-04 AWB so there’s a part of me that recoils at the thought of choosing a brake/comp over a flash hider.  People willingly do that, ha?  I do make exceptions for the AK-74 brake because it is correct for the rifle and awesome.  It’s nicely designed, extremely functional, and I don’t find it punishing to be around.  I also have a handful of AAC Brakeout 2.0 devices I’m playing with on some of my .308 rifles.  Best or worst of both worlds?

I’m going to guess it is a full size Yugo like an M70 since you mentioned the slant comp, which would be 14m threads.  Aside from being cheap and correct for an AKM they suck at anything and everything else outside of full auto mag dumps.  I tend to replace mine with 3/4-prong style flash hiders.  My favorite was the AAC Blackout non-mount one but new-AAC hasn’t brought them back yet.  I have a 51T Blackout on a thread adapter on my M70 at the moment to test if my resto-modded SDN-6 works better on AKs now.  Some others:

JMac 4-prong/G36 14M @ Brownells. (I’m accumulating parts for an M70 underfolder that is making its way to me and this was my personal choice to replace the slant comp.)

Manticore Eclipse 14M @ RTG Parts

You may be able to do better on prices if you hunt around but they are usually fair.  Jmac and Dead Air also have some similar Keymo flash hiders if you’re looking for that compatibility.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:26:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By peacematu:


Unless I'm mistaken, brakes decrease recoil but are louder than bare muzzle. Also if I'm not mistaken, compensators don't make a rifle louder than bare muzzle, they just mitigate muzzle flip.
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I think this is basically correct, though I and most people these days tend to call everything a "brake" rather than distinguish between a brake and a comp. Not 100% sure which is the correct terminology for them but I think yours is the correct one.

It gets more complicated because many muzzle devices are both a comp and a brake.


Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:35:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Findsman:
.  I tend to replace mine with 3/4-prong style flash hiders.  
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That's what I use on my Vepr, and it's surprisingly effective. Old 3-prong style, timed to where one prong is at bottom dead center and thus a gap at top dead center, so it actually gives a bit of compensation too. Have never tried it at night though.

ETA: Man how times change, when I bought mine a few years back it was 7 bucks, now they're 14 bucks, thanks Biden you idiot.

Still pretty cheap for a muzzle device I guess.

Link Posted: 5/6/2024 2:37:05 PM EDT
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I have been happy with my battlecomp AKBC. I think it’s one of the most expensive options. It’s not crazy loud. I have not shot it at night to see how much it works as a flash hider.

Link Posted: 5/7/2024 5:17:07 PM EDT
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JMACS might make what you want then, 14x1 LH.

If you want a suppressor host and use HUX WRX, they make not too loud muzzle brakes. I use their flash hider and like it.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 5:17:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mah827:
I have been happy with my battlecomp AKBC. I think it’s one of the most expensive options. It’s not crazy loud. I have not shot it at night to see how much it works as a flash hider.

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Agree with this option. I took my Battle Comp off my AR long ago though when I started buying cans.
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