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Posted: 10/18/2014 1:58:26 PM EDT
It seems everyone has problems with the bolt catch roll pin when building a AR15 lower. I see the 308 lowers have the back side where the bolt catch installed tapped and allows the use of a screw pin.

Anybody ever hear if this being done with a standard lower?

Just wondering

Link Posted: 10/18/2014 2:07:21 PM EDT
[#1]

yup, several are.





but nobody really has issues with the bolt catch roll pin....


Link Posted: 10/18/2014 3:24:30 PM EDT
[#2]
i did mine. worked great
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 4:33:53 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm not having problems with the roll pin.
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 6:11:21 PM EDT
[#4]
Having proper tools and being able to secure the lower help tremendously.  Haven't screwed one up yet.
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 10:30:26 PM EDT
[#5]
I just used channel lock pliers, seemed pretty easy.  I did manage to make some scratches where the wrench pushed through the multiple layers of electric tape.

Wouldn't the threads of a screw cutting into the bolt catch potentially pose a problem?
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 11:25:51 PM EDT
[#6]
A roll pin by it's shape alone creates radial friction that keeps it in place. A screw unfortunately only creates friction in the threads by interference fit, or by actually stretching the shank to apply pressure. They can loosen, and the user who installs them has to limit the torque or it will overcome the yield strength of the very thin threads.

The M16 doesn't need to come apart for any reason other than a repair, and that repair shouldn't be aggravated by stripping the threads.  Stoner and the crew knew what they were doing when they picked the specific fasteners and why. Roll pins pretty much go in once at the beginning of the weapon's service life and aren't removed until it's arsenal rebuilt to extend it's life.

It's the civilian shooter who changes out parts and furniture frequently who prefers simpler fasteners they understand.

If you want a good look at how well bolts and screws work, you could visit a busy traffic intersection and see them lying on all sides of the road. Bring a magnet, you'll pick up a pound of them and that will likely be one screw or bolt less that causes a flat.

I'll stick with roll pins.
Link Posted: 10/18/2014 11:46:41 PM EDT
[#7]
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A roll pin by it's shape alone creates radial friction that keeps it in place. A screw unfortunately only creates friction in the threads by interference fit, or by actually stretching the shank to apply pressure. They can loosen, and the user who installs them has to limit the torque or it will overcome the yield strength of the very thin threads.

The M16 doesn't need to come apart for any reason other than a repair, and that repair shouldn't be aggravated by stripping the threads.  Stoner and the crew knew what they were doing when they picked the specific fasteners and why. Roll pins pretty much go in once at the beginning of the weapon's service life and aren't removed until it's arsenal rebuilt to extend it's life.

It's the civilian shooter who changes out parts and furniture frequently who prefers simpler fasteners they understand.

If you want a good look at how well bolts and screws work, you could visit a busy traffic intersection and see them lying on all sides of the road. Bring a magnet, you'll pick up a pound of them and that will likely be one screw or bolt less that causes a flat.

I'll stick with roll pins.
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Well said!
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