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Posted: 3/3/2015 1:36:43 AM EDT
I just saw this on Enos. Anyone know anything?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1nrfbaveyjjag4/2015-03-02%2014.02.53.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ix8n0babu8t9zyf/2015-03-02%2014.03.01.jpg?dl=0 |
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Hoping it is offered with a good reticle choice and reasonable weight.
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I just saw this on Enos. Anyone know anything? https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1nrfbaveyjjag4/2015-03-02%2014.02.53.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ix8n0babu8t9zyf/2015-03-02%2014.03.01.jpg?dl=0 View Quote Interesting. It apparently has a standard illuminated reticle, rather than a fiber optic illumination source like the Aimpoints. |
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Could it be? If it's a 1-6 variable fiber optic/tritium illuminated ACOG with traditional ACOG reticle...ugh I don't want to get my hopes up yet, but I'm giddy with excitement. Too bad I'll have to sell an organ to afford it..
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Someone has to have some info on this, where were the pics on enos? I can't find anything. My money is burning a hole in my pocket!
ETA the original post is in the 'Rifles-Technical' section. |
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The thread on brianenos.com talks about a modified German #4 reticle, which is already an option on the TR24. The large circular portal on the ocular looks like a light pipe with the ability to open or close the petals to allow more or less reticle illumination. My guess is that the scope pictured is basically a 1-6x TR24.
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That German No. 4 is fine but it needs to have MIL stadia or BDC. The TR24 version doesn't have those so if the 1-6x follows suit, I think it's going to fail.
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If it uses the same reticle tech as the Accupoint series, they are basically limited to the existing types of reticles (Crosshair type and post type). I'm very ignorant of the tech specifics, but they seem to be unable to make the illuminated portion any bigger than the 'post' of the reticle that suspends it. If so, that really lessens my excitement. All I want is a variable acog, fiber optic illum, and traditional acog reticles with BDC.
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Please be real, and not 2x more than the tr24. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes That does not look like a retail build to me, the Accupoint is. I'll be amazed if it isn't more than twice the street price of the Accupoint. Quoted:
Interesting. It apparently has a standard illuminated reticle, rather than a fiber optic illumination source like the Aimpoints. Looks like fiber optics to me, the rotary/wheelspoke(?) dial instead of a rotary/wheel rim for manual. That arrangement makes me doubt there is a battery stashed anywhere but I hope I'm wrong. That dial(?) near the ocular is too big and in a terrible spot for me. That design would preclude this optic as a SD/Patrol/Combat option.........what a shame. TTC |
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That does not look like a retail build to me, the Accupoint is. I'll be amazed if it isn't more than twice the street price of the Accupoint. Looks like fiber optics to me, the rotary/wheelspoke(?) dial instead of a rotary/wheel rim for manual. That arrangement makes me doubt there is a battery stashed anywhere but I hope I'm wrong. That dial(?) near the ocular is too big and in a terrible spot for me. That design would preclude this optic as a SD/Patrol/Combat option.........what a shame. TTC View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Please be real, and not 2x more than the tr24. That does not look like a retail build to me, the Accupoint is. I'll be amazed if it isn't more than twice the street price of the Accupoint. Quoted:
Interesting. It apparently has a standard illuminated reticle, rather than a fiber optic illumination source like the Aimpoints. Looks like fiber optics to me, the rotary/wheelspoke(?) dial instead of a rotary/wheel rim for manual. That arrangement makes me doubt there is a battery stashed anywhere but I hope I'm wrong. That dial(?) near the ocular is too big and in a terrible spot for me. That design would preclude this optic as a SD/Patrol/Combat option.........what a shame. TTC Hmmm. When I first looked at the dial by the ocular lens I didn't see any evidence of a light pipe, so I assumed it was electronic, but you could be right that's it's their standard Aimpoint type illumination. Either way, it looks weird. |
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Hmmm. When I first looked at the dial by the ocular lens I didn't see any evidence of a light pipe, so I assumed it was electronic, but you could be right that's it's their standard Aimpoint type illumination. Either way, it looks weird. View Quote When you say Aimpoint, do you by chance mean ACOG? I'm a little confused... |
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I think he means LED rather than fiber optics or tritium illumination
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When you say Aimpoint, do you by chance mean ACOG? I'm a little confused... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Hmmm. When I first looked at the dial by the ocular lens I didn't see any evidence of a light pipe, so I assumed it was electronic, but you could be right that's it's their standard Aimpoint type illumination. Either way, it looks weird. When you say Aimpoint, do you by chance mean ACOG? I'm a little confused... [sigh] I meant Accupoint, i. e. fiber optic. Not a typo, more a slip of the whole mind. |
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It looks like just one of the existing LOW 1-6x design. What Trijicon is just adding their name and the fiber illumination to it. LOW have been making the same 1-6x for other brands for $1200-$1400. The Trijicon tax will add probably another $200 to $300 on top of it.
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It looks like just one of the existing LOW 1-6x design. What Trijicon is just adding their name and the fiber illumination to it. LOW have been making the same 1-6x for other brands for $1200-$1400. The Trijicon tax will add probably another $200 to $300 on top of it. View Quote When I first read your post I looked at the picture and thought Razor. But it looks to be a bit longer than the razor. Will need better pictures though. If it's more expensive than the razor, I'm not sure how successful it will be unless it's a lot lighter. Does LOW make any 1-6 besides the Razor and SWFA 1-6? |
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The new Sig Optic Tango 6, maybe the $1200 Sightmark, plus others
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It looks like just one of the existing LOW 1-6x design. What Trijicon is just adding their name and the fiber illumination to it. LOW have been making the same 1-6x for other brands for $1200-$1400. The Trijicon tax will add probably another $200 to $300 on top of it. View Quote I hadn't heard about LOW until your post so thanks for the info! |
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Light Optic Works, the premier Japanese OEM optic producer. LOW makes optics and optical component for all different brands. Kinda just like what Meopta is doing in Europe and USA.
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I feel like Trijicon is out of touch. It's likely going to have the same draw-backs their 1-4 does. Kindof like the 2005 Mustang GT. No IRS, and refused to put a real motor in it. I doubt it will be like the 2015 Mustang GT. Just my .02
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Just saw this on FB. Announcement pending at the NRA show. MSRP $1200. https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11102632_698852886887091_2173011424771780500_n.jpg?oh=b94842ef78f8b7d469e6d6687d8455a6&oe=55A807DA View Quote Based on MSRP alone, I bet it does well. However the rumor is no mil stadia or BDC. Had they improved the reticle, this scope would be THEE scope to have for a long while. After I heard it did not have improved reticle I lost interest. Maybe Trijicon will here our voices and make a 2.0 version with the improvements we seek. |
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Low powered variable, Mil dot reticle, and a daytime bright dot.
After all these years, they finally did it. Wow. |
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Trijicon currently has a pic of the 1-6x on their site when you look at a accupoints
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http://www.ammoland.com/2015/04/trijicon-unveils-two-new-options-to-accupoint-series-the-1-6x24-and-2-5-12-5x4/#axzz3Wuunsw68
MOA dot reticle! Could be the new hotness. |
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https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR25-C-200095
I NEED this scope! |
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MIL Dots will work just fine! View Quote Yep! I'm almost in disbelief Trijicon finally delivered exactly what many of us have been asking for! In my mind, this literally makes the VCOG obsolete and highlights the fact it is very over priced! Mil dot and pleasantly surprised with the field of view, this will work just fine for a 1-6, MOA adjustments are no big deal as not many dialing in with 6x. |
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A lot more than mil dots, check all of the new recticles just uploaded.
Its a little long at 11" but it will do. |
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One open question will be how the illumination will be when it's not in sunlight. I owned the TR24-3G before and while it was awesome in daylight, you could barely see the lit reticle indoors.
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MIL Dots will work just fine! View Quote Other TR-25 optional reticles I wonder what the size of the center dot is? |
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I'm seeing $1600. Wonder what street price is going to be.
19oz plus mount in weight. |
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given they retail the 1-4 at 1200, and can be found most places under 8, 11-1200 bucks would be my guess, as its trying to compete with the vortex.
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Soldier Systems has pics of it from the NRA Annual Meeting.
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When I first read your post I looked at the picture and thought Razor. But it looks to be a bit longer than the razor. Will need better pictures though. If it's more expensive than the razor, I'm not sure how successful it will be unless it's a lot lighter. Does LOW make any 1-6 besides the Razor and SWFA 1-6? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It looks like just one of the existing LOW 1-6x design. What Trijicon is just adding their name and the fiber illumination to it. LOW have been making the same 1-6x for other brands for $1200-$1400. The Trijicon tax will add probably another $200 to $300 on top of it. When I first read your post I looked at the picture and thought Razor. But it looks to be a bit longer than the razor. Will need better pictures though. If it's more expensive than the razor, I'm not sure how successful it will be unless it's a lot lighter. Does LOW make any 1-6 besides the Razor and SWFA 1-6? GRSC 1-6x24mm |
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No reticle pics. Bummer.
One thing I noticed on the specs is that the 1x FOV is actually wider than the Vortex Razor. And the Vortex had a massive one. This could make it very easy to shoot at 1x with their FO illumination. |
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dang, all these new goodies keep pushing my decision out in the future!
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I'm not sure how I feel about these. They have a lot of nice features like the built-in cat tail, still uses fibre optic and tritium, but the only red reticle option is on the triangle reticle. For a 1-6x scope, I'd prefer a BDC reticle. I own a 1-4x Accupoint with red triangle and it's great, and I would love a 1-6x, but the red triangle doesn't lend itself to shots past 300m; hence why I think the red triangle is perfect in a 1-4x scope.
I guess I'll be going with the Vortex strike eagle for my Recce build. Edit: just noticed that these 1-6x scopes are in fact listed as waterproof to 10ft. The 1-4x models are not waterproof; merely weather resistant. For those more knowledgeable than myself, how would the triangle reticle fare at distant shooting being that it is a 1-6x but consists of only a triangle reticle? |
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Shut up Trijicon and take my money. Well you already have all of my money, so I hope you take credit.
Paging Rusted Ace to the Trijicon courtesy phone. |
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