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Posted: 7/30/2007 10:31:51 AM EDT
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Hmm . . . turbo and intercooler upgrade for the car or Hydra? I guess I'm lucky to have "problems" like these
 
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Posted: 7/31/2007 9:07:16 AM EDT
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Here's a nice photo that mcad3333 sent in.
This is his MGI Hydra with his custom modification of the handguard extension being cut out to allow the front sight base to come up thru it. Very cool!!!!!  This particular gun set up is the Hydra with the 7.62x39 AK magwell and mag, modified bolt carrier, and alot of mcad3333's own personal selections of parts and accessories! |
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Posted: 8/8/2007 6:02:51 PM EDT
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Here's a cool video clip of the Hydra in an unusual configuration.
It's mounted on a "Light Assault Vehicle"(rail buggy), and is the Hydra in 5.56 with RDIAS, C-mag, 7.5" barrel, and the "Spade Grips" setup. Here's 100 rounds of full-auto comin' at ya! www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZWBachFKc4 ROCK AND ROLL !!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 5:08:55 PM EDT
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The "super bolts" are being developed along with the .308 kit with the M14 magwell. Once we get that project ready for market, we'll then be looking at providing the "super bolts" in the other bolt face sizes. We'll shortly be providing a normal bolt with improved firing pin arrangement for the 7.62x39, that provides more reliable ignition with Wolf. That should be coming along quite soon. How soon do you expect to come out with the new 7.62x39 bolt? The reason I ask is because I just purchased a carrier and bolt from MGI for an AR 47 build that’s not done yet. I had the carrier milled for my RLL, but have not decided on an upper yet. I’m considering an MGI upper, but first I need to find out what the cost is to mill a standard upper to fit the AK mags.  Shot at 2006-11-06 |
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Posted: 8/10/2007 5:24:16 PM EDT
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They should be in pretty soon.
Where did you get the carrier? I don't recall speaking with you. |
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Posted: 8/11/2007 3:33:29 AM EDT
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Patiently waiting on the Glock magwell, gas operated 9mm upper configuration.
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Posted: 8/11/2007 4:48:53 AM EDT
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We're hoping for that to be done by the end of the year. I saw the prototype at the LE Expo in Cleveland, and it is probably the coolest looking magwell we have. The front of the magwell is angled back on the same angle as the magazine when it's seated, and it looks real modern and cool. Same magwell takes Glock 9 and Glock .40 mags. That said, it does take us some time to get from prototype into production, and that's been one of our biggest problems to overcome. BTW, we're going to have to call it the "Law Enforcement(LE) magwell" because we don't have rights to use the "Glock" name. We can't call it the "Glock magwell". |
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Posted: 8/11/2007 8:34:12 AM EDT
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Understood. That's why I am "waiting patiently." I could have bought the Oly K9GL already, but I think your's is worth the wait.
I am interested in the gas operated pistol caliber solution. That's actually why I haven't bought any of the components yet. I'm still wondering about the bolt/bolt carrier, etc. |
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Posted: 8/11/2007 8:39:08 AM EDT
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The bolt and carrier will basically be standard AR15 types, like we use already. Operation will not differ from the AR15 operation with Stoner Gas System. We simply use a short gas system to tap the gas pressure at the point in the barrel where it is enough to get things going. Works great with a suppressor, because it keeps the bolt shut longer than the blowback system does, and runs quieter suppressed. Much less recoil, so it's more controllable too. |
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Posted: 8/11/2007 5:51:37 PM EDT
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I ordered from the MGI web site 6/11/07, I was just thinking that I could send this bolt back and wait for the new one to come out. I still need to decide on an upper and when I get one send it out to be milled. So it could be awhile. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 4:26:57 AM EDT
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Okay, cool!
I'll make sure that I announce on the forum here, when the new firing pin system with the 7.62x39 bolts come in. |
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Posted: 8/20/2007 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Updates my good man?
I would love to test a 9mm Glock magwell with my RDIAS for you!  Also would like to try out your buffer. Can I order from you or must I order from the site? Thanks! |
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Posted: 8/21/2007 10:34:23 AM EDT
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Orders can come directly thru me, which would greatly be preferred and appreciated by me, because I'm a commission-only salesperson, and that's how I get by. Orders thru the web-store do not apply to my commission payments. Regarding new magwells, I can't do a thing until Mack gets them done in production and into inventory for sale. I'm as anxious as anybody to have some new stuff available! No reports have been given to me recently about imminent releases of anything, and I'm pretty sure it'll be a couple of months at least. |
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Posted: 8/23/2007 10:45:43 PM EDT
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1 - Changing calibers - is the entire upper being changed or are there quick barrel/BCG change options with the magwell? 2 - I'm very interested in a .308 as well as 6.5 Grendel, how far away are those 2 calibers? |
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Posted: 8/24/2007 4:28:40 AM EDT
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In our preferred configuration, we use our MGI QCB upper receiver which allows you to use the same upper for all the calibers, by just changing barrels. However, with many calibers you can change uppers if you want to do that. Some exceptions, such as using AK47 mags in 7.62x39 require our MGI QCB upper receiver because of the special internal machining that we do inside our QCB upper, so that these mags can seat deep enough to work properly. Normal uppers won't work with the AK mags, because they are too fat to seat in the upper receiver where they need to. 6.5 Grendel can be accomplished right now on our Hydra platform. You can purchase a barrel, bolt, and magazine from any of the Alexander Arms dealers or licensed barrel-makers, and put them right into our system. We currently do not have any 6.5 Grendel barrels in inventory for sale. The .308 kit is availablity is TBA(to be announced) when I get the word from Mack that it is in production. It is currently not in production. I'm hoping for a release date around the SHOT Show next Feb, but I can't make a definitive statement until I get the word from Mack if it will be ready to sell by then. |
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Posted: 8/24/2007 11:06:17 PM EDT
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Thank you -
When you say by just changing barrels, is this like a crew serve weapon where the barrel can be quick disconnect and put on or are tools required? Same q for the 6.5 grendel barrel |
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Posted: 8/25/2007 4:19:13 AM EDT
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No tools are needed to change the barrels. It's a little different than the way a crew-served weapon would do it, but it is still very fast, and holds very good accuracy, and uses normal AR15 barrels that you can get anywhere. You can change a barrel in about 15 seconds, once you get accustomed to the procedure. 6.5 Grendel barrel, or any other barrels, change out the same way. One thing you must pay attention to, is to use the proper bolt for each caliber that you switch to. Some different cartridges have different rim sizes, so they must use the proper bolt face size too, when you switch the barrels to those calibers which use a bolt with a different bolt face size. Here's a pic of the QCB barrel changing lever system. You slide the polymer block forward on the bottom rail to expose the locking levers. Then you rotate both the levers fully outward, and remove the barrel straight forward. 
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Posted: 8/26/2007 6:02:05 AM EDT
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Here's a nice pic from one of our customer's MGI Hydra packages in 7.62x39, 5.56, and .22LR.
Very handsome and versatile package, Steezo!  Toes not included! |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:04:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2007 7:23:40 PM EDT
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You can check with "Amphibian" about it.
I know that he had an upper modified by someone in his area. |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 12:16:55 PM EDT
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I'm looking for a company that offers a dedicated .22lr barrel and modified Ciener kit that would work in a CQB-C upper.
The idea is to have a barrel that will fit the CQB-C have the proper 1/16 twist for .22lr and eliminate the need for the chamber extension on the Ciener. Spikes Tactical offers a dedicated upper with the setup I'm hoping to use. But I don't know if the barrel will work in the CQB-C. Here is a Link I'm also going to ask Spikes Tactical if I can get just the barrel and modified Ciener and what I need to install it on a CQB-C or standard upper. |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 12:20:13 PM EDT
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Where did this customer pick up the .22lr setup? |
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Posted: 9/5/2007 12:25:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Oops.
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Posted: 9/5/2007 12:58:33 PM EDT
[#24]
You could call Spikes and ask them if that barrel uses a normal size barrel extension to fit into the AR15 upper. If it does, then you should be GTG.
I don't know what barrel Steezo757 got, but I bet he would tell you if you sent him an IM asking him about it. |
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Posted: 9/8/2007 1:16:32 PM EDT
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It's nice to see all the discussion on these lowers from MGI. Although I'm fairly (O.K., REALLY) new to this board, I've been a C3 dealer for many many years. I've had the good fortune of meeting Mack and becoming friends with him at Knob Creek. I made a special request for a particular configuration of a lower, and as far as I know it's the only one ever produced. It also happens to be the FIRST production unit of the new forged line, serial number 10000!huge
Steve |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:33:30 AM EDT
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Hi Tom,
Not to put you on the spot too much, but could you post a guesstimate as to availability dates of new BC, bolts, and M14 magwell. I got the Feb 2008 for the M14 (!), but don't see dates for the rest. I am buying LMT EBCG's right now. You best guesses, please. Also, I have been looking for a source of 7.62x39 barrels, found some (courtesy of raptor22) at Numrich. Colt match. Bought one, will post on how it looks and works. Gas port location is tbd, no threads. Has extension. If it looks good I will buy a couple more. So the improved 7.62x39 bolt is increasingly important for me. |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 7:45:17 AM EDT
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As I'm sure you know, these time frames are not in my hands to determine.
The 7.62x39 bolt with improved firing pin system was supposed to already be in stock by now, so I don't know what's holding that up. Barrels have always been a problem for us to procure, and we suggest procuring barrels from whatever source you can. The high strength bolts will appear along with the .308 kit, when that gets released. Hoping for a Shot Show release of that. |
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Posted: 9/9/2007 9:59:44 AM EDT
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Roger all that. Thank you.
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Posted: 9/9/2007 12:03:30 PM EDT
[#29]
I got a couple myself. Not chrome liined though but still its Colt. Been trying to get gas piston operation working with my 11.5" 7.62x39 upper and the MGI setup. My MGI setups work flawlessly in 7.62x39 in 7.5 and 11.5" w/ direct gas just not the piston. My last attempt for a gas piston 7.62x39 will be w/ the Colt 16" barrel. I'm really happy with the direct gas, I'm just a tinkerer. BTW, the ARES kit works great for me in 5.56 which is what it was designed for in the first place. 
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Posted: 9/12/2007 11:41:11 AM EDT
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Amphibian, have you tried a muzzle attachment like a krinkov / Novesky muzzle brake or a suppressor on the 11.5" barrel. Something to boost the back pressure/ dwell time of the gas against the piston ? Another possible would be to take the $1.00 buffer spring and trim a few coils off of it until it runs but then that buffer spring would only be good for that particular upper.
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Posted: 9/12/2007 1:19:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Ha, funny you mention that, I've already thought about that. I've got Krinkov boosters but only for 5.45/5.56. I was going to order a 7.62 one just for this purpose. I don't want to try drilling out my existing ones. But since I do have a 16" Colt barrel, my plan was to try this first and if I am successful, I was planning on doing the Krinkov booster. I figured if it didn't work w/ the 16" barrel that I already have, I'm not going to spend the money on a 7.62 booster. |
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Posted: 9/14/2007 11:20:59 AM EDT
[#32]
Is the buffer tube on the lower mil spec size?
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Posted: 9/14/2007 12:26:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Yep! 
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Posted: 9/21/2007 11:08:11 AM EDT
[#34]
We now have released the Enhanced Reliability FiringPin/Bolt kit for the 7.62x39 in our Hydra system or any AR15 shooting 7.62x39.
It has an extended and reprofiled firing pin, which gives deeper and fuller striking of the Wolf or Combloc ammo, for improved ignition reliability, without piercing primers. It consists of a modified 7.62x39 bolt, with the new firing pin design. The bolt is required because the new pin has larger diameter section, and requires a larger channel thru the inside of the bolt. $125 for the kit. Another first, only available from MGI. Please call me to order! |
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Posted: 9/21/2007 11:56:10 AM EDT
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What is the shortest barrel length I could use in a CQB-C upper and be flush with the handgaurd?
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Posted: 9/21/2007 12:46:33 PM EDT
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As long as you use a lo-profile gas block that fits under the handguard, you can go as short as you want. I think that about a 7.5" barrel with no flash hider will be somewhere around even with the end of the handguard. Depending on the flash hider you use, it will extend out a little. |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 5:45:19 AM EDT
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We currently have a small supply of 7.62x39 barrels in 16" length carbine gas system with FSB and flash hider installed, and the barrel nut, delta ring and handguard keeper removed, for the MGI QCB upper. Gov't type profile and parkerized finish. Not chromed.
They also have gas tubes installed already, so it should be a drop-in to your QCB upper. $250. |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 9:27:09 AM EDT
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Been thinking of getting a second barrel, now you go and make it too easy. MGI gets even more of my money.
Tom, just sent you an email. |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 1:59:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Awesome!
Thanks Wayne! |
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Posted: 10/22/2007 12:58:07 PM EDT
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tom whats the rate of twist on the 7.62x39 barrels? 1x10 or 1x12?
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Posted: 10/22/2007 6:46:44 PM EDT
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Pretty sure it's 1x10, but I'll have to check with Mack to be sure. Edited to add: He's out of stock of those barrels now. |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 4:03:01 PM EDT
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Just to let you know the new 7.62x39 bolt and pin are working perfect, now if I could only say the same about my upper, long story short I wish I would have gone with an MGI upper. The bolt and pin did not miss a beat in over 300 rounds today Thanks MGI.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Ar8TwCq70 |
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Posted: 11/19/2007 5:28:17 PM EDT
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Who makes the minor components for your lowers and uppers?
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Posted: 11/19/2007 5:38:15 PM EDT
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We have our own carriers built to our spec, and the gas keys are properly staked. Generally we use CMT lower parts kits, but if they are out we may source from whomever we can get them. We specify mil-spec size buffer tubes. Barrels may be from many sources, and we generally let the customers pick the barrels that they want. However, barrels have been pretty hard to get lately. |
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Posted: 11/23/2007 8:31:27 AM EDT
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I don't know if its been asked but.
Anyone tossing the idea of a longer upper to mate with longer magwells. (.308 with hold open, .30-06, exc.) I'm already tinkering with a mag fed .50 upper on paper that uses the MGI lower. Pretty much all I need is a Anzio Iron Works light 50 without the FCG, add the "dovetail" to the back magwell, chop the rear of the pper receiver and profile it to fit the lower, make sure the bolt clears the inside of the buffer tube, and add a stud for the rear take down pin. But with all the one off stuff Anzio does I bet they would make it for me if I send the specs. Now off to Home Depot to mock it up in PVC.  Tell then here is a crummy photochop. 
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Posted: 11/23/2007 2:17:27 PM EDT
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That would rock...
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Posted: 11/23/2007 2:41:27 PM EDT
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I might need to lathe the bolt to fit the buffer and machine a adapter to make a smooth looking transition between the .50 receiver and MGI lower. Thats why I'm mocking up the LW50 receiver tube in PVC. If I can carve it in plastic someone could machine the metal. |
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Posted: 12/12/2007 5:35:58 AM EDT
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I think those are some cool ideas!
I see no reason why they wouldn't work, as long as you have the fabrication capability. I like it! |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 6:11:04 AM EDT
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Anyone actually received anything from MGI? I was promised and charged for an upper. Several excuses, more promiseshen
Anyone have a positive experience with MGI? SS |
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Posted: 12/14/2007 6:22:12 AM EDT
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I've had great time with MGI. TWL at 423-746-9019 is the man to call about orders and so on. Something you have to understand. If you call the office everyone is really busy with orders, no one in the know mans the phones, those guys are working. Call 423-746-9019. Let him know whats going on, he'll work things out. |
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when I could get someone on the phone. Most of the time I could not get anyone on the phone. When I did get a secretary no one else was availabale and no one returned my calls. Never received responses to email sent using their website either.