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I'm heading out this Sat for GA, unfortunately I won't be carrying my 25-223 AR. I have a full throttle 25 cal I'm taking out this time. :) A cousin to the 30-06 if you will. |
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Well I finally had some success with the 25-223 in the field, took a 98 lb doe on the last day of the season with 30 minutes left to hunt.
Easy neck shot at just 45 yards with an 87 grain Core-Lokt HP over Reloader 7, bullet exited through the rib cage on the opposite side. She spun around on her hind legs and was DRT. |
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It's about time you put that thing to use :)
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I really need to drag my .25-223 back out.
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I f*ckin hate leftists.... seriously, I do.
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I haven’t shot mine in ages. Still a great gun.
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
Feb 16th till Mar 15th hopefully I'll be able to put some fur down with mine View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Just prepped some brass for load work up with aa2200 and 70-85gr bullets see how it works out
grizzlies need slaying |
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains: Just prepped some brass for load work up with aa2200 and 70-85gr bullets see how it works out grizzlies need slaying View Quote My local gunshops never ever have AA2200 in stock. But they carry 2230 so yesterday I started scouring for any info scraps to try 2230. They're not made by the same powder manufacturer from what I read, so not what I was hoping to hear. The Sandy Hook panic brought all my shooting and reloading to a halt. Getting caught up on all caliber empties and itching to get back to experimenting more with the 25-223. |
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Does anyone make Dillon trim dies for this round?
Well don't I feel stupid now... I got to thinking, and remembered I purchased a Whidden trim die in .25X.223 years ago, even remembered where I put it... |
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"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
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Originally Posted By Worriedman: Does anyone make Dillon trim dies for this round? Well don't I feel stupid now... I got to thinking, and remembered I purchased a Whidden trim die in .25X.223 years ago, even remembered where I put it... View Quote Whoa whoa whoa need info on this! @Worriedman |
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Whidden will make you a custom Dillon trim die, either send reamer print or brass.
https://www.whiddengunworks.com/custom-reloading-dies/ |
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"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams
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I f*ckin hate leftists.... seriously, I do.
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Use a WFT II with the 25x45 insert for trimming. Takes 5 seconds from 1.76 to 1.70
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
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So finally got around to shooting some aa2200, I like it.
Ran a quick pressure ladder today with 70gr BK, and aa2200 ran up to 27.5gr slight pressure signs at 27. 26.5gr was 2905fps (16" barrel OG chamber), great accuracy and had an SD of 6 for 5rds. Guess I'll work up another ladder from 26-26.7 see how that fairs. |
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Time goes by!
I just noticed that as of this coming Sunday (5-31-2020) it will be 10 years ago that I made post #1. Just the fact that it keeps popping up shows the interest in this cartridge. |
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I just had a bolt gun chambered in 25-223 put together for my son. I love my 20 inch AR chambered in 25-223. I bought a box of lapua 223 brass to fireform for my sons gun. For my AR i just sized, trimmed, and loaded up some rounds to form brass. Anyone forming brass a different way? Ive read of using pistol powder and cream of wheat but havent actually done this. Would i need to size first? Curious how others form brass.
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Trying to get in contact with 320pf. Your inbox is full. Thanks
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Originally Posted By nootay: I just had a bolt gun chambered in 25-223 put together for my son. I love my 20 inch AR chambered in 25-223. I bought a box of lapua 223 brass to fireform for my sons gun. For my AR i just sized, trimmed, and loaded up some rounds to form brass. Anyone forming brass a different way? Ive read of using pistol powder and cream of wheat but havent actually done this. Would i need to size first? Curious how others form brass. Nootay View Quote There's no need to reform the brass as the body of the case doesn't change. I trim the neck down, chamfer the case mouth then expand it to .25. Starting out I used a .243 expander then the .25. But with the Lapua quality brass I expand it to .25 in one step with a long tapered expander....which I don't recall where I got it or the brand. I love the 20" barrel also as it makes for a very well balanced rifle. Also helps get 87-90gr bullets up to 3,000 fps. |
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Has anyone tried the 110gr Hornady FTX? Any ideas about powder or starting loads?
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I f*ckin hate leftists.... seriously, I do.
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Is Brent still around?
It appears not. If anyone wants to sell me their 16” barrel, let me know. I want to do a 12.5” SBR. |
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
@nootay
110 ftx 2.29 o.a.l 22 gr AA 2230 and it locked bolt back on empty mag and showed no signs of pressure. Didn't shoot for accuracy or do any work up... |
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Has anyone tried the Hornady 90 grain GMX Bullets?
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains: I tried them too long for what I wanted so I pulled the tips to shoot them shot well. If u have em givem a spin. Should be fine for whitetail. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By scatterbrains: Originally Posted By texpete: Has anyone tried the Hornady 90 grain GMX Bullets? I tried them too long for what I wanted so I pulled the tips to shoot them shot well. If u have em givem a spin. Should be fine for whitetail. Same solution worked for me with the 90 GMX here jut haven't taken any deer with that bullet yet. I did hunt yesterday with the 25-223 but no luck. |
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Pardon my ignorance, what is the difference between this round and 25-45 Sharps?
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Here I am, Here I remain
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Pardon my ignorance, what is the difference between this round and 25-45 Sharps? View Quote I'm no SME and someone else can surely go into more detail but I believe the 25-223 can handle heavier bullets than the 25-45. This is due to a shorter case neck on the 25-223 which is trimmed a couple millimeter's during the conversion process. |
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Originally Posted By Clicker58: I'm no SME and someone else can surely go into more detail but I believe the 25-223 can handle heavier bullets than the 25-45. This is due to a shorter case neck on the 25-223 which is trimmed a couple millimeter's during the conversion process. View Quote Correct as far as I'm aware |
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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Originally Posted By scatterbrains: Correct as far as I'm aware View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By scatterbrains: Originally Posted By Clicker58: I'm no SME and someone else can surely go into more detail but I believe the 25-223 can handle heavier bullets than the 25-45. This is due to a shorter case neck on the 25-223 which is trimmed a couple millimeter's during the conversion process. Correct as far as I'm aware That’s correct. But if you’re new to this cal, you won’t be able to get barrels anymore as the guy we all got them from is MIA. I wouldn’t do the 25x45, the neck is just too long which puts the ogive of too many bullets inside the case mouth. I would say get the 25 Ocelot from Mad Dog Weapons instead. Which is basically our 25-223 but Ackley improved for more case volume. I have the 6mm version of this cartridge, called the Mongoose, and it is a very impressive little cartridge. The only kicker with these is fireforming is required. |
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Pardon my ignorance, what is the difference between this round and 25-45 Sharps? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By chewbacca: That's correct. But if you're new to this cal, you won't be able to get barrels anymore as the guy we all got them from is MIA. I wouldn't do the 25x45, the neck is just too long which puts the ogive of too many bullets inside the case mouth. I would say get the 25 Ocelot from Mad Dog Weapons instead. Which is basically our 25-223 but Ackley improved for more case volume. I have the 6mm version of this cartridge, called the Mongoose, and it is a very impressive little cartridge. The only kicker with these is fireforming is required. View Quote |
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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I have been toying with the idea of using the 224 Valkerie case necked up to 25 to allow the use of longer bullets that we can use on this cat. I bet it would perform decently enough out of short barrels too
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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If someone wants to sell their barrel, let me know. Thanks
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
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Hi All,
I got an email from VaFish. It is good to see that there is still interest in the cartridge. I think that I might have a couple of barrels floating around in the very back of one of my gun safes. If there are enough folks interested we could possibly put together a barrel run. Ammo and reloading components have gotten hard to get and expensive so I am not putting as much Pb downrange as I would like. I gather that I am not the only one facing this obstacle . As noted by others on this post, the 25-223Ar is ballistically similar to the 250-3000 Savage. It is an accurate soft-shooting round that kills deer like a bolt of lighting. Over that years I have collected several game shots and the wound channel that the 25-223Ar produces is quite impressive. As they say it punches way out of it's class. 320pf |
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There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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Originally Posted By 320pf: Hi All, I got an email from VaFish. It is good to see that there is still interest in the cartridge. I think that I might have a couple of barrels floating around in the very back of one of my gun safes. If there are enough folks interested we could possibly put together a barrel run. Ammo and reloading components have gotten hard to get and expensive so I am not putting as much Pb downrange as I would like. I gather that I am not the only one facing this obstacle . As noted by others on this post, the 25-223Ar is ballistically similar to the 250-3000 Savage. It is an accurate soft-shooting round that kills deer like a bolt of lighting. Over that years I have collected several game shots and the wound channel that the 25-223Ar produces is quite impressive. As they say it punches way out of it's class. 320pf View Quote Wow! You’re alive! Blast from the past, good to hear from you. Welcome back. |
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
There is nowhere left to go... this is it.
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I need a 16” barrel.
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben Franklin |
Originally Posted By lilMAC25: Pardon my ignorance, what is the difference between this round and 25-45 Sharps? View Quote The 25-223 is another in the theme of quarter-bore 223 based rounds. |
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After last evenings events I can report that the 25-223 is effective against armadillo's
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Found my 25-223 Savage barrel in the back of the safe, screwed it back onto the action and threw a straight 16x on.
I have no idea when I loaded this ammo but it still wants to shoot. 10 shots 100 yards into just under 1" with 85gr Nosler ballistic tips at 2925fps. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z2uW1tWq4vMRxPcs7 |
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Originally Posted By dk223: Found my 25-223 Savage barrel in the back of the safe, screwed it back onto the action and threw a straight 16x on. I have no idea when I loaded this ammo but it still wants to shoot. 10 shots 100 yards into just under 1" with 85gr Nosler ballistic tips at 2925fps. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z2uW1tWq4vMRxPcs7 View Quote Awesome to see you're still playing with the 25-223, love your p-dog hunt posts. |
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Originally Posted By 320pf: Hi All, I got an email from VaFish. It is good to see that there is still interest in the cartridge. I think that I might have a couple of barrels floating around in the very back of one of my gun safes. If there are enough folks interested we could possibly put together a barrel run. Ammo and reloading components have gotten hard to get and expensive so I am not putting as much Pb downrange as I would like. I gather that I am not the only one facing this obstacle . As noted by others on this post, the 25-223Ar is ballistically similar to the 250-3000 Savage. It is an accurate soft-shooting round that kills deer like a bolt of lighting. Over that years I have collected several game shots and the wound channel that the 25-223Ar produces is quite impressive. 320pf View Quote Wow!! The lost has returned.!! Good to see you're still around as I was getting concerned. I bought one of the early batches 20" w/original style chamber. Was it you who had a reamer to modify the old chamber?? IIRC it lengthened the throat.?? FWIW-- I've bought a number of bags of 25-45 from the Sharps Company when they are on sale. Pretty good deal. Probably Starline brass. Just trim the neck and you got great brass. I now have a Howa Mini in 223....after 3 solid years of searching for the right model. Its right what I'd thought would be a great walking hunting rifle if chambered in 25-223. What a sweetheart in size and balance. |
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