Now that the AWB has sunset in most of the country, a lot of folks are looking to put a collapsible stock on their rifle. Inquiring minds post the question - "Which one is the best?" when the real question should be "Which one is the best for me based upon my needs?".  Ultimately, your decision as to which collapsible stock to by is a very personal choice. The best thing to do if at all possible is to shoulder a rifle with the stock on it. Finally, the ultimate goal of this thread is to give the reader a single source for information on the most popular collapsible stocks currently offered.

Anyway, when I was looking to upgrade the collapsible stocks on my ARs, I did a lot of research on the subject and decided to compile my findings so that others can benefit from them. The features listed below (in no particular order) are what I used to help decide which stock would be best for me.

The following data discusses (5) popular collapsible stocks. I will add information on others when requested and as time allows. Please note that the data I'm presenting is based upon personal experience (for the M93A, Vltor, std. M-4 and A2) and the experiences of fellow board members. Please feel free to chime in with your experiences and I will add them to this post. And it would be sincerely appreciated if you state why you like or don't like a particular stock. Statements along the lines of "It sucks. I don't like it" are not very helpful.

1) Cheek Weld - Does it have a consistent cheek weld regardless of how far it's extended or retracted? Is it comfortable?
MagPul M93A - The M93A offers a consistent cheek weld regardless of what position it's at and feels very similar to a fixed stock. However, if you like to shoot with your head way back on the stock (e.g. using a scope with long eye relief), your cheek may hang off the end of the buffer tube. But have no fear, there is word that there maybe an extension cover available from MagPul for this. Bear in mind, of course, that when this cover is installed the stock may not be able to close. We'll have to wait and see though.

Ace M4 SOCOM - The buffer tube of the M4 SOCOM stock has a closed-cell foam overtube which provides a comfortable cheek weld. But, more importantly, because of the way the stock itself functions, your cheek can rest on the foam in most shooting positions. This is a major difference between the M4 SOCOM stock and conventional collapsible stock designs.

LMT SOPMOD - Comfortable cheek weld though you may find your cheek on the buffer tube based upon how far the stock is extended. If you're using a magnified optic, you may find your cheek on the buffer tube depending on the required eye relief for your optic.

Vltor - Better cheek weld than a std. M4 stock but, if your have facial hair, your whiskers may get caught in the little "teeth" of the battery compartments. If you're using magnified optics, you may encounter the same shortcomings as with the LMT SOPMOD.

Standard M-4 - Since the profile of the stock is round (compared to the more triangular profile of the LMT SOPMOD and Vltor), this is considered the least comfortable out of the 4. Same shortcomings as the LMT and Vltor.

2) Rigidity - How solid is the stock compared to a fixed stock? Does it rattle or make noise?
MagPul M93A - This stock is as solid as a fixed stock and I've never heard anyone have problems with it being noisy.

Ace M4 SOCOM - There have been no reports to indicate this stock is anything but rock solid and noise free.

LMT SOPMOD - Based upon LMT's overall quality, I'm guessing that this stock will be pretty solid and won't rattle much if at all. But, based upon the fact that it's still the same basic design as the standard M-4 stock, I highly doubt it will be as solid as a fixed stock.

Vltor - Pretty much the same as the LMT SOPMOD from everything I've read.

Standard M-4 - It's a crap shoot as to how solid and rattle free any given standard M-4 stock will be. I had (2) of this type of stock from RRA and each rattled, one slightly worse than the other. However, many people have purchased RRA stocks and not experienced any rattle.

3) Durability - How well does it stand up to abuse?
MagPul M93A - There were a couple of reports of early M93s with tailpieces that broke after being slammed on the ground during clearance drills but they didn't break very easily. The M93A2 now comes an aluminum refinforcement bracket to address any possiblity of the tailpiece seperating due to extreme abuse and this bracket can be purchased seperately for $12.95 to retrofit earlier versions of the M93 and M93A.

Ace M4 SOCOM - This stock features a propritary receiver extension has an ambi-sling mount/gusset right behind the receiver that adds reinforcement to the weakest point on the tube. I haven't found any reports of anyone breaking this stock and the manufacturer claims that their receiver extension is b times stronger than an A2 stock.  

LMT SOPMOD - There were a few reports of the early SOPMOD stocks (not the LMT versions) breaking in during clearance drills or from being dropped. The new version of the SOPMOD stock from LMT is reportedly made from stronger materials to address this problem.

Vltor - Anyone hear any accounts of Vltor stocks breaking? Please share your experiences on this topic!

Standard M-4 - Considering how long this style stock has been in use in the field, I'd be really surprised if at least a few of these have not been broken because of abuse. I'll look for more information when it comes back on-line.

4) Ease of Use - Is it easy to operate with gloves on and/or under stress?
MagPul M93A - Since the basic operation of this stock is different than all the others, it does take a wee bit getting used to but, once you are used to it, I feel it's just as easy to operate. The M93A is the only stock that allows the user to set-up presets so you can instantly open the stock to the exact length of pull you prefer.

Ace M4 SOCOM - This stock can be quickly adjusted via a push button on the stock. It functions a bit differently than the standard M-4 stock.

LMT SOPMOD - This operates just like a standard M-4 stock so there is zero learning curve (assuming you've used a M-4 stock before).

Vltor - Same as LMT SOPMOD and M-4

Standard M-4 - Same as LMT SOPMOD and Vltor

5) Adjustability - How many positions does it have? Can it be easily opened to your preferred LOP
MagPul M93A - This stock offers more positions (8) than any other stock on the market. It is also the only stock that allows the user to set-up LOP presets. Fully collapsed, it's about .25" longer than the M-4 closed (10.04" LOP). When fully extended, it's about .5 longer than an A2 stock (13.98" LOP). Clearly, the M93A offers more adjustability than any of the other 3 stocks.

Ace M4 SOCOM - This stock has 5 positions in 1/2" increments and it comes with either a 1.0" or 0.5" recoil pad. There are no preset options.  There are 2 versions of thi stock available. The shorter version has a length of pull (without a recoil pad) that can be adjusted from 11.0" to 13.0". The longer version has a length of pull (without a recoil pad) that can be adjusted from 13.0" to 15.0".

Also, for folks in states that still have an AWB, you can swap out the push-button with a supplied set-screw to "fix" the stock at the user specified length.

LMT SOPMOD - This requires a mil-spec buffer tube which are available in either 4 or 5 position versions. If you use a 4 position buffer tube, the minimum LOP will be 11" and the maximum LOP will be  14.25" which makes the LMT SOPMOD stock the longest one out of the box.

Vltor - This requires a mil-spec buffer tube which are available in either 4 or 5 position versions. The buffer tube offered by Vltor as 5 positions. Minimum LOP is 10" and maximum LOP is 13.32".  There are rubber butt pads available for this stock if you want to increase the LOP.

Standard M-4 - These do not require mil-spec buffer tubes with the exception of genuine Colt stocks. Buffer tubes are available with 4, 5 or 6 positions and I believe there is even a 7 position one now. Minimum LOP is 9.84" and maximum LOP (with a 4 position buffer tube) is 13.18". If you use a 5 position buffer tube, the max LOP will be right around 13.32" If you use a 6 position buffer tube, the max LOP will be around 14". There are also rubber butt pads available for this stock if you want to increase the LOP.

6) Storage Options - Does it offer compartments for storing batteries, spare parts, etc.?
MagPul M93A - There are currently no storage compartments available for this stock though they are planned for the near future. I s/w Richard Fitzpatrick (the owner of MagPul Industries) today and he informed me that, at this time, the planned storage compartment for the M93A will be triangular and hold either (6) AA batteries or (9) DL123 batteries. This information is of course subject to change but regardless of any changes, there will be a storage compartment available.

Ace M4 SOCOM - There are currently no storage options for this stock.

LMT SOPMOD - This stock comes with (2) battery storage tubes that will hold, IIRC, (2) AA batteries or (3) DL123 batteries. The stock itself has to be removed from the buffer tube in order to open the storage tubes.

Vltor - This stock is available with either carbine length storage tubes or rifle length storage tubes. The carbine tubes will hold (1) AA battery or (2) DL123 batteries. The rifle length storage tubes will hold (2) AA batteries or (3) DL123 batteries. You do not have to remove the stock to access the storage tubes.

Standard M-4 - There are currently no storage options for this stock that I am aware of.

7) Sling Mounting Options - What sling mounting options are available for it?
MagPul M93A - MagPul currently offers both a full loop or HK hook style receiver sling mounts. The last time I checked, Richard (the man behind Magpul) was making a few receiver mounted QD sling mounts. I managed to snag 3 of them for my ARs and my shotty. I don't know what the official status on these is though.

Ace M4 SOCOM - There are 4 sling mounting points on this stock. One ambidextrous mount at the receiver and 3 on the rear of the stock. I have not found any information as to whether this stock can use the standard receiver sling mounts. If someone can confirm whether this style of sling mount can be used on the M4 SOCOM, please let me know.

LMT SOPMOD - Since it's very similar to the standard M-4 stock, this stock should be able to use any of the sling mounting options currently available for the standard M-4 stock.

Vltor - In addition to having (2) integral ambidextrous QD sling sleeves, this stock can also use any of the currently available sling mounts for the standard M-4 stock.

Standard M-4 - The variety sling mounts available for the standard M-4 stock are such that there is something available for everyone, regardless of your needs.

8) Ease of Installation - How easy or difficult is it to install?
MagPul M93A - The M93A requires replacing the weapon's original buffer tube with it's own proprietary version. Installation of the M93A buffer tube may require the use of included shims and these shims may have to be thinned in order to achiever proper timing of the buffer tube. Installation of the claw locks and claw lock spacer is not very difficult though the tight tolerances of these parts may cause the installer "minor anxiety" because they don't want to break anything. If you feel comfortable installing a standard M-4 stock, then installing the M93A will most likely not pose a problem for you.

Ace M4 SOCOM - From the information I have gathered, this stock is easy to install as easy (if not easier) to install than the standard M-4 style stock.

LMT SOPMOD - If your weapon has a mil-spec buffer tube already installed, then all
you will have to do is pop off the old stock and pop on the LMT SOPMOD. If not, installation of a mil-spec buffer tube is very quick and easy. If you feel comfortable installing a pistol grip, then installing a mil-spec buffer tube will not pose a problem for you.

Vltor -  Same as the LMT SOPMOD stock.

Standard M-4 - Same as the LMT SOPMOD and Vltor stocks though non-Colt collapsible stocks can use a mil-spec buffer tube though it will result a slightly looser fit and, as a result, more rattle.

9) Cost - Something to consider but the highest quality stock with the most features never comes cheap.
MagPul M93A - The retail price for a complete M93A stock kit (stock and buffer tube) is currently $225, shipping included. Street price for this stock is only slightly less ($200-$219) and that price may or may not include shipping.

Ace M4 SOCOM - The average street price on this stock is around $160.00 and does not include a buffer or spring.

LMT SOPMOD - The current retail price on the LMT SOPMOD stock is $199 and mil-spec buffer tubes run $34-$47. The street price on this stock will probably drop a bit when they are readily available.

Vltor -  The current retail price on the Vltor Carbine modstock is $114.95 with short storage tubes or $119.95 with long storage tubes. If you do not already have a mil-spec buffer tube on your rifle (Bushmaster and RRA are not mil-spec tubes),  Vltor offers one $47.00. The street -price on the stock is around $109 and buffer tubes run $40-$47

Standard M-4 - The current retail price for a non-Colt (e.g. RRA and Bushmaster) M-4 stocks is $90-$100 with the street price running $69-$100. Genuine factory Colt M-4 stocks kits (buffer tube, buffer, spring, and stock) are running around $150.

10) Weight -Please note that listed weights do include a carbine buffer and spring. I should also mention that some shooters consider having a heavier stock a good thing because it helps to balance the weapon better. To quote Richard Fitzpatrick, "It's better to have a balanced rifle that weighs 9 lbs. than an unbalanced one that weight 7 lbs."
MagPul M93A - 17 oz.  

Ace M4 SOCOM - 16.5 oz

LMT SOPMOD - 16 oz.

Vltor
Carbine Standard w/compartments, caps and sling swivel - 11.7 oz.
Carbine Standard w/cheek weld adapters and sling swivel - 10.7 oz.
Carbine Clubfoot w/compartments, caps and sling swivel - 11.6 oz.
Carbine Clubfoot w/cheek weld adapters and sling swivel - 10.6 oz.

M-4 style - 10.8 oz.

Anyone know of some weights that will fit snugly into the storage compartment of the SOPMOD stock to better balance a rifle out?

Well it seems like everyone else had somthin to say here....soooo..holy crap!!!!

Didnt read pass the 1st page..couldnt take anymore, but i really like the Vltor emods..

The EMod is longer than the LMT SOPMOD.

All the pix except the top one are little red x's...

I've got a CBS stock on one of mine. No rattle with a tight fit. Good cheek weld for me.

The only thing is, I could see the storage door eventually breaking off at some point.

I like mine.  The batteries i store inside it are for emergency use so it the door rarely gets opened.  If I could afford an ACS or SOPMOD or something nice I'd get it, but in the mean time, the CAA works just fine.

My 4position stock won't come off the tube. Is there a certain way to do this?

How about this:  Just arrived. It's the Magpul ACS and it's all of the CTR and more!  Already used on the range, and the cheekweld is great.  The compartments are easy to get to and the tubes on both sides hold 2 AA or 3 cr123 batteries.

Could I replace the A2 stock of my stag arms with that? I'm looking for something to shorten the overall length of my rifle. Not sure if it would fit because I don't belief mine is milspec.

I believe Magpul only has the ACS in the Milspec version.  It would fit tight on your commercial buffer tube.  Commercial buffer tubes are slightly larger and have a angle cut at the rear.

you would need to swap out your whole buffer tube kit for a carbine buffer tube kit. a2 buffer tube won't work for a collapsible stock.

The general consensus among arfcommers is that my m4 needs a new stock.  I hear a lot about the Vltor being the top of the line....but to be honest I hate the look of it.  At first, I even hated the look of the CTR, but I am warming up to it.  My question.....is the CTR considered an absolute top-of-the-line stock?

Maybe I missed the post on this thread, if so I apologize for asking a second time but are there any posted weights of the various stocks i.e. lightest to heaviest etc. Thanks for the info or the redirect if already  existing!

I need some help on parts for converting from original Colt Match HBAR upper to Carbine stock. Just need good basic (quality) stuff with decent cheek weld.

I currently have a cheep pos carbine stock on it but plan to replace everything - the OD of the tube measures well under mil spec. This is an iron sight carry handle setup - I consider it a serious (yet backup) defensive rifle, and want to upgrade the stock. (Including a Magpul ASAP sling adapter, which I already have.)

Barrel is a 14.5" Bushmaster with fixed muzzle thingy for a really short (& legal) OAL.

So:
1). Buy a complete carbine conversion kit...does a good "kit" even exist? - or piecemeal individual parts?

2). Is the mil spec Vltor Tube worth the extra money and why is the DSA tube so cheap ($17 dealer vs $44 for the Viltor? I'm frugal, but do like quality.

3). I'm looking at the CTR stock, but will the Magpul MOE give me everything I need? No batteries required so the ASC is way past my needs.

4). Best place to get everything at once? (I get dealer pricing at Brownells & Midway, not that it's much off on most items.)

Thanks.

I bought the parts I needed (spring, buffer, etc.) from Midway and they seemed to have the best price and everything was available.

On the CTR vs. MOE, I have been told by a couple of dealers that the CTR is supposed to be more solid but that you can't tell the difference and that the $40 upcharge for the CTR is a waste.  The MOE on my buddy's AR is rock solid.

I have a receiver extension tube for the collapsible stock.  It's diameter is about 1.75" +/-.  Is this a military or commercial diameter tube, as the stock I have will not fit on it because it (the stock) is too small.  Any help is appreciated.

Ive tried almost everything and the LMT m4 stock always wins for me. LMT does a great job of building a nice simple stock thats a cut above all others. My emod is collecting dust and my sopmod was sold long ago, but ive got lmt m4 stocks on both my AR15's.

If your stock is too small for the tube, you have a mil-spec stock and a commercial tube.

I've always looked at all the fancy stocks with storage and what not and thought "why"?

I ordered a UBR from Bravo last week after my carbine buffer tube pulled hair off my face for the 100th time and I realized that it would be nice to have a cheek weld that wasn't across two uneven surfaces.  I installed it last night and I must say, what a stock.  I don't think I ever want to use a factory carbine stock again, the UBR is just so comfortable and it balanced the rifle out very well.  I also found the shape of the butt countoured itself pefectly to the pectoral muscle.

Now I have to shell out 250 everytime I get a new carbine  

Does anyone know where I can get a Magpul M93A??

http://www.sogarmory.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=104107

That's the easiest way. Ergo bought the rights to make the M93 from Magpul and are currently selling it as the F93.

so what exactly was the answer to the Duo Stock questions. Is it worth the money?

here's the reincarnated M93 by Ergo

Just made a new thread about this stock, then found this one, so I'll mention it here as well. Tactical Intent TI-7. I love this thing.

Can anyone suggest the collapsible stock that extends the furthest back?  I really need a long stock since I am a bigger guy.

The new Vltor A5 collapsible stock combo kit is one of the longest collapsible type, when fully extended it is even longer than the M16A2 fixed stock.

The receiver extension (buffer tube) of the A5 system is longer by around 3/4" than a standard carbine collapsible buffer tube and it have 7 positions which is one more position than a carbine buffer tube, also the EMOD stock body which comes with the A5 combo kit is one of the longest stock body available.


Ref. M16A5 Stock From Vltor - AR-15 New AR Products forum thread link


http://www.vltor.com

Vltor IMOD in FDE color installed on my Colt model AR6721 AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine

The Vltor IMOD series replaced the original Modstock series sometime last year after it was first revealed at the 2010 SHOT Show.

Here's the improvements from the original Modstock from Vltor's site.

The improvements of the IMod are as follows:

• Integral, but removable non-slip buttpad (color matched to stock components)


• Rolled/ angled buttpad toe with wide traction area. This will assist in running the stock high on shoulder, making the IMod system more user friendly when using web-gear and/or body armor.


• Improved lock paddle, making it easier to operate and making the contact surface non-slip when operating the lever.


• Removed most sharp edges that may cause “snag points” to web-gear or other vital equipment.


• Improved strength throughout construction of the stock chassis. This will provide maximum strength during “Mortaring exercise” or unexpected impact.

Like all Vltor stocks, the IMod is available in the three most popular colors; Black, Flat Dark Earth (tan) and Foliage Green. As with the original Modstocks, the IMod is offered in the conventional, “Standard” configuration and the unconventional, “Clubfoot” configuration.

The IMod series is now available to fit either the Milspec or Commercial diameter receiver extension/buffer tube.

The following are my impressions of my Vltor EMOD which I bought last January.

It had a better cheek weld than the standard M4 stock and the same as the old Modstock, also similar to the LMT SOPMOD.

My IMOD mounted on my Colt buffer tube have a very tiny slow movement, no rattles, but it's solid when in the shooting position, when I use it with my other BCM buffer tube the fit is more tighter and less movement and feels virtually like a fixed stock.

In the durability department I have not dropped it 5 ft buttpad first on a concrete floor but from the improvements that the factory incorporated to resist damage, I'm pretty sure that this new model are better than the old Modstock and standard stocks.

It's easy to use just like the M4 and Modstocks, the ridges on the lock paddle are better and makes them less slippery, I also appreciate all the smooth radius of edges and corners.

Storage capacity, each side compartment can hold at least two AAs or three lithium CR123 3-volt batteries. The internal diameter of each compartment is 0.685”.

Sling mounting for all Modstocks, including the IMod will accept a heavy duty push-button, quick detachable sling swivel or a conventional web sling, measuring up to 1.375” in webbing width.

Installation is just like a standard carbine M4 stock, just pull down the lock paddle/ adjustment lever and slide it on the buffer tube.

IMOD stock bodies only, either standard carbine or clubfoot models have a suggested price of $99.95, and the complete kit are only available with mil-spec size buffer tubes, with carbine buffer spring, standard carbine buffer, receiver end lock plate, and castle nut are $159.95 retail price.

The weight of the stock body only are less than 9.4 oz. (mil-spec and commercial with storage compartment and buttpad installed).

Dimensions:

Length: 6.250” (without buttpad)
Length: 6.626” (with buttpad)
Width: 2.500” (with storage compartments installed)
Height: 5.210” (with buttpad installed)

The feature that I really liked is the integrated rubber buttpad which doesn't get loose compared to the Modstock's slip on rubber buttpad which could get loose if not tied down, also the angle of the foot at the bottom makes it comfortable when the weapon is shouldered in the ready muzzle at 45 degree downward position.


http://www.vltor.com

Digging this site, new guy here that has a slight issue. I am browsing the thread and have a question. The M4 stock to me is nice and all but I need something with a bigger cheek weld area and more weight because my gun is front heavy. Would the ACS be acceptable to balance this all out? I'd love a SOPMOD but that ain't going to happen.


cheers!

I have read most of this everlasting post (a good thing) and need a little help with which stock I need for a .223 LMT CQB MRP.

First and foremost the most important thing is I am looking for a really good recoil pad.  The reason is I bought this rifle to help teach my two sons (4&5 years of age) how to shoot.  They are too young right now to hold the gun properly, but I am trying to plan for the future.  I was raised on a .30-06 as we were only able to afford one rifle when I was growing up and therefore I still have problems with recoil.  I am glad my father took time with me to teach me how to shoot and we did the best we could with what we had at the time.  I just want the lightest recoiling combination I can put together and therefore the desire for the best recoil pad.

My other desires are that I want a good cheek weld that will not pull my beard and obviously a good swivel attatchment.  I have looked at the LMT SOPMOD, but just didnt know if I could get a better recoil pad in a stock of that build style.

Thanks,
Thomas

Couldnt you swap buffers and use the magpul prs? I have one on my spr bushie and i love it!

Guys, I didn't want to start another thread asking, have we beat up the LMT SOPMOD vs the B5 SOPMOD here at ARF?

I like the new Magpul STR stocks.  I have one in FDE and another in Black.  

just inatalled the Magpul ACS on my M4, love it. But, there is one minor issue, the rubber pad on the back pops off very easily. Probbaly going to just put a few dabs of rubber cement on it. Anyone else have this problem?

Negative magpul, the stock came with two pads, one thin, one thick, neither one is held on by the screws. The holes in the pads are the same size as the screw heads, the screws are just holding the backing plate to the stock while the pads merely grip the shoulder around the perimeter of the backing plate.

I've never seen an ACS (or any other Magpul stock) that was like this.  Did you buy it from a reliable source?  Can you post pics of the stock and pads?

random dude set up at the most recent Will Rodgers gun show

Is there a difference in length of milspec vs commercial tubes? Seems my milspec tube on full out is about 1 notch shorter than my off brand commercial.

Is the Magpul ACS L with a 15" LOP still the longest stock available?
With a reconstructed (metal) elbow my dad could really use an even longer LOP on a M4 carbine.
TIA.

To Bravo who wanted a heavier, rear weighted stock, have you considered the TROY Battle Axe CQB stock? its pretty heavy gauge polymer bodied, and it has an over 1/2" thick solid metal buttplate, im assuming its steel......

I'm looking for the shortest stock for my  SBR project - has anyone tried one of the LWRC UCIW Ultra Compact Stocks?  I'm usually using my collapsable stock on the shortest length anyway so extended length isn't an issue.

Have you heard of the NEA PDW stock. Here is a link to another fellows experiances with it.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1532072_NEA_PDW_Stock.html

Interesting, a one page difference and we go from 2009 to 2013. There's been a lot of stocks put on the market in the last four years.

Looking at the new MFT Minimalist: http://www.missionfirsttactical.com/Products/Battlelink-stocks/BATTLELINK-Utility-Stock_6
Already bought a carbine buffer kit to mount it, so it's basically a matter of finding one in the color needed in stock. That can take time. The contrast between it and a lot of the stocks just two pages back shows where the market is going- light, no gimmicks, gives a shooter what he needs. A warm polymer cheek weld, good shoulder purchase, sling options, no extra bells and whistles to clutter things up.

First question, does it hook things. First reports, no. If an A1 with unused sling swivel isn't getting hooked, then you are likely keeping your web gear dressed out to prevent it anyway. There shouldn't be all kinds of flaps and straps stuff can grab. If the stock can hook it, so can stuff inside a troop carrier or HMMV. You have an issue with that, not the stock. It's a foot and finger grabber, fix it. I haven't heard of the Ergo or others being a problem.

Quality - reports from first users say it fits like a glove, no rattling. Clicks into the notches properly. Holds well. Can it be broken, yes, you can break anything, including the A1, A2, etc. Just throw them out a 2d story window or out the back of a truck. Abuse it enough, you can break the buffer tube. You can make the rifle too tough to break, or you can keep the weight under ten pounds, but you can't do both. It's tough enough.

Weighs less than an A1 assembly. No storage to speak much of. It was an optics problem, not a stock problem. There's better out there, and better places to store the power. Like, the grip, where the weight is closer to the center of gravity.

Many other stocks could be have the same things said for them, like Magpul's Ergo still being made by others. For the difference in price, I could buy two MFT's and two buffer kits for one Ergo. Might explain why the MFT is hard to find.

One more deer season with the A1. Oh well. Handguards going, too. It's time for a free float.

Thanks! Getting into one of the Ace M4 Socoms.

Anyone get to play with the new Daniel Defense stock?  I'm putting together a lightweight, inexpensive carbine, and had planned on the Magpul CTR.  I have the CTR on another gun, and it's a great little stock for the money.  I like the looks of the DD stock, but wonder if it locks up as well as the CTR.



I know the DD stock isn't available as a part yet, being available only on their finished rifles.  So, does anyone have one, or played with one (at SHOT for example?)

Where was this post last year when i needed it!? Any reviews on magpul butt stocks? like this one?

http://www.tacticalvantage.com/en/magpul/1214-magpul-prs-ar-15-sniper-stk-fol.html

I dont trust website reviews

tia