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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:38:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
When discussing the Mk 18 / CQBR program, we can divide the history and discussion in to two distinct categories: 1) The weapon system itself / upper receiver supplied and 2) the group of accessories deployed on said weapon systems (SOPMOD).
---------- Mk 18 Mod 0 / CQBR The M4 carbine and M16 are not ideally suited for all missions, so it was proposed that the modularity of the M16 series would allow a user to replace the upper receiver of an existing weapon with one more suitable to the task. One of two proposed special mission receivers that were planned for inclusion into the SOPMOD Block II kit, the CQBR has taken off on its own. Like the proposed Special Purpose Receiver, the Close Quarters Battle Receiver has been more or less taken on by the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (often referred to as NSWC-Crane or just "Crane") as its own project following the CQBR's removal from the SOPMOD program. Just as the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into the Special Purpose Rifle, and was type-classified as Mk 12 Mod 0/1, the complete CQBR-equipped carbine has been type-classified as the Mk 18 Mod 0. The purpose of the CQBR remains to provide operators with a weapon of submachine gun size, but firing a rifle cartridge, for scenarios such as VIP protection, urban warfare, and other close quarters battle (CQB) situations. The CQBR is designed to provide improvement over previous AR-15/M16-type weapons in this category. The CQBR is usually issued as a complete weapon system, and not just an upper receiver. The CQBR was once only available to Naval Special Warfare units, but the Mk 18 Mod 0 has become general issue for Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) missions and, as of 2006, for NCIS agents deploying to active combat zones.[citation needed] The Mk 18 is also used by the Coast Guard's Tactical Law Enforcement Teams, Maritime Safety and Security Teams, and Maritime Security Response Team and the United States Navy's Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Operators. Wikipedia has a good article with sources on the original CQBR/Mk 18 Mod 0 and its development. ---------- SOPMOD The SOPMOD Program Management Office at NSWC Crane, IN, provides standardized, versatile weapons accessories to meet needs across SOF mission scenarios. These accessories increase operator survivability and lethality by enhanced weapon performance, target acquisition, signature suppression, and fire control. The CQBR itself was originally part of the SOPMOD program as an accessory replacement upper receiver for the M4. However it was eventually separated out into its own project. SOPMOD accessories for the M4/CQBR originally included things like the KAC RIS/RAS, SOPMOD stock, KAC M4QD suppressor, AN/PEQ-2 illuminator/laser, ECOS-N red dot, ACOG, etc The SOPMOD program has gone through multiple minor and major evolutions throughout its lifetime. The most significant is commonly defined as "Block II" and included the introduction/replacement of accessories that met the updated needs of operators. The most visually significant "Block II" accessory is probably the replacement of the KAC rail/FSB with the Daniel Defense RIS II free float rail with low-profile gas block. Other updates include things like the Surefire SOCOM sound suppressor, EOTech RDS (553/SU-231 & EXPS 3-0/SU-231a), LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, etc ---------- Link to docs and photo albums Presentation on CQBR from Crane Operator's Manual for Mk 18 Mod 0 SOPMOD Program Overview presentation from Crane Photo Album of Mk 18 Mod 0 Photo Album of CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories ---------- Because of the long history of both the CQBR/Mk 18 and SOPMOD programs, it's common to find weapons with various mixed configurations in the field, all depending on what time and unit the weapon system belongs to. Below are a few examples with descriptions to illustrate this. Example of a Mk 18 Mod 0 in as-issued configuration including: M16A1 surplus lower receiver, SOPMOD buttstock, KAC RIS, KAC M4QD flash hider, Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox mount, LMT rear fixed sight, CQD rear sling plate. NSW Operator CQBRs with original SOPMOD accessories including KAC M4QD sound suppressor and AN/PEQ-2 IR Illuminator/Laser. Member of a Combat Camera team with a CQBR with KAC RAS and M4QD flash hider but with other updated accessories from the "Block II" SOPMOD kit including SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0), EOTech G33 Magnifier, LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, Insight WMX-200. Good example of "early" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including SU-231 (EOTech 553) and SU-233 (Insight M3x weaponlight). Example of a more "modern" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including the updated SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0) and Insight WMX-200 weaponlight. Many times certain configurations are common within certain branches/groups. Here a Marine Raider is seen with a CQBR with an AN/PEQ-16 (USMC issued vs. the LA-5/PEQ SOCOM issued ATPIAL) and KAC NT4 suppressor (vs. the current Surefire SOCOM suppressor). ---------- Building a clone If you're interested in building a "clone" of a Mk 18 or CQBR equipped M4A1, here is a basic parts list to use as a guide and get you started. This list is not exhaustive and see the * note above regarding personalized accessories. | Mk 18 Mod 0 | M4A1 CQBR Block I | M4A1 CQBR Block II Lower Receiver | Mil-spec forged A1 | Mil-spec forged A2 | Mil-spec forged A2 Stock | Gen 1 SOPMOD (Black) | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others Pistol Grip | A1 | A2, ERGO & others | A2, ERGO & others Rear Sling Plate | CQD | CQD | CQD Upper Receiver | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile Barrel | 10.3" | 10.3" | 10.3" Rail | KAC RIS | KAC RAS | DD Mk18 RIS II (FDE) Rear BUIS | LMT Fixed | LMT Fixed, MATECH, & others | MATECH, KAC 300m, & others Front Sight | A2 FSB | A2 FSB | KAC 99051 BUIS (Taupe) Front Sling Attachment | FSB Sling Swivel | FSB Sling Swivel | CQD Muzzle Device | KAC M4QD | KAC M4QD | SureFire FH-556-RC Supressor | None | KAC QDSS NT4 | SureFire SOCOM556-RC (FDE) LAM | None | PEQ-2 | LA-5 Weaponlight | SureFire M962 | SureFire M952, M962 | Insight M3X (Tan), Insight WMX200 (Bronze) Optic | Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox Mount | Aimpoint Comp M2 in QRP Mount, ACOG | EOTech 553 (Tan), EOTech EXPS3-0 (Tan), ELCAN 1-4x (FDE) ---------- Link to previous threads Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part I Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part II |
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
You know there are pictures in here someplace of LaRue mounts in the wild. You could just get away with that one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Threw together this upper with one of the AU 10.3 fsp barrels. Needs some paint and a Wilcox mount. http://i.imgur.com/VPR3Q91.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
I hope you're using the term "contractor" loosely... otherwise you got a dude maybe making the most money on the COP while simultaneously sporting the shittiest optic on post, too. Although I haven't contracted OEF/OIF in about 5 years, I hear they're not making $ like they used to. View Quote Barely any good paying contracts out there right now. That may change as tensions continue to build in the AG though... |
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I survived the California MagRush 3/29/19 - 4/5/19
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"All welchers should be removed from the EE"-Aimless
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Originally Posted By krdt: Obviously designed to work in conjunction with the clandestine cow transport vehicle. http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/moo.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Bhavin22:
Originally Posted By krdt: Obviously designed to work in conjunction with the clandestine cow transport vehicle. http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/moo.jpg |
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"All welchers should be removed from the EE"-Aimless
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Originally Posted By MrKV: AKA Amazon special. Jesus that thing is ugly View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By krdt:
Obviously designed to work in conjunction with the clandestine cow transport vehicle. http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/moo.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By MrKV:
Jesus that thing is ugly http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/moo.jpg Contractor 2- "I think your rifle just moo'd at me" "Get to ze |
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73: I hope this isn't going to start an "I seen it in the wild" trend with them. They are only $40 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/doubleFacePalm-26.jpg View Quote |
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"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity", MLK
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Is that a Colt full auto Ambi selector ?
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I score a B5 contract stock. Just waiting on a few things and I will be part of the cool club
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One more beer won't hurt
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Originally Posted By SlasherMcGee:
https://i.imgur.com/QHVE1yR.jpg View Quote |
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One more beer won't hurt
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Originally Posted By krdt:
I just comfort myself with pictures and the occasional conjugal visit. It's like a long distance relationship :\. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.052119.NT4.V2.N1-01.jpg Probably the final config with an N1 and the M300 set back so I can fully rotate the NT4 for removal. View Quote |
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Does anyone know where the KAC taupe front sight is in stock?
Thanks! Jj |
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Originally Posted By JohnJr:
Does anyone know where the KAC taupe front sight is in stock? Thanks! Jj View Quote |
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View Quote Eta did we agree black was okay to use tho? |
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By JohnJr:
Does anyone know where the KAC taupe front sight is in stock? Thanks! Jj |
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$190?
Keep an eye out in the EE. They pop up there for $160ish frequently. I just got a new black KAC 99051 in the EE last week for $160. The guy had Taupe too, but I wanted black. |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
$190? Keep an eye out in the EE. They pop up there for $160ish frequently. I just got a new black KAC 99051 in the EE last week for $160. The guy had Taupe too, but I wanted black. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JohnJr:
I here ya man they seam to be $190 everywhere I look.....I've got a line on a black one for a bit cheaper I may just go that route. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JohnJr:
Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
$190? Keep an eye out in the EE. They pop up there for $160ish frequently. I just got a new black KAC 99051 in the EE last week for $160. The guy had Taupe too, but I wanted black. |
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Originally Posted By SlasherMcGee:
https://i.imgur.com/QHVE1yR.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SlasherMcGee: My suggestion would be to wait until you can find a taupe. Bookmark all sites that sell them and sign up for their stock notifications. You'll find one within a week or 2. View Quote |
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Thanks for the responses guys!.....so is black less common or not correct?
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A couple cans of spray paint makes all your "clone color correct" woes go away.
www.clonerifles.com/theclones/cqbrblockii lists black KAC 55091 as good to go. Plus if you think something's less desirable because it's black, that's raciss. $165 Black: https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Clon...1847339/ |
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Originally Posted By JohnJr:
Does anyone know where the KAC taupe front sight is in stock? Thanks! Jj View Quote Attached File Attached File In person they look WAY more gray than anything and not at all tan. Probably still fits the definition of “taupe” though. I hate them and they’ll be going in the EE shortly. |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
A couple cans of spray paint makes all your "clone color correct" woes go away. www.clonerifles.com/theclones/cqbrblockii lists black KAC 55091 as good to go. Plus if you think something's less desirable because it's black, that's raciss. $165 Black: https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/Clon...1847339/ View Quote |
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Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
If the color of the “taupe” is at all important to you then you might want to see what you’re getting before you buy. Here’s a recent one I got 2 weeks ago next to some other stuff in various shades of coyote, FDE & taupe (KAC A2 grip). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/122B787A-345E-4D34-B532-0C6EC31A9FEB_jpeg-986101.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/55E7FA65-6BE3-4FC0-8CD4-A40E08D58407_jpeg-986102.JPG In person they look WAY more gray than anything and not at all tan. Probably still fits the definition of “taupe” though. I hate them and they’ll be going in the EE shortly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
Originally Posted By JohnJr:
Does anyone know where the KAC taupe front sight is in stock? Thanks! Jj https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/122B787A-345E-4D34-B532-0C6EC31A9FEB_jpeg-986101.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/55E7FA65-6BE3-4FC0-8CD4-A40E08D58407_jpeg-986102.JPG In person they look WAY more gray than anything and not at all tan. Probably still fits the definition of “taupe” though. I hate them and they’ll be going in the EE shortly. |
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Genofromreno still has black 99051 for 160ish in the Ee
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Originally Posted By Jlgil73:
If you DM or email him (whichever he prefers in his posting), he probably has taupe as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jlgil73:
Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Genofromreno still has black 99051 for 160ish in the Ee Jj |
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Originally Posted By M4arc:
I can't even purchase one...my local GS has alerts set up with every distributor for a tan NT4 and so far nothing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By M4arc:
Originally Posted By SlasherMcGee:
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In stock NT4, black or taupe.
https://tarheelstatefirearms.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=24_59&product_id=329 |
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Practice, the master of all things. - Augustus
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"All welchers should be removed from the EE"-Aimless
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Swapped out the Larue mount for a QRP, painted the vfg and mounted the peq. http://i.imgur.com/0UwYTt7.jpg View Quote |
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One more beer won't hurt
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Originally Posted By krdt: Obviously designed to work in conjunction with the clandestine cow transport vehicle. http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/moo.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TigerHawk:
Swapped out the Larue mount for a QRP, painted the vfg and mounted the peq. http://i.imgur.com/0UwYTt7.jpg View Quote |
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We are not citizens, We are suspects.
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Originally Posted By Conner378:
Broke a atpial-c last week so picked up a new modern laser. https://i.postimg.cc/ydpbRvwk/8-C7-DDF06-6-C06-4-F48-9-C9-D-46752-CD455-F2.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Conner378:
Broke a atpial-c last week so picked up a new modern laser. https://i.postimg.cc/ydpbRvwk/8-C7-DDF06-6-C06-4-F48-9-C9-D-46752-CD455-F2.jpg View Quote @conner378 |
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Recently got a RIS II for my build that is currently in a pistol configuration (SBA3). Need input on my next big purchase: convert to SBR, or get a can? I'm not super worried about being 100% correct with this build, but I'd definitely like to add to what I have by making/getting NFA items. What do you guys think?
A lot of the parts I have aren't necessarily clone correct, but here's a list of what I have (mainly going for an aesthetic clone): Lower: Geissele Tricon Trigger Geissele Buffer and Spring in a mil-spec tube Magpul MOE grip SBA3, will change it for a B5 once I make my decision on which NFA item I want first Aero M4E1 stripped lower w/ parts kit Upper: DD RIS II w/ original hardware 10.5 Rosco barrel, gas block, gas tube, and bcg KAC USMC marked rear sight DD fixed front sight EOTech Exps 3-0 w/ G33 SureFire 3 prong, want to get a can too Aero stripped upper w/ parts kit |
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