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Posted: 3/16/2014 2:38:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot]
When discussing the Mk 18 / CQBR program, we can divide the history and discussion in to two distinct categories: 1) The weapon system itself / upper receiver supplied and 2) the group of accessories deployed on said weapon systems (SOPMOD).
---------- Mk 18 Mod 0 / CQBR The M4 carbine and M16 are not ideally suited for all missions, so it was proposed that the modularity of the M16 series would allow a user to replace the upper receiver of an existing weapon with one more suitable to the task. One of two proposed special mission receivers that were planned for inclusion into the SOPMOD Block II kit, the CQBR has taken off on its own. Like the proposed Special Purpose Receiver, the Close Quarters Battle Receiver has been more or less taken on by the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (often referred to as NSWC-Crane or just "Crane") as its own project following the CQBR's removal from the SOPMOD program. Just as the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into the Special Purpose Rifle, and was type-classified as Mk 12 Mod 0/1, the complete CQBR-equipped carbine has been type-classified as the Mk 18 Mod 0. The purpose of the CQBR remains to provide operators with a weapon of submachine gun size, but firing a rifle cartridge, for scenarios such as VIP protection, urban warfare, and other close quarters battle (CQB) situations. The CQBR is designed to provide improvement over previous AR-15/M16-type weapons in this category. The CQBR is usually issued as a complete weapon system, and not just an upper receiver. The CQBR was once only available to Naval Special Warfare units, but the Mk 18 Mod 0 has become general issue for Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure (VBSS) missions and, as of 2006, for NCIS agents deploying to active combat zones.[citation needed] The Mk 18 is also used by the Coast Guard's Tactical Law Enforcement Teams, Maritime Safety and Security Teams, and Maritime Security Response Team and the United States Navy's Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Operators. Wikipedia has a good article with sources on the original CQBR/Mk 18 Mod 0 and its development. ---------- SOPMOD The SOPMOD Program Management Office at NSWC Crane, IN, provides standardized, versatile weapons accessories to meet needs across SOF mission scenarios. These accessories increase operator survivability and lethality by enhanced weapon performance, target acquisition, signature suppression, and fire control. The CQBR itself was originally part of the SOPMOD program as an accessory replacement upper receiver for the M4. However it was eventually separated out into its own project. SOPMOD accessories for the M4/CQBR originally included things like the KAC RIS/RAS, SOPMOD stock, KAC M4QD suppressor, AN/PEQ-2 illuminator/laser, ECOS-N red dot, ACOG, etc The SOPMOD program has gone through multiple minor and major evolutions throughout its lifetime. The most significant is commonly defined as "Block II" and included the introduction/replacement of accessories that met the updated needs of operators. The most visually significant "Block II" accessory is probably the replacement of the KAC rail/FSB with the Daniel Defense RIS II free float rail with low-profile gas block. Other updates include things like the Surefire SOCOM sound suppressor, EOTech RDS (553/SU-231 & EXPS 3-0/SU-231a), LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, etc ---------- Link to docs and photo albums Presentation on CQBR from Crane Operator's Manual for Mk 18 Mod 0 SOPMOD Program Overview presentation from Crane Photo Album of Mk 18 Mod 0 Photo Album of CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories ---------- Because of the long history of both the CQBR/Mk 18 and SOPMOD programs, it's common to find weapons with various mixed configurations in the field, all depending on what time and unit the weapon system belongs to. Below are a few examples with descriptions to illustrate this. ![]() Example of a Mk 18 Mod 0 in as-issued configuration including: M16A1 surplus lower receiver, SOPMOD buttstock, KAC RIS, KAC M4QD flash hider, Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox mount, LMT rear fixed sight, CQD rear sling plate. ![]() NSW Operator CQBRs with original SOPMOD accessories including KAC M4QD sound suppressor and AN/PEQ-2 IR Illuminator/Laser. ![]() Member of a Combat Camera team with a CQBR with KAC RAS and M4QD flash hider but with other updated accessories from the "Block II" SOPMOD kit including SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0), EOTech G33 Magnifier, LA-5/PEQ ATPIAL, Insight WMX-200. ![]() Good example of "early" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including SU-231 (EOTech 553) and SU-233 (Insight M3x weaponlight). ![]() Example of a more "modern" CQBR with SOPMOD Block II accessories including the updated SU-231a (EOTech EXPS 3-0) and Insight WMX-200 weaponlight. ![]() Many times certain configurations are common within certain branches/groups. Here a Marine Raider is seen with a CQBR with an AN/PEQ-16 (USMC issued vs. the LA-5/PEQ SOCOM issued ATPIAL) and KAC NT4 suppressor (vs. the current Surefire SOCOM suppressor). ---------- Building a clone If you're interested in building a "clone" of a Mk 18 or CQBR equipped M4A1, here is a basic parts list to use as a guide and get you started. This list is not exhaustive and see the * note above regarding personalized accessories. | Mk 18 Mod 0 | M4A1 CQBR Block I | M4A1 CQBR Block II Lower Receiver | Mil-spec forged A1 | Mil-spec forged A2 | Mil-spec forged A2 Stock | Gen 1 SOPMOD (Black) | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others | M4, CAR, SOPMOD, CTR & others Pistol Grip | A1 | A2, ERGO & others | A2, ERGO & others Rear Sling Plate | CQD | CQD | CQD Upper Receiver | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile | Mil-spec forged M4 profile Barrel | 10.3" | 10.3" | 10.3" Rail | KAC RIS | KAC RAS | DD Mk18 RIS II (FDE) Rear BUIS | LMT Fixed | LMT Fixed, MATECH, & others | MATECH, KAC 300m, & others Front Sight | A2 FSB | A2 FSB | KAC 99051 BUIS (Taupe) Front Sling Attachment | FSB Sling Swivel | FSB Sling Swivel | CQD Muzzle Device | KAC M4QD | KAC M4QD | SureFire FH-556-RC Supressor | None | KAC QDSS NT4 | SureFire SOCOM556-RC (FDE) LAM | None | PEQ-2 | LA-5 Weaponlight | SureFire M962 | SureFire M952, M962 | Insight M3X (Tan), Insight WMX200 (Bronze) Optic | Aimpoint Comp M2 in Wilcox Mount | Aimpoint Comp M2 in QRP Mount, ACOG | EOTech 553 (Tan), EOTech EXPS3-0 (Tan), ELCAN 1-4x (FDE) ---------- Link to previous threads Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part I Previous Mk 18 / CQBR Thread Part II |
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Originally Posted By eodinert:
On the new lowers, the roll mark is pressed in, and all of the other markings are laser engraved. The laser engravings look different, as there is no displaced metal from the stamping process. Not a bad way to do things, just different. View Quote |
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I? am debating if I? should stick with a 10.5 barrel that I? have. Or should I? dish out the extra funds to buy a 10.3 barrel?
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By Rauh:
I? am debating if I? should stick with a 10.5 barrel that I? have. Or should I? dish out the extra funds to buy a 10.3 barrel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rauh:
I? am debating if I? should stick with a 10.5 barrel that I? have. Or should I? dish out the extra funds to buy a 10.3 barrel? Originally Posted By eMc9001: 10.3 Masterrace. |
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Unless broke as a mofo 10.3 is always the answer
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Likes to lift heavy ass weight, set back down, then repeat.
Colt all the shits! |
At $110 for BA 10.3" w/ a .070 gas port, you'd have to be real broke. It's not a colt, but it's cheap. I've considered that route for my next build although I'm sure somethin colt will usually be available in the EE.
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I just picked up an Andro 10.3 FSB (.070 gas port) after selling my unholy 11.5 upper and fit/finish looks very nice. Much easier to pull the trigger on that than one of SA's for nearly 3x the price. Month #11 for NT4 continues .....
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Originally Posted By dafro:
For anyone who bought the upper/bcg/CH fron shark arms, did your bolts have the white dot and did your CH have the cage code? Mine did not. The keyhole upper was perfect though. I'm a bit new, but my understanding is no dot and cage code does not necessarily mean it's not legit colt. Thanks! View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Unless broke as a mofo 10.3 is always the answer View Quote ![]() |
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Likes to lift heavy ass weight, set back down, then repeat.
Colt all the shits! |
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Originally Posted By Socomike:
Im alive, Bro. Just plugging away at my doctorate. Christmas got me back into the MK18 game. Been lurking a little. Avatar as soon as I find 25 extra dollars haha View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Holy shit he's still alive. You need your avatar back sir....and a 10.3" barrel. ![]() ![]() |
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If you have to ask, it's ghetto.. FO! FO full retard. |
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Originally Posted By Socomike:
Broooo....I appreciate it big time. One of these days, Ill pay it forward. Now every former .mil guy gets to experience that sharp stab in the gut when the round brown enters the room. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By fridge72:
Merry Christmas. Try logging out and back in again. ![]() Now every former .mil guy gets to experience that sharp stab in the gut when the round brown enters the room. As correct as these are gonna get.. ![]() |
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Needs more BEEF EL.
If you have to ask, it's ghetto.. FO! FO full retard. |
Much bettah. Good stuff fridge
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Likes to lift heavy ass weight, set back down, then repeat.
Colt all the shits! |
Did some shooting with a fellow 18C on Christmas day somewhere along the Pak/Afghan border region. Burrowed his rifle for some drills before switching over to my G19.
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Originally Posted By AR_Marv:
Mine does not have the white dot either on the bolt. Bolt looks brand new - I dont see any brass on the bolt face from test firing. Carrier is “c” marked though and bolt is marked MPC. Can’t comment to on the CH as I didn’t get one. Anybody else have any thoughts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AR_Marv:
Originally Posted By dafro:
For anyone who bought the upper/bcg/CH fron shark arms, did your bolts have the white dot and did your CH have the cage code? Mine did not. The keyhole upper was perfect though. I'm a bit new, but my understanding is no dot and cage code does not necessarily mean it's not legit colt. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Rauh:
I? am debating if I? should stick with a 10.5 barrel that I? have. Or should I? dish out the extra funds to buy a 10.3 barrel? View Quote ![]() I'll go with a 10.3" on my next build. |
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Colt M4 lower dropped to $199.99 plus the $10 FFL fee on Brownells. Can be had for around $191 with a filler item to get you over $200 and code H7L.
Colt Lower |
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Originally Posted By blindrocket:
I went with a Rosco Bloodline 10.5? M4 5.56 NATO but only because Garand Thumb told me to. ![]() I'll go with a 10.3" on my next build. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AR_Marv:
Colt M4 lower dropped to $199.99 plus the $10 FFL fee on Brownells. Can be had for around $191 with a filler item to get you over $200 and code H7L. Colt Lower View Quote One is coming my way! Put $300.95 worth of stuff in my cart and used LQ9 ($30 off $300+). With AJ it comes out to about $177 before the FFL Processing/transfer fees. I hope it’s not too beat! Actually, I don’t really mind about that...I just hope it doesn’t have the magwell issue shown a few posts back. AJ Invite for $10 cashback if you want it! |
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Originally Posted By fridge72:
Thats all an arfcommer can ask for. As correct as these are gonna get.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318446/9294C409-72AE-48DC-8C3D-4B1B70F8418D-402463.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Did some shooting with a fellow 18C on Christmas day somewhere along the Pak/Afghan border region. Burrowed his rifle for some drills before switching over to my G19. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/20171225_140451_rz-402764.JPG CD View Quote ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Socomike:
What is your impression of the more upright pistol grip? I'm considering going to one of those. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Socomike:
Originally Posted By fridge72:
Thats all an arfcommer can ask for. As correct as these are gonna get.. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/318446/9294C409-72AE-48DC-8C3D-4B1B70F8418D-402463.JPG |
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Someone here was asking about the IUD labels. Seen square, rectanglar and circular. Here's a circle one getting replaced with the new rectangle one.
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14'&17' |
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Someone here was asking about the IUD labels. Seen square, rectanglar and circular. Here's a circle one getting replaced with the new rectangle one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4651_rz-403629.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4650_rz-403646.JPG CD View Quote ![]() |
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Originally Posted By Socomike: What is your impression of the more upright pistol grip? I’m considering going to one of those. View Quote Magpul has the K2 or the K2+ which features a similar grip angle. Not a big magpul fan myself. Only thing I really like of theirs is the ms4 sling. |
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Needs more BEEF EL.
If you have to ask, it's ghetto.. FO! FO full retard. |
Originally Posted By fridge72:
I prefer it MUCH more. I have pretty long arms and it taking some of the cant out of the grip makes it easier for me to keep my arm tucked. I run the bcm grip on all my rifles. Magpul has the K2 or the K2+ which features a similar grip angle. Not a big magpul fan myself. Only thing I really like of theirs is the ms4 sling. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Someone here was asking about the IUD labels. Seen square, rectanglar and circular. Here's a circle one getting replaced with the new rectangle one. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4651_rz-403629.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_4650_rz-403646.JPG CD View Quote *scraaaaaaatch* ![]() |
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Colt all the shit!
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Just a heads up. I went through another thread about the Brownells Colt lowers, read all the Brownell's Q&A, and picked up whatever other info about them I could find. I was fully prepared to get a "CR" lower with a blem'd rollmark. On the 19th I ordered one, it shipped on the 22nd, and arrived at my FFL yesterday. I picked it up today and it was a "blem" LE6920 lower. ETA: I say "Blem" because of the rollmark everything else is just the same as my last 10 LE6920s Pics of the Brownell's lower https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_18-404094.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_28-404095.jpg View Quote |
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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How is everyone else running their M300 on a Gear Sector Mount? Just got mine in, and set it up like this.
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Just a heads up. I went through another thread about the Brownells Colt lowers, read all the Brownell's Q&A, and picked up whatever other info about them I could find. I was fully prepared to get a "CR" lower with a blem'd rollmark. On the 19th I ordered one, it shipped on the 22nd, and arrived at my FFL yesterday. I picked it up today and it was a "blem" LE6920 lower. ETA: I say "Blem" because of the rollmark everything else is just the same as my last 10 LE6920s Pics of the Brownell's lower https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_18-404094.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_28-404095.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Just a heads up. I went through another thread about the Brownells Colt lowers, read all the Brownell's Q&A, and picked up whatever other info about them I could find. I was fully prepared to get a "CR" lower with a blem'd rollmark. On the 19th I ordered one, it shipped on the 22nd, and arrived at my FFL yesterday. I picked it up today and it was a "blem" LE6920 lower. ETA: I say "Blem" because of the rollmark everything else is just the same as my last 10 LE6920s Pics of the Brownell's lower https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_18-404094.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-28_15_10_28-404095.jpg Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
How is everyone else running their M300 on a Gear Sector Mount? Just got mine in, and set it up like this.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/315898/B04A7B69-DEEA-4691-83FD-A776D1778092-404479.JPG That's the same spot I ran mine previously, and unless I end up springing for an SR07 remote switch, it'll go back into the same spot; when I actually get the new FDE mount, that is :\. For now I've got it in the same spot using the factory mount. |
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Practice, the master of all things. - Augustus
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Originally Posted By AS556:
![]() That was nice of you Fridge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AS556:
Originally Posted By fridge72:
Merry Christmas. Try logging out and back in again. ![]() ![]() That was nice of you Fridge. ![]() |
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Needs more BEEF EL.
If you have to ask, it's ghetto.. FO! FO full retard. |
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
How is everyone else running their M300 on a Gear Sector Mount? Just got mine in, and set it up like this.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/315898/B04A7B69-DEEA-4691-83FD-A776D1778092-404479.JPG View Quote |
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Ugh stupid SF M300C TAN Scoutlights! I ordered one from SF like a week ago and then like 6 days after ordering it I received an email saying opps, sorry it's out of stock but we will have more in like 3 weeks.
I ended up ordering another one from IWC for $220.00 shipped so actually about $2.00 less than directly from SF with that "allthelumens" discount code even. I had my tracking number like 12 hours later, says it will be here in 3 days. I still have a hold on my AMX card from SF. I called them to find out how long it's going to take for that to drop off, they told me to call back in a week if it hasn't. I called AMX, they said up to 30 days. I'm also seeing where a guy over in the Lights and Lasers section cancelled his order with SF also and they told him "OK" and then a week or two later he got a "your item shipped" notification. I had planned to buy one of those SF Training SOCOM RC's but now all my Christmas money is tied up in SF Scoutlights and at this point, I might end up with two LOL! |
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Ugh stupid SF M300C TAN Scoutlights! I ordered one from SF like a week ago and then like 6 days after ordering it I received an email saying opps, sorry it's out of stock but we will have more in like 3 weeks. I ended up ordering another one from IWC for $220.00 shipped so actually about $2.00 less than directly from SF with that "allthelumens" discount code even. I had my tracking number like 12 hours later, says it will be here in 3 days. I still have a hold on my AMX card from SF. I called them to find out how long it's going to take for that to drop off, they told me to call back in a week if it hasn't. I called AMX, they said up to 30 days. I'm also seeing where a guy over in the Lights and Lasers section cancelled his order with SF also and they told him "OK" and then a week or two later he got a "your item shipped" notification. I had planned to buy one of those SF Training SOCOM RC's but now all my Christmas money is tied up in SF Scoutlights and at this point, I might end up with two LOL! View Quote ![]() |
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Shot the Mod 0 today for the first time. Felt great to get back into the platform. Now, because of you people, I have a Colt lower coming.
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Ugh stupid SF M300C TAN Scoutlights! I ordered one from SF like a week ago and then like 6 days after ordering it I received an email saying opps, sorry it's out of stock but we will have more in like 3 weeks. I ended up ordering another one from IWC for $220.00 shipped so actually about $2.00 less than directly from SF with that "allthelumens" discount code even. I had my tracking number like 12 hours later, says it will be here in 3 days. I still have a hold on my AMX card from SF. I called them to find out how long it's going to take for that to drop off, they told me to call back in a week if it hasn't. I called AMX, they said up to 30 days. I'm also seeing where a guy over in the Lights and Lasers section cancelled his order with SF also and they told him "OK" and then a week or two later he got a "your item shipped" notification. I had planned to buy one of those SF Training SOCOM RC's but now all my Christmas money is tied up in SF Scoutlights and at this point, I might end up with two LOL! View Quote |
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Just got a transfer in from these guys for a customer. Saw the price..
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Needs more BEEF EL.
If you have to ask, it's ghetto.. FO! FO full retard. |
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Originally Posted By fridge72:
Just got a transfer in from these guys for a customer. Saw the price.. ![]() https://www.armsunlimited.com/SureFire-Fast-Attach-Rifle-Sound-Suppressor-p/socom556-rc.htm View Quote I thought my $825 snag from them for a FDE SOCOM556RC was a good deal... |
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Originally Posted By TheManimal: Thanks for letting us know. I'll steer clear of SF then when I order mine. If you end up with 2 it just means you have to build another MK18 upper ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheManimal: Thanks for letting us know. I'll steer clear of SF then when I order mine. If you end up with 2 it just means you have to build another MK18 upper ![]() Originally Posted By krdt: Yeah, SF seems to have a real problem when it comes to fucking about with your card. They charged me at least 4 different times (maybe 5, I lost count) between when I ordered my M300C and the time it shipped. Each time holding the charge for several days and then releasing it; kinda annoying to have them tying up $200+ every week or so. I get a single hold charge when you place the order to verify funds followed by a release and then a second charge when it actually ships, but they were doing it constantly from late November until it shipped December 18th or whatever day it was. Really odd way to do things. I should have known better than to order from SF directly! I called them up one time to get some shims for a 4P which did end up being free but it took 2 months to get them. Unfortunately I didn't know IWC was selling them for $220.00 at the time, that is like $1.86 less than Surefire even with the "allthelumens" code as I mentioned AND they apparently do have them in-stock. Like I said I ordered a second one from them and received my shipped notification about 12 hours later and I've gotten two USPS updates since then so it's on a truck somewhere and will be here Tuesday! I probably won't even have my refund from Surefire by Tuesday at this rate. If anyone's looking for a TAN Scout M300C Mini just order it from IWC for $220.00 and use the discount code "Tango" for free shipping. http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/surefire-m300-mini-scout-500lum-tn/ |
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- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.
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Originally Posted By fridge72:
Just got a transfer in from these guys for a customer. Saw the price.. ![]() https://www.armsunlimited.com/SureFire-Fast-Attach-Rifle-Sound-Suppressor-p/socom556-rc.htm View Quote |
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Originally Posted By fridge72:
Just got a transfer in from these guys for a customer. Saw the price.. ![]() https://www.armsunlimited.com/SureFire-Fast-Attach-Rifle-Sound-Suppressor-p/socom556-rc.htm View Quote |
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