Are y'all going to start submitting papers again or wait to see what happens with eForms?  Reason I'm asking is I received the email today for the 7.62 Saker being available and didn't have a chance to call in to complete the order.  I don't want to lose my spot on the wait list but I'm also not crazy about the wait times with submitting hard copies & am willing to wait it out a little first. Any suggestions?

Well we are talking the governemnt and if they are going to rebuild the site from scratch  you are talking a good long wait. And with the back log of efiles getting close to 5 months anyways I would just do a a paper one. With most of the forms being submitted by Efile I would bet you should see a slight drop in the time to get paper forms back at least untill the masses start using paper again.

If your gona do it do it now lol

Appreciate it - calling in Monday morning.

SS looks like they're gonna wait it out -- taken from their site:

"Since eForms went down on April 4th, we’ve spent quite a bit of time figuring out what to do with our existing submissions.

Flash back to the Government shutdown and you’ll remember a similar message that went up on the eForms website asking people to submit forms by paper; and, although it wasn’t obvious at the time, submitting on paper turned out not to be a good decision.

Bearing that in mind, this is what we’re currently planning:

   We’re going to give eForms 2-3 weeks to see what happens.  During that time, we will continue to talk with the ATF to see if a solid decision has been reached on the near future of the system.
   In the meantime, we will continue to queue paperwork for electronic submission – so it will be ready to go when the eForms system comes back online.
   If you prefer to have your paperwork submitted on a paper form, please let us know right away and we’ll get it submitted.  Having said that, we do believe waiting will probably be the faster/better alternative.

Once again, we’ll keep this blog updated as we receive more information."

Posted April 07, 2014

Link?

http://www.silencershop.com/media/blog/

Silencer Shop: What Are We Doing About eForms?

Good to hear they are going to give it some time before they go back to submitting paperwork.

I got caught up in this.  I purchased a can from SS on October 4 and requested that they wait to efile it.  They flat refused and mailed it in.  It went pending December 2.  It'll probably be approved in August.  I would have had it by now if they had waited as I requested.    

Same with me.  I requested to wait for the eForms to come back online (govt shutdown time) and then submit.  It went 'electronic' submission, which is just a paper submission.  After the shutdown was over I submitted an eForm SBR and got that back in January.  I waited another week or so expecting my Form 4s to be arriving any day.  Decided to call ATF.  Was told it went pending in December.  Called SS and found out what happened.  Was less than pleased, to put it nicely.  Requested a cancellation of the paper form, and re-submitted eForm.  I'll probably end up getting them in August/September anyway due to eForms being a joke now.  Should have just left it a paper form.  Really annoyed though b/c have the SBR ready to go, but no can to go with it now for another several months.  Should have had them 2 months ago.  Their communication was sub-par last time and I think this go-round they are doing a much better job.  So much for the time for me to get in to NFA goodies.  Oh well.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have insisted on paper F4 for my octane that was efiled on 01/03.  

I could be very wrong, but my gut tells me I would have gotten the paper F4 back before/if I get the E-F4 back.

I am interested in knowing what's up with Form 3s. I'm at around 5 weeks on [an e-filed] one. My desire is to get it into my dealer's hands ASAP so I can snail-mail the damn thing, but now I'm left twiddling my thumbs waiting on the ATF and waiting on SS waiting on the ATF.

It would be great to see some e-filed Form 3 approvals to say the least.

You should be up soon. My purchase from SS 3/1 and approval came through on 4/7. Paper formed yesterday. Now to wait.

Thanks for the update, that brings me a little hope.

Here's to your wait being as short as possible.

The chart on SS page shows they are receiving form 4 paper submissions with a trust filed 5-2013-9/2013. My e-f4 was filed 11/25/2013. Paper submissions are fixing to catch e-form submissions it appears. I'll wait on these because I have no choice but they will be my last nfa purchases until this is all fixed for good( which will be never) what a crock of shit !!!!

I purchased from SS on 2/27 and got an email saying it was filed on 2/28....... Still waiting.

I'm in the exact same boat.  The person that dealt with NFA items was out when I had the dealer put in an order, but they said they e-form everything and that was at the end of February.  I'm not sure where they ordered it from though.  I will likely do a paper form 4 as well if the form 3 goes through.

Same boat. I have a Saker 762 on order with another vendor and would have cancelled that to do the SS Direct. Hard to know what the right direction is at this point.

Yeah, NFA says I was pending as of 1/4 (form 3 e-filing).  SS says there was some submission error with the e-filing.  They say it was an "ATF error with serial numbers." I don't know what that means, but I'm feeling shortchanged when I see people getting them approved in a matter of weeks and it has still been months for me.

i inquired about my form 4 submitted 11/25/13 e-form through a trust. silencer shop basically had no answer. they havnt received any approvals since the site went down even though the atf said they would still process what was already submitted normally. i wish i would have just paper filed everything. i have 2 form 1's and 4 form 4's all filed through e-forms and now there is no telling when i may see them.

personally i would not purchase anything new right now. it appears there is no telling what could happen with e-forms or paper submissions.no one really knows anything at all.

ATF Letter 04-16-14 / eForms Update

"During the next few weeks as the eForms is enhanced, ATF anticipates that the eForms system will accept processing of Forms 6 and 6A initially, followed by forms 1, 2, 5, 9, 5300.11 and 10. Paper

applications via any form will continue to be processed, and Forms 3 and 4 will be prioritized. We expect Forms 3 and 4 to return to eForms very soon, as the enhancements are completed. To see a

full explanation of this issue and the steps ATF is taking to address the issue, see the following letter. We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work diligently to improve the eForms

system. "

" Paper applications via any form will continue to be processed, and Forms 3 and 4 will be prioritized. We expect Forms 3 and 4 to return to eForms very soon, as the enhancements are completed."