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Street price is right around $2300
Feel free to take a trip to St. Louis, you can shoot my DD5 As far as selectors and port door being plastic, who gives a shiOt? Are you one to bitch about the millions of polymer pistols in the marketplace? The port door fits a lot better than any stamped model I have ever seen. |
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Polymer has its place. Like mags. I have no problem with that. Daniel is just cutting corners and guys like you defend it. Just like the guys that defend the plastic trigger guards on Remington 870's. Hey, whatever makes yourself feel better. I prefer metal.
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Polymer has its place. Like mags. I have no problem with that. Daniel is just cutting corners and guys like you defend it. Just like the guys that defend the plastic trigger guards on Remington 870's. Hey, whatever makes yourself feel better. I prefer metal. View Quote I'm sure similar statements were made when the first polymer magazines were introduced. |
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Polymer has its place. Like mags. I have no problem with that. Daniel is just cutting corners and guys like you defend it. Just like the guys that defend the plastic trigger guards on Remington 870's. Hey, whatever makes yourself feel better. I prefer metal. View Quote Dude,.....go troll some where else. You have trolled every thread you can. Guess you will be getting banned again soon and will register again with a new user id |
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Polymer has its place. Like mags. I have no problem with that. Daniel is just cutting corners and guys like you defend it. Just like the guys that defend the plastic trigger guards on Remington 870's. Hey, whatever makes yourself feel better. I prefer metal. View Quote Your ignorance is showing. And if you knew how the original 870 trigger guards were made you would welcome the polymer ones too. |
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I think $2300 is fair for it ... Grab a gun and others have them at that price which I think is reasonable View Quote I suspect the MSRP is set too high considering dealer cost. The Mk12 is priced at ~2000 and regularly goes for 1700-1800. The V11 Pro MSRP is around 1800 and goes for ~1650. Setting the price at 2.5k would have made a lot more sense to some extent. |
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All I really want to see is some pictures of paper with holes punched through.....
I want to purchase one but until I see how well this rifle groups I'm up on the fence... I the meanwhile I'll keep shooting my MWS |
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Found an article back from November last year
http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/test-daniel-defense-dd5v1-rifle/#swjf16-dd5v1-lead "At longer distances, the DD5V1 was extremely accurate, with groups at or under an inch, and the best five-shot group (using Desert Tech’s 175-grain match ammo) measured 0.67 inches.With its 1-in-11-inch twist rate, the rifle was consistent over a broad range of bullet weights from 155 to 175 grains. Although it wasn’t the most accurate load during testing, the Hornady 155-grain TAP would be just about perfect for deployments—it’s soft-shooting and consistent. Out to 300 yards, this load produced a 1.75-inch group, only a bit larger than the Desert Tech ammo. The A-MAX is a proven performer with consistent expansion and penetration, making it well suited to duty or self- defense applications. Using the U.S. Optics scope, I tested the DD5V1 on various steel targets from 50 to 500 yards. Loaded with any of the 168- or 175-grain match ammo, it was possible to get consistent hits on steel even with quite a bit of wind. Given a bipod and time to settle in, this rifle would be as accurate as the AR platform gets short of dedicated precision applications. Firing from a bag, unsupported prone and less conventional positions, the DD5V1 was excellent. It fit into my “one rifle” requirements perfectly." |
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Found an article back from November last year http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/test-daniel-defense-dd5v1-rifle/#swjf16-dd5v1-lead "the best five-shot group (using Desert Tech’s 175-grain match ammo) measured 0.67 inches.With its 1-in-11-inch twist rate, the Hornady 155-grain TAP load produced a 1.75-inch group, only a bit larger than the Desert Tech ammo. " View Quote guess almost 3 times the size is not much bigger?? |
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Found an article back from November last year http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/test-daniel-defense-dd5v1-rifle/#swjf16-dd5v1-lead "the best five-shot group (using Desert Tech’s 175-grain match ammo) measured 0.67 inches.With its 1-in-11-inch twist rate, the Hornady 155-grain TAP load produced a 1.75-inch group, only a bit larger than the Desert Tech ammo. " guess almost 3 times the size is not much bigger?? My thoughts exactly when I read it! I was like But if it can shoot .67" groups with the ammo it likes that is promising Still though I wanna see some actual damn videos/images of a target |
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Edit: Trying to reach and Admin so I can not be a 'new user' anymore. Please standy by. |
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I put about 75 rounds (all suppressed) through the rifle today and I love it; its a real pussycat to shoot. I haven't shot much rifle in the past year and my skills are average at best but I managed some 1 MOA groups at 100 yards with a variety of ammo. I did not think 1 moa groups needed pictures. It liked Hornady Steel Match 155, Federal Gold Medal Match 168, and the pleasant surprise PMC Bronze 147. Federal XM80 is also likely a good decent round but I was getting sloppy towards the end of the session.
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I put about 75 rounds (all suppressed) through the rifle today and I love it; its a real pussycat to shoot. I haven't shot much rifle in the past year and my skills are average at best but I managed some 1 MOA groups at 100 yards with a variety of ammo. I did not think 1 moa groups needed pictures. It liked Hornady Steel Match 155, Federal Gold Medal Match 168, and the pleasant surprise PMC Bronze 147. Federal XM80 is also likely a good decent round but I was getting sloppy towards the end of the session. Clean up of the bolt and carrier were much easier than I expected. The pictures you see here are post clean up with a dry paper towel only; I called it matte chrome before but it really does seem slicker. View Quote Have you shot it unsuppressed? I'm curious how gassy the rife is with a can on it If I get one it will be suppressed most of the time so I wouldn't want it to beat itself up ...... I know an adjustable GB is always an option |
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Eames,
Your links to the photos are asking for a username and password. Thanks for the feedback though. I am seriously looking to get the DD5. |
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Quoted: Have you shot it unsuppressed? I'm curious how gassy the rife is with a can on it If I get one it will be suppressed most of the time so I wouldn't want it to beat itself up ...... I know an adjustable GB is always an option View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Have you shot it unsuppressed? I'm curious how gassy the rife is with a can on it If I get one it will be suppressed most of the time so I wouldn't want it to beat itself up ...... I know an adjustable GB is always an option No, I spun the muzzle device off on day one. I did not feel like I was getting blasted in the face by anything, and shooting was enjoyable. I was complemented by a couple others who said it sounded great for a suppressed 308, even indoors with others shooting. I'll see if I can get some video at some point of outdoors, suppressed. I can say this as a comparison point however; it was exponentially better than trying to shoot an M1A suppressed, even with an adjustable gas plug, and a optics mount that covered most of the action area; I got blasted in the face every shot, and when I dialed down the gas plug to where it was a little better it wouldn't cycle. I saw a video where a guy drilled holes in the bottom of the stock to bleed off more pressure, but it just became too much of a hassle. |
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I wonder what kind of coating the BCG uses, it appears to wipe off relatively well. Is it hard chrome? It doesn't look shiny enough to be NiB.
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Went out to shoot today and unfortunately, it was too wet to hit the outdoor range. At 25 yards and with a 3-18 Mark 6, it was boringly accurate. Pics are 20 rounds at 25 yards (yes...I know. Not a distance worth reporting on. But since its still crickets out there on seeing actual paper, I thought I would post anyway). Shooting cheap PMC 308 with an AAC SR7 suppressor and Atlas bipod. After around 5 shots, I started "expanding" the hole intentionally. Not to sound too much like a DD fanboy, but this thing is a tack driver. http://<a href=http://s15.postimg.org/64lxrtafb/Full_Size_Render.jpg</a>" /> http://postimg.org/image/64lxrtafb/ View Quote It better be a tack driver @ 25yds Nice setup you have there! let us know when you stretch it out a bit further |
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If they offer the ability to mount a replacement DD 12" MLOK rail, I'd be all over this. Until then, I'll wait.
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i got to shoot it at Acusport in Dallas. like someone else said it was boringly accurate. i would have taken pics but my target was shot to hell after everyone else got to shoot it that day so i was having fun and shooting the pasties out on the shoot n-c targets.
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OK; I got my pics fixed; no new content; I might be able to get to the range this weekend and she what kind of groups I can put together.
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OK - went out to shoot this over the weekend and starting having some issues while shooting suppressed. I was shooting mostly PMC 308 147gr but was having similar issues with Federal 168gr.
I had 1-2 FTE's per 10-15 shots. The spent cartridge was sideways, empty side out, and the next round was trying its best to reach the chamber, causing a fun jam to clear. I tried all the usual range remedies, from clean/lube to switching ammo...gave up after about 50 rounds. The gun only has about 100 rounds through it - I didn't see any issues with the first 50 rounds, but ran unsuppressed for the first 30 of those. Spoke to DD this morning and they recommended a heavier buffer spring. Any other thoughts/suggestions? I'm also thinking to get an adjustable gas block... Thanks in advance for the help...still somewhat new to running suppressed. |
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OK - went out to shoot this over the weekend and starting having some issues while shooting suppressed. I was shooting mostly PMC 308 147gr but was having similar issues with Federal 168gr. I had 1-2 FTE's per 10-15 shots. The spent cartridge was sideways, empty side out, and the next round was trying its best to reach the chamber, causing a fun jam to clear. I tried all the usual range remedies, from clean/lube to switching ammo...gave up after about 50 rounds. The gun only has about 100 rounds through it - I didn't see any issues with the first 50 rounds, but ran unsuppressed for the first 30 of those. Spoke to DD this morning and they recommended a heavier buffer spring. Any other thoughts/suggestions? I'm also thinking to get an adjustable gas block... Thanks in advance for the help...still somewhat new to running suppressed. View Quote Out of curiosity, does Daniel Defense use a proprietary buffer tube and buffer for this rifle or is it a carbine length AR-10 buffer tube? I am thinking about buying this rifle myself, so I was wondering what set up I would need to run it suppressed. Knight's for instance, uses a slightly longer buffer tube than other AR-10s along with a rifle length gas system. If you were getting casings stuck in the ejection port, a heavier buffer may help as the bolt carrier mght be cycling too fast. Did they at least recommend a certain buffer weight for you? I would go to Slash for assistance: http://heavybuffers.com/ar10carbine.html |
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I wish these manufacturers would think about us guys that shoot suppressed. Why make any rifle anymore without an adjustable gas block ? Exactly why I love Pws. No problems suppressed in 5.56 or .308 ??
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Talked with DD about this at length - they use a proprietary buffer (shorter due to the slightly longer BCG) and buffer spring, but said to try a SpringCo Orange carbine length spring (their Extra Power spring). I am going to try to get out this week and see if it helps. If not, I'll be getting an adjustable gas block and giving it a shot.
I've never had problems shooting my other DD rifles suppressed (have a V5 LW and a MK18) but the 308 may take some fine tuning. |
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Talked with DD about this at length - they use a proprietary buffer (shorter due to the slightly longer BCG) and buffer spring, but said to try a SpringCo Orange carbine length spring (their Extra Power spring). I am going to try to get out this week and see if it helps. If not, I'll be getting an adjustable gas block and giving it a shot. I've never had problems shooting my other DD rifles suppressed (have a V5 LW and a MK18) but the 308 may take some fine tuning. View Quote So they chose to design their bolt carrier to be slightly longer, while still using a carbine length AR-10 buffer tube in conjunction with a shorter buffer + whatever unspecified buffer spring? Why not just use a longer buffer tube like what Knight's does or the VLTOR A5? Makes no sense to me, but of course, I was not the guy who did the math behind the rifle when they were designing it. Out of curiosity, could someone post a picture of the DD 7.62's buffer and compare the length to one of Slash (Clint's) heavy buffers or even a standard CAR-10 buffer? These details are way too important to pass on. |
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I'll try to post a picture of the buffer DD uses for the 7.62 rifle.
I am running an AAC SR7 suppressor with an AAC 90T taper brake. Still trying to find time to get out and test the new spring. |
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Quoted: Out of curiosity, could someone post a picture of the DD 7.62's buffer and compare the length to one of Slash (Clint's) heavy buffers or even a standard CAR-10 buffer? These details are way too important to pass on. View Quote I posted that very comparison above. Let me know if you can't see the pictures after clicking on the links (not sure why they aren't visible when my earlier pictures are). |
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Out of curiosity, could someone post a picture of the DD 7.62's buffer and compare the length to one of Slash (Clint's) heavy buffers or even a standard CAR-10 buffer? These details are way too important to pass on. I posted that very comparison above. Let me know if you can't see the pictures after clicking on the links (not sure why they aren't visible when my earlier pictures are). Are you running suppressed? Did you have issues that caused you to make the buffer and spring switch and, if so, what issues (FTE, FTF, etc)? Thanks |
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I posted that very comparison above. Let me know if you can't see the pictures after clicking on the links (not sure why they aren't visible when my earlier pictures are). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Out of curiosity, could someone post a picture of the DD 7.62's buffer and compare the length to one of Slash (Clint's) heavy buffers or even a standard CAR-10 buffer? These details are way too important to pass on. I posted that very comparison above. Let me know if you can't see the pictures after clicking on the links (not sure why they aren't visible when my earlier pictures are). Sorry, I didn't realize that was the comparison. Glad to here Slash's buffer works though. That is a quick and easy fix. Likewise, what loads are you running on the DD 7.62 and with what suppressor in conjunction with this rifle? For me, I would be shooting mil spec 7.62 NATO "M80" loads 1/2 the time and 175/168 grain match loads the rest of the time (like Black Hills). If I can run both when taking the suppressor on and off, without changing buffers, I'm sold |
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You should be able to shoot 300 yards very, very easily with this rifle.
I hit 10 inch plates at 300 yards all day with a standard DD v9 and an aimpoint with no mag. You'll be able to drill a target at that range over and over with boring regularity. :) |
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Would a magpul UBR gen 1 be able to fit on the DD5? View Quote I don't believe we've tried this internally, but in theory it should work. While the buffer tube on the UBR is proprietary, it's the same length as a carbine buffer tube which is what our DD5 Buffer and Spring were designed for. |
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I don't believe we've tried this internally, but in theory it should work. While the buffer tube on the UBR is proprietary, it's the same length as a carbine buffer tube which is what our DD5 Buffer and Spring were designed for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would a magpul UBR gen 1 be able to fit on the DD5? I don't believe we've tried this internally, but in theory it should work. While the buffer tube on the UBR is proprietary, it's the same length as a carbine buffer tube which is what our DD5 Buffer and Spring were designed for. Thank you! Will you be offering the rifle with different rail configurations? I would ideally like a 12" MLOK version. What kind of accuracy can I expect out of the rifle with standard ammo? Good enough to engage gongs out to 600 yards? |
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Thank you! Will you be offering the rifle with different rail configurations? I would ideally like a 12" MLOK version. What kind of accuracy can I expect out of the rifle with standard ammo? Good enough to engage gongs out to 600 yards? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Would a magpul UBR gen 1 be able to fit on the DD5? I don't believe we've tried this internally, but in theory it should work. While the buffer tube on the UBR is proprietary, it's the same length as a carbine buffer tube which is what our DD5 Buffer and Spring were designed for. Thank you! Will you be offering the rifle with different rail configurations? I would ideally like a 12" MLOK version. What kind of accuracy can I expect out of the rifle with standard ammo? Good enough to engage gongs out to 600 yards? I'm seeing around 2 MOA accuracy with cheap stuff (PWC mostly). Sub MOA with Federal Gold Medal 175. |
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