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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:01:10 PM EDT
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Nope. I placed an order on Saturday night.
I've heard PSA's shipping was getting better so I rolled the dice for the first time in two years. We'll see. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:16:56 PM EDT
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Mine hasn't. Placed sat night
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:49:05 PM EDT
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I just placed an order for one case today (Tuesday) they still showed as being in stock. Then an hour later it showed they were out of stock. Keep me posted if your packages ship. I hope their inventory system is indeed accurate.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:01:44 PM EDT
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I ordered Friday night around 10. Hope it gets here before the weekend so I can use some in my carbine class. If not I'll use pmc/silver bear
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:39:29 PM EDT
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I just placed an order for one case today (Tuesday) they still showed as being in stock. Then an hour later it showed they were out of stock. Keep me posted if your packages ship. I hope their inventory system is indeed accurate. I checked sometime today and it was around $330 a case...not the $300 better deal. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:49:07 PM EDT
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(2)cases @ $299 Saturday at 6am. I project it on the porch next Wednesday best case scenerio...usualy situation I will see it Oct. 1
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Posted: 8/26/2014 8:59:50 PM EDT
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I ordered (1) case as an in-store pick up so that maybe I could make one trip and get the ammo along with the (2) pa10 lowers I ordered on the 15th. I haven't heard anything about either. I did get the (2) pa10 uppers 4 days after purchase, however. There doesn't really seem to be any way to predict it. Maybe it does have something to do with inventory.
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Posted: 8/27/2014 9:03:09 AM EDT
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Ups quantum received - stated weight is 1.4 pounds ? I did order a d&h mag too - maybe the mag shippd and the ammo didn't ship yet ???
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Posted: 8/27/2014 1:39:19 PM EDT
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Ups quantum received - stated weight is 1.4 pounds ? I did order a d&h mag too - maybe the mag shippd and the ammo didn't ship yet ??? They're sending you the mag loaded. Heaviest mag I've heard of... hehehe! And it will be in a big box!
I ordered same (Friday 8/22 10PM) as you. Ordered an Aimpoint PRO also. Got UPS Quantum notice (label created) for 2 lbs. this morning also. I'm sure the ammo will be along shortly, but I don't think you will get it for your weekend class. Anyway... Good Luck with your class! Shoot Safe, Shoot Straight, Have Fun! me |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 2:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ups quantum received - stated weight is 1.4 pounds ? I did order a d&h mag too - maybe the mag shippd and the ammo didn't ship yet ??? |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 3:18:42 PM EDT
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I ordered a case and an Aimpoint this weekend also. Just got an email with a tracking number today, but it is not active yet. The UPS site shows the package weight as 2.1 lbs.
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Posted: 8/27/2014 3:27:39 PM EDT
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I ordered a case and an Aimpoint this weekend also. Just got an email with a tracking number today, but it is not active yet. The UPS site shows the package weight as 2.1 lbs. You got a bigger box and more packing paper than me
Hopefully, all our ammo will be following soon after. I can deal with the wait, but makes it a whole lot more satisfying to get it quickly 
Good Luck All. me |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 5:32:29 PM EDT
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I just got a UPS Quantum notice (label created) for the ammo (27 lbs.).
PSA, you better slow it down some. We might start getting used to this 
me ETA: Both did ship Wednesday (08/27) and received today (Friday 08/29). Heeeeey, this box is full of rocks!  Just kidding!
Thanks PSA Hope everyone gets theirs soon too! |
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Posted: 8/27/2014 11:13:27 PM EDT
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My tracking number went active for the Aimpoint with a delivery date of 9/2.
My account page on PSA's site still shows the ammo as processing, but hopefully that will change soon. Items that are not completed uppers or firearms have always shipped rather quickly from PSA for me (usually within 10 days). |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 2:52:47 PM EDT
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Ordered Friday, got notice yesterday and went active last night be here Tuesday.
Record for sure. |
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Posted: 8/28/2014 8:12:59 PM EDT
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Mine shipped today, ordered last Saturday.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 11:45:54 PM EDT
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Still nothing for me - ordered 1000 round case of xm193 Friday 8/22 - PMed PalmettoStateArmory a few days ago w/ no response
same old song and dance with PSA  |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 1:02:21 AM EDT
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo.
I dont think anyone will get this ammo. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:59:39 AM EDT
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is 
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Posted: 9/1/2014 9:56:33 AM EDT
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wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is I got a tracking number a few days before the email saying it was out of stock. Turns out they shipped some small parts I ordered and not any ammo. From what I been hearing is Federal never sent any 1000 rd cases at all. So I wonder if its Federal or PSAs deal. I wish they would come on here and help us out. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:27:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got a tracking number a few days before the email saying it was out of stock. Turns out they shipped some small parts I ordered and not any ammo. From what I been hearing is Federal never sent any 1000 rd cases at all. So I wonder if its Federal or PSAs deal. I wish they would come on here and help us out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is I got a tracking number a few days before the email saying it was out of stock. Turns out they shipped some small parts I ordered and not any ammo. From what I been hearing is Federal never sent any 1000 rd cases at all. So I wonder if its Federal or PSAs deal. I wish they would come on here and help us out. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:38:42 AM EDT
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I would actually prefer the 20 round boxes but why have this mixup to start with. Either you have the item being sold or you do not.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:45:52 AM EDT
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I would actually prefer the 20 round boxes but why have this mixup to start with. Either you have the item being sold or you do not. From what it sounds like is they had or were getting a few pallets from federal so they put them up on the web. After looking at them they realized they posted the wrong ammo online. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 10:46:34 AM EDT
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They emailed me Saturday saying no bulk ammo available, but same exact ammo in 20 round boxes. Differnt packaging, same ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is I got a tracking number a few days before the email saying it was out of stock. Turns out they shipped some small parts I ordered and not any ammo. From what I been hearing is Federal never sent any 1000 rd cases at all. So I wonder if its Federal or PSAs deal. I wish they would come on here and help us out. did you take the substitute? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 2:14:10 PM EDT
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So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 2:18:25 PM EDT
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I just got the email saying it was same ammo, but coming in 20 round boxes.
No big deal to me if they can ship it soon. But this is one of the reasons I don't buy from them. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 2:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: did you take the substitute? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is I got a tracking number a few days before the email saying it was out of stock. Turns out they shipped some small parts I ordered and not any ammo. From what I been hearing is Federal never sent any 1000 rd cases at all. So I wonder if its Federal or PSAs deal. I wish they would come on here and help us out. did you take the substitute? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 3:03:49 PM EDT
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wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. wonder what meNmyARs received as he said he got his order on Friday unless he ordered boxes? I never received a call on the issue though; I guess I will send a PM and see what the deal is I previously ETA on Friday to my above entry. I did receive the bulk case ammo ordered and the Aimpoint PRO ordered at the same time. Received them both Friday (08/29) afternoon. I ordered (Friday 08/22 10PM) around the same time as MB223PGH did. I was hoping their new system was going to fix these type of issues as orders seem to be shipping out after a few days now. I guess it fixed most of the shipping time issues but apparently not the live inventory issues. I was really wishing PSA turned the page to a new chapter and going to end soon with a happy story. I guess the horror story continues on for a few more chapters. But, I have to still add... I've never had any issues with any of my orders from PSA, all came within the time frame given and never a problem with anything ordered. Hopefully PSA will get you guys lined out soon and everyone will receive ammo (bulk or boxes) you ordered. Federal or American Eagle XM193 5.56 is all the same, just different packaging. I do believe it all comes out of the Lake City plant outside of Independence, MO. Good Luck All. me |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 4:14:58 PM EDT
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I just got the email about the substitution today. I am okay with the 20 round boxes over the bulk pack, I am just disappointed it took them this long to get back to me about it. I ordered the ammo on 8/22 and now it looks like the earliest it will ship is tomorrow.
This is really just an annoyance more than anything. I am not needing the ammo for anything soon (or else I would not have ordered from PSA) but PSA not knowing what they have/don't have is not confidence inspiring. Oh well, in the big scheme of things this is not a deal breaker, but it does nothing to enhance PSA's somewhat dodgy reputation for reliability and transparency. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 5:23:03 PM EDT
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So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma. They said it was the same quality.... |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 5:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They said it was the same quality.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma. They said it was the same quality.... are they not the same quality? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 5:49:54 PM EDT
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So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma. They said it was the same quality.... are they not the same quality? I have always thought American eagle was lower end but everyone else feels they are the same. Just wanted the forums opinion. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 6:10:30 PM EDT
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I got the email for the substitute... I took the substitute also. For what its worth I have bought both AE and federal 193 in the past and its all the same stuff. It's all nato marked and you can even see the purple primer sealant on the AE ammo... it all comes out of the lake city plant. I cant complain too much since this price is so good, my only disappointment would be that if I get 50 20 rd boxes then I get exactly 1000rds, whereas when you get a bulk pack they do it by weight and always throw an extra handful of rounds in there "just to be sure." The flip side of that is that if its in 20 rd boxes I know exactly how much I have left a lot easier, so really no complaints as long as I get the frickin ammo without waiting a month on it, lol.
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Posted: 9/1/2014 6:24:50 PM EDT
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I have always thought American eagle was lower end but everyone else feels they are the same. Just wanted the forums opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma. They said it was the same quality.... are they not the same quality? I have always thought American eagle was lower end but everyone else feels they are the same. Just wanted the forums opinion. As I said above, somebody correct me if I am wrong, it all or most come from the Lake City Ammo Plant by Independence, MO. Lake City (LC) makes all sorts of different ammo for the military. Some rumor that the American Eagle XM193 is military rejects. That has never been verified. Several MOHTF guys work or worked there and said that wasn't true. I'll take their word for it. I've never had a problem with either. Federal and American Eagle XM193 is the only thing I shoot. Never got into the M855 thing and don't shoot cheap ammo. If you open a box of Federal XM193 or American Eagle XM193, they are both marked LC and a number (12 for 2012, 13 for 2013, 14 for 2014). Another crazy symbol on them too, probably for month or lot. I just opened the bulk box I just got (just to make sure I'm not losing my mind). They are stamped LC 14 on the casings. me |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 6:47:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As I said above, somebody correct me if I am wrong, it all or most come from the Lake City Ammo Plant by Independence, MO. Lake City (LC) makes all sorts of different ammo for the military. Some rumor that the American Eagle XM193 is military rejects. That has never been verified. Several MOHTF guys work or worked there and said that wasn't true. I'll take their word for it. I've never had a problem with either. Federal and American Eagle XM193 is the only thing I shoot. Never got into the M855 thing and don't shoot cheap ammo. If you open a box of Federal XM193 or American Eagle XM193, they are both marked LC and a number (12 for 2012, 13 for 2013, 14 for 2014). Another crazy symbol on them too, probably for month or lot. I just opened the bulk box I just got (just to make sure I'm not losing my mind). They are stamped LC 14 on the casings. me Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So PSA ordered XM193 but the vender shipper American Eagle? That's Karma. They said it was the same quality.... are they not the same quality? I have always thought American eagle was lower end but everyone else feels they are the same. Just wanted the forums opinion. As I said above, somebody correct me if I am wrong, it all or most come from the Lake City Ammo Plant by Independence, MO. Lake City (LC) makes all sorts of different ammo for the military. Some rumor that the American Eagle XM193 is military rejects. That has never been verified. Several MOHTF guys work or worked there and said that wasn't true. I'll take their word for it. I've never had a problem with either. Federal and American Eagle XM193 is the only thing I shoot. Never got into the M855 thing and don't shoot cheap ammo. If you open a box of Federal XM193 or American Eagle XM193, they are both marked LC and a number (12 for 2012, 13 for 2013, 14 for 2014). Another crazy symbol on them too, probably for month or lot. I just opened the bulk box I just got (just to make sure I'm not losing my mind). They are stamped LC 14 on the casings. me doesnt the "x" in xm193 denote military rejects? |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 6:58:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Only thing I have ever found was the "X" designates only that it was not sold to the government.
ETA: Please, if anybodyelse knows something different... please post. me |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 7:13:36 PM EDT
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Only thing I have ever found was the "X" designates only that it was not sold to the government. ETA: Please, if anybodyelse knows something different... please post. me You will never get a straight answer. The obvious question is why does the US Military even need M193 spec ammo anymore? Until about 2006 I would have said they need a limited quantity of M193 for those few national guard units still using the 1:12 M16A1. But by this point I think everyone has transitioned to the 1:7 M16A2/A3/A4 or M4 which use M855. There isnt a military need for quantities of M193 that would explain XM193 being rejects. so I believe XM193 is commercial ammo produced for commercial sale. That said the lot to lot differences can be dramatic in quality control. Some lots will be primer and case mouth sealed with pristine brass then i'll get some in my next order with no case mouth sealant and dented and dinged brass. |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 8:10:56 PM EDT
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You will never get a straight answer. The obvious question is why does the US Military even need M193 spec ammo anymore? Until about 2006 I would have said they need a limited quantity of M193 for those few national guard units still using the 1:12 M16A1. But by this point I think everyone has transitioned to the 1:7 M16A2/A3/A4 or M4 which use M855. There isnt a military need for quantities of M193 that would explain XM193 being rejects. so I believe XM193 is commercial ammo produced for commercial sale. That said the lot to lot differences can be dramatic in quality control. Some lots will be primer and case mouth sealed with pristine brass then i'll get some in my next order with no case mouth sealant and dented and dinged brass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only thing I have ever found was the "X" designates only that it was not sold to the government. ETA: Please, if anybodyelse knows something different... please post. me You will never get a straight answer. The obvious question is why does the US Military even need M193 spec ammo anymore? Until about 2006 I would have said they need a limited quantity of M193 for those few national guard units still using the 1:12 M16A1. But by this point I think everyone has transitioned to the 1:7 M16A2/A3/A4 or M4 which use M855. There isnt a military need for quantities of M193 that would explain XM193 being rejects. so I believe XM193 is commercial ammo produced for commercial sale. That said the lot to lot differences can be dramatic in quality control. Some lots will be primer and case mouth sealed with pristine brass then i'll get some in my next order with no case mouth sealant and dented and dinged brass. Agreed, probably never will get the straight answer. Now, they probably just kept it with the XM193 designation for civilian production. Unless they make it for some Fed., State, Metro Police Agencies or for training as a cheaper training alternative. Also totally agreed on QC aspects. I've never had any problems... but have heard problems in the past, but that has been several years ago. Everything made can have bad batches. I've had a bulk case that had rounds had some dings and a few rounds that appeared to pressed too far in. I didn't measure them, just didn't use them. Not worth it. I load most my rounds onto stripper clips, so I pretty much look at every round. Also, just a note... Make sure if you buy ammo from a gun show or somewhere else than a reputable seller, just because it is in an ammo can, on stripper clips, boxed and in bandoleers... that it is factory and not reloads that someone made. This happens, rounds fail, and people are all mad and blame the manufacture. me |
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Posted: 9/1/2014 11:48:44 PM EDT
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I just got the email about the substitution today. I am okay with the 20 round boxes over the bulk pack, I am just disappointed it took them this long to get back to me about it. I ordered the ammo on 8/22 and now it looks like the earliest it will ship is tomorrow. This is really just an annoyance more than anything. I am not needing the ammo for anything soon (or else I would not have ordered from PSA) but PSA not knowing what they have/don't have is not confidence inspiring. Oh well, in the big scheme of things this is not a deal breaker, but it does nothing to enhance PSA's somewhat dodgy reputation for reliability and transparency. Hmm....I got the same email today, although my ammo already shipped and according to UPS, will be delivered tomorrow. 27lbs of something..... |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:11:24 AM EDT
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Took the subs and email below for those who are wondering.
Dear Valued PSA Customer: Thank you for placing an order with Palmetto State Armory! In order to serve our customers' needs better, we recently upgraded our shipping and inventory systems. We are currently working on resolving some inventory issues that resulted from these system upgrades. Unfortunately, XM193BL 1000rd Bulk (SKU: 6337) is out of stock, but we can substitute the following item: Federal 5.56x45mm NATO 55gr FMJ BT 20rds XM193 (SKU: 9038). This is the same product, it is just a 20rd pack instead of 1000rd bulk pack. Alternatively, we can refund your money in full for the cost of this item. Please let us know which option would work best for you. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and appreciate your bearing with us during this transition! Thank you, |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Update
I received an email today stating that they will get the case (20 round box version) shipped out "right away". Good news as far as I am concerned. A little communication goes a long way with me. Thanks PSA.
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Posted: 9/2/2014 3:46:19 PM EDT
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Right away lol I bet
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Posted: 9/2/2014 5:16:49 PM EDT
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ordered Thursday, got a "package ready for ups" notice with tracking Friday. it is still not in UPS' possession.........
keeping my fingers crossed that they actually ship it to the correct address this time 
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:18:34 PM EDT
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I ordered mine August 22 fri, I didn't get a substitution email. Already shipped out. Does That mean I'm going to get the federal bulk pack or did they
Not have the federal bulk packs to begin with? I should be Receiving mine this Thursday . I guess I don't mind but would prefer the federal instead of the American eagle. |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 10:31:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:13:18 PM EDT
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I guess I don't mind but would prefer the federal instead of the American eagle. Isn't it the same ammo? If so, why is a Federal package better than an American Eagle package? I've always used federal and have no problems. it's the same by federal but I "heard" that the AE xm193 is the reject of the rejects (although it's still good, the military just has specific Specs) Some report that they have more failure to feed Failures with the AE vs the federal. But it's what I've heard and don't have really have extensive Testing with AE |
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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:55:23 PM EDT
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Look at the discussion in the GD forum. This issue was probably discussed there in recent days.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 10:18:37 PM EDT
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Another update:
My ammo has shipped as of today and UPS shows a scheduled delivery of Monday 9/8. It is coming in two boxes, each a bit over 14 lbs. Pretty quick turnaround considering the situation (nafu). Looking forward to heating up my new carbine next week! |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 9:39:56 PM EDT
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I ordered mine within an hour of the sale starting. Got an email saying they were out of stock and wanted to ship American eagle m193. Called them up and the guy told me that federal never sent them the 1000 round cases but cases of 20 rd AM ammo. I dont think anyone will get this ammo. Ha. My bulk pack arrived last week. |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 10:23:04 PM EDT
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I got my 1k case today, an the brass looks a little rough IMO. It's got little black spots all over it, but I guess it's normal.
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