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Posted: 4/14/2017 2:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Be happy to sell it to you. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 2:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Good points and thanks for the ideas. I had used a different spacer to get the sensor closer to the flight path. I did clean the barrel, but sparingly so it would copper up a bit. I have some ELDs coming today, so it's back to the range tomorrow afternoon to test them. When I do, I'll run the tests with the M3 again and back to the longer spacing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By sommere54:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, something's not right, barrels don't slow down. I may have an issue with the M3. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/MVs-186599.jpg Lot number variations on the ammo? ETA: barrel cleaning between outings? |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 3:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ziarifleman:
Cleaning a barrel can slow it down. 
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Posted: 4/14/2017 4:36:59 PM EDT
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I just received my shipping notice.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 4:43:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Here's a picture of the upper / chamber area after 75rds. No real reason, just because.
ETA - Cleaned up easily using the TW25B grease. I coated it with the ALG Go-Juice and will see if cleanup is as easy. 
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Posted: 4/14/2017 5:55:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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My extra Spuhr screws arrived today along with some of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms Hopefully I can shoot a bit after the steel challenge tomorrow and see how they perform.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
My extra Spuhr screws arrived today along with some of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms Hopefully I can shot a bit after the steel challenge tomorrow and see how they perform. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4394-1-187360.jpg |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 6:25:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
I liked the Hornady 130 factory ammo a lot in mine I ordered 2 more cases. Need to get going on my handloads here soon as well. I think 130 class projectiles will be optimum for velocity and performance with these rifles. I would like to see a report from one of the short barrel guns also. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rugerdog:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
My extra Spuhr screws arrived today along with some of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms Hopefully I can shot a bit after the steel challenge tomorrow and see how they perform. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4394-1-187360.jpg Keep the thread going - post some of your range reports, set-ups, loads! Please...pretty please...pretty please with whipped cream...pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:03:22 AM EDT
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Probably will only be shooting the 9mm and 45ACP this weekend with the holiday and too much stuff going on to make it to the rifle range.
Will be ordering the Redding competion dies and bushings today to move a little closer reloading. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 9:15:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I just received my shipping notice. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/523157-187311.jpg |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 4:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sommere54:
Do us a favor and do a simple side-by-side comparison/test between the Magnetospeed and the LabRadar before you get rid of one or the other, please. If I did not already have the magneto and was buying a chronograph today, I would get the labradar for the versatility and convenience alone. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 5:15:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
My extra Spuhr screws arrived today along with some of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms Hopefully I can shot a bit after the steel challenge tomorrow and see how they perform. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4394-1-187360.jpg |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 5:24:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sommere54:
Do us a favor and do a simple side-by-side comparison/test between the Magnetospeed and the LabRadar before you get rid of one or the other, please. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 5:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
I am curious about this ammo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
My extra Spuhr screws arrived today along with some of the Hornady 130 ELD-Ms Hopefully I can shot a bit after the steel challenge tomorrow and see how they perform. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4394-1-187360.jpg |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 6:00:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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@LRRPF52
Okay, I spent 6 hours shooting steel today and then transitioned to rifle to test the just arrived Hornady ELD-Ms. I have to say these shot very well and I probably could have done better if I hadn't been out in the sun all day shooting pistol. Alright, excuses are out of the way and I say again, this stuff shot well. First 5-shots with Hornady ELD-Ms, unsuppressed, with the M3 attached: 
I only brought two boxes of ELDs with me so I shot five more to check MVs and then transitioned to the MOA Challenge. IWLA range, Stafford, VA, 100 yards, shot suppressed with the TQ (adjusting elevation a couple of times along the way). There is a box of FGMM on the table for MV testing, but this was with the Hornady. I'll post MVs once I get them in the database: 
Ejecting right at 3 O'clock: 
The MOA target: 
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:01:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Updates to the MVs. I took out the Apr 13th data. Here's three data point showing the barrel speeding up with the Prime and FGMM. The Hornady had some good MVs also.
I'm down on ammo and may not get as much range time as I'd like in future, so, to keep the thread going we need some other folks with 260s to do some shootin'. 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:15:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info, the hornady is affordable compared to the prime so looks like a good option.
I'd love to help shoot you and gather data, but larue doesn't seem to want to sell the sparrels to the rest of us. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:27:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
Thanks for the info, the hornady is affordable compared to the prime so looks like a good option. I'd love to help shoot you and gather data, but larue doesn't seem to want to sell the sparrels to the rest of us. 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:55:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Hopefully sparrels will be released soon. There are quite a few .260 rifles out in the wild and I hope those folks can get out a run 'em a bit.  ). Waiting on some Prime and a case of Hornady 130 gr ELD. Glad to see the Hornady is shooting well because it is more affordable.
Has anybody found the upper and lower of their .260 more difficult to separate than their other LaRue rifles? I tried putting them together with a differen lower and upper and they were both (.260 upper and lower) difficult with the other LaRue upper and lower. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:58:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Updates to the MVs. I took out the Apr 13th data. Here's three data point showing the barrel speeding up with the Prime and FGMM. The Hornady had some good MVs also. I'm down on ammo and may not get as much range time as I'd like in future, so, to keep the thread going we need some other folks with 260s to do some shootin'. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/260-Chrono-April-17-V2-188163.jpg |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 11:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
I am out of .260 ammo (did not get any in my swag box ). Waiting on some Prime and a case of Hornady 130 gr ELD. Glad to see the Hornady is shooting well because it is more affordable.
Has anybody found the upper and lower of their .260 more difficult to separate than their other LaRue rifles? I tried putting them together with a differen lower and upper and they were both (.260 upper and lower) difficult with the other LaRue upper and lower. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:19:33 AM EDT
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Anyone shot any hornady at 129 gr sst super performance thinking of ordering a case of that and eld to see how they compare.
Looking for a hunting bullet not a paper puncher. Any ideas? Pete |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:04:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
I am out of .260 ammo (did not get any in my swag box ). Waiting on some Prime and a case of Hornady 130 gr ELD. Glad to see the Hornady is shooting well because it is more affordable.
Has anybody found the upper and lower of their .260 more difficult to separate than their other LaRue rifles? I tried putting them together with a differen lower and upper and they were both (.260 upper and lower) difficult with the other LaRue upper and lower. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fr8dog:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Hopefully sparrels will be released soon. There are quite a few .260 rifles out in the wild and I hope those folks can get out a run 'em a bit. ). Waiting on some Prime and a case of Hornady 130 gr ELD. Glad to see the Hornady is shooting well because it is more affordable.
Has anybody found the upper and lower of their .260 more difficult to separate than their other LaRue rifles? I tried putting them together with a differen lower and upper and they were both (.260 upper and lower) difficult with the other LaRue upper and lower. Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
Updates to the MVs. I took out the Apr 13th data. Here's three data point showing the barrel speeding up with the Prime and FGMM. The Hornady had some good MVs also. I'm down on ammo and may not get as much range time as I'd like in future, so, to keep the thread going we need some other folks with 260s to do some shootin'. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/260-Chrono-April-17-V2-188163.jpg Temp Effect on Ammunition Originally Posted By icecold1:
Anyone shot any hornady at 129 gr sst super performance thinking of ordering a case of that and eld to see how they compare. Looking for a hunting bullet not a paper puncher. Any ideas? Pete |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:32:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Absolutely, my 260 is very tight. Good point, thanks! I have no idea what powder Hornady uses and what sort of temperature sensitivity it has. Temp Effect on Ammunition I only have rather anecdotal evidence in that the SST super performance didn’t do too well in my LaRue tOBR in 5.56, it was shooting about 1.5MOA for me. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:46:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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The range opened back up yesterday at 3pm (after the steel challenge) and I was lucky enough to have an open range for about an hour. Two guys showed up, one shooting a German Mauser High Tower sniper (replica) and a Park Police SWAT guy putting some rugger 10/22 rounds out with his two small kids. The .260 always gets their attention and the P/P guy stopped by and we chatted. He said his department evaluated LaRue rifles for their precision engagement folks, but they ended up going LWRC. He had no idea why they made the choice they did, but he did say he liked the build quality and feel of the LaRue's. I saved the last round for him (wish I had more) so at least he had the .260 experience!
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:25:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I saved the last round for him (wish I had more) so at least he had the .260 experience! 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:44:29 AM EDT
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Just wanted to say good thread D3.
You're making the itch for a 260 tOBR get worse... and you're making me want to buy some of those reloading gizmos... and I've been looking at a Lab Radar for a while now, but have not pulled the proverbial trigger... ...living vicariously through a brother for the time being!
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Posted: 4/17/2017 12:43:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mabuz:
Just wanted to say good thread D3. You're making the itch for a 260 tOBR get worse... and you're making me want to buy some of those reloading gizmos... and I've been looking at a Lab Radar for a while now, but have not pulled the proverbial trigger... ...living vicariously through a brother for the time being!
Every once and a while the wife goes on about guns this, guns that, etc., etc. When she does, I buy gadgets instead. Speaking of "gadgets," I need a 6.5CM sparrel - Mark??????
My schedule for this week is to dig up some rounds and test the LabRadar. I know I have three boxes of ELDs, 3 boxes of FGMM and one box of Prime so that should be enough to test the M3 against the LabRadar, most likely this coming Friday. From there it's a journey in handloading while I go back to shooting the tOBR in 7.62. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 6:33:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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I got the results from the steel challenge and I picked up 20 seconds from the last go around. They had me first in production but I could have swore a guy who beat my by 9 hundredths was also shooting production. Think of what I could do with practice! I invited a friend who shoots steel, 3-gun, etc., and he smoked us clocking in at 68 seconds. He was pretty disappointed as he usually shoots < 50 seconds.
Anyways, here's the technical portion of the post, a side-by side of some fired brass. The top most is a round fired using the JP High Pressure Bolt. You can see the smaller diameter firing pin strike and no cratering due to the larger support area of the bolt face. In the middle is a round fired using the LaRue bolt with a larger firing pin / hole with cratering due to the pressure and the larger diameter firing pin hole. Lastly, at the bottom is a pulled round (basically a primer only blank) fired using the LaRue bolt and firing pin, which shows no cratering, obviously because there was no associated pressure as present when firing a full up round. Again, nothing wrong with the LaRue bolt, just killing time in the thread awaiting more people's impressions / range reports, etc. 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 6:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I got the results from the steel challenge and I picked up 20 seconds from the last go around. They had me first in production but I could have swore a guy who beat my by 9 hundredths was also shooting production. Think of what I could do with practice! I invited a friend who shoots steel, 3-gun, etc., and he smoked us clocking in at 68 seconds. He was pretty disappointed as he usually shoots < 50 seconds.
Anyways, here's the technical portion of the post, a side-by side of some fired brass. The top most is a round fired using the JP High Pressure Bolt. You can see the smaller diameter firing pin strike and no cratering due to the larger support area of the bolt face. In the middle is a round fired using the LaRue bolt with a larger firing pin / hole with cratering due to the pressure and the larger diameter firing pin hole. Lastly, at the bottom is a pulled round (basically a primer only blank) fired using the LaRue bolt, which shows no cratering, obviously because there was no associated pressure as present when firing a full up round. Again, nothing wrong with the LaRue bolt, just killing time in the thread awaiting more people's impressions / range reports, etc. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4430-1-189606.jpg It would be great to see 2900, lots of your speeds are 28xx to 2850.... I dont think Larue did the small pin because they would have a lot of people who would need a whole new bolt, that is a can of worms. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 6:52:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Id be super curioso to see what you can load rounds to safely, while using that JP bolt. The result you show looks to be a positive one. It would be great to see 2900, lots of your speeds are 28xx to 2850.... I dont think Larue did the small pin because they would have a lot of people who would need a whole new bolt, that is a can of worms.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:16:02 PM EDT
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How bad is your brass getting beaten up. Tempted to pull the plug and go the 260 route on the FDE tAR I have on order. I love the results of 260 in my AI so I'm half tempted to venture down this path.
I've gone through your whole thread now and it has me tempting the idea heavily. Not surprised the JP high pressure bolt solved some of those primer cratering issues as pierced primers in a bolt gun suck, but in a semi I can't imagine that being fun at all. Any ideas on a ball or very short cut powder for the 260 that works well in these rifles? If I go this route I want to load on the Dillon for this gun vs on my single stage like I do for my bolt guns. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I think I'll defer to you and let you load to 2900. You know what I mean. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:29:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IMSHAKN:
How bad is your brass getting beaten up. Tempted to pull the plug and go the 260 route on the FDE tAR I have on order. I love the results of 260 in my AI so I'm half tempted to venture down this path. I've gone through your whole thread now and it has me tempting the idea heavily. Not surprised the JP high pressure bolt solved some of those primer cratering issues as pierced primers in a bolt gun suck, but in a semi I can't imagine that being fun at all. Any ideas on a ball or very short cut powder for the 260 that works well in these rifles? If I go this route I want to load on the Dillon for this gun vs on my single stage like I do for my bolt guns. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:35:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IMSHAKN:
How bad is your brass getting beaten up. Tempted to pull the plug and go the 260 route on the FDE tAR I have on order. I love the results of 260 in my AI so I'm half tempted to venture down this path. I've gone through your whole thread now and it has me tempting the idea heavily. Not surprised the JP high pressure bolt solved some of those primer cratering issues as pierced primers in a bolt gun suck, but in a semi I can't imagine that being fun at all. Any ideas on a ball or very short cut powder for the 260 that works well in these rifles? If I go this route I want to load on the Dillon for this gun vs on my single stage like I do for my bolt guns.
I don't think my brass is getting beat badly at all. Given it is a gas gun, when I do reload, I'll be doing a full resizing. My first reloads will be with virgin Lapua brass and I just happen to have some Federal 201Ms on the way ( ) as well as having a hoop of CCIs.
Considering you have a FDE TAR on order, I would think it prudent to jump on that 260 barrel deal, you just can't beat it! As to powder, all I have right now is H4350 so I'll be using that to work some loads. With the number of people in this forum, someone will come along and comment. ETA - Mettee to the rescue. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
I wouldn't push right to that speed but I'd see what it would do safely. You know what I mean. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I think I'll defer to you and let you load to 2900. You know what I mean. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
With almost 10,000 views I knew someone had to be paying attention! Thanks for getting your post count up and confirming people are watching.
I don't think my brass is getting beat badly at all. Given it is a gas gun, when I do reload, I'll be doing a full resizing. My first reloads will be with virgin Lapua brass and I just happen to have some Federal 201Ms on the way ( ) as well as having a hoop of CCIs.
Considering you have a FDE TAR on order, I would think it prudent to jump on that 260 barrel deal, you just can't beat it! As to powder, all I have right now is H4350 so I'll be using that to work some loads. With the number of people in this forum, someone will come along and comment. ETA - Metee to the rescue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By IMSHAKN:
How bad is your brass getting beaten up. Tempted to pull the plug and go the 260 route on the FDE tAR I have on order. I love the results of 260 in my AI so I'm half tempted to venture down this path. I've gone through your whole thread now and it has me tempting the idea heavily. Not surprised the JP high pressure bolt solved some of those primer cratering issues as pierced primers in a bolt gun suck, but in a semi I can't imagine that being fun at all. Any ideas on a ball or very short cut powder for the 260 that works well in these rifles? If I go this route I want to load on the Dillon for this gun vs on my single stage like I do for my bolt guns.
I don't think my brass is getting beat badly at all. Given it is a gas gun, when I do reload, I'll be doing a full resizing. My first reloads will be with virgin Lapua brass and I just happen to have some Federal 201Ms on the way ( ) as well as having a hoop of CCIs.
Considering you have a FDE TAR on order, I would think it prudent to jump on that 260 barrel deal, you just can't beat it! As to powder, all I have right now is H4350 so I'll be using that to work some loads. With the number of people in this forum, someone will come along and comment. ETA - Metee to the rescue. 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:53:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bfk4lyfe]
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D3,
What bullets are you planning on using? Was thinking of using the Berger 130s after I shoot the Hornady factory stuff up. Trying to stock up on supplies in advance. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:34:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bfk4lyfe:
D3, What bullets are you planning on using? Was thinking of using the Berger 130s after I shoot the Hornady factory stuff up. Trying to stock up on supplies in advance. 
I'll probably start with these, Norma 130gr Golden Target, which is what the Primes are loaded with. I'll have to order some 130gr ELD-Ms, considering how well they shot: 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:59:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
All I know is you need a .260 - order now - you know you want it! |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:07:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I'm overachieving a bit... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4432-189750.jpg I'll probably start with these, Norma 130gr Golden Target, which is what the Primes are loaded with. I'll have to order some 130gr ELD-Ms, considering how well they shot: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4322-185997.jpg  
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Posted: 4/18/2017 6:39:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
It is so, there will be 6.5 flying from my gun Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
All I know is you need a .260 - order now - you know you want it!
Gratuitous picture of said bolt gun: 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 6:42:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Who wants to work up that many loads Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joshpuh:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I'm overachieving a bit... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4432-189750.jpg I'll probably start with these, Norma 130gr Golden Target, which is what the Primes are loaded with. I'll have to order some 130gr ELD-Ms, considering how well they shot: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG-4322-185997.jpg Seriously though, I'll start with the Normas and see how they perform and then move to some of the lighter grain bullets. The heavier are actually waiting on my 6.5CM bolt gun project so they won't be worked for some time.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 2:53:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
I know what you mean. I have two Krieger barrels sitting waiting for me to decide. One of their 5Rs is going into the bolt gun (currently a .308), and the second was ordered specifically to go into my 20" tOBR in 7.62. I'm torn because as soon as I do it, Mark will come out with a 6.5CM sparrel. If I wait, it could be another two weeks.
Gratuitous picture of said bolt gun: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/DSC_0346-1_zpscbpsk5rh.jpg I'm liking the jp stuff, might make that work. Unsure of what I'm really gonna do. The way LaRue releases stuff is super insulting and clearly they gauge things with $$ for eyes. I can't be too mad about it because it is business, but hell it's a bit much at times. Why not open it up for everyone. If your selling it at x price that means you can do that for everyone. Eta: sorry don't mean to pewp in here d3 |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 6:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Very sexy. I like it. I'm liking the jp stuff, might make that work. Unsure of what I'm really gonna do. The way LaRue releases stuff is super insulting and clearly they gauge things with $ for eyes. I can't be too mad about it because it is business, but hell it's a bit much at times. Why not open it up for everyone. If your selling it at x price that means you can do that for everyone. Eta: sorry don't mean to pewp in here d3 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mettee:
Originally Posted By Defender3:
I know what you mean. I have two Krieger barrels sitting waiting for me to decide. One of their 5Rs is going into the bolt gun (currently a .308), and the second was ordered specifically to go into my 20" tOBR in 7.62. I'm torn because as soon as I do it, Mark will come out with a 6.5CM sparrel. If I wait, it could be another two weeks.
Gratuitous picture of said bolt gun: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v501/defender3va/DSC_0346-1_zpscbpsk5rh.jpg I'm liking the jp stuff, might make that work. Unsure of what I'm really gonna do. The way LaRue releases stuff is super insulting and clearly they gauge things with $ for eyes. I can't be too mad about it because it is business, but hell it's a bit much at times. Why not open it up for everyone. If your selling it at x price that means you can do that for everyone. Eta: sorry don't mean to pewp in here d3 I also think if you're going to take over the world, you'd speed up the process a bit. With all the HK fanboi-ism with the Army and Marines, the prospect of large-scale DoD sales is decreasing. As such, Mark needs to hurry up and offer a full caliber line of sparrels, get the Siete off the drawing board or kill the project and get back into the 1911 game. Just my 2-cents and worth exactly what you paid for it. I am not an employee of LaRue Tactical, have no connection to Larue Tactical nor do I know anything about of what I'm speaking.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 7:05:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Defender3]
[#46]
Okay, back to some real science. Here are some pictures of the BCG after 55rds and lubricated with the ALG Go-Juice. I like this stuff over the TW25B grease as it appears to be "wetter" and without some of the accumulation of grit, or it could just be that I haven't fired enough rounds. I have the liquid version of the TW25B and will give that a try on the next outing to see how it performs. [/science off]
BCG after 55rds: 
Upper after 55rds: 
Upper after 75rds with the TW25B grease:
The bolt easily cleaned up just be wiping with a shop towel: 
BCG after wiping with a shop towel. 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 7:33:07 PM EDT
[#47]
Looked into the Enduron line of powders and 4451 looks the closest to my trusty 4350, but slightly smaller cut. Curious if anyone has tried to load for their 260 with a progressive and done so with reasonably low SD and ES.
Also, has anyone tried much with the 139gr Lapua Scenar's? I have a big stash of those so I was curious if anyone had played with them at all, though I suspect they will be a bit too heavy to load at a reasonable length for a semi, any thoughts? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 7:39:23 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IMSHAKN:
Looked into the Enduron line of powders and 4451 looks the closest to my trusty 4350, but slightly smaller cut. Curious if anyone has tried to load for their 260 with a progressive and done so with reasonably low SD and ES. Also, has anyone tried much with the 139gr Lapua Scenar's? I have a big stash of those so I was curious if anyone had played with them at all, though I suspect they will be a bit too heavy to load at a reasonable length for a semi, any thoughts? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 9:40:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mettee]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Defender3:
Well, there is a point of diminishing returns. It costs to buy the machines, pay for the facilities, utilities, materials and labor. Add in overhead costs, legal, etc., etc., and I could see why selling a $250 trigger for $99 isn't the best long-term strategy. Eventually, the economics catch up to you if the new people you gained as customers don't buy more stuff or upsell to higher cost items. I would think you'd pivot your strategy at some point, but that's why I'm not in sales or marketing. I also think if you're going to take over the world, you'd speed up the process a bit. With all the HK fanboi-ism with the Army and Marines, the prospect of large-scale DoD sales is decreasing. As such, Mark needs to hurry up and offer a full caliber line of sparrels, get the Siete off the drawing board or kill the project and get back into the 1911 game. Just my 2-cents and worth exactly what you paid for it. I am not an employee of LaRue Tactical, have no connection to Larue Tactical nor do I know anything about of what I'm speaking. I see the take down Tobr, I buy, because I can barrel change to alternate calibers. 2+ years ago I hear that 260 is in the works! yay! No barrel released Still.....No barrel released Then......No barrel released Wait....an entire gun for sale in 260, I already have a tobr, do I need another.... 260 uppers seen in wild, and a couple given away Still.....No barrel released Then......No barrel released Tan PredatARs get released and all the hub bub. Neat Follow on email...."great prices" 260 barrel only for guys who got a costa, a heavy tAR, etc etc. No barrels for guys who have a Tobr and took the leep of faith when they came out. and so the story goes
With sales going slow(maybe not for larue) in the industry I would think you'd want to hurry up and sell a whole bunch a 260 barrels at say $500ish |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 9:45:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jaycoux]
[#50]
I just switched over to imr 4451 in 6.5 creed. In my barrel (AI) it was slightly faster with less powder. I usually run 42.5 grains H4350 and 142 SMKs. IMR did the same job with 41.7. The accuracy was there too. It was a welcome turn of events, since my supply of 4350 is toast. I don't know how it will function in a gasser though, and I did not rum them in a progressive press. I can say that the ES was good.
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