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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:29:11 PM EDT
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You carry ammo that won't even go through a TV? Anyway, glad no one got hit.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:29:50 PM EDT
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glad you are okay. I know the feeling of thinking you are shot.
My friend and I came in from a day of hunting on some property. We were unloading everything and KABOOM. 30-06 in a trailer is real loud, he was standing right next to me. Luckily he only shot a window out. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:29:51 PM EDT
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So how did the rest of the day go?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:30:10 PM EDT
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so your buddy is gonna buy you a new TV, right? Quoted:
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Why do you both unholster and set your pistol on the table while eating? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:31:33 PM EDT
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Surprisingly they didn't! Can't explain that one because they're usually running to hide soon as they hear a gunshot. I wish, he can't afford it. He's offered but I know he can't pay for it and he's a good friend(even though he almost shot me) and I'd rather not lose a good friend over a tv set. I know, "reading is for faggots" but we didn't un-holster and set our pistols on the table while eating". We left the house to go eat and after returning home then un-holstered and sat them on the kitchen table. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:31:43 PM EDT
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you also own a pit bull................................................... n/m, not even worth going down that road  This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:31:47 PM EDT
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Yikes,
Glad your OK. I take the round out of the chamber as soon as I un-holster my CCW when I get home. Scary stuff. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:32:06 PM EDT
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But he can afford a gun?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:33:16 PM EDT
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Go buy yourself a lotto ticket...
I'm in for the rest if the story...what happened after? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:34:13 PM EDT
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So, we go eat and get back to the house and I pull my CCW gun, G-17, out and sit it on our kitchen table like always, wife does the same. Why? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:34:56 PM EDT
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Yikes, Glad your OK. I take the round out of the chamber as soon as I un-holster my CCW when I get home. Scary stuff. One of the things I like about modern wheelguns. Easy to unload and load, no setback, heavy and deliberate trigger pull. They just feel safe |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:35:48 PM EDT
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I have found that what first time shooters instinctively do is put their finger on the trigger. It is such a natural place to rest the finger, they just can't help themselves. I always start new shooters with a blue gun or even a realistic looking squirt gun. Something that has realistic look and feel (and a trigger) but something we can make mistakes with and take corrective action. Only after they can demonstrate the Four Absolutes do I move on to "real" guns. Yes, some people never make it past the blue gun stage. If they are not taking it seriously or cannot take instruction (too macho) I suggest a game of Golf instead. Sorry OP but I believe this one is on you. You assumed the role of Instructor, you created a classroom and you created the circumstances in which a "student" was able to handle a loaded firearm not under your immediate control. Glad nobody was injured...or worse. I'm glad you're ok OP. Don't ever lay your firearm down on the table in front of someone that you don't trust implicitly again. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:35:51 PM EDT
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Thank you for sharing your experience.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:35:52 PM EDT
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Why would anyone take there gun off in the house?Put gun on when you get dressed and take it of at night when go to bed.
I am glad you are OK. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:35:54 PM EDT
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Surprisingly they didn't! Can't explain that one because they're usually running to hide soon as they hear a gunshot. I wish, he can't afford it. He's offered but I know he can't pay for it and he's a good friend(even though he almost shot me) and I'd rather not lose a good friend over a tv set. I know, "reading is for faggots" but we didn't un-holster and set our pistols on the table while eating". We left the house to go eat and after returning home then un-holstered and sat them on the kitchen table. 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:36:45 PM EDT
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.
ok seriously it was just a joke...i don't want to be known as an asshole, you just made it too easy 
Glad you're ok |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:36:48 PM EDT
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:36:48 PM EDT
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criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place. And Glaser safety slugs are very much less than ideal for effectively stopping people that want to kill you... |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:37:58 PM EDT
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I think first think first is,
Go to the store and buy your dogs some treats. Their ears are probably still ringing. Plus good dogs always need treats, or atleast mine do
also have a question, why do you unholster your gun to set it down loaded? If you do not want to carry it why not take off the holster too (To protect the trigger) Especially around someone who is new to firearms. not judging just honestly curious. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:38:10 PM EDT
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I know, "reading is for faggots" but we didn't un-holster and set our pistols on the table while eating". We left the house to go eat and after returning home then un-holstered and sat them on the kitchen table. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:38:12 PM EDT
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:38:54 PM EDT
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I know, "reading is for faggots" but we didn't un-holster and set our pistols on the table while eating". We left the house to go eat and after returning home then un-holstered and sat them on the kitchen table. 
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:39:48 PM EDT
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Go buy yourself a lotto ticket... I'm in for the rest if the story...what happened after? Came home, clean everything up and then got drunk.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:40:01 PM EDT
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Not saying everyone should do this, but if my weapon is off my hip I clear it before putting it down. Even if its just a temporary. Why sre you unholstering to begin with? Glad you are all safe. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:41:10 PM EDT
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif" /> This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.<img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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you also own a pit bull................................................... n/m, not even worth going down that road I bet your TV is a Toshiba too! |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:41:14 PM EDT
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were you like this? 
- Clint |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:41:17 PM EDT
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out of
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:47:16 PM EDT
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Leave a loaded pistol unattended on a table next to new inexperienced shooters...what could possibly go wrong?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:53:50 PM EDT
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After the ND and everyone was settled down we sat down and had a discussion on what happened, why etc. He was devastated for a bit, kept saying "I almost killed my good friend". Went over that is exactly why you never pick up someone else's gun, why you never put your finger on the trigger until your ready to shoot and so on. We weren't sure whether to go shoot or not but I said lets go. Took them out to the range and had a good time, they shot quite a few pistols and a couple rifles. Wife and I kept a close eye on him the entire time and he never, not once, put his finger on a trigger again until he was ready to shoot. I think he learned a lesson that day, and so did I. Came home, clean everything up and then got drunk.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:57:24 PM EDT
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How many TV's is that now?
It seems to be the most common casualty. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:58:12 PM EDT
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You still didn't answer the question. Why did you take a loaded gun out of the holster and put it in an unsecured location? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 2:59:04 PM EDT
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I bet your TV is a Toshiba too! |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:00:31 PM EDT
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why not take the entire rig off? Holster and gun? That way gun stays holstered. Reduce the administrative handling of a loaded firearm.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:04:03 PM EDT
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After the ND and everyone was settled down we sat down and had a discussion on what happened, why etc. He was devastated for a bit, kept saying "I almost killed my good friend". Went over that is exactly why you never pick up someone else's gun, why you never put your finger on the trigger until your ready to shoot and so on. We weren't sure whether to go shoot or not but I said lets go. Took them out to the range and had a good time, they shot quite a few pistols and a couple rifles. Wife and I kept a close eye on him the entire time and he never, not once, put his finger on a trigger again until he was ready to shoot. I think he learned a lesson that day, and so did I. Came home, clean everything up and then got drunk. I'd have a hard time not beating the stupid out of him |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:04:10 PM EDT
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It will go through a rib just fine. Can't find it at the moment but couple guys tested on a beef slab with ribs and the damage was devastating. Glaser's are just fine for self defense.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgC6B5yiyQYou learned your lesson about leaving loaded guns around firearms novices, but you need to spend some time educating yourself on terminal ballistics as well. Worry more about 12in minimum penetration in gel and less about "over penetration". Any effective defense load will overpenetrate, period the end. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:05:12 PM EDT
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Friend or not.
He deserves a bitch slapping or at least slap the fuck out of him on the back of his head for that. You sure him and your wife didn't plan this?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:08:08 PM EDT
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RIP TV.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:08:10 PM EDT
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Not saying everyone should do this, but if my weapon is off my hip I clear it before putting it down. Even if its just a temporary. Why sre you unholstering to begin with? Glad you are all safe. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:08:39 PM EDT
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Glad you are OK. The only person I trust around a loaded gun is my father. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:08:47 PM EDT
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Thanks for sharing OP, that takes guts.
Here's to lessons learned. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:09:02 PM EDT
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Surprisingly they didn't! Can't explain that one because they're usually running to hide soon as they hear a gunshot. I wish, he can't afford it. He's offered but I know he can't pay for it and he's a good friend(even though he almost shot me) and I'd rather not lose a good friend over a tv set. I know, "reading is for faggots" but we didn't un-holster and set our pistols on the table while eating". We left the house to go eat and after returning home then un-holstered and sat them on the kitchen table.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:09:41 PM EDT
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Rule #5 - Never touch someone else's gun without their acknowledged permission.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:12:23 PM EDT
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why not take the entire rig off? Holster and gun? That way gun stays holstered. Reduce the administrative handling of a loaded firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
why not take the entire rig off? Holster and gun? That way gun stays holstered. Reduce the administrative handling of a loaded firearm. Quoted:
Thanks for sharing OP, that takes guts. Here's to lessons learned. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:15:23 PM EDT
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I bet your TV is a Toshiba too! Liar! Usin' that cheapass blue glasser. Seriously though, that sucks. Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more; that the Glasser didn't go through or that a prefab house will withstand a wall mounted TV that big. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:18:08 PM EDT
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Dammit.... <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80210/TV03-172219.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80210/TV03-172219.JPG</a> <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But I'll bet good money you didn't watch TV. <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif" /> <a href="https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80210/TV03-172219.JPG" target="_blank">https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80210/TV03-172219.JPG</a> <img src="http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif" /> Good job on the hand lotion and tissues nearby. Think of this as an opertunity to move on to a 4K set. TVs have gotten much cheaper than 4 years ago. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:18:20 PM EDT
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Did you get him to admit pulling the trigger?
Are everyone's ears hurting? Is he gonna pay for the tv? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:19:23 PM EDT
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Liar! Usin' that cheapass blue glasser. Seriously though, that sucks. Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more; that the Glasser didn't go through or that a prefab house will withstand a wall mounted TV that big. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:20:17 PM EDT
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Lucky you.
My good friend was killed last year in front of me by a similar incident, but at a gun range.. Sad stuff. You're really lucky. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 3:21:02 PM EDT
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The back of the tv stopped it, there is a dent back there. House isn't prefab though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Liar! Usin' that cheapass blue glasser. Seriously though, that sucks. Honestly, I don't know what surprises me more; that the Glasser didn't go through or that a prefab house will withstand a wall mounted TV that big. What did rent-a-center say about it? If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm bustin your balls man. Glad you're ok. |
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