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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:55:21 PM EDT
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Wrong. He sued and won. ""Without the ADA I never would have been able to pursue my dream of playing golf professionally," Casey says" https://www.ada.gov/fmartin.htm And still couldn't hack it. Coaching somewhere last I heard. And that doesn't change the fact that the game is played without a cart. It was opposed exactly because walking and what that adds is considered by golfers to be an essential element of the game. Golf didn't change its rules to accommodate the guy. He was forced on the game by a court. You mind sharing your handicap? Or just confirming what your level of golf experience is? |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:58:08 PM EDT
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And still couldn't hack it. Coaching somewhere last I heard. And that doesn't change the fact that the game is played without a cart. It was opposed exactly because walking and what that adds is considered by golfers to be an essential element of the game. Golf didn't change its rules to accommodate the guy. He was forced on the game by a court. You mind sharing your handicap? Or just confirming what your level of golf experience is? I play 9 hole maybe every 5 years when my friend invites me, never really cared for that game. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Wrong. He sued and won. ""Without the ADA I never would have been able to pursue my dream of playing golf professionally," Casey says" "This year, Casey qualified for the PGA Tour, and now plays alongside the greatest golfers in the world. " Funny, I don't think somebody in his physical condition will be fighting in the UFC or playing in the NFL anytime soon... https://www.ada.gov/fmartin.htm |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:01:26 PM EDT
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Earnest Hemingway?  I think if there were an opposite of golf, it might be Hemingway. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:01:45 PM EDT
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No. It is a competition however. To be a sport there must be both an element of danger and risk of loss of life, and clear objective scoring criteria for points scored by the player(s) (i.e. no judging). Unless you count getting eaten by an alligator from the water hazard as the element of danger risk of loss of life, golf is not a sport it's a competition. I think events like the high jump, long jump, 100 meter dash etc. are the epitome of a sport. Unaided physical competitions with an unambiguous winner (whoever runs faster, jumps higher etc.). Unless they have lions chasing them, I'm not sure where a risk of loss of life would come into play. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:03:06 PM EDT
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I play 9 hole maybe every 5 years when my friend invites me, never really cared for that game. your what we call a golf course terrorist , going around slowing up the course , picking up other peoples balls because you thought it was yours and so on . |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:04:18 PM EDT
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Casey does not play on the tour , I don't think he even played two events since the ruling . So what. The fact of the matter is that the guy can compete at the professional level despite a debilitating disorder. That's not to disparage those with physical limitations, rather as a bellwether that maybe this game doesn't require a huge level of physical exertion. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:04:27 PM EDT
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How is this even a question......
Some of you fuckers couldn't walk a course, much less train enough to become competitive at ANY level. Flame away hackers.. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:04:42 PM EDT
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It is definitely a sport.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:04:52 PM EDT
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your what we call a golf course terrorist , going around slowing up the course , picking up other peoples balls because you thought it was yours and so on . Who cares? It's a stupid game anyway. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:05:38 PM EDT
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I play 9 hole maybe every 5 years when my friend invites me, never really cared for that game. Cool. That decreases the chance that real golfers will have to deal with you on the course. Win win for everyone. By the way, I think in my first post I called it both a game and sport.  My broad definitions, and all that.
Thanks again for starting this thread and giving us a chance to argue this. Though, it's not nearly inflammatory enough for normal GD standards. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:07:58 PM EDT
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Cool. That decreases the chance that real golfers will have to deal with you on the course. Win win for everyone. By the way, I think in my first post I called it both a game and sport. My broad definitions, and all that.
Thanks again for starting this thread and giving us a chance to argue this. Though, it's not nearly inflammatory enough for normal GD standards. What, pray tell, is a real golfer? Does one have to make money off of it to be a "real golfer"? I played the stupid game, and I am real, ergo, real golfer. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:08:43 PM EDT
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As performance of playing an oboe is subjective, golf is not and as it also requires physical effort and coordination it is a sport.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:09:30 PM EDT
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As performance of playing an oboe is subjective, golf is not and as it also requires physical effort and coordination it is a sport. What about chess? That requires physical effort and coordination, and is not subjective... |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:12:08 PM EDT
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This thread is fucking stupid and OP should quit drinking,Or dosing
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:14:41 PM EDT
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What, pray tell, is a real golfer? Does one have to make money off of it to be a "real golfer"? I played the stupid game, and I am real, ergo, real golfer. It's hard to quantify, but I know it when I see it. How about that? I think you don't play often enough to count as a real golfer. Dude....you admit that you don't like the sport (or game), do not play regularly, and certainly don't care about getting any better at it. I think it's fair to say that you don't even consider yourself a golfer. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:15:25 PM EDT
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Not a sport. it's a GAME just like football, baseball, bassetball, and the rest of the GAMES.
there are only three sports. Shooting sports )which include hunting), Fishing, and the Martial Arts (including boxing, and the other hand to hand as well as swords and knives). My opinion and you're welcome to it. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:15:31 PM EDT
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This thread is fucking stupid and OP should quit drinking,Or dosing |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:17:17 PM EDT
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No, chess does not require physical effort. A wheelchair bound quadriplegic could tell Siri the moves and play.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:18:05 PM EDT
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Now this was a sport. Damn water hazards. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/338038/IMG-0423-149655.JPG The one I went to had a windmill, right in the middle of a fairway. Dang windmill. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:19:59 PM EDT
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No, chess does not require physical effort. A wheelchair bound quadriplegic could tell Siri the moves and play. It is some physical effort. You do have to physically move the pieces. It's not MUCH physical effort, which is my whole point about golf. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:25:43 PM EDT
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So what. The fact of the matter is that the guy can compete at the professional level despite a debilitating disorder. That's not to disparage those with physical limitations, rather as a bellwether that maybe this game doesn't require a huge level of physical exertion. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:30:54 PM EDT
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I hate golf but sadly it is a sport by any widely accepted definition of a sport.
it s kind of a gay sport for unathletic wealthy people and women. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:35:24 PM EDT
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No, competitive shooting is just high velocity darts. ETA: I am not talking about things like biathlon, which obviously fulfills my 2 requirements. My requirements to be a sport: 1) Has a non-subjective way of determining the winner. This rules out ice dancing, as the only way to win is at the whim of a panel of judges. 2) Requires a high level of physical exertion. Basically, if a person claiming Social Security can compete with 23 year olds, it's not a sport (sorry, golf). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is competitive shooting a sport? How you feel about one will directly correlate to how you feel about the other... No, competitive shooting is just high velocity darts. ETA: I am not talking about things like biathlon, which obviously fulfills my 2 requirements. My requirements to be a sport: 1) Has a non-subjective way of determining the winner. This rules out ice dancing, as the only way to win is at the whim of a panel of judges. 2) Requires a high level of physical exertion. Basically, if a person claiming Social Security can compete with 23 year olds, it's not a sport (sorry, golf). 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:36:07 PM EDT
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There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.Ernest Hemingway Came here to post this. 
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:36:33 PM EDT
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I hate golf but sadly it is a sport by any widely accepted definition of a sport. it s kind of a gay sport for unathletic wealthy people and women. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:37:40 PM EDT
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OP aren't you the guy that posts in threads that you shot your neighbors cat for walking on your car? Yes Good shoot, better than it getting caught in the fan when you start it on a cold day |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:32:43 PM EDT
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So according to this thread, the definition depends on a certain amount of skill & co-ordination, exertion and the level & duration of that exertion. It apparently also depends on the level at which it is being played, how it is played (with or without beer) and maybe even who is playing.
Those who say that a sport must contain danger and risk loss of life or injury or it isn’t a sport because you can drink doing it are being ridiculous. Like I said in my other post and it’s just my opinion, for the guys who just play on weekends with their buddies, it’s more of a game to them. For those who have taken the time achieve a higher level of success or make a living at it, it’s a sport. Pressure: should a certain amount of pressure be a factor in the definition? Anybody here ever had to make a five foot putt for a few hundred bucks or a few thousand (especially if it’s your own money)? It can be enough to make you shake & puke. Now multiply that pressure by a factor of a hundred for a tour player. The difference between a successful touring pro and a guy who shoots 75 every week on his local course is huge. Somebody mentioned that golf pros arrive 3 hours early each day to practice and then walk 18 holes for 4 days straight followed by another practice session after each round. They then travel on Monday & Tuesday and do it all over again at the next stop. The preparation to accomplish that and play at that level is phenomenal. Something else about pro golf, it’s not a team thing. You have to qualify and play well or you don’t eat. You also have to maintain a certain level of play every year to stay on tour – more pressure. For those who have never played a single round and who call golf a stupid or gay game, why so flippant and disrespectful? What sports have you played? Are you good at anything? Go try it or take a lesson or two and get back to me on how easy it is. Bottom line – it’s a sport guys. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:35:51 PM EDT
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has even less exertion than baseball, which is the game/sport watershed.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:36:44 PM EDT
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I guess. I am just glad the whole golf craze finally petered out. There for awhile, every Tom, Dick, and Harry fancied himself a golf pro. Shit was laughable.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:47:15 PM EDT
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People here are retards about golf, with most being toolbags talking about the "waste of a good shooting range" types.
Obviously many here have never played, and don't appreciate the amount of hand eye coordination and skill required to play well. And they probably have that image of 70s era golfers in their minds.. today's tour pros are awesome athletes and they can do things with a golf ball that are amazing. The reason they make it look so easy on TV is because they are that damn good. So yes it's a sport, requiring physical exertion and fitness to play at a tour level, along with mental toughness and an extraordinary amount of practice, skill and talent. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:56:54 PM EDT
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OP seems angry that the world doesn't recognize his genius.
That's my take on it, at least.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 5:59:52 PM EDT
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It's like shooting, but not as cool.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 6:00:29 PM EDT
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So according to this thread, the definition depends on a certain amount of skill & co-ordination, exertion and the level & duration of that exertion. It apparently also depends on the level at which it is being played, how it is played (with or without beer) and maybe even who is playing. Those who say that a sport must contain danger and risk loss of life or injury or it isn’t a sport because you can drink doing it are being ridiculous. Like I said in my other post and it’s just my opinion, for the guys who just play on weekends with their buddies, it’s more of a game to them. For those who have taken the time achieve a higher level of success or make a living at it, it’s a sport. Pressure: should a certain amount of pressure be a factor in the definition? Anybody here ever had to make a five foot putt for a few hundred bucks or a few thousand (especially if it’s your own money)? It can be enough to make you shake & puke. Now multiply that pressure by a factor of a hundred for a tour player. The difference between a successful touring pro and a guy who shoots 75 every week on his local course is huge. Somebody mentioned that golf pros arrive 3 hours early each day to practice and then walk 18 holes for 4 days straight followed by another practice session after each round. They then travel on Monday & Tuesday and do it all over again at the next stop. The preparation to accomplish that and play at that level is phenomenal. Something else about pro golf, it’s not a team thing. You have to qualify and play well or you don’t eat. You also have to maintain a certain level of play every year to stay on tour – more pressure. For those who have never played a single round and who call golf a stupid or gay game, why so flippant and disrespectful? What sports have you played? Are you good at anything? Go try it or take a lesson or two and get back to me on how easy it is. Bottom line – it’s a sport guys.  Attached FileEnd thread. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 6:02:00 PM EDT
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So what. The fact of the matter is that the guy can compete at the professional level despite a debilitating disorder. That's not to disparage those with physical limitations, rather as a bellwether that maybe this game doesn't require a huge level of physical exertion. He should give women's tour a try, or sue them. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:19:34 PM EDT
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So according to this thread, the definition depends on a certain amount of skill & co-ordination, exertion and the level & duration of that exertion. It apparently also depends on the level at which it is being played, how it is played (with or without beer) and maybe even who is playing. Those who say that a sport must contain danger and risk loss of life or injury or it isn’t a sport because you can drink doing it are being ridiculous. Like I said in my other post and it’s just my opinion, for the guys who just play on weekends with their buddies, it’s more of a game to them. For those who have taken the time achieve a higher level of success or make a living at it, it’s a sport. Pressure: should a certain amount of pressure be a factor in the definition? Anybody here ever had to make a five foot putt for a few hundred bucks or a few thousand (especially if it’s your own money)? It can be enough to make you shake & puke. Now multiply that pressure by a factor of a hundred for a tour player. The difference between a successful touring pro and a guy who shoots 75 every week on his local course is huge. Somebody mentioned that golf pros arrive 3 hours early each day to practice and then walk 18 holes for 4 days straight followed by another practice session after each round. They then travel on Monday & Tuesday and do it all over again at the next stop. The preparation to accomplish that and play at that level is phenomenal. Something else about pro golf, it’s not a team thing. You have to qualify and play well or you don’t eat. You also have to maintain a certain level of play every year to stay on tour – more pressure. For those who have never played a single round and who call golf a stupid or gay game, why so flippant and disrespectful? What sports have you played? Are you good at anything? Go try it or take a lesson or two and get back to me on how easy it is. Bottom line – it’s a sport guys. That's awful lot of typing just to be wrong. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:47:04 PM EDT
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op is mad,
and in before familiar |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 8:49:45 PM EDT
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I haven't played a round of golf in 15 years. I see it more as playing fetch with yourself rather than a sport, you hit the ball then go find it then repeat.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:02:49 PM EDT
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That's awful lot of typing just to be wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So according to this thread, the definition depends on a certain amount of skill & co-ordination, exertion and the level & duration of that exertion. It apparently also depends on the level at which it is being played, how it is played (with or without beer) and maybe even who is playing. Those who say that a sport must contain danger and risk loss of life or injury or it isn’t a sport because you can drink doing it are being ridiculous. Like I said in my other post and it’s just my opinion, for the guys who just play on weekends with their buddies, it’s more of a game to them. For those who have taken the time achieve a higher level of success or make a living at it, it’s a sport. Pressure: should a certain amount of pressure be a factor in the definition? Anybody here ever had to make a five foot putt for a few hundred bucks or a few thousand (especially if it’s your own money)? It can be enough to make you shake & puke. Now multiply that pressure by a factor of a hundred for a tour player. The difference between a successful touring pro and a guy who shoots 75 every week on his local course is huge. Somebody mentioned that golf pros arrive 3 hours early each day to practice and then walk 18 holes for 4 days straight followed by another practice session after each round. They then travel on Monday & Tuesday and do it all over again at the next stop. The preparation to accomplish that and play at that level is phenomenal. Something else about pro golf, it’s not a team thing. You have to qualify and play well or you don’t eat. You also have to maintain a certain level of play every year to stay on tour – more pressure. For those who have never played a single round and who call golf a stupid or gay game, why so flippant and disrespectful? What sports have you played? Are you good at anything? Go try it or take a lesson or two and get back to me on how easy it is. Bottom line – it’s a sport guys. That's awful lot of typing just to be wrong. I'm curious. Which paragraph do you have an issue with? Or do you just disagree with my personal conclusion? Anyone can play Monopoly, that's a "game". |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:03:03 PM EDT
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It's a sport that takes a lot of talent and practice.
I've seen many kids get their tour dreams crushed from injuries as well. I bet 87% of the posters saying it isn't couldn't walk 18 holes, carrying a bag in the summer, without an ambulance being called. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:05:50 PM EDT
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All I want to say is let faster players play through.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:09:53 PM EDT
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Game yes.
Sport no. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:14:19 PM EDT
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I was winded after briskly walking 9 on Friday
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:16:10 PM EDT
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Golf is a GAME.
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” Ernest Hemingway |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:27:38 PM EDT
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Never tried it, and watching on TV puts me to sleep even faster than watching football on Thanksgiving.
I think it would be much more interesting if you were allowed to smack the other golfers with your clubs once in a while...slow guys ahead of you? Pull out your custom made Duffer Driver and get busy! |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:35:51 PM EDT
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People here are retards about golf, with most being toolbags talking about the "waste of a good shooting range" types. Obviously many here have never played, and don't appreciate the amount of hand eye coordination and skill required to play well. And they probably have that image of 70s era golfers in their minds.. today's tour pros are awesome athletes and they can do things with a golf ball that are amazing. The reason they make it look so easy on TV is because they are that damn good. So yes it's a sport, requiring physical exertion and fitness to play at a tour level, along with mental toughness and an extraordinary amount of practice, skill and talent. Your right. I invite any person on this thread to hit 100 practice balls in 95 degree heat and then play 18 holes at Bethpage State Park's Black Course from the tips. Also, walking the course carrying his or her own golf clubs. The average hacker will not even finish the round or shot a score of 130. That person's definition of a sport will change quick after that. Oh and I forgot. Do that 4 days in a row. Fat drunks playing on the weekend from the old man white tees in a cart is not real golf. The courses they are playing are flat with wide open fairways and slow ass greens. Not even near what a championship course should be. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:42:36 PM EDT
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Ernest Hemingway has spoken...
sheep are numerous 'round here |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:44:10 PM EDT
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Take it from a guy who played on the HS golf team, league for a few years, and one time avid golfer, GOLF IS GAY AND a waste of time!
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:44:43 PM EDT
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No, competitive shooting is just high velocity darts. ETA: I am not talking about things like biathlon, which obviously fulfills my 2 requirements. My requirements to be a sport: 1) Has a non-subjective way of determining the winner. This rules out ice dancing, as the only way to win is at the whim of a panel of judges. 2) Requires a high level of physical exertion. Basically, if a person claiming Social Security can compete with 23 year olds, it's not a sport (sorry, golf). Your 2nd definition is as faulty as your judgement in other areas. Golf is very much a sport. |
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:45:59 PM EDT
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hell no. Waste of a perfectly good shooting range with a park for the kids to play in is what it is.
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