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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:50:10 PM EDT
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Haha, wait till you work in a right to work state and find out just how useless whistleblower protection is thanks to recent court decisions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you are saying that your supervisor is RETALIATING against you after you voiced your opposition to safety issues? These wouldn't happen to be OSHA based safety issues? If only there was an OSHA office for something like that. Haha, wait till you work in a right to work state and find out just how useless whistleblower protection is thanks to recent court decisions. I have extensive experience with various anti-retaliation statutes in such a state. 
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:53:26 PM EDT
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here s how I always like to handle this type of situation... play the long game. be super cool to him, kill him with kindness invite him out to a few times then invite him to play a sport with you start with golf or tennis. then invite him to play basketball or soccer or something and absolutely level him but make it look like it was part of the sport.
a soccer tackle could easily be turned into a shin stomp or perhaps you accidentally elbow him in the face the same goes for basketball. that blocked shot attempt could easily become swatting him in the face with the palm of your hand or an elbow to the ribs or clavical when going for a rebound. that being said if there is a 0% chance you could get him to participate in a sport with you then you re going to need a different plan... but let me tell you nothing like playing the long game and crushing someone while playing a sport...sports are great for that because you know people get hurt while playing sports, it s part of the game you could try to arrange a corporate paintball outting and get creative from there |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:54:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've been at this company for about 2 years now. I get along with everyone and do a good job. Our director recently quit. In comes new interim director. He's an extremely passive aggressive construction project engineer. I work safety. I call him out on a few unsafe things, very professionally, and he takes it extremely personally. Guy is a libtard that does not wear the pants in his family. His wife probably benches more than him and has resting bitch face. Now he's spreading rumors through the company about me, making it very personal - calling me a narcissist to others, etc.. He has ruined my relationship with my professional mentor, a VP at the company. We got the new director today. Interim bitch proceeds to tell him all these made up things about me and personally attacks me on the guys first day. This was behind closed doors. He smiles at me in the hallway, shakes my hand and pretends everything is okay but behind the door he's a pussy bitch backstabbing passive aggressive piece of shit. Need some clever payback ideas. I don't want to go to jail or be fired so I may need to resort to guerrilla under-the-radar tactics like this fuck stick. On the other hand, if you are the type to need payback because someone says something about you, I am guessing that there is also more to the story than you are telling. Just a guess. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:56:16 PM EDT
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Clearly a super wedgey in the restroom is in order.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:56:30 PM EDT
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Start pumping resumes. Someone has to leave--you or him. This right here. Someone's number is up. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:59:01 PM EDT
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In all seriousness it sounds like you need to have a closed door session of your own with the new head honcho. Be sure to mention you're on the verge of filing a harassment/hostile work environment claim with your HR department. You need to tackle this head on and you need to do it SOON. Leave the guerilla tactics to the movies, in real life they always backfire. I'll save myself the typing. This. Make sure to start writing things down too. When you go to HR though, tell them you want a recap of the actions taken and you want it soon. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 6:59:56 PM EDT
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btw here s what you shouldn't do... an ex army ranger friend of mine poisoned one of commanding officer with superlax or something and then bragged about it to people. he was kicked out of the army and lucky he didnt face any charges.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:00:39 PM EDT
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Tape a rubber snake to the receiver of his desk phone, then call it.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:01:09 PM EDT
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Just make sure you don't get tossed from the castle walls first............
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Thanks. I appreciate this advice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just do a good job, OP. If you're not in a position to finish somebody off, wait until you are. No sense in escalating a fight you don't control all the variables for. Don't get me wrong, OP, I'm all about tossing enemies off the ramparts. You gotta be there first. Thanks. I appreciate this advice. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:02:35 PM EDT
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This is fucking epic.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT...get your colleagues to make statements about his behavior. Find out his work email address and from a third party computer register him at gay porn sites, use his cell and email to place ads for brony gay sex on craigslist and other sites. Pay a gay male stripper to come to work and make a scene as in lovers spat with him... This is fucking epic. I'd say that if you think something is wrong to be done to you, you probably are in the wrong doing it to someone else. Also, if you must do this, do it from a public library or something. Keep your IP addresses off of it
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:07:06 PM EDT
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Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My guess is passive aggressive Dick is probably scared to death of conflict also. Call him out on his shit talking in front of coworkers and watch him squirm. Be forceful in pressing him about what he has said but keep it professional. Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. 1 search for his name on the cuck porn section of redtube.com. 2 post stills of him tounging some black dudes load out his wife's ass 3 ???????????? 4 profit. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:10:17 PM EDT
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How do you know hes talking shit about you?
If people are telling you he his, you have enough to go to HR. I don't know. I work construction and things get handled differently. There is no HR on the jobsite.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:10:29 PM EDT
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Document in email to Boss, HR if necessary.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:11:39 PM EDT
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Payback?
Fuck payback. Consult an attorney. Seriously. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:11:43 PM EDT
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Fuck all this noise Visine, always works and easy to palm.
Don't be a beta. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:12:50 PM EDT
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confront him in the hallway and tell him hes a fucking pussy. then tell him that you guys can take it to the garage if he wants to keep talking shit. That always works in corporate environments. The OP can't do that,because he's also passive/aggressive. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:14:11 PM EDT
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Answered above
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:17:18 PM EDT
[#18]
Fuck his dog and beat his wife.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:24:45 PM EDT
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This is fucking epic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT...get your colleagues to make statements about his behavior. Find out his work email address and from a third party computer register him at gay porn sites, use his cell and email to place ads for brony gay sex on craigslist and other sites. Pay a gay male stripper to come to work and make a scene as in lovers spat with him... This is fucking epic. Ahhh...no. Your IP address will point to you |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:26:48 PM EDT
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Start pumping resumes. Someone has to leave--you or him. And the powers that be already said who they trust when they made the other guy interim boss. OP said he does good work, that is not for him to determine. That is left to our bosses, and again the other guy was made his boss and has an opinion that he passed on to the new boss. OP also sounds rather angry and looking forrevenge. Not a good recipe for keeping a job. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:27:46 PM EDT
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What Would Kahn Do?
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:28:05 PM EDT
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How about making an ad for a bed and breakfast for the office. Or photoshopping his head onto some BDSM picture with his wife whipping him?
Any time you bring it up to management, you probably look like the person he is making you out to be. You gotta hit him where it hurts. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:29:54 PM EDT
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My guess is passive aggressive Dick is probably scared to death of conflict also. Call him out on his shit talking in front of coworkers and watch him squirm. Be forceful in pressing him about what he has said but keep it professional. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:33:54 PM EDT
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How is a PE in a directors position to boss around a safety guy?
I'm confused. Is the guy a PE or now above that? |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While it's just you and him bait him into confessing what he is doing, make him show his true form, hide a digital recorder in your pocket. Go to VP or senior management and show them the POS that he is. ETA - Sometimes to root out a weasel you have to think like a weasel. As a man I'd want to beat the crap out of him but that's frowned upon in the corporate world. You need to catch him in how own words showing his true colors. He can't weasel out of that. The get his trust and find a way to slam dunk this dude Chess not checkers
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:35:59 PM EDT
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If large corporation.....
1. Go to HR and tell them that you feel threatened in your job by him. 2. Tell them this is because of you following company safety policy. Clearly list offenses. 3. If company has 800 hotline for reporting start calling and saying you saw him harassing others in an inappropriate manner. 4. Find others who have had run in with this tool and have them do the same. He'll be in sensitivity training at the very least. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:40:07 PM EDT
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If old boss that loved you is still in a good relationship with your company, ask him to vouch for you with the new boss.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:42:52 PM EDT
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This is why I love the military
I could just confront him in front of everyone call him a pussy And say if you want to talk shit don't be a ball less cocksucker and say it to My face. And then flick my ashes on his boot. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:43:19 PM EDT
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Re-connect with your VP mentor and have him provide shielding. Make sure everyone else that this new manager talks to gives you high praise. If the dick-wad is the only one talking shit, then he's the anomaly.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You and him go sit down with the new director and lay it all out on the table. Be specific. Be polite, be professional. I guess in the civilian world this is the best solution. I enjoyed calling the people I hate cocksuckers at work |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:46:53 PM EDT
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HR. Hostile work environment .
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:48:04 PM EDT
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I had a person do that to me one time. I went into the Manager's office
and asked him point blank if that person was spreading rumors about me. He laughed and said I was right and they already checked out his claims and found them to be false. That man was let go a few months later on a layoff. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:49:45 PM EDT
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How is a PE in a directors position to boss around a safety guy? I'm confused. Is the guy a PE or now above that? Google the level of education and difficulty of obtaining a registration in each career, then ask yourself who you would want to be in charge of your operations. Yes there are those that think poorly of engineers after they find and "AH HA" in the field, but I don't see any field guys doing design. I would hire a guy who digs ditches for.. digging ditches, I'd hire and engineer to figure out where the ditches need to be dug. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:50:34 PM EDT
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This is easy- tell the boss he keeps touching your penis and asking to suck it. You've repeatedly asked him to stop, but he won't. You don't want to cause trouble but his behavior is extremely inappropriate.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:53:09 PM EDT
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just pull whatever safety authority you have to make his life miserable. pull out your safety checklist, crawl up his ass, and tell him all his shit is fucked.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:54:26 PM EDT
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Thought about this, but senior management would lose trust in me, knowing I recorded him. Don't think they would trust me again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While it's just you and him bait him into confessing what he is doing, make him show his true form, hide a digital recorder in your pocket. Go to VP or senior management and show them the POS that he is. Thought about this, but senior management would lose trust in me, knowing I recorded him. Don't think they would trust me again. record him talking shit about someone above you edit the recording to just include the offending statements get a anon webmail account, and connect through a proxy or some houses unprotected wifi and mass email the recording to the department. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:54:30 PM EDT
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I've been at this company for about 2 years now. I get along with everyone and do a good job. Our director recently quit. In comes new interim director. He's an extremely passive aggressive construction project engineer. I work safety. I call him out on a few unsafe things, very professionally, and he takes it extremely personally. Guy is a libtard that does not wear the pants in his family. His wife probably benches more than him and has resting bitch face. Now he's spreading rumors through the company about me, making it very personal - calling me a narcissist to others, etc.. He has ruined my relationship with my professional mentor, a VP at the company. We got the new director today. Interim bitch proceeds to tell him all these made up things about me and personally attacks me on the guys first day. This was behind closed doors. He smiles at me in the hallway, shakes my hand and pretends everything is okay but behind the door he's a pussy bitch backstabbing passive aggressive piece of shit. Need some clever payback ideas. I don't want to go to jail or be fired so I may need to resort to guerrilla under-the-radar tactics like this fuck stick. honest opinion..if the fuckstick ruined your relationship with your professional mentor that quick with no proof..either your mentor is a shitbag, or you are not as great as you think..sorry ..just an outside opinion based upon 1 post , so... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:59:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My guess is passive aggressive Dick is probably scared to death of conflict also. Call him out on his shit talking in front of coworkers and watch him squirm. Be forceful in pressing him about what he has said but keep it professional. Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT...get your colleagues to make statements about his behavior. Find out his work email address and from a third party computer register him at gay porn sites, use his cell and email to place ads for brony gay sex on craigslist and other sites. Pay a gay male stripper to come to work and make a scene as in lovers spat with him... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:01:30 PM EDT
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I've been at this company for about 2 years now. I get along with everyone and do a good job. Our director recently quit. In comes new interim director. He's an extremely passive aggressive construction project engineer. I work safety. I call him out on a few unsafe things, very professionally, and he takes it extremely personally. Guy is a libtard that does not wear the pants in his family. His wife probably benches more than him and has resting bitch face. Now he's spreading rumors through the company about me, making it very personal - calling me a narcissist to others, etc.. He has ruined my relationship with my professional mentor, a VP at the company. We got the new director today. Interim bitch proceeds to tell him all these made up things about me and personally attacks me on the guys first day. This was behind closed doors. He smiles at me in the hallway, shakes my hand and pretends everything is okay but behind the door he's a pussy bitch backstabbing passive aggressive piece of shit. Need some clever payback ideas. I don't want to go to jail or be fired so I may need to resort to guerrilla under-the-radar tactics like this fuck stick. The red above tells me you're not being truthful here. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:08:13 PM EDT
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Again, how do you know hes talking shit about you?
This whole thing doesn't add up. I'm getting ready to throw the flag. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:13:37 PM EDT
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Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My guess is passive aggressive Dick is probably scared to death of conflict also. Call him out on his shit talking in front of coworkers and watch him squirm. Be forceful in pressing him about what he has said but keep it professional. Yes, as a safety guy, I have done this, in a professional way. He freezes up. Just blank stare. Doesn't say much. Then he tries to justify his actions even though all code and procedure says he's 100% wrong. He doesn't drink beer, whiskey, or scotch. He drinks wine. He brings his wife bed in breakfast every day and cooks her dinner everyday even though he does put in a lot of hours at work. She keeps his balls. That's it...the final straw....tonight when my wife gets home I am throwing her dinner on the floor.... I had a boss like that too....humilated me in front of my crew one afternoon....I just stood there taking his abuse waiting for him to shag his fat ass back down the tracks to Minneapolis and his air conditioned cage...when he started poking me in the chest accentuating his angry insults with each jab of his pork sausage like finger and screwing up his ugly face with it's squinty little pig like eyes. He was standing on tie edge with his back to a 20ft embankment overgrown with poison ivy and blackberry tangles....took him quite a while to lug his portly out of breath carcass out of that hole. Thank God for the union since everyone saw him lay a hand on me first...I was only demoted from a $60K a year job down to a $30....  with no hope of advancement every again...
But hey sometimes if you can get them to loose their temper they screw up....oh wait a minute he got me to loose mine... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:13:54 PM EDT
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The red above tells me you're not being truthful here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been at this company for about 2 years now. I get along with everyone and do a good job. Our director recently quit. In comes new interim director. He's an extremely passive aggressive construction project engineer. I work safety. I call him out on a few unsafe things, very professionally, and he takes it extremely personally. Guy is a libtard that does not wear the pants in his family. His wife probably benches more than him and has resting bitch face. Now he's spreading rumors through the company about me, making it very personal - calling me a narcissist to others, etc.. He has ruined my relationship with my professional mentor, a VP at the company. We got the new director today. Interim bitch proceeds to tell him all these made up things about me and personally attacks me on the guys first day. This was behind closed doors. He smiles at me in the hallway, shakes my hand and pretends everything is okay but behind the door he's a pussy bitch backstabbing passive aggressive piece of shit. Need some clever payback ideas. I don't want to go to jail or be fired so I may need to resort to guerrilla under-the-radar tactics like this fuck stick. The red above tells me you're not being truthful here. Yup. Once I got to that line, my first response was "I guess he must be a bad employee, afterall." Mentors don't just turn on their proteges. They are in those positions for their ability to reason, teach and cultivate the intangibles, as a general rule. If some manager can speak to your mentor and "ruin your relationship" unilaterally, there wasn't a "relationship" to begin with. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:15:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Everyone hates the safety guys at work, I know I do. Get used to it.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:18:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While it's just you and him bait him into confessing what he is doing, make him show his true form, hide a digital recorder in your pocket. Go to VP or senior management and show them the POS that he is. this seems like the only possible answer based upon the information given. But, upper management hates troublemakers, so you'll be a marked man. It's a solution. But it will not make things better. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:19:51 PM EDT
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I've been at this company for about 2 years now. I get along with everyone and do a good job. Our director recently quit. In comes new interim director. He's an extremely passive aggressive construction project engineer. I work safety. I call him out on a few unsafe things, very professionally, and he takes it extremely personally. Guy is a libtard that does not wear the pants in his family. His wife probably benches more than him and has resting bitch face. Now he's spreading rumors through the company about me, making it very personal - calling me a narcissist to others, etc.. He has ruined my relationship with my professional mentor, a VP at the company. We got the new director today. Interim bitch proceeds to tell him all these made up things about me and personally attacks me on the guys first day. This was behind closed doors. He smiles at me in the hallway, shakes my hand and pretends everything is okay but behind the door he's a pussy bitch backstabbing passive aggressive piece of shit. Need some clever payback ideas. I don't want to go to jail or be fired so I may need to resort to guerrilla under-the-radar tactics like this fuck stick. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior 
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:26:36 PM EDT
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Document document document.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:27:21 PM EDT
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This is why I love the military I could just confront him in front of everyone call him a pussy And say if you want to talk shit don't be a ball less cocksucker and say it to My face. And then flick my ashes on his boot. Really? Ashes on the boots? Thats some cold hearted shit. I would rather take a shot in the kisser than have my boots messed up.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:29:24 PM EDT
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If you don't have any allies, you are pretty well fucked.
Let OSHA break it off for a bad decision. Document all comms. Karma will get them. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:35:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck all this noise Visine, always works and easy to palm. Don't be a beta.  |
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