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The key to losing weight is simple, you burn more than you take in and don't eat shit food... Period.
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me.
BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. |
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me. BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. View Quote Some of us have trouble maintaining weight though. I need carbs mixed into my diet to help me hold weight when I am working, and gain weight during the off season. I managed to gain 20 lbs last fall/winter, within a month of work starting I was down 10, and a month after that I was down another 5 lbs. The last 5 comes and goes week to week but I am trying to hold it. I figure if I can do the same thing again this winter maybe I will be able to stay up 10 lbs from the original next work season. |
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Where does it say you cannot eat carbs on a Paleo diet? I shouldn't have said "lost the last couple pounds" I should have said "it' helped me lose the last couple of pounds of fat". My weight almost went back to the same it was before paleo but less fat. (I'm 6'2" 176 lbs) You can eat tons of carbs on Paleo, just not processed sugar, pasta or bread. |
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WTF is this "paleo" nonsense? http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p482/jehsimon/sonturf_zpsoddfosft.jpg View Quote I'll have what he's having. |
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I don't disagree with that, but the constant barrage of "paleo this" and "paleo that" is tiresome. This is from someone that eats mostly meat, vegetables and fruit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A lot of people write a lot of books about a lot of things. You don't have to buy anything besides food to follow paleo. Everything you could ever hope to know about Paleo is available for 100% free on the interwebs. In fact, it's one of the things that sets it apart from actual fads that require you to buy meals, meal plans, supplements etc... I don't disagree with that, but the constant barrage of "paleo this" and "paleo that" is tiresome. This is from someone that eats mostly meat, vegetables and fruit. Well...people tend to get excited about things that in many cases have been literally life changing. |
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The key to losing weight is simple, you burn more than you take in and don't eat shit food... Period. Hell, I know people in great shape who work out and still eat shit foods. View Quote Yep, but the key to being healthy, and losing fat and gaining or maintaining muscle is more complicated. |
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Why does paleo even exist? View Quote To make people on the internet angry. |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/13/science/for-evolving-brains-a-paleo-diet-full-of-carbs.html
Scientists have long recognized that the diets of our ancestors went through a profound shift with the addition of meat. But in the September issue of The Quarterly Review of Biology, researchers argue that another item added to the menu was just as important: carbohydrates, bane of today’s paleo diet enthusiasts. In fact, the scientists propose, by incorporating cooked starches into their diet, our ancestors were able to fuel the evolution of our oversize brains. View Quote http://www.livescience.com/46836-prehistoric-tooth-plaque-diet.html When looking for a meal, prehistoric people in Africa munched on the tuberous roots of weeds.... View Quote Just sayin... |
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Is that a new PR for you? I seem to be in a growth spurt. Dead PR up 30lbs in under 6 weeks. Nice! Is that 365? 335. Gimme another 6 weeks. I mostly don't go for one rep max when deadlifting, but the other day I thought, "what the hell?" and put 365 on after I did my heavy set of 315, and I got it a couple times. I think I might be able to get 385 but I'm kind of afraid to try it... |
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I don't hate other people's success. I'm a big fan of successful people. I really don't like gimmicky marketing aimed at people that don't understand what the problem is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why do you hate success so much? Because it's someone else succeeding. I don't hate other people's success. I'm a big fan of successful people. I really don't like gimmicky marketing aimed at people that don't understand what the problem is. That is terrible marketing. I have bought one "Paleo" product in the 3 years I've been doing this, a cookbook. My wife bought one pouch of Paleo granola. That is the case for most of the people I know that have done the Paleo thing. Yes, there are idiots that buy anything with the word Paleo on it, but that's not the norm. |
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me. BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. View Quote What's this inflammation you speak of? |
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me. BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. What's this inflammation you speak of? It's immeasurable, but every soccer mom suffers from it. |
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It's immeasurable, but every soccer mom suffers from it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me. BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. What's this inflammation you speak of? It's immeasurable, but every soccer mom suffers from it. Yep, there's certainly no science to back it up. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/common-food-additive-promotes-inflammatory-bowel-disease-and-obesity-mice http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139128 http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/micronutrients-health/inflammation http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation The question really is WHAT exactly causes it, or what helps to decrease it. Some blame saturated fat, others refined carbs, etc... Damn you really got a hard on for paleo don't you? |
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If my SN started with Roland we could have a hat trick. We're at capacity for Rolands. Only 2 allowed. Sorry. Fuck this I didn't want to be a Roland anyway. |
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Fuck this I didn't want to be a Roland anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If my SN started with Roland we could have a hat trick. We're at capacity for Rolands. Only 2 allowed. Sorry. Fuck this I didn't want to be a Roland anyway. Of course you didn't. |
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Yep, there's certainly no science to back it up. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/common-food-additive-promotes-inflammatory-bowel-disease-and-obesity-mice http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139128 http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/micronutrients-health/inflammation http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation The question really is WHAT exactly causes it, or what helps to decrease it. Some blame saturated fat, others refined carbs, etc... Damn you really got a hard on for paleo don't you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's amazing how little most people understand about nutrition. It's even more amazing how people, that know little about nutrition, have such a strong opinion about a diet they know even less about. It's called the Paleo or Primal (there are slight variations between paleo and primal though) but the idea is not to exactly replicate a caveman diet. The idea is to cut down on foods that cause inflammation in the body and eliminate processed foods. How on earth eating lots of fruits and vegetables (all contain plenty of carbs) and lean meats could be considered a fad is beyond me. BTW, I'm not a couch potato at all. I train BJJ, Run 5, 8 and 10K runs and do Tough Mudder (11 mile obstacle courses) and I've been Paleo/Primal for 2 years. I have never had any issues with energy and my performance has been much better since switching. I also lost about 5 or six pounds. I was already fit but eating this way just enhanced my performance and knocked off that last couple pounds. What's this inflammation you speak of? It's immeasurable, but every soccer mom suffers from it. Yep, there's certainly no science to back it up. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/common-food-additive-promotes-inflammatory-bowel-disease-and-obesity-mice http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139128 http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/micronutrients-health/inflammation http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation The question really is WHAT exactly causes it, or what helps to decrease it. Some blame saturated fat, others refined carbs, etc... Damn you really got a hard on for paleo don't you? Not really. My real problem is the deception behind it. Most fat people aren't fat because they eat processed food. They're fat because they eat a shit ton of processed food. I would guess that most people would consider my diet to be pretty paleo. Example of my food intake today... Breakfast--Banana and Greek yogurt Lunch--Pork chop and a large salted cucumber Afternoon snack--Mixed salted nuts Dinner--Ribeye, green beans and more cucumbers(we have a lot of cucumbers right now). Right now--Drinking bourbon. At 1800 I lifted. At 1900 I ran 3 sets of intervals. Run 10 mins@8:15 pace, walk 2 mins. I'm not against eating real food. I'm totally against marketing this towards people that don't understand it. |
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Not really. My real problem is the deception behind it. Most fat people aren't fat because they eat processed food. They're fat because they eat a shit ton of processed food. I would guess that most people would consider my diet to be pretty paleo. Example of my food intake today... Breakfast--Banana and Greek yogurt Lunch--Pork chop and a large salted cucumber Afternoon snack--Mixed salted nuts Dinner--Ribeye, green beans and more cucumbers(we have a lot of cucumbers right now). Right now--Drinking bourbon. At 1800 I lifted. At 1900 I ran 3 sets of intervals. Run 10 mins@8:15 pace, walk 2 mins. I'm not against eating real food. I'm totally against marketing this towards people that don't understand it. View Quote Sooooooo....ignoring the studies I posted after your soccer mom comment huh? Alright so you eat pretty close to paleo. You hate the marketing that doesn't actually market anything but some cookbooks. I guess I'm at a loss. You clearly agree it's a good healthy way to eat. Putting a label on it in some way is a good thing to make it easier for people to research it (even though paleo was a bad choice in this instance)...there's no deception behind it, there's just people that disagree about the paleo moniker...which really doesn't matter anyway. I don't really know what your problem is. ETA- and there's plenty of studies showing that eating shitty food even in reduced amounts makes it harder to burn fat vs. the same amount of healthy food. Calorie source matters, anyone who says different doesn't know what they're talking about. |
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Sooooooo....ignoring the studies I posted after your soccer mom comment huh? Alright so you eat pretty close to paleo. You hate the marketing that doesn't actually market anything but some cookbooks. I guess I'm at a loss. You clearly agree it's a good healthy way to eat. Putting a label on it in some way is a good thing to make it easier for people to research it (even though paleo was a bad choice in this instance)...there's no deception behind it, there's just people that disagree about the paleo moniker...which really doesn't matter anyway. I don't really know what your problem is. ETA- and there's plenty of studies showing that eating shitty food even in reduced amounts makes it harder to burn fat vs. the same amount of healthy food. Calorie source matters, anyone who says different doesn't know what they're talking about. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not really. My real problem is the deception behind it. Most fat people aren't fat because they eat processed food. They're fat because they eat a shit ton of processed food. I would guess that most people would consider my diet to be pretty paleo. Example of my food intake today... Breakfast--Banana and Greek yogurt Lunch--Pork chop and a large salted cucumber Afternoon snack--Mixed salted nuts Dinner--Ribeye, green beans and more cucumbers(we have a lot of cucumbers right now). Right now--Drinking bourbon. At 1800 I lifted. At 1900 I ran 3 sets of intervals. Run 10 mins@8:15 pace, walk 2 mins. I'm not against eating real food. I'm totally against marketing this towards people that don't understand it. Sooooooo....ignoring the studies I posted after your soccer mom comment huh? Alright so you eat pretty close to paleo. You hate the marketing that doesn't actually market anything but some cookbooks. I guess I'm at a loss. You clearly agree it's a good healthy way to eat. Putting a label on it in some way is a good thing to make it easier for people to research it (even though paleo was a bad choice in this instance)...there's no deception behind it, there's just people that disagree about the paleo moniker...which really doesn't matter anyway. I don't really know what your problem is. ETA- and there's plenty of studies showing that eating shitty food even in reduced amounts makes it harder to burn fat vs. the same amount of healthy food. Calorie source matters, anyone who says different doesn't know what they're talking about. Obviously I didn't click on and read any of those links. I'm sure they're supportive of your argument. Can you honestly tell me that you don't know any people that are doing the "paleo thing" wrong because they know the very basics and are fucking it all up by committing one or two mistakes daily that destroy the entire concept? My opinion is that we should stop calling it paleo and start promoting that people eat natural foods and minimize highly processed, carb rich foods that add a shit ton of calories that most people don't even realize are detrimental. |
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Obviously I didn't click on and read any of those links. I'm sure they're supportive of your argument. Can you honestly tell me that you don't know any people that are doing the "paleo thing" wrong because they know the very basics and are fucking it all up by committing one or two mistakes daily that destroy the entire concept? My opinion is that we should stop calling it paleo and start promoting that people eat natural foods and minimize highly processed, carb rich foods that add a shit ton of calories that most people don't even realize are detrimental. View Quote Of COURSE I know people like that. They're not the majority though. These are the people I mention in every thread about paleo that eat a pound of almond flour a day and a cup of honey. I also mention in every thread about paleo that it's a dumb name. So...it sounds like you have a problem with the name...(so do I) and people that "abuse" the basic principles (these are people that find loopholes, and don't do much research). I agree with these things. You should really be more clear in your disdain for the NAME rather than the way of eating itself, you know what I mean? |
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Of COURSE I know people like that. They're not the majority though. These are the people I mention in every thread about paleo that eat a pound of almond flour a day and a cup of honey. I also mention in every thread about paleo that it's a dumb name. So...it sounds like you have a problem with the name...(so do I) and people that "abuse" the basic principles (these are people that find loopholes, and don't do much research). I agree with these things. You should really be more clear in your disdain for the NAME rather than the way of eating itself, you know what I mean? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Obviously I didn't click on and read any of those links. I'm sure they're supportive of your argument. Can you honestly tell me that you don't know any people that are doing the "paleo thing" wrong because they know the very basics and are fucking it all up by committing one or two mistakes daily that destroy the entire concept? My opinion is that we should stop calling it paleo and start promoting that people eat natural foods and minimize highly processed, carb rich foods that add a shit ton of calories that most people don't even realize are detrimental. Of COURSE I know people like that. They're not the majority though. These are the people I mention in every thread about paleo that eat a pound of almond flour a day and a cup of honey. I also mention in every thread about paleo that it's a dumb name. So...it sounds like you have a problem with the name...(so do I) and people that "abuse" the basic principles (these are people that find loopholes, and don't do much research). I agree with these things. You should really be more clear in your disdain for the NAME rather than the way of eating itself, you know what I mean? Did I say that I had a problem with people eating healthy? Without going back I remember saying that people should eat shitty foods in moderation. |
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Did I say that I had a problem with people eating healthy? Without going back I remember saying that people should eat shitty foods in moderation. This seems like the dumbest, fad diet idea ever. Do you really think that cavemen didn't eat grains or legumes or potatoes?
I'm pretty sure they ate everything they could find. Why? Because fuck being hungry. Eat what is available. These silly fad diets are doing people more harm than good. Everyone is looking for a quick fix to being fat. Dumbest fad idea ever...or healthy good way to eat... Anyway... |
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Did I say that I had a problem with people eating healthy? Without going back I remember saying that people should eat shitty foods in moderation. This seems like the dumbest, fad diet idea ever. Do you really think that cavemen didn't eat grains or legumes or potatoes?
I'm pretty sure they ate everything they could find. Why? Because fuck being hungry. Eat what is available. These silly fad diets are doing people more harm than good. Everyone is looking for a quick fix to being fat. Dumbest fad idea ever...or healthy good way to eat... Anyway... C'mon man.....You see the difference in eating today and eating 10k yrs ago. Availability??? |
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The key to losing weight is simple, you burn more than you take in and don't eat shit food... Period. Hell, I know people in great shape who work out and still eat shit foods. View Quote This sort of works, thanks to the resilience of the YOUNG human body. But the calories in/calories out equation has been disproven. Your hormones react differently to carb calories as compared to fat or protein calories. This is the basis for "metabolic syndrome," which is the reason why over 50 percent of American men over 50 have waist measurements over 40 inches. This is not normal and it's not okay. (BTW if you wear size 37 pants, your waist is at least 40 inches.) 150 calories of broccoli or olive oil is entirely different than the 150 calories in a can of pepsi. Unless you are very active, the body will turn the Pepsi into body fat at a much higher rate than the broccoli or olive oil. Obesity has grown exponentially since the .gov started telling us to cut out dietary fat. Eating fat does not make you fat! Eating sugar/grains/starches/carbs makes you fat. Paleo is a nearly perfect remedy for the problem, and it works for lots and lots of people. |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/13/science/for-evolving-brains-a-paleo-diet-full-of-carbs.html Scientists have long recognized that the diets of our ancestors went through a profound shift with the addition of meat. But in the September issue of The Quarterly Review of Biology, researchers argue that another item added to the menu was just as important: carbohydrates, bane of today’s paleo diet enthusiasts. In fact, the scientists propose, by incorporating cooked starches into their diet, our ancestors were able to fuel the evolution of our oversize brains. http://www.livescience.com/46836-prehistoric-tooth-plaque-diet.html When looking for a meal, prehistoric people in Africa munched on the tuberous roots of weeds.... Just sayin... Yes, the NY Times is a reliable source-- especially on a totally non political subject like food, where super libs want you to eat all vegan due to cow flatulence destroying the environment. Sheesh. |
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Something that may have gotten lost or forgotten by some of the posters here. Up until about 100 years ago, there most of the population had to split their own wood to build a fire for their meals. There wasn't much obesity back then.
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C'mon man.....You see the difference in eating today and eating 10k yrs ago. Availability??? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did I say that I had a problem with people eating healthy? Without going back I remember saying that people should eat shitty foods in moderation. This seems like the dumbest, fad diet idea ever. Do you really think that cavemen didn't eat grains or legumes or potatoes?
I'm pretty sure they ate everything they could find. Why? Because fuck being hungry. Eat what is available. These silly fad diets are doing people more harm than good. Everyone is looking for a quick fix to being fat. Dumbest fad idea ever...or healthy good way to eat... Anyway... C'mon man.....You see the difference in eating today and eating 10k yrs ago. Availability??? I am 0% interested in how people ate 10,000 years ago. What I know is that there are a lot of health benefits to eating paleo despite its silly name. |
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I am 0% interested in how people ate 10,000 years ago. What I know is that there are a lot of health benefits to eating paleo despite its silly name. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Did I say that I had a problem with people eating healthy? Without going back I remember saying that people should eat shitty foods in moderation. This seems like the dumbest, fad diet idea ever. Do you really think that cavemen didn't eat grains or legumes or potatoes?
I'm pretty sure they ate everything they could find. Why? Because fuck being hungry. Eat what is available. These silly fad diets are doing people more harm than good. Everyone is looking for a quick fix to being fat. Dumbest fad idea ever...or healthy good way to eat... Anyway... C'mon man.....You see the difference in eating today and eating 10k yrs ago. Availability??? I am 0% interested in how people ate 10,000 years ago. What I know is that there are a lot of health benefits to eating paleo despite its silly name. Fine then...We should continue to argue about what we agree on. It's the internet. There's no room for anything else. |
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stutz, I don't know what you're talking about with marketing.
This diet to my knowledge has never been marketed by any food company or corporation. It's literally been a word-of-mouth, word-of-blog and published books movement. Heck I would think the big food makers that churn out boxed processed foods would be against it. As stated, the core is simply eat whole foods, that's it. Some say legumes are okay some don't, they all agree on the basics though, stop eating processed breaded/sugar'd foods. Period. You also mentioned these people are fat not from eating processed foods but from eating a lot of it. I'd disagree. Every really large person I've personally known (mostly family) eats....everything. Whole foods, processed foods, everything. Taking out that processed food but still letting them eat whole foods would most likely help, do it for years and they'd probably lengthen their lifespan. It's pretty simple, processed foods take longer for your brain to tell you you're full, so you keep eating. It's really not their fault no matter how much fat-shaming we want to do. They're eating until they're full and the food companies realize the more sugars and addictive additives they can put in a food the more boxes you'll buy, the larger your stomach expands, the more you can eat, it's just genius really. Again fat-shaming them doesn't help, that's clear, so telling them to just eat less of that processed food has gone no where. I'm fine with the diet, and movement, only issue I have with the hardcore ones is legumes. I think they're fine, so do studies in South America on their high-legume diet. You also mentioned potatoes, potatoes are fine, not during Whole 30 but non-fried, red/new potatoes are fine. Sweet potatoes (roots) are like the food of choice for them. yes, I'm pretty sure cave men/women ate roots like sweet potatoes. Simply telling people who are fat, "stop being a dumbass" won't do anything. It's like telling a smoker "dumbass just stop smoking." Nothing with addictions is that easy, if it was there probably wouldn't be any smokers, or any fat people. Do you think they enjoy being overweight? Stopping smoking, alcohol, heroin, whatever takes processes and work, steps, etc. This diet is similar, start slowly, cut out, this, then that, see what results you get, see what caused you problems that you didn't even realize. |
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This seems like the dumbest, fad diet idea ever. Do you really think that cavemen didn't eat grains or legumes or potatoes? I'm pretty sure they ate everything they could find. Why? Because fuck being hungry. Eat what is available. These silly fad diets are doing people more harm than good. Everyone is looking for a quick fix to being fat. Just stop being a dumbass. View Quote I hate the name, and am a charter member of the Mock Paleo club, but ultimately, it's easy to stick to and it works. |
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It's hard to make money selling books and other products if all you have to give is eat less and exercise more. This Products like...meat and vegetables? LOL Who invented meat anyway? |
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It's hard to make money selling books and other products if all you have to give is eat less and exercise more. This Products like...meat and vegetables? LOL No. Products like cookbooks and videos. Don't pretend like this isn't about marketing. yeah there's big money in cook books right? I'm sure paleo is just a scheme made up by the cook book lobby to gain more money and influence. There's all kinds of cook books Claiming paleo was made up to sell them is ridiculous. And what videos? I've literally never seen a paleo video. You can find out absolutely everything you need to know about paleo for free on the internet. You can also find more recipes than you could ever hope to have time to cook. If it's a marketing scheme, it's a pretty shitty one. |
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It's hard to make money selling books and other products if all you have to give is eat less and exercise more. This Products like...meat and vegetables? LOL Who invented meat anyway? I think Stutzcattle did. Well I like it so kudos to that guy. |
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Products like...meat and vegetables? LOL No. Products like cookbooks and videos. Don't pretend like this isn't about marketing. Let me give just one example of why you don't know what you're talking about. Somewhere in the archives there's a thread that ran (I'm guessing) about 70 or 80 pages over the span of about two years, with tons of site members saying they tried it and it works. I couldn't even guess how many people, and a lot of the results were not just losing ten pounds, we're talking about some people going off of medications. Nowhere in that thread is there anything for sale. The website "MarksDailyApple" sells books, but openly says that you can find everything in the book on their website for free. Of course there's Paleo shit for sale- anytime something's popular people will try to cash in on it. That doesn't mean that it's necessary. It's not. Ever. |
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