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Posted: 7/30/2015 7:32:07 AM EDT
Jeb Bush and Scott Walker.
Jeb Bush? WTF people. Trump doesn't do so well: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2264 |
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You need to remember the majority of Americans are very low information and don't follow politics, AT ALL.
Name recognition wins at this point. |
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Bullshit poll is bullshit.
Trump or any GOP candidate would be able to completely roast Hillary. Trump will make it fun. Come back when you have a real poll. |
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Yeah, I am not sure I buy this poll. Naturally, you can get any poll answers you are looking for based on whichever "unbiased" news organization you work for. But Trump is killing it, he is all over the news and people are eating it up.
ETA: especially with the Jeb Bush crap. I haven't met a single republican yet who supports him. Though I am sure Hillary would love to run against Jeb. |
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html |
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Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. Jeb Bush? WTF people. Trump doesn't do so well: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2264 View Quote Jeb = name recognition, speaks well, a former gov, progressives and dems hiding out as republicans really like him. Jeb = Pro illegal immigration, pro common core, pro all progressive stuff. He will not make it out of the primaries. The GOP base knows that he is a D BAG. |
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Bullshit poll is bullshit. Trump or any GOP candidate would be able to completely roast Hillary. Trump will make it fun. Come back when you have a real poll. I remember posts like this in 2012... TRUE, but..... In 2008 and 2012 the conservatives and white males did not have a candidate that excited them. This election there are a few that will draw the conservative white vote. The biggest self identifying political group is conservative, 34%. Also, the next election will not have a candidate that excites the minority base. There will be no first black president running. The minority base will vote in half the numbers they did in the last two elections. They dont get excited for voting for white people. This will be a completely different cycle. It doesnt mean the GOP will win, but it will be much different. |
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html View Quote And Trump gets beat like a rented mule. |
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html View Quote HRC has the biggest negative rating of all the candidates. L vs R winner doesnt typically pick up the negative pollers. In polls, voters can easily select the person from their party, but if they dont like the person from their party, they less likely to driver to the poll and vote on election day. And the constant negative stories about her will add up by election day. She is in a negative press death spriral. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419485/have-hillarys-scandals-finally-started-damaging-her-poll-numbers-michael-barone |
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html View Quote Of course they lose. And trump would lose even worse. Also keep in mind those polls don't even take into account the fact that the dems are starting with a virtual lock on 70-90% of the electoral votes they need to win. Something has to go seriously wrong for the dems to lose. A lot has to go absolutely perfect for any republican to win. |
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Polls may be skewed depending on the way the questions are posed and whom are questioned.
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HRC has the biggest negative rating of all the candidates. L vs R winner doesnt typically pick up the negative pollers. In polls, voters can easily select the person from their party, but if they dont like the person from their party, they less likely to driver to the poll and vote on election day. And the constant negative stories about her will add up by election day. She is in a negative press death spriral. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419485/have-hillarys-scandals-finally-started-damaging-her-poll-numbers-michael-barone View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html HRC has the biggest negative rating of all the candidates. L vs R winner doesnt typically pick up the negative pollers. In polls, voters can easily select the person from their party, but if they dont like the person from their party, they less likely to driver to the poll and vote on election day. And the constant negative stories about her will add up by election day. She is in a negative press death spriral. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419485/have-hillarys-scandals-finally-started-damaging-her-poll-numbers-michael-barone Oh at one time in our history FHRC's negative ratings would preclude her for any consideration for a nomination but for the 47+ she represents it's all about the cheese. Now if Warren would jump in FHRC would be making excuses why she won't run in a month. The 47+% would spring over to Warren in a heartbeat. Warren would be much harder to beat as she is the liberals wet dream and they would come out in droves to vote for her. She would pick-up a lot of Independents too. |
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Reality: the GOP's wooing of the Hispanic vote gains nothing; Romney would have needed 80% of it to win in '12 as opposed to gaining 4% more of the white vote. In other words, if the GOP ran on and stuck to Conservative principles and quit going in the direction in which they were steered by pollsters and the MSM they would win handily.
But alas.....the Carl Rove mafia will just hand the GOP another defeat while the most Conservative and loyal members of the party(former members after this)stay home and prepare for Hillary. |
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You need to remember the majority of Americans are very low information and don't follow politics, AT ALL. Name recognition wins at this point. View Quote Exactly... Check out this July 2007 polll "By a wide margin, Democrats view Sen. Hillary Clinton (N.Y.) as the party's candidate best positioned to win the general election, and she holds a double-digit lead over Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) in the race for the nomination, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News Poll." |
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I dig the hell out of your optimism. I don't see where the hell it comes from,but it's refreshing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bullshit poll is bullshit. Trump or any GOP candidate would be able to completely roast Hillary. Trump will make it fun. Come back when you have a real poll. I dig the hell out of your optimism. I don't see where the hell it comes from,but it's refreshing. No kidding. It beats the "Woe is me" & "Watch it burn" pussy defeatist bullshit. |
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In October 2016, this forum is going to be screaming "Jeb (or maybe Christie) in a landslide!". The usual suspects will demand you vote for Jeb or insist you're actually voting for Hillary. They'll sing Jeb's praises. People will pontificate that maybe he's a much better leader than anybody gives him credit for. Certain individuals will ridicule anyone who suggests that maybe Jeb isn't a strong candidate, and stop just short of impugning the dissenter's family, virility, sexuality, intelligence, and patriotism. Well, they'll stop just short of most of those.
And then ol' Jeb will be crushed like McGovern. And the wailing and gnashing of teeth here will be legendary. Oh man, the screaming and the screeching and the pointing of fingers... And then the three-way GOP schism will finally be in full swing. |
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HRC has the biggest negative rating of all the candidates. L vs R winner doesnt typically pick up the negative pollers. In polls, voters can easily select the person from their party, but if they dont like the person from their party, they less likely to driver to the poll and vote on election day. And the constant negative stories about her will add up by election day. She is in a negative press death spriral. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419485/have-hillarys-scandals-finally-started-damaging-her-poll-numbers-michael-barone View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html HRC has the biggest negative rating of all the candidates. L vs R winner doesnt typically pick up the negative pollers. In polls, voters can easily select the person from their party, but if they dont like the person from their party, they less likely to driver to the poll and vote on election day. And the constant negative stories about her will add up by election day. She is in a negative press death spriral. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419485/have-hillarys-scandals-finally-started-damaging-her-poll-numbers-michael-barone I'd expect to see low voter turnout from both parties in a Clinton/Bush election. |
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Jeb is going to get the nomination and he is going to win the election. And nothing will change at best. At worst we loose more freedoms in the name of reasonable security. Government and debt continue to grow. |
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Bullshit poll is bullshit. Trump or any GOP candidate would be able to completely roast Hillary. Trump will make it fun. Come back when you have a real poll. View Quote Okay: http://www.people-press.org/2014/12/10/growing-public-support-for-gun-rights/ |
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I don't agree with him on everything but we could do a hell of a lot worse than Scott Walker.
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"The not-so-good news is that she is locked in too-close to call races with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. And Vice President Joseph Biden runs just as well as her against the top Republicans," Malloy added. View Quote LOL Biden? That's the real WTF right there |
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LOL Biden? That's the real WTF right there View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
"The not-so-good news is that she is locked in too-close to call races with WisconsinGov. Scott Walker and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. And Vice President Joseph Biden runsjust as well as her against the top Republicans," Malloy added. LOL Biden? That's the real WTF right there The early name recognition thing again. The thing with Hilary though is the more people are exposed to her, the less they like her. I'd bet Joe, as goofy as he is, ultimately does better than Hilary if he gets the nomination. Honestly though, if he isn't fundraising by now, there is zero chance he wins the nomination. |
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And Trump gets beat like a rented mule. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html And Trump gets beat like a rented mule. Which is exactly what is going to happen. I FEAR he will get the nomination, because he is unelectable. |
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Which is exactly what is going to happen. I FEAR he will get the nomination, because he is unelectable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to the RCP poll average Bush and Paul do the best against FHRC but both lose. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html And Trump gets beat like a rented mule. Which is exactly what is going to happen. I FEAR he will get the nomination, because he is unelectable. 1) I don't think Trump has any real interest in getting the nomination 2) The 2012 rule changes at the GOP convention pretty well insured that nobody is winning unless they are tight with the GOP leadership |
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The "If the election were held today" shit is well, SHIT.
The election is a LONG ways off. Paying attention to that crap will give you crabs. |
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Don't believe all the polls you see. They are cery often tied to some agenda. Lots of polls say hillary is not popular. In fact she may be tied with chris crispycreme
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