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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:42:20 PM EDT
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What kind of dogs are they? Malinois, Shepards?
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:42:33 PM EDT
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I thought the exact same thing when I saw the video this morning. The first dog should have his nutz removed.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:44:29 PM EDT
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My bad, double post
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:45:34 PM EDT
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Need some of those vicious dogs they showed on that Nat Geo episode
where they went to the prisons in Russia. I don't know the breed though, but were really big dogs.... 
Of course, there is a Wookie in the White House...and they are known to rip peoples arms off when they are mad.... 
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:47:26 PM EDT
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Well trained dogs are rare
Budget should not be equated with competency |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Dogs spent too much time with Columbian hookers. Lost their killer instinct.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:48:30 PM EDT
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I heard about it but haven't seen it do you by chance have a YouTube link? All I'm finding was the other dud with the spongebob hat they did it earlier
Nvmd I found it I guess I wasnt trying hard enough earlier |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:49:01 PM EDT
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Op owes me a link to the vid!
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well trained dogs are rare Budget should not be equated with competency |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:50:17 PM EDT
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What kind of dogs are they? Malinois, Shepards? Judging from this White House... Pit Bulls. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:50:28 PM EDT
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I don't know what breed they use but that first dog should be booted off the force. What a total wimp! At least the second one tried to do its freakin job. Had that first one piled one quickly... they would have still had him. I think it is time to take a serious look at the dogs they choose for that duty. Maybe better to go with a pair of bull mastiffs or something else? Honestly, my 80lb boxer would have laughed at that lame kick and been on that punks arm like stink on a monkey.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Judging from this White House... Pit Bulls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What kind of dogs are they? Malinois, Shepards? Judging from this White House... Pit Bulls. 
If they were dual cert dogs they would have to be booted I am sure based on some of the invited guests and residents of da mothefuckin white crib |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:55:18 PM EDT
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here is a link to the video. Watch the sad excuse for dog first one run like a little girl after the guy tries a lame kick. Just sad... Second dog at least had some guts but needed that other dog to jump in and help. Considering the crazy high amount we probably spent on those two dogs... I would have expected waaaay better showing.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/23/video-shows-white-house-fence-jumper-kicking-punching-guard-dog-before-secret-service-agents-arrest-him/ |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:55:36 PM EDT
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I would think Mals would be best for quick apprehension. I have worn the bite suit with my Malinois and another being sent at the same time and I was toast.
.GOV, I am disappoint. 
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:58:18 PM EDT
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If they were dual cert dogs they would have to be booted I am sure based on some of the invited guests and residents of da mothefuckin white crib Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What kind of dogs are they? Malinois, Shepards? Judging from this White House... Pit Bulls.
If they were dual cert dogs they would have to be booted I am sure based on some of the invited guests and residents of da mothefuckin white crib Dog fights in the Rose Garden, Jay-Z and Kanye having a rap-off from the balcony... 40's and Cristal in the Lincoln bedroom... |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:58:47 PM EDT
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Dogs probably fear the Officer Wilson treatment by the press, so they're hesitant.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:59:25 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open.
The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 3:59:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:00:51 PM EDT
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I don't know what breed they use but that first dog should be booted off the force. What a total wimp! At least the second one tried to do its freakin job. Had that first one piled one quickly... they would have still had him. I think it is time to take a serious look at the dogs they choose for that duty. Maybe better to go with a pair of bull mastiffs or something else? Honestly, my 80lb boxer would have laughed at that lame kick and been on that punks arm like stink on a monkey. It's a 100# dog. Again, a grown man shouldn't have any problem reacting to the dog and body slamming it. Or kicking it. Or breaking it's neck. But lots of people fear dogs and are just pussies and don't know how to defend themselves. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:01:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: I honestly would have expected more from those two dogs. One was stopped by a single kick right off the bat. The other at least knocked him down but quickly let the punk start pounding on the dog. I think my 80lb boxer could have done a better showing on that punk. I wanted to see both dogs on him and some serious chomping going on. Have our white house dogs even turned into wimps? The purpose of the dogs is to stop people. Not to kill them, eat them, tear body parts off or do whatever you happen to think is "cool". |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:01:25 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand.
You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it 
Seriously dude even if you think you are the baddest motherfucker and pimp slapped leroy brown a good working dog will fuck you up regardless of your confidence |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:02:02 PM EDT
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You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand.
You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it I have. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:02:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:03:17 PM EDT
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You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it
Seriously dude even if you think you are the baddest motherfucker and pimp slapped leroy brown a good working dog will fuck you up regardless of your confidence Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand.
You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it
Seriously dude even if you think you are the baddest motherfucker and pimp slapped leroy brown a good working dog will fuck you up regardless of your confidence Get a grip. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:03:39 PM EDT
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Need some of those vicious dogs they showed on that Nat Geo episode where they went to the prisons in Russia. I don't know the breed though, but were really big dogs....
Of course, there is a Wookie in the White House...and they are known to rip peoples arms off when they are mad.... Rusian Prison Dogs |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:03:47 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand.
You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it I have. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:04:32 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand.
You have never encountered a devoted well trained working dog retard + old man strong squared with a dash of pissed of woman is the best way to describe it I have. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdBeNWjcsd0FvCLXJP-KmSBP5LdYJRl7PVz_KNR7P1KpBwlo1S 
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:05:54 PM EDT
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I saw this yesterday and it pissed me off. The 1st dog seems to be called off after the kick. If you look close, the 2nd dog is still on a damn leash! That's how the guy got the best of the 2nd dog. Dog can't do his job when he/she is being restricted by a freaking leash!!
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:07:07 PM EDT
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I saw this yesterday and it pissed me off. The 1st dog seems to be called off after the kick. If you look close, the 2nd dog is still on a damn leash! That's how the guy got the best of the 2nd dog. Dog can't do his job when he/she is being restricted by a freaking leash!! Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:07:51 PM EDT
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Dogs probably fear the Officer Wilson treatment by the press, so they're hesitant. Right... We don't know if they're going to focus on the German aspect of the Shepard or the Black aspect of the coat. Media is all racist up this. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw this yesterday and it pissed me off. The 1st dog seems to be called off after the kick. If you look close, the 2nd dog is still on a damn leash! That's how the guy got the best of the 2nd dog. Dog can't do his job when he/she is being restricted by a freaking leash!! Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Yep |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:08:57 PM EDT
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The purpose of the dogs is to stop people. Not to kill them, eat them, tear body parts off or do whatever you happen to think is "cool". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I honestly would have expected more from those two dogs. One was stopped by a single kick right off the bat. The other at least knocked him down but quickly let the punk start pounding on the dog. I think my 80lb boxer could have done a better showing on that punk. I wanted to see both dogs on him and some serious chomping going on. Have our white house dogs even turned into wimps? The purpose of the dogs is to stop people. Not to kill them, eat them, tear body parts off or do whatever you happen to think is "cool". I wasn't wanting to see the dogs eat the guy... just do their job and get him on the ground. Those two dogs totally failed in my opinion and there is no telling how many thousands of dollars we spent on them and their training. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:10:00 PM EDT
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Do they hit attack dogs during training?
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't wanting to see the dogs eat the guy... just do their job and get him on the ground. Those two dogs totally failed in my opinion and there is no telling how many thousands of dollars we spent on them and their training. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I honestly would have expected more from those two dogs. One was stopped by a single kick right off the bat. The other at least knocked him down but quickly let the punk start pounding on the dog. I think my 80lb boxer could have done a better showing on that punk. I wanted to see both dogs on him and some serious chomping going on. Have our white house dogs even turned into wimps? The purpose of the dogs is to stop people. Not to kill them, eat them, tear body parts off or do whatever you happen to think is "cool". I wasn't wanting to see the dogs eat the guy... just do their job and get him on the ground. Those two dogs totally failed in my opinion and there is no telling how many thousands of dollars we spent on them and their training. Read my post above. Wasn't the dogs, was the handlers. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:12:47 PM EDT
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Do they hit attack dogs during training? Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw this yesterday and it pissed me off. The 1st dog seems to be called off after the kick. If you look close, the 2nd dog is still on a damn leash! That's how the guy got the best of the 2nd dog. Dog can't do his job when he/she is being restricted by a freaking leash!! Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Consider for a moment that the Uniformed Division officers don't have the luxury of doing whatever they want to. There is a broader perspective. Part of policy/training is likely holding the second (and 3rd) dog in reserve in the event another person comes over the fence. The second dog can be sent if the first is ineffective. That allows for a proportionate response while holding some assets in reserve until the full scope of the threat is assessed. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:20:12 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. You busy this Sunday? We have bite-work starting at 11.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:21:53 PM EDT
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Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I saw this yesterday and it pissed me off. The 1st dog seems to be called off after the kick. If you look close, the 2nd dog is still on a damn leash! That's how the guy got the best of the 2nd dog. Dog can't do his job when he/she is being restricted by a freaking leash!! Agreed, both dogs should have been released. It would have been a different story. Two would terrify me. That wouldnt last long before loss of bowels and arm. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:24:28 PM EDT
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Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they hit attack dogs during training? Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. I try to beat the shit out of my dog in training. Training is the time to test the dog. Not on the street. But mines not a WH dog. Midnight patrol here. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:26:30 PM EDT
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what kind of stupid a$$ handler leaves the leash on the dog and sends it in? I have to take back my criticism of 2nd dog on this one. I think he was doing his job and just got stuck with an idiot for a handler.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:29:24 PM EDT
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. You busy this Sunday? We have bite-work starting at 11.What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog? 
And the video is proof that one on one, the dog isn't much of a match to a man that doesn't cower in to a ball. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:29:29 PM EDT
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what kind of stupid a$$ handler leaves the leash on the dog and sends it in? I have to take back my criticism of 2nd dog on this one. I think he was doing his job and just got stuck with an idiot for a handler. A short working leash is pretty standard for sending the dog. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:31:19 PM EDT
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I try to beat the shit out of my dog in training. Training is the time to test the dog. Not on the street. But mines not a WH dog. Midnight patrol here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they hit attack dogs during training? Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. I try to beat the shit out of my dog in training. Training is the time to test the dog. Not on the street. But mines not a WH dog. Midnight patrol here. So you do full blown kicks to your dog and pick him up and throw him on to the ground? Right. Sure you do. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:31:54 PM EDT
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What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. You busy this Sunday? We have bite-work starting at 11.What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog? The plane ticket home.  Im sure its possible. Im just saying that out of 10 times you wont react fast enough or stop the dog most of the times and youll get bit. Im around Mals and Dutch Shepherds a lot and I know you can fight them off but without a suit you will bleed.
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:32:04 PM EDT
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what kind of stupid a$$ handler leaves the leash on the dog and sends it in? I have to take back my criticism of 2nd dog on this one. I think he was doing his job and just got stuck with an idiot for a handler. A short working leash is pretty standard for sending the dog. look at the video and you can see the long leash still on the dog with the handler tugging on it. I didn't notice it either till someone here pointed it out. The video was dark so hard to see but if you look close... sure at the world the handler has the 2nd dog on a long leash the entire time. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:33:02 PM EDT
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What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog?
And the video is proof that one on one, the dog isn't much of a match to a man that doesn't cower in to a ball. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. You busy this Sunday? We have bite-work starting at 11.What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog?
And the video is proof that one on one, the dog isn't much of a match to a man that doesn't cower in to a ball. I will pay money to see the video if you show ,..... I get the cut of your jib yes most humans are pussies BUT I am telling you that a good dog won't quit / disengage unless recalled the more you fight they more they fight and they have a lot of advantages vs a unarmed biped |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:33:13 PM EDT
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The plane ticket home. Im sure its possible. Im just saying that out of 10 times you wont react fast enough or stop the dog most of the times and youll get bit. Im around Mals and Dutch Shepherds a lot and I know you can fight them off but without a suit you will bleed.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any grown ass man should be able to defend himself successfully from a one on one german shepherd/Malinois attack when out in the open. The second you get scared is the second that the dog gets the upper hand. You busy this Sunday? We have bite-work starting at 11.What are the charges against me if I hurt the dog? The plane ticket home. Im sure its possible. Im just saying that out of 10 times you wont react fast enough or stop the dog most of the times and youll get bit. Im around Mals and Dutch Shepherds a lot and I know you can fight them off but without a suit you will bleed.I won't deny that, it's just the myth that "attack" dogs when it comes to med/large breed are some kind of unbeatable opponent. It's ridiculous. Again, this video is simple proof of that. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:33:22 PM EDT
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So you do full blown kicks to your dog and pick him up and throw him on to the ground? Right. Sure you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they hit attack dogs during training? Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. I try to beat the shit out of my dog in training. Training is the time to test the dog. Not on the street. But mines not a WH dog. Midnight patrol here. So you do full blown kicks to your dog and pick him up and throw him on to the ground? Right. Sure you do. Ok now youre trolling. You hit the dog with a bamboo stick to make noise and simulate an attack as well as hitting their sides, lifting them up by the tail etc. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:34:23 PM EDT
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So you do full blown kicks to your dog and pick him up and throw him on to the ground? Right. Sure you do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they hit attack dogs during training? Kinda sorta yes. There are a couple of professional trainers that frequent this forum and hopefully they chime in. They don't hit to injure if that is what you are asking. Or do full out body slams on dogs. I try to beat the shit out of my dog in training. Training is the time to test the dog. Not on the street. But mines not a WH dog. Midnight patrol here. So you do full blown kicks to your dog and pick him up and throw him on to the ground? Right. Sure you do. Yes I do. I hit him with chairs, signs, anything close. But keep telling me what I do and don't do with my dog. You're the expert here. |
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Posted: 10/23/2014 4:34:36 PM EDT
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Guy should have been shot especially after what happened in Canada earlier that day.
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