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Link Posted: 10/20/2014 8:47:49 PM EDT
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It is really hard to compare QBs honestly.

With different eras you have different advantages. Now the rules favor passers and receivers. However, back in the day there was no salary cap, meaning you could keep a better team together longer. Also, defensive players were smaller back then and the league was not so pass centric. A stud like Marino is going to stand out more when there fewer elite rivals. Go back far enough and roids were legal. Go back even farther and there are no black guys. How do you begin to factor in that?

Also, what stat counts the most? QBR, TDs, Passing YRDs, Wins, Playoff Wins, Super Bowls Wins?

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All of those.

I voted for Joe because of his winning record, but it would be interesting to see what Dan Marino could have done with a better supporting cast. I would say that he is absolutely the best QB to never win a Super Bowl.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Montana has my vote for the best, but I'd put several of the old timers ahead of the more recent guys listed.  Fran Tarkenton beats out Brees for a spot in the poll any day.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:00:56 PM EDT
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Anyone who doesn't say Joe Montana sucks cock by choice.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:03:01 PM EDT
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Montana has my vote for the best, but I'd put several of the old timers ahead of the more recent guys listed. Fran Tarkenton beats out Brees for a spot in the poll any day.
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Way ahead of his time.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:03:03 PM EDT
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You think you're going to get a rationale response to this in GD?  Look at the "manly things you don't like thread", nearly every post is "I hate sports".  Ask who the best world of Warcraft player of all time is and it'll probably go 100 pages.  Seriously a lot of freaks and geeks here.  And homos.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:04:02 PM EDT
[#6]
Montana
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:04:05 PM EDT
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You think you're going to get a rationale response to this in GD?  Look at the "manly things you don't like thread", nearly every post is "I hate sports".  Ask who the best world of Warcraft player of all time is and it'll probably go 100 pages.  Seriously a lot of freaks and geeks here.  And homos.
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Football threads on this site tend to be very popular.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:08:02 PM EDT
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Football is for pussies.  Texas Hold Em is where it's at.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:08:34 PM EDT
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Fail. You all fail.

Bradshaw has 4 rings.

Obviously he is the best,  yet not even on the poll.

Who's the 13'er now dummies?

Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:11:16 PM EDT
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When Joe Montana took the field , it was magic.

More importantly , he earned the respect of all.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:11:31 PM EDT
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I really think Brett Farve was the best
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Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:12:26 PM EDT
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Statistics may say otherwise, but Joe Montana was the best ever. No doubt in my mind!
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If Joe Montana played behind the Denver  
offense he wouldn't have survived the 1st quarter in the first game.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:13:12 PM EDT
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Joe Montana.

The fucking man.
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Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:14:16 PM EDT
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What about John Elway?  Manning has my vote.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Montana is the Emmitt Smith of the QB's, without his star studded team, he wouldnt even be in the conversation.

I really like Manning, granted he's won one ring, but he's a damn good choke artist.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:16:36 PM EDT
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Without a doubt, Peyton Manning.

Most touchdowns in a season.
Most touchdowns in a career.
2013 Broncos scored more points than any team in NFL history.

No contest.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:16:44 PM EDT
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Montana.

Bradshaw deserves to be on the list too
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:17:23 PM EDT
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Voted Montana, but he was throwing to the best receiver ever and had the best supporting cast in history.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:18:34 PM EDT
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There are more than a few posters here that genuinely feel that Tony Romo should be on the list
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:19:01 PM EDT
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Warren Moon
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:19:11 PM EDT
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What about John Elway?  Manning has my vote.
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I had him in there at first, but then I bumped him to add Drew Brees. LOL  Drew Brees has a much higher career passer rating, FWIW.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:21:45 PM EDT
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Pie. I don't really watch football.
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Just had to come here to tell us huh?
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:21:53 PM EDT
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Roger Staubach

"He attended the U.S. Naval Academy where he won a Heisman Trophy, and after graduation he served in the U.S. Navy, including a tour of duty in Vietnam.

Staubach joined the Dallas Cowboys in 1969. He played with the club during five seasons in which they played in the Super Bowl, four as the primary starting quarterback. He led the Cowboys to victories in Super Bowl VI and Super Bowl XII. Staubach was named Most Valuable Player of Super Bowl VI, becoming the first of four players to win both the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, along with Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen and Desmond Howard. He was named to the Pro Bowl six times during his 11-year NFL career."
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:22:47 PM EDT
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Without a doubt, Peyton Manning.

Most touchdowns in a season.
Most touchdowns in a career.
2013 Broncos scored more points than any team in NFL history.

No contest.
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But Joe Montana went to the big show 4 times, and won all 4, winning Super Bowl MVP in 3 of them.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:22:58 PM EDT
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Obviously, Phil Simms.
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He said best quarterback, not worst announcer.



 
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:27:17 PM EDT
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1. Joe Montana
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady

Joe was always cool under pressure and that goes a long way, IMO.

Also, who's to say his great supporting cast wasn't great because of him?  It's a two way street.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:29:55 PM EDT
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Joe Montana
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:32:39 PM EDT
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Roger Staubach

"He attended the U.S. Naval Academy where he won a Heisman Trophy, and after graduation he served in the U.S. Navy, including a tour of duty in Vietnam.

Staubach joined the Dallas Cowboys in 1969. He played with the club during five seasons in which they played in the Super Bowl, four as the primary starting quarterback. He led the Cowboys to victories in Super Bowl VI and Super Bowl XII. Staubach was named Most Valuable Player of Super Bowl VI, becoming the first of four players to win both the Heisman Trophy and Super Bowl MVP, along with Jim Plunkett, Marcus Allen and Desmond Howard. He was named to the Pro Bowl six times during his 11-year NFL career."
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Pure Class Act! (this from a skins fan)
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:34:23 PM EDT
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1. Joe Montana
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady

Joe was always cool under pressure and that goes a long way, IMO.

Also, who's to say his great supporting cast wasn't great because of him?  It's a two way street.
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The fact that Steve Young stepped right in lends creedance to the great cast.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:34:39 PM EDT
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Peyton Manning.  If Manning had Walsh or Belichick (and his video crew), this wouldn't be a discussion. Dungy,Caldwell, and Fox leaves much desired.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:35:21 PM EDT
[#31]
Johnny Football
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:36:31 PM EDT
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How the hell does Steve ko'ed Young get in the poll without Elway?
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:36:36 PM EDT
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Other: Football is gay
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:36:47 PM EDT
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Staubach #1
Favre #2 No one else is close, the guy never had anyone elite around him aside from Sterling Sharpe for a short time, he simply elevated everyone around him, he was asked to carry what was always a mediocre team, the Packers would have never been winners without him, take away Rodgers you still have a competitive team, he's not elite.  The back up Flynn that wasn't good enough to make a NFL ROSTER on any other team puts up bigger numbers than him.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:37:20 PM EDT
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Steve Young was a great quarterback, not like he was some shrub they threw in there!  

He dethroned Montana and then Montana went to KC and took a hapless team to the playoffs.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:38:04 PM EDT
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No votes for Kirk Cousins?


Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:38:35 PM EDT
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As for the greatest - Sid Luckman
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Close, but I say Otto Graham. Browns QB won the NFL Championship in their first year in the league. Name another NFL QB who did that?
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:39:18 PM EDT
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John Fourcade, for 3 games in 1989.

Then Peyton.

Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:39:28 PM EDT
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Steve Young was a great quarterback, not like he was some shrub they threw in there!  

He dethroned Montana and then Montana went to KC and took a hapless team to the playoffs.
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   Better than Elway?
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:39:57 PM EDT
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Steve Young was a great quarterback, not like he was some shrub they threw in there!  
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No debate that he wasnt. To litterly plug another guy in, even as good as the replacement is, does indicate that there was a solid supporting cast present


And manning has recovered from massive surgeries and taken the broncos to super bowl in 2 years.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:40:02 PM EDT
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Anyone who doesn't say Joe Montana sucks cock by choice.
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Ironic that Montanna played in SanFran, homo capital of the world.....................    
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:40:37 PM EDT
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Here we go.

No way you can compare the different generations with all the rule changes today that are pro offense and limit the defense.

Are we talking best of all time due to stats? The quarterbacks of the last few years are putting up video game like numbers. What a joke. Or are we tasking championships? Then hands down its Otto Graham. He's not even listed on your poll.

Poll fail.

Aaron Rodgers listed. Not Brett Favre?
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:41:36 PM EDT
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Montana!!!!
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:41:37 PM EDT
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No debate that he wasnt. To litterly plug another guy in, even as good as the replacement is, does indicate that there was a solid supporting cast present
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Steve Young was a great quarterback, not like he was some shrub they threw in there!  



No debate that he wasnt. To litterly plug another guy in, even as good as the replacement is, does indicate that there was a solid supporting cast present

 The best $$ could buy.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:42:01 PM EDT
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Doug flutie
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:42:07 PM EDT
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But Joe Montana went to the big show 4 times, and won all 4, winning Super Bowl MVP in 3 of them.
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Bart Starr won more championships than Montanna..................
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:42:15 PM EDT
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No debate that he wasnt. To litterly plug another guy in, even as good as the replacement is, does indicate that there was a solid supporting cast present
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Steve Young was a great quarterback, not like he was some shrub they threw in there!  



No debate that he wasnt. To litterly plug another guy in, even as good as the replacement is, does indicate that there was a solid supporting cast present


There was a great supporting cast, no doubt, but that doesn't negate that Montana was great.
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:43:00 PM EDT
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Here we go.

No way you can compare the different generations with all the rule changes today that are pro offense and limit the defense.

Are we talking best of all time due to stats? The quarterbacks of the last few years are putting up video game like numbers. What a joke. Or are we tasking championships? Then hands down its Otto Graham. He's not even listed on your poll.

Poll fail.

Aaron Rodgers listed. Not Brett Favre?
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  Rule changes?   Do tell
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:44:12 PM EDT
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Tom Brady
Link Posted: 10/20/2014 9:44:24 PM EDT
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Montana
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