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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:41:13 AM EDT
[#1]
How about, NO!
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:43:34 AM EDT
[#2]
You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross?
Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:44:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross? Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! AIDS charity? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:44:36 AM EDT
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That's a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, bad idea.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:45:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross? Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! Give money. They can keep the gay blood. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:46:03 AM EDT
[#6]
I've never donated blood so I don't know how it works, but can't they just say they aren't gay?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:46:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never donated blood so I don't know how it works, but can't they just say they aren't gay? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:02 AM EDT
[#9]
Heck NO!
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:07 AM EDT
[#10]
Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:47:57 AM EDT
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Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? You repeat yourself. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:48:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:48:34 AM EDT
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Give money. They can keep the gay blood. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross?
Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! Give money. They can keep the gay blood. That was a quick edit. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:48:35 AM EDT
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No, they have gaydar installed at the red cross entrances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never donated blood so I don't know how it works, but can't they just say they aren't gay? lol'd |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:49:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was a quick edit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross? Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! Give money. They can keep the gay blood. That was a quick edit.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:50:12 AM EDT
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I've never donated blood so I don't know how it works, but can't they just say they aren't gay? They do test for AIDS and if you ever test positive,then you are bared for life. But it can take 6 months after infection for a person with AIDS to show up as positive. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:51:13 AM EDT
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Yeah I don't feel so hot about an outright ban on gay men giving blood, but the numbers justify the reason for me.
From CDC's website: Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young gay and bisexual men (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all gay and bisexual men. At the end of 2010, an estimated 489,121 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were gay and bisexual men, or gay and bisexual men who also inject drugs. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html I don't know what the testing process is for donated blood before a transfusion, but any time the lab techs spend trying to test for extra diseases in the blood is just that much fewer resources that actually get to the people that need it. There are a whole hell of a lot of reasons you can be denied for the donation of blood, but since it's a donation, you can't force somebody to accept a donation they don't want. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:51:36 AM EDT
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Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? Considering gay people only make up 1.6% of the population it simply isn't worth the higher risk of contaminating the supply. Cost-benefit and all that. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:51:53 AM EDT
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i guess they are in favor of letting child molesters volunteer at preschools too? fucking idiots. no thanks, i'd rather not get aids
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:53:29 AM EDT
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Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? They only test for a handfull of diseases. There are many known diseases that they do NOT test for and probably many more that have not been discovered yet. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:53:34 AM EDT
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Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? Men who have sex with men (MSM) are the #2 highest lifestyle risk category for HIV/AIDS, after intravenous drug use. ETA: I stand corrected. Apparently, MSM-ers are at greater risk than junkies. Detection methods are better now than they were decades ago, yes, but are you going to test the entire donation or just a small sample? It's possible to miss if the donor has recently contracted the disease and cell density is not very high. And of course this is a donor with a significant, statistical-based risk factor. I don't care if you're gay, but it's not worth the risk to other people to go sharing blood with them. If you want to help, there are plenty of other ways. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:53:37 AM EDT
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Considering gay people only make up 1.6% of the population it simply isn't worth the higher risk of contaminating the supply. Cost-benefit and all that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is blood from gay people untestable for diseases or are you all afraid of transferring the gay? Considering gay people only make up 1.6% of the population it simply isn't worth the higher risk of contaminating the supply. Cost-benefit and all that. Same reason they don't let people who lived in Scotland during a certain time period donate blood. Which, if I recall correctly, has a lower chance of contaminating the blood supply that a gay donation of blood would. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:54:15 AM EDT
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i guess they are in favor of letting child molesters volunteer at preschools too? fucking idiots. no thanks, i'd rather not get aids Ya thats the same thing. Carry on. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:54:41 AM EDT
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i guess they are in favor of letting child molesters volunteer at preschools too? fucking idiots. no thanks, i'd rather not get aids Gay does not equal child molester. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:55:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:55:25 AM EDT
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They can't reproduce sexually, so they want to spread gayness by tainting the blood supply. Go into the hospital for an appendectomy, get some blood...BOOM! Come out an interior decorator.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:55:59 AM EDT
[#27]
Keep the ban in place until assholes like me who lived too long in Western Europe can donate blood.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:57:21 AM EDT
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Seems like a really bad idea to me, but special snowflakes only think the fda and red cross are being mean and descriminating. petition to remove ban on gays donating Well a petition seems like a great way to set public health policy. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:57:29 AM EDT
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Let them donate their blood straight to the trash can. But enforcement is impossible. Not like we have Gay detectors. Besides the completely mental ones, that is.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:58:02 AM EDT
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Anyone seen recent data on infectious diseases in gay men?
I know that a lot of them are really complete whores (?) who think nothing of pulling a train on a Saturday night. AIDS testing has got better but Hep C, Syphilis and God knows what else are out there, contaminated blood does not mean HIV only. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:58:20 AM EDT
[#31]
Why not let fag junkies donate, too???
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:00:44 AM EDT
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Anyone seen recent data on infectious diseases in gay men? I know that a lot of them are really complete whores (?) who think nothing of pulling a train on a Saturday night. AIDS testing has got better but Hep C, Syphilis and God knows what else are out there, contaminated blood does not mean HIV only. Signal & Noise, book by Nate Silver, had an interesting bit of data on that. Fear of HIV led to a drop in promiscuity. It seems, however, that gay men have started hooking up based on HIV status. So positives will look for other positives, and negatives for negatives. The spread of HIV drops, but other STDs are unaffected. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:00:51 AM EDT
[#33]
Put their donated blood in jars marked "Gay Blood - for Gays Only".
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:01:32 AM EDT
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How about, NO! |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:01:47 AM EDT
[#35]
Why can't they mark that blood? I would not want it.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:02:43 AM EDT
[#36]
This makes no sense... Lesbian Gay or Male Gay? Don't they already ask something about kinds of sexual activity?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:02:57 AM EDT
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Signal & Noise, book by Nate Silver, had an interesting bit of data on that. Fear of HIV led to a drop in promiscuity. It seems, however, that gay men have started hooking up based on HIV status. So positives will look for other positives, and negatives for negatives. The spread of HIV drops, but other STDs are unaffected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone seen recent data on infectious diseases in gay men? I know that a lot of them are really complete whores (?) who think nothing of pulling a train on a Saturday night. AIDS testing has got better but Hep C, Syphilis and God knows what else are out there, contaminated blood does not mean HIV only. Signal & Noise, book by Nate Silver, had an interesting bit of data on that. Fear of HIV led to a drop in promiscuity. It seems, however, that gay men have started hooking up based on HIV status. So positives will look for other positives, and negatives for negatives. The spread of HIV drops, but other STDs are unaffected. There's dating sites specifically for AIDS infected people. I think one is called Positive Singles or something? The whole concept weirds me the fuck out. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:03:00 AM EDT
[#38]
You receive gay blood and you will TURN.
Don't let'em bite you either….it's just like zombies. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:03:46 AM EDT
[#39]
Why cant they donate? I dont get it.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:04:18 AM EDT
[#40]
Or, they could just...I don't know...lie.
What a dumb "ban". I presume the blood is tested, given that some people...I don't know...lie. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:04:25 AM EDT
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I am very in favor of equal rights for people...heck I even am fine with gay marriage. But donating blood, I've got problems with that.
If you look at the CDC stats for HIV/AIDS the very fast majority are gay/bi men. The very vast majority of new infections are gay/bi men. You couple this with the fact that time and time again these places that handle donated blood do a piss poor job of testing the blood and you've got a disaster waiting to happen. I am completely in favor of preventing gays from donating blood. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:05:32 AM EDT
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I think it's supposed to be more about letting lots of dudes jizz in your butt hole. I think anyone that does that would probably be a poor choice for a blood donor.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:05:57 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why cant they donate? I dont get it. Red Cross uses at risk groups exclusion as a form of screening to protect the blood supply. This may be outdated, I'm not sure. Does homosexuality have a higher rate of infectious disease associated with it? I know they did years back, not sure if that has changed.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:06:00 AM EDT
[#44]
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You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross?
Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! Ya, and IV drug users, men who frequent prostitutes, prostitutes, women who have sex w/ men that have sex w/ men, and people likely to be exposed to other blood born diseases due to geographical influences and vocational pursuits should be encouraged to "donate" as well. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:07:33 AM EDT
[#45]
Maybe we could come up with some kind of gay background check.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:08:39 AM EDT
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Why can't they mark that blood? I would not want it. If it was a matter of life or death, would you still not take it? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:09:43 AM EDT
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Signal & Noise, book by Nate Silver, had an interesting bit of data on that. Fear of HIV led to a drop in promiscuity. It seems, however, that gay men have started hooking up based on HIV status. So positives will look for other positives, and negatives for negatives. The spread of HIV drops, but other STDs are unaffected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone seen recent data on infectious diseases in gay men? I know that a lot of them are really complete whores (?) who think nothing of pulling a train on a Saturday night. AIDS testing has got better but Hep C, Syphilis and God knows what else are out there, contaminated blood does not mean HIV only. Signal & Noise, book by Nate Silver, had an interesting bit of data on that. Fear of HIV led to a drop in promiscuity. It seems, however, that gay men have started hooking up based on HIV status. So positives will look for other positives, and negatives for negatives. The spread of HIV drops, but other STDs are unaffected. The problem with that is there are many strains of AIDS and the more strains that one has, the more difficult survival is.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:10:55 AM EDT
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Or, they could just...I don't know...lie.
What a dumb "ban". I presume the blood is tested, given that some people...I don't know...lie. You can't be "out and proud" if you are forced to lie. Forced. 
Given the months-long period between HIV infection and testing positive, and given the numbers of homosexual men who are infected, this is a ridiculous notion. Spread the misery--so typical these days.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:12:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:13:24 AM EDT
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Ya, and IV drug users, men who frequent prostitutes, prostitutes, women who have sex w/ men that have sex w/ men, and people likely to be exposed to other blood born diseases due to geographical influences and vocational pursuits should be encouraged to "donate" as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You are mad at "special snowflakes" for wanting to make donations to the Red Cross?
Oh the horror! What charity will they demand to give to next?! Ya, and IV drug users, men who frequent prostitutes, prostitutes, women who have sex w/ men that have sex w/ men, and people likely to be exposed to other blood born diseases due to geographical influences and vocational pursuits should be encouraged to "donate" as well. At one time those people were banned too.
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