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Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:14 AM EDT
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Russia just moved new SA's to the Ukraine border... I can't remember which but it was a few days ago....

Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:16 AM EDT
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damn
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:37 AM EDT
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According to FlightAware it was level at 33,000 feet.   Other than a jet, what ground-based asset could shoot it down that would be in that area?
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some of the bigger SAMs....

Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:37 AM EDT
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Shit......

Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:45 AM EDT
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Why do the Russians always target Asian planes? First the Koreans, and now the Malaysians.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:37:53 AM EDT
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Sanctions are working
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:38:03 AM EDT
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Manpads.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:38:12 AM EDT
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Is losing about 500 people per several million traveled a bad ratio?  Is the J.D. Power award in danger for M.A.?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:38:14 AM EDT
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In before the wreckage disappears and ends up as another Malaysian Airline missing flight.



See you on page 300.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:38:28 AM EDT
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Ok, time for theories.

Hijacking, bomb on board.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:38:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:04 AM EDT
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this site shows the flight as canceled?
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17/
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:07 AM EDT
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What are the odds if the Russians did this that they are trying to secure the site with their military forces in the area and the black boxes may not be found?



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Yep. It'll be a "mystery" for all times.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:11 AM EDT
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This gonna be a shit storm.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:13 AM EDT
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Myroslava Petsa ?@myroslavapetsa  46s
Here's a screenshot of #Strelkov's diaries FB post saying rebels shot down An-26 near Torez

Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:14 AM EDT
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Short in the wiring in a fuel tank.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:18 AM EDT
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It's a bad ratio if it's your or your relatives/friends the the plane
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:20 AM EDT
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Yup, it's fo time.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:42 AM EDT
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Too much altitude for manpads.



They shot down a Ukranian SU-25 yesterday.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:54 AM EDT
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Tag.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:56 AM EDT
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In on less than page 5!!!!
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This will be interesting.....
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:39:59 AM EDT
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"analyst" on CNN saying at that altitude it would most likely have been air to air.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:07 AM EDT
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LoL, you think I made a 'mistake' ?  

Ya know me better than that (yes I read the nukes thread. Got ya )
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:16 AM EDT
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Sanctions are working
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People are freaking out on how to give the Russians more money check all the AK threads.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:20 AM EDT
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Nvm
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:21 AM EDT
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Hmmm...
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:28 AM EDT
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Obama's response will be to ban imports of all Russian ammo.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:43 AM EDT
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According to FlightAware it was level at 33,000 feet.   Other than a jet, what ground-based asset could shoot it down that would be in that area?




"analyst" on CNN saying at that altitude it would most likely have been air to air.




 
That would be "interesting"!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:43 AM EDT
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Obama is going on vacation. We will have to wait for our fearless leader to get back to know what is going on.
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If it's not in the papers, we know more than he does at this point.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:54 AM EDT
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After reading the following article I wonder if both sides are shooting anything flying.

Article
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:40:54 AM EDT
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Russian Dragons?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:12 AM EDT
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Myroslava Petsa ?@myroslavapetsa  46s
Here's a screenshot of #Strelkov's diaries FB post saying rebels shot down An-26 near Torez

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I can see how they'd get an An-26 mixed up with a 777. After a couple of vodkas they look exactly alike.

An-26


Boeing 777
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:18 AM EDT
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Note to self:  Never fly anywhere close to where Russia is having a 'disagreement' with one of its former client states.
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Yep. There is no freaking way work can convince me anymore to go to Hungary for product support. Fuck that.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:18 AM EDT
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In to see where this goes.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:27 AM EDT
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"analyst" on CNN saying at that altitude it would most likely have been air to air.

  That would be "interesting"!!


There are SAMs perfectly capable of this
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:38 AM EDT
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Not a MANPAD at that altitude.  SA-10 or 11, maybe?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:41:59 AM EDT
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Not new for the Russians.
They did this in the 80's to a Vietnamese passenger plane.
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South Korean
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:42:23 AM EDT
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LoL, you think I made a 'mistake' ?  

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I should have known better. No European is as bad at English as the average American arfcommer.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:42:42 AM EDT
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To be confirmed, a plane from MALAYSIA AIRLINES shot near Ukrainian Russian border #Ukraine #russia
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one of hilary's missiles?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:42:58 AM EDT
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PzFeed Top News ?@PzFeed  12m
BREAKING NEWS: MALAYSIAN JET SHOT DOWN BY BUK MISSILE SYSTEM - INTERFAX.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:09 AM EDT
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Reuters is reporting that it was shot down.

ETA:  Looks like they backed off that report.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:15 AM EDT
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You mean Korean?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:32 AM EDT
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You're late to the party.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:35 AM EDT
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"analyst" on CNN saying at that altitude it would most likely have been air to air.




He's an idiot.

The Soviets have plenty of SAMs with that kind of reach.

Gary Powers
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:45 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:58 AM EDT
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Any chance we just found the missing 777?
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:43:59 AM EDT
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Reporter Chuck  on Fox assumes that the flight traveling at 21,000 feet could have been shot down by a shoulder fired missile.




Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:44:21 AM EDT
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I can see how they'd get an An-26 mixed up with a 777. After a couple of vodkas they look exactly alike.

An-26
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Lithuanian_Air_Force_Antonov_AN-26_%2804%29.jpg

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Boeing_777_above_clouds,_crop.jpg
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Here's a screenshot of #Strelkov's diaries FB post saying rebels shot down An-26 near Torez

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BswYI3ACMAEMNtQ.png


I can see how they'd get an An-26 mixed up with a 777. After a couple of vodkas they look exactly alike.

An-26
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Lithuanian_Air_Force_Antonov_AN-26_%2804%29.jpg

Boeing 777
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Boeing_777_above_clouds,_crop.jpg


Through the bottom of a vodka bottle, they look pretty similar.
Link Posted: 7/17/2014 7:44:24 AM EDT
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this site shows the flight as canceled?
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By a SAM...
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