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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:47:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:50:50 PM EDT
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overrated |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:51:48 PM EDT
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overrated Disagree. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:56:57 PM EDT
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overrated Disagree. Disagree. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:57:58 PM EDT
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Disagree.
Not a big fan of grunge, but this is a great album. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:58:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2014 9:59:42 PM EDT
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overrated They killed the hair bands, for that I am forever grateful! I listened to Nevermind for the first time in 20 years a few months back. It brought back a lot of memories from that time. Cobain was no Vai, Petrucci or Lifeson but the guy played with his heart and you could hear it in his playing. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:00:09 PM EDT
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overrated Disagree. Disagree. I never understood the fascination. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:29:58 PM EDT
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Love them or hate them, they ushered in a new era... a much needed new era.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:38:03 PM EDT
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overrated Disagree. Yep. They were explosive when Nevermind came out. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:39:12 PM EDT
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Love them or hate them, they ushered in a new era... a much needed new era. +1. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 10:41:31 PM EDT
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I love this album....
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:03:38 PM EDT
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I'm drunk but am I the only one that clicked on this thread and it was something about FICO score?? |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:07:08 PM EDT
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overrated No. |
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:08:03 PM EDT
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I remember 20+ years ago driving many many hours to go see flipper and even though we meant to get their late to just see them, we got there early enough to see nirvana opening for them and was simply blown away. Amazing band.
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Posted: 4/17/2014 11:53:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:08:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I never understood the fascination. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:19:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:20:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like you have a closed mind to musical talent. How does someone's opinion on one band indicate their ability to perceive talent in all forms of music? There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. WTF is the music hall of fame? How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? Is that the criteria we're using to have an opinion in this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. WTF is the music hall of fame? How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? Is that the criteria we're using to have an opinion in this thread? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 12:21:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2014 1:11:46 AM EDT
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How were you when they hit the scene and where did you live? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood the fascination. Don't know. When did they hit the scene? I was either in my mid to late 20s living in rural Nebr. or early to mid 30s and living in rural Colo. All hail Southern Rock! 
Just about every band will release two or three songs I like and I remember they were no different in that respect but I couldn't name those songs now. The previous statement that they changes music away from the 80s hairbands could be made. Music did go through a change about that time frame. Was it Nirvana that caused the change or did they just lead the way? I'm sure either side could put up a strong argument. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 1:13:50 AM EDT
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I liked it.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 2:05:21 AM EDT
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Loved em back in the day. They still slip into the playlist here and there.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 2:12:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt took many years after it's release for me to appreciate that entire album but it's one of the best from that era. Borderline masterpiece |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:16:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How were you when they hit the scene and where did you live? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I never understood the fascination.  Still at home, I turned 16 in the fall of 91. Although at that time, I had already been listening to metal and hard rock, so when it did come out it was something that I put in the didn't mind category meaning I didn't necessarily run out to listen too it, but when I heard it otherwise I enjoyed it. Although for me the genre lasted about 18 months or so until a friend introduced me to punk/HC and I spend a few years going to those shows on a weekly and sometimes a few times a week  |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 4:19:05 AM EDT
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Great cassette!
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:33:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like you have a closed mind to musical talent. There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in?  |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:29:09 AM EDT
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I never understood the fascination. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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overrated Disagree. Disagree. I never understood the fascination. Agree. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:06:54 AM EDT
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I thought we were talking about a state of being
The band sucked! |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:09:16 AM EDT
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Where's the "they suck major camel dick" option?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:12:15 AM EDT
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They were ok, I like the Foo Fighters way better though.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:14:36 AM EDT
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overrated Disagree. Disagree. Agree. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:21:58 AM EDT
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Dave Grohl was the most talented member of the band.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:28:23 AM EDT
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More like you have a closed mind to musical talent. There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? That's like saying because we're not supermodels, we can't comment on the beauty of others. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:32:30 AM EDT
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Dave Grohl was the most talented member of the band. This is fact! |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:32:31 AM EDT
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Dave Grohl was the most talented member of the band. ooops double tap |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:38:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's like saying because we're not supermodels, we can't comment on the beauty of others. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? That's like saying because we're not supermodels, we can't comment on the beauty of others. He's an anonymous face on the internet saying a certain band is over rated. His opinion is worth exactly zero to anyone, anywhere ever. Just like mine. Maybe if he was a somebody, it would. Plus, that's a terrible analogy which is typical for arfcom, as you've seen a lot of the ugly bitches and transvestites arfcomers put up and call hot... |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:48:14 AM EDT
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Loved them back in the day. Listen to old RHCP more these days.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:51:17 AM EDT
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I love Nirvana. I don't understand why people flip out about them as if they can't play their instruments. Sure, Kurt Cobain isn't Steve Vai, but he makes great music, and he's easily as good as a guy who arfcom generally likes, such as Johnny Ramone.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:53:05 AM EDT
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overrated Well, ask someone that doesn't care to name a 70's punk band, they'll say the Sex Pistols. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:57:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love Nirvana. I don't understand why people flip out about them as if they can't play their instruments. Sure, Kurt Cobain isn't Steve Vai, but he makes great music, and he's easily as good as a guy who arfcom generally likes, such as Johnny Ramone. 1. They were too popular (and still are). As much as arfcom hates "hipsters", they ironically share many of the same traits in music threads. 2. Nirvana is widely credited with killing a sub-genre of rock music...a sub-genre of rock music that is fondly remembered by the largest group of members by age on arfcom, namely those who came of age sometime in the 1980's. Personally? I like the band. They're not in my top 10 or anything, but they were are good band. They were definitely an important band.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:58:01 AM EDT
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If you watch the MTV Unplugged session from 1993, you can see they were very talented.
Cobain might have been a drug-addled buffoon, and the music isn't for everyone, but they definitely were good. Same for Pearl Jam. Eddie Vedder might a a liberal douche-bag, but the MTV Unplugged concert is amazing. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:58:53 AM EDT
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Dave Grohl was the most talented member of the band. Hardly. The difference between Nirvana and Foo Fighters is the difference between art and plain music. Besides, Foo FIghters would be jack and shit without the Nirvana name recognition. Kurt Cobain pretty much singlehandedly created his own sound and rose from a garage band to one of the biggest rock acts of all time. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:01:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Credibility. He's an anonymous face on the internet saying a certain band is over rated. His opinion is worth exactly zero to anyone, anywhere ever. Just like mine. Maybe if he was a somebody, it would. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? That's like saying because we're not supermodels, we can't comment on the beauty of others. He's an anonymous face on the internet saying a certain band is over rated. His opinion is worth exactly zero to anyone, anywhere ever. Just like mine. Maybe if he was a somebody, it would. Actually your post reply to my post put YOUR credibility even below mine. "music hall of fame" - there is no such thing. Ding, there goes your credibility. Ad hominem attack on my experience forming "genre forming bands". Ding, another loss to your credibility when you have to resort to ad hominem attacks. Comparing my credibility to yours and saying my credibility is "just like" yours. Ding, another drop in your credibility because you hypocritically think I'm closed-minded and imply that you're more open-minded than me, hence, your opinion is better than mine. Oh, and it's not just me saying it: musicians we asked to nominate the supposedly great records they'd gladly never hear again Nirvana, Nevermind Nominated by Wayne Coyne of the Flaming Lips It's better to be overrated than underrated. Besides, it's not the musicians' fault Nevermind is overrated - it's the public's, or the critics'. But you don't find yourself ever longing to listen to it, because there were - still are, in fact - so many mediocre bands that sound like it, that you're constantly experiencing it. I never get out Nevermind and think: what great production, what great songs. Nevermind had a poisonous, pernicious influence. It legitimised suffering. The sainthood of Kurt Cobain overshadows the album: Kurt's lyrics, his attitudinising and navel-gazing, were hard to separate from the band's image. You can never just hear the record. For me, Bleach and In Utero are superior. Even the album cover seems cheap: that stupid dollar bill just seems to have been airbrushed in there. If Alice in Chains had done it, we'd have thought it was a joke, but because it was Nirvana we thought it was oh-so-clever. If you think you're going to hear an utterly original, powerful and freaky record when you put on Nevermind, as a young kid might, Christ you're going to be disappointed. You're going to think, "Who is this band that sounds just like Nickelback? What are these drug addicts going on about?" |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:01:22 AM EDT
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There are two things working against them, as far as arfcom is concerned: 1. They were too popular (and still are). As much as arfcom hates "hipsters", they ironically share many of the same traits in music threads. 2. Nirvana is widely credited with killing a sub-genre of rock music...a sub-genre of rock music that is fondly remembered by the largest group of members by age on arfcom, namely those who came of age sometime in the 1980's. Personally? I like the band. They're not in my top 10 or anything, but they were are good band. They were definitely an important band. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I love Nirvana. I don't understand why people flip out about them as if they can't play their instruments. Sure, Kurt Cobain isn't Steve Vai, but he makes great music, and he's easily as good as a guy who arfcom generally likes, such as Johnny Ramone. 1. They were too popular (and still are). As much as arfcom hates "hipsters", they ironically share many of the same traits in music threads. 2. Nirvana is widely credited with killing a sub-genre of rock music...a sub-genre of rock music that is fondly remembered by the largest group of members by age on arfcom, namely those who came of age sometime in the 1980's. Personally? I like the band. They're not in my top 10 or anything, but they were are good band. They were definitely an important band. I can see that, I suppose. I think it's a matter of not understanding what makes music "art" vs just playing. You don't have to do hammer-ons and sweep arpeggios at mach fuck to be a good guitarist. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:02:22 AM EDT
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overrated This. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:04:38 AM EDT
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"It's better to be overrated than underrated. Besides, it's not the musicians' fault Nevermind is overrated - it's the public's, or the critics'. But you don't find yourself ever longing to listen to it, because there were - still are, in fact - so many mediocre bands that sound like it, that you're constantly experiencing it. I never get out Nevermind and think: what great production, what great songs. Nevermind had a poisonous, pernicious influence. It legitimised suffering. The sainthood of Kurt Cobain overshadows the album: Kurt's lyrics, his attitudinising and navel-gazing, were hard to separate from the band's image. You can never just hear the record. For me, Bleach and In Utero are superior. Even the album cover seems cheap: that stupid dollar bill just seems to have been airbrushed in there. If Alice in Chains had done it, we'd have thought it was a joke, but because it was Nirvana we thought it was oh-so-clever. If you think you're going to hear an utterly original, powerful and freaky record when you put on Nevermind, as a young kid might, Christ you're going to be disappointed. You're going to think, "Who is this band that sounds just like Nickelback? What are these drug addicts going on about?" If Nickleback ever makes a song like Territorial Pissings, let me know. That comes off like a smug hipster review. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:04:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:snip Guess I don't care about what you think nearly as much as I thought I did. *pops smoke* |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:11:10 AM EDT
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Credibility. He's an anonymous face on the internet saying a certain band is over rated. His opinion is worth exactly zero to anyone, anywhere ever. Just like mine. Maybe if he was a somebody, it would. Plus, that's a terrible analogy which is typical for arfcom, as you've seen a lot of the ugly bitches and transvestites arfcomers put up and call hot... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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overrated There's a reason they have been inducted into the music hall of fame. How many genre forming/ genre killing bands have you been in? That's like saying because we're not supermodels, we can't comment on the beauty of others. He's an anonymous face on the internet saying a certain band is over rated. His opinion is worth exactly zero to anyone, anywhere ever. Just like mine. Maybe if he was a somebody, it would. Plus, that's a terrible analogy which is typical for arfcom, as you've seen a lot of the ugly bitches and transvestites arfcomers put up and call hot... It's his opinion. He can say whatever he wants as it's his opinion. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:18:31 AM EDT
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I dont't always listen to Nirvana, but when I do, I prefer Bleach.
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