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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:48:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:49:07 PM EDT
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Dude with the helmet cam, came close to shooting a fellow officer.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:50:39 PM EDT
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I guess tag.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:52:06 PM EDT
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there's no way that shoot is justified.
looks pretty bad to me. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:52:49 PM EDT
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I shall refrain from judgement on this one.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:54:28 PM EDT
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yikes
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:56:11 PM EDT
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I shall refrain from judgement on this one. ^ Guess I should have put this in my first post. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:56:14 PM EDT
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there's no way that shoot is justified. looks pretty bad to me. It looks really bad, especially since he turned to run...however, he pulled the knife out with a bunch of guys pointing guns at him. He clearly had bad intentions towards them. they shot about the time he turned to run. All that said, this is going to be a huge shitstorm. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:56:43 PM EDT
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Looks like they did not give the less than lethal option any real time to work, FB, taser and right to live fire despite the distance between them.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:58:09 PM EDT
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The Police Chiefs Justification
"Chief Eden said officers fired because Boyd made a direct threat at the canine officer who was unarmed." |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 9:58:27 PM EDT
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Cameras give false sense of distance but it looks like they could have held off for a bit since he was well covered but hey, I wasn't there.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:00:52 PM EDT
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It looks really bad, especially since he turned to run...however, he pulled the knife out with a bunch of guys pointing guns at him. He clearly had bad intentions towards them. they shot about the time he turned to run. All that said, this is going to be a huge shitstorm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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there's no way that shoot is justified. looks pretty bad to me. It looks really bad, especially since he turned to run...however, he pulled the knife out with a bunch of guys pointing guns at him. He clearly had bad intentions towards them. they shot about the time he turned to run. All that said, this is going to be a huge shitstorm. I didn't get that feeling from the actions or the dialogue in the video. Interesting how geared up they were for an "illegal" homeless camper, so that could indicate A) the illegal homeless camper was a serious threat (maybe an ex-delta seal recon ranger trained in martial knife killing techniques) or B) Bought it so gotta use it as much as possible. I have a feeling it won't be long until these deployed cops stop wearing hero pros or having technical difficulties with the recordings when FOIA requests arrive. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:04:58 PM EDT
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sigh
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:06:25 PM EDT
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Happened about 10 minutes from my house. APD has a history of shoot first, ask questions later attitudes. They are currently under invesitgation for killing many other "suspects." This one is not helping them.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:07:11 PM EDT
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ok, I can mabey understand the initial shooting (hypothetically, after hearing the full story)
but laying in that position on the ground he was no immediate danger to the officers as long as they kept their distance. they had a huge advantage over him if he were to try anything. was he even still alive at the point that they were shooting him with bean bags and sendig the dog to tear his ass up? |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:07:40 PM EDT
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Not sure what the circumstances were prior to the footage, but the guy seemed to articulate that he didn't want any trouble. He wasn't a knife wielding, raving lunatic, as far as I could tell. As it stands, I have to call, "bad shoot". In any event, if this guy has any family, I'm sure this won't simply go away. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:09:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:09:51 PM EDT
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If that's justifiable then laws need to be changed.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:12:12 PM EDT
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Not sure what the circumstances were prior to the footage, but the guy seemed to articulate that he didn't want any trouble. He wasn't a knife wielding, raving lunatic, as far as I could tell. As it stands, I have to call, "bad shoot". In any event, if this guy has any family, I'm sure this won't simply go away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure what the circumstances were prior to the footage, but the guy seemed to articulate that he didn't want any trouble. He wasn't a knife wielding, raving lunatic, as far as I could tell. As it stands, I have to call, "bad shoot". In any event, if this guy has any family, I'm sure this won't simply go away. I concur. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:13:07 PM EDT
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If that's justifiable then laws need to be changed. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:14:16 PM EDT
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:15:25 PM EDT
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Was that in the Middle East?
Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:18:48 PM EDT
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Was that in the Middle East? Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Was that in the Middle East? Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... Go back in your wormhole. Boyd was arguing with police for more three hours last Sunday in the foothills after officers went to talk to him about illegally camping in open space.
At the press conference Friday, Chief Eden released video of the moment officers first contacted Boyd. When one officer went to frisk Boyd, the homeless camper could then be heard refusing to comply saying he was a government agent. The video shows that Boyd continued to refuse officer commands and began threatening them. “I’m almost going to kill you right now. Don’t give me another directive. Don’t attempt to give me, the Department of Defense, another directive,” said Boyd at the beginning of the incident. As the hours passed, Chief Eden said an APD Crisis Intervention Team officer and a State Police liaison were called to the scene. Both attempted to speak with Boyd, however, Chief Eden says Boyd continued to threaten officers. Police also discovered that Boyd had a violent 20-year criminal history that included multiple incidents of violence against officers. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:18:55 PM EDT
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Was that in the Middle East? Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... Just google Albuquerque Police shooting and you'll get more than your share of videos and stories of "questionable" shoots. Granted the area isn't great but the PD here is out of control. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:19:48 PM EDT
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If that's justifiable then laws need to be changed. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that in the Middle East? Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... Looks like a video from Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:20:59 PM EDT
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If that's justifiable then laws need to be changed. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:22:38 PM EDT
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Why is SWAT out there dealing with a homeless guy that is illegally camping?
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:22:45 PM EDT
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Cop with AR fired once guy turned, bad reaction and trigger hungry. This could have been resolved much more efficiently. Bad Shoot!
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:25:03 PM EDT
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Cop with AR fired once guy turned, bad reaction and trigger hungry. This could have been resolved much more efficiently. Bad Shoot! And then Suppressor Cop put three more in him for good measure. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:26:03 PM EDT
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Wow, looks like he was turning to get on the ground...
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:26:30 PM EDT
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Looks like a video from Afghanistan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was that in the Middle East? Was the suspect a terrorist or something? Oh I forgot that the local PD needs to be wearing SWAT gear every time they need to make contact with a camper... Looks like a video from Afghanistan. No, Afghanistan looks like New Mexico. 
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:30:45 PM EDT
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Why is SWAT out there dealing with a homeless guy that is illegally camping? Because he has a long history of violent officer interaction. I've heard about this guy when I was working in the MKUltra program. Appears his specialty was a behind his back knife attack. He'd been out of HAARP control for awhile now and all our CHEMTRAIL attempts to bring him back to the corral have failed. Those officers are lucky to be alive. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:31:34 PM EDT
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Job well done.....
he won't be camping there anymore.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:32:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Job well done..... he won't be camping there anymore.Good point! And they got to justify all the cool tactical shit and training the taxpayers paid for! I'd call that a win. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Job well done..... he won't be camping there anymore.Neither will anyone else if they know what's good for them.  |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:36:09 PM EDT
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:39:01 PM EDT
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Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. Yeah, and I think he may have actually been trying to escape the K9 that was bearing down on him. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:39:39 PM EDT
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Let Dave_A in this thread.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:40:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, and I think he may have actually been trying to escape the K9 that was bearing down on him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. Yeah, and I think he may have actually been trying to escape the K9 that was bearing down on him.  |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:41:22 PM EDT
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liveleak comment -
"And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the man who died, because fido charged at he. So I'll gladly pack up, all my things. And leave this place today. Because there ain't no doubt, We've lost this land. We've fucked the USA." |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:41:30 PM EDT
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wow...camping.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:45:02 PM EDT
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I bet they get a medal for that, with the V for valor
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:46:25 PM EDT
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. This. Drop the knife or get shot. Sad bc he is likely an EDP that should be in the loony bin except loony bins got shut down bc it was soooo much better to make the mentally ill homeless.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:47:16 PM EDT
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Neither will anyone else if they know what's good for them.
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Job well done..... he won't be camping there anymore.Neither will anyone else if they know what's good for them.
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:47:24 PM EDT
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Happened about 10 minutes from my house. APD has a history of shoot first, ask questions later attitudes. They are currently under invesitgation for killing many other "suspects." This one is not helping them. I was just going to say something similar. Especially the other shooting video that was released not long ago from December (?) where the guy threw his gun and got shot after the fact. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:47:54 PM EDT
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This. Drop the knife or get shot. Sad bc he is likely an EDP that should be in the loony bin except loony bins got shut down bc it was soooo much better to make the mentally ill homeless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. This. Drop the knife or get shot. Sad bc he is likely an EDP that should be in the loony bin except loony bins got shut down bc it was soooo much better to make the mentally ill homeless. And we're off. |
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:48:11 PM EDT
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Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dont pull knives on cops, simple lesson. Or run away? They fuckin shot him when he turned to run away. Do you think you get to simply run away when the Police have you at gunpoint and are issuing verbal commands? Seriously 
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:48:24 PM EDT
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liveleak comment - "And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the man who died, because fido charged at he. So I'll gladly pack up, all my things. And leave this place today. Because there ain't no doubt, We've lost this land. We've fucked the USA." wow
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Posted: 3/21/2014 10:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's justifiable then laws need to be changed. I agree, I hate to see what is going on in this nation! |
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