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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:17:06 PM EDT
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File the form 4 a year before you plan to buy it
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:17:47 PM EDT
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Why is that? Can you use a .308 suppressor on a 5.56 rifle?
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56.

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Why is that? Can you use a .308 suppressor on a 5.56 rifle?



yes
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:19:39 PM EDT
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can.

I got bukakked with gas in the face.  I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial.  All rounds fired were in F/A.  Maybe semi isnt as bad.  I dunno.

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Are you left handed by any chance?   A gus buster will feed directly under your nose in my experience w/ that setup.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:21:13 PM EDT
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IMO, the ar15 platform demands a tuned gas system for best suppressed shooting comfort.

In my case, I chopped a 20" rifle gas barrel down to 16" knowing that the setup would only run with suppressor mounted.  It does so flawlessly with no excess fouling of the action/mag well or gas to the face.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:23:32 PM EDT
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56.
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This!

I wish I had known that a good 30 cal can is just as effective.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:24:57 PM EDT
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Yup.

Suppressed 5.56 isn't all that quiet or discrete.

.22lr
9mm
.45
Even .308 are better choices, IMHO.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:26:27 PM EDT
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Are you left handed by any chance?   A gus buster will feed directly under your nose in my experience w/ that setup.
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My only experience with them is a couple mags through a buddy's work gun (Colt Commando) with an AAC can.

I got bukakked with gas in the face.  I would think some sort of 'gas buster' charging handle would be beneficial.  All rounds fired were in F/A.  Maybe semi isnt as bad.  I dunno.

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Are you left handed by any chance?   A gus buster will feed directly under your nose in my experience w/ that setup.


No.  Righty, here.



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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:27:27 PM EDT
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File the form 4 a year before you plan to buy it
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I can tell you have never gone through the process
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:28:43 PM EDT
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Just looking learn from others experience.

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How much lighter and corrosion resistant titanium is over stainless steel?
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:29:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:29:24 PM EDT
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Not from my experience.  Mount on my friends comes loose after 10 rounds or so.  Gemtech told him to use loc-tite which evidently still didn't work.  They also said if it gets loose and damages the can they won't warranty their crappy suppressor.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:29:28 PM EDT
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Get a .308, or a 9mm, or a .22.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:29:53 PM EDT
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Hope no one here is new to (rifle) suppressors and takes your advice...
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Always run wet...


Hope no one here is new to (rifle) suppressors and takes your advice...


I think he meant the gun, not the can.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:30:58 PM EDT
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Lighter? A freaking ton when it is on the end of a rifle.
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How much lighter and corrosion resistant titanium is over stainless steel?


Lighter? A freaking ton when it is on the end of a rifle.


My 30 cal Ti YHM is about half of my stainless YHM 5.56
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:33:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:35:05 PM EDT
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If you're only buying one can get a SureFire .308 instead of a 5.56.
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Correct, with a slight addition.
This thread needs more pics.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:37:06 PM EDT
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Before today, I had absolutely no idea that .308 cans work with 5.56.

Good to know.

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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:44:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:54:23 PM EDT
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In order of funnest cans first (using cans I own):

300 BLK SBR with subsonics.
.22 pistol suppressed with a .22 can.
.45 ACP suppressed pistol with 230gr subsonics.
Suppressed bolt action.
300 BLK SBR with supersonics.
Suppressed .223 AR.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:56:30 PM EDT
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SBR your lower and buy a handgun can as well,

Thats what i would have done if i could do it again,,

I got an spr/m4 and 762sdn6 my first go, now im waining on paperwork for my sbr and a 45 & 22 can
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:58:57 PM EDT
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56.
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There it is.  I love my M4-2000.  But if I had it to do again I would get a .30 cal can and be able to use it for 5.56/.308 and 300bo.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 9:59:00 PM EDT
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Tag for later.
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Yes.

Also, make sure its Titanium.
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If you're only buying one can get a .308 instead of a 5.56.

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Why is that? Can you use a .308 suppressor on a 5.56 rifle?


Yes.

Also, make sure its Titanium.


Wilson Combat Whisper
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:09:20 PM EDT
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I have a YHM Stainless with 7.62 / 5.56 mounts and its way to heavy for AR. I use it for my 308 rifle. I really like the Surefire MINI on my 10.3" Colt. Not the quietest, but it's small. It really tames down the Surefire Mb556k muzzle brake nicely.
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Thing is a BEAST without a can













 
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:12:27 PM EDT
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I wish I would have spent the extra ~$200 for a titanium can... Stainless steel is HEAVY on the end of a 16" rifle.

Granted, I love my suppressor, but lighter would have been better.

Also, don't breathe through your nose while shooting suppressed.
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Pretty much this. My AAC Cyclone .308 can on my 5.56 sbr is damn heavy. The cool factor outweighs all of the weight however. Don't think I would buy a 5.56 dedicated can though. Cost, plus time and bullshit paperwork is getting old, not to mention the $$$.$$.

Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:19:55 PM EDT
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So I'm getting a few "lessons learned"

- .300 BLK and .22 / 9mm / 45 are more effective / "fun" to suppress
- Suppressing 5.56 provides limited benefits, but is short of an amazing experience
- If you get a 5.56 suppressor, get a .30 cal titanium can

Right now I just have 5.56 rifles and several G19s.  I don't plan on expanding anytime soon.

Maybe I should just get some nice electronic Ear Pro
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:22:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:29:51 PM EDT
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The 30 cal is titanium. I fucked up when I bought the 556 can. It is heavy as shit, but it is pretty damned quiet. It is a YHM.



As others have said. Buy titanium. It is worth the extra coin.



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Looks like the Ti Phantom is 5 ounces heavier then the stainless/inconel Phantom LT (.30 cal) I have waiting for me at the shop.



Not sure how big a deal that is.
 
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:36:47 PM EDT
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Does getting a SF SOCOM762-MINI (.308) onto a SFMB-556-1/2-28 require a special adapter?
I'm looking to get a CAN, and given their price, a "multi-purpose" can would be nice.
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Looks like the Ti Phantom is 5 ounces heavier then the stainless/inconel Phantom LT (.30 cal) I have waiting for me at the shop.

Not sure how big a deal that is.


 
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The 30 cal is titanium. I fucked up when I bought the 556 can. It is heavy as shit, but it is pretty damned quiet. It is a YHM.

As others have said. Buy titanium. It is worth the extra coin.


Looks like the Ti Phantom is 5 ounces heavier then the stainless/inconel Phantom LT (.30 cal) I have waiting for me at the shop.

Not sure how big a deal that is.


 


My stainless Phantom 5.56 is 3.5 oz heavier than my 30 call Ti.  It is very noticeable when it's hanging off the front.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:39:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:41:11 PM EDT
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Should have got a .308 can.

Otherwise I'm very happy with my can.
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My stainless Phantom 5.56 is 3.5 oz heavier than my 30 call Ti.  It is very noticeable when it's hanging off the front.

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The 30 cal is titanium. I fucked up when I bought the 556 can. It is heavy as shit, but it is pretty damned quiet. It is a YHM.



As others have said. Buy titanium. It is worth the extra coin.





Looks like the Ti Phantom is 5 ounces heavier then the stainless/inconel Phantom LT (.30 cal) I have waiting for me at the shop.



Not sure how big a deal that is.





 




My stainless Phantom 5.56 is 3.5 oz heavier than my 30 call Ti.  It is very noticeable when it's hanging off the front.



I got it backwards. Ti is 5 ounces lighter than the one I bought. Oh well.
 
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I got it backwards. Ti is 5 ounces lighter than the one I bought. Oh well.


 
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The 30 cal is titanium. I fucked up when I bought the 556 can. It is heavy as shit, but it is pretty damned quiet. It is a YHM.

As others have said. Buy titanium. It is worth the extra coin.


Looks like the Ti Phantom is 5 ounces heavier then the stainless/inconel Phantom LT (.30 cal) I have waiting for me at the shop.

Not sure how big a deal that is.


 


My stainless Phantom 5.56 is 3.5 oz heavier than my 30 call Ti.  It is very noticeable when it's hanging off the front.

I got it backwards. Ti is 5 ounces lighter than the one I bought. Oh well.


 


You won't notice it until you've got both.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:43:35 PM EDT
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I have the coin to get both an M42K and a 762SDN6,a but I'm wondering if I should even bother with the M42K.
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A few years ago, I asked a similar question, I listened.

Buy a 22 rimfire and a 30 cal can, at the same time.

That's what I did, and it was, and still is, great advice. I ended up with a AAC Pilot 2 and a AAC Cyclone K.

- I use my 22 suppressor on a Browning Buckmark and a dedicated 22lr CMMG upper - there is absolutely nothing funner.

- I use my 30 caliber can on a 308 AR, 300 Blackout, and 5.56 AR, the blackout is best, followed by the 308, the 5.56's bring up the rear.

I want a 308 bolt gun to shoot subsonic, working on that.

Suppressing a 5.56 is useless in my opinion, now if I were a soldier or LEO, I might feel different.

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300 AAC Blackout


.22 CMMG AR


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Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:44:40 PM EDT
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How well would a 30 cal can work with a 22lr ? From the way I understand it a 30 cal can is the "jack of all trades" in the suppressor world?
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I believe that one uses the Surefire adapter.  You can put the adapters on several gun which will allow you to swap the can between them easily.  Like said, threaded cans typically start coming loose after several shots and require retightening.   A locking type adapter system keeps the can tight so you don't have to keep checking and retightening, which gets annoying on a semi auto when you're shooting rounds in succession.  I wouldn't mind a locking adapter system for pistols.  

Aside from that there is an advantage to a threaded can.  They're more consistent for precision shooting submoa groups because there tends to be a small amount of slop or play in the adapter mounting systems.
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How well would a 30 cal can work with a 22lr ? From the way I understand it a 30 cal can is the "jack of all trades" in the suppressor world?
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Bad idea.

Most .30 caliber cans will be sealed. Rimfire cans need to be disassembled and cleaned, a lot.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:48:18 PM EDT
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Personally I would just get the sdn6. I have a m42k, love it but rather have a sdn6.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:49:25 PM EDT
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The must haves are a spectre II, a tirant 45 and a 762sdn-6.

I own sure fire as well but the AAC products have the best value performance combo.
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imo

nope
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:50:42 PM EDT
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1: When you take the flash suppressor take the crush washer off, too.  The can will eventually come loose.  The crush washer will let it get looser sooner.

2: Just how hot it can get after One magazine.  You may shoot slowly, but the can will still get extremely hot.




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Personally I would just get the sdn6. I have a m42k, love it but rather have a sdn6.
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Personally I would just get the sdn6. I have a m42k, love it but rather have a sdn6.


Someone talk me out of an SWR Spectre II, SDN6, and TiRant 45.
Link Posted: 10/10/2013 10:59:49 PM EDT
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If you buy a .22 can make sure you can take it apart.



If buying a .223 can buy the .308 first and use it on the .223, only about 3-5 dbs louder.




Rinse then repeat!






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Get the titanium version.
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Someone talk me out of an SWR Spectre II, SDN6, and TiRant 45.
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I have the coin to get both an M42K and a 762SDN6,a but I'm wondering if I should even bother with the M42K.


Personally I would just get the sdn6. I have a m42k, love it but rather have a sdn6.


Someone talk me out of an SWR Spectre II, SDN6, and TiRant 45.



If I could only have three. These are it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2013 12:13:59 AM EDT
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762SDN-6 on a 5.56 AR. I've been really happy with it but there's definitely still a supersonic crack. It really shines on something like a 300 blackout.
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