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Link Posted: 9/24/2013 7:17:29 PM EDT
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Pod sticking out from under the fuel tank, form line of the CFT, and the dark gray paint.  How is the closest one not an -E?  


Its a Singaporean jet the F-15SG, this and the Korean F-15K Slam Eagle and the Saudi Arabian F-15SA are all way more advanced than the USAF F-15E in terms of avionics and weapons capability, all models except the USAF F-15E can also carry and deploy the Harpoon anti ship missile and the SLAM-ER land attack version of the Harpoon as well as I think but I'm not certain, the AGM 154 JSOW

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The UAE's F-16s are also a bunch higher spec than the USAF's birds.

Long and short is the USAF wants  F-35s rather than them and purchasing such things would lead to questions as to why there is a need for the F-35 now anyway.Obviously,there is more future potential in the F-35 but the mature 15 and 16 offer pretty damn incredible abilities.
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Pod sticking out from under the fuel tank, form line of the CFT, and the dark gray paint.  How is the closest one not an -E?  


Its a Singaporean jet the F-15SG, this and the Korean F-15K Slam Eagle and the Saudi Arabian F-15SA are all way more advanced than the USAF F-15E in terms of avionics and weapons capability, all models except the USAF F-15E can also carry and deploy the Harpoon anti ship missile and the SLAM-ER land attack version of the Harpoon as well as I think but I'm not certain, the AGM 154 JSOW

Oh really?


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I only know what I've read from publicly available sources here is a comparison researched from public records between the different Strike Eagle variants.

F-15SA and F-15E

F-15K and F-15E

F-15SG and F-15E

I especially like the "Tiger Eyes" pods which give these jets an advantage in the air to air arena, I've read that the USAF F-15C's are getting something like this as well.

As awesome as these new jets are, I still want to build a USAF version so wanted confirmation of the AIM 9X on that, although a small and insignificant detail, I like to be as accurate as possible, so if they don't have them in real life, or at least they are not commonly fitted I won't include any on my model when I start that.
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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.

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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg


That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.

And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:





Does this add any real world enhancements to the aircraft?
Link Posted: 9/24/2013 8:02:31 PM EDT
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That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.



And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:



http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg



http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg



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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.



http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg




That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.



And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:



http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg



http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg



Does this add any real world enhancements to the aircraft?
Huh.  They didn't have that when I was TDY to the JASDF base at Chitose.  But, that 19 years ago, too.



 
Link Posted: 9/24/2013 8:15:45 PM EDT
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Yeah,that's a recent addition with the F-15J Kai updates. They were holding out that the US would sell them F-22s but started an update program and work on their own stealth fighter program.
Link Posted: 9/24/2013 8:22:25 PM EDT
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That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.



And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:



http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg



http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg



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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.



http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg




That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.



And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:



http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg



http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg



Does this add any real world enhancements to the aircraft?
Is it normal for advanced aircraft to look like Bondo-bandits?

 
Link Posted: 9/24/2013 8:25:26 PM EDT
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I've read some place (Might have been here on ARFCOM) that the USAF F-15C's are or will be getting an IRST capability at some stage, but with the sequestration I don't know what the status of that program is anymore.
Link Posted: 9/24/2013 10:02:32 PM EDT
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That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.

And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:

http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg

http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg

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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg


That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.

And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:

http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg

http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg

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I believe it does make a difference. Some of these IRST systems can passively track an airborne target from about 10 or 15 miles (Might be further), this allows them to sneak up on an aircraft without using their own radars and thus alerting the target to their presents, I think some systems allow the tracking aircraft to lock and fire on the target with heat seeking missiles (AIM 9's and stuff)
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I sure as hell wouldn't want that pissed off at me.  

 
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It's not the hard points that make it an "E" model. C and D models are capable of using CFT's also, it's rare, but they can.

Notice the two things on the bottom of the intakes? C and D models don't have a FLIR pod or a targeting pod.

Paint job also. E's are painted dark solid grey, were as C and D models have a two tone grey paint job.
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This an Echo? I'm assuming so with all the hard points.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2310/2476351057_73fb9599a0_b.jpg

Yup. That's a Strike Eagle.


It's not the hard points that make it an "E" model. C and D models are capable of using CFT's also, it's rare, but they can.

Notice the two things on the bottom of the intakes? C and D models don't have a FLIR pod or a targeting pod.

Paint job also. E's are painted dark solid grey, were as C and D models have a two tone grey paint job.


That and C/D's don't have a retaining ring wheel assembly, they are held together by tie bolts.
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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg


That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.

And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:

http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg

http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg

Does this add any real world enhancements to the aircraft?
Is it normal for advanced aircraft to look like Bondo-bandits?  


Yes.Constant corrosion control means lots of spot painting.
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A-4Cs could but rarely did  carry Shrikes. By the time they came in wide use,most Skyhawk  squadrons flying over North Vietnam had  Es and Fs which of course did carry plenty of Shrikes for Iron Hand but the Marine  Cs in South Vietnam didn't need to carry them. When the Cs got updated to Ls with the E/F hump it would be more common to see one with Shrikes.

http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/3_A4_Shrike_1.jpg


That was the one picture I did find, though the the orange tail and "China Lake" made me thing it was more of a test than standard on all Cs. Now, the model I do have is a USMC C or Argentine C. So I don't think I will put missiles on it either way.

And since we are speaking about other country F-15/F-16s, the F-15J also has an IRST that the C does not have:

http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/05/08/aba7a83e.jpg

http://art1.photozou.jp/pub/892/152892/photo/15583298.jpg

Does this add any real world enhancements to the aircraft?
Is it normal for advanced aircraft to look like Bondo-bandits?  


Yes.Constant corrosion control means lots of spot painting.


No.  And especially not in this case.  

The F-15's radom is a type of fiberglass. those are delamination fixes for gouging or scratches.  This probably also helps in keeping a smooth signal going in and out.

Aircraft typically get a hourly full body paint from depot at usually either Hill or Warner-Robbins.  Sometimes locally at a particular base.

Sheetmetal will usually only paint panels if they are new and still in primer (usually yellow or green) or after specific fixes to panels (beefup plates, delamination, ect.)

Most aircraft are covered in nicks and gouges in the paint, usually along the leading edge surfaces and along the fastener rows.

Touch up painting is almost non-existent.

Most of the reason why is paint and sealing requires a 12 hour cure check, and a controlled environment to set up (hangered), which all costs more time in the long run than just allowing the aircraft to hit is hourly re-paint.

Also Sheetmetal is a MXS function, they have lower manning vs an AMU, they don't have the time to run around and play touch up, and Crew Chiefs aren't allowed to run around with illegal cups of paint either.





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Also Sheetmetal is a MXS function, they have lower manning vs an AMU, they don't have the time to run around and play touch up, and Crew Chiefs aren't allowed to run around with illegal cups of paint either.






Watch it buddy
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Visit one of the many modeling web site.  You'll get more info than you can sort out.  Large Scale Planes, Hyperscale and Aircraft Resource Center.  ARC's having hacker problems right now though.  Forums have been down for a while.
What scale are you building?
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

I had the Wing Kings jet in NOLA and it SUCKED at first but now several years later I still have (usually) the cleanest bird on the ramp. White wheels win wars dammit

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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

I had the Wing Kings jet in NOLA and it SUCKED at first but now several years later I still have (usually) the cleanest bird on the ramp. White wheels win wars dammit


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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

I had the Wing Kings jet in NOLA and it SUCKED at first but now several years later I still have (usually) the cleanest bird on the ramp. White wheels win wars dammit




That's why I hold on to my AR union card.  


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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.



I will gut a crew chief like a fish if he polishes my pitot, AOA, and/or total temp probes.  



 
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

I will gut a crew chief like a fish if he polishes my pitot, AOA, and/or total temp probes.  
 


Check out these blings.  The gun port and hub cabs were also chrome dipped.

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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.



I will gut a crew chief like a fish if he polishes my pitot, AOA, and/or total temp probes.  

 




Check out these blings.  The gun port and hub cabs were also chrome dipped.



http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208711_1641754092826_2418981_n.jpg
Bah.  Viper.



Anyway, I don't give a damn about the gun port, or hub caps.  Those aren't prone to getting polishing compound and gunk in slots and ports, nor to heating corrosion, that'll force me to R2 'em.



Or that would have forced me, before I retired.  



 
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.

I will gut a crew chief like a fish if he polishes my pitot, AOA, and/or total temp probes.  
 


Check out these blings.  The gun port and hub cabs were also chrome dipped.

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208711_1641754092826_2418981_n.jpg


bleh! F-16 belongs in a garbage can.
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.



I will gut a crew chief like a fish if he polishes my pitot, AOA, and/or total temp probes.  

 




Check out these blings.  The gun port and hub cabs were also chrome dipped.



http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208711_1641754092826_2418981_n.jpg




bleh! F-16 belongs in a garbage can.
Now, now, an F-16 loaded with five bombs can hit six targets, after all.
Don't hate on the disposable fighters.



 
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.



No Shit, the Wing King at Luke had enough chrome on his jet for a 57 Chevy.  Tailhook, gun port, stuff like that.  And it is polished with pride.  I had an augie (augmentee) riding with me one night and this kid loved his jets.  He would make me stop to put intake covers and other bits of stuff that were in danger of blowing off during the windstorm we had that night.  Weren't the kids jets, but he spent 12 hours like a mother hen, watching them in the poor weather.  

Made sure he got an atta boy from the Sec Forces AND the squadron who's jets he babysat.  Damn good kid, I've lost track of him, but I hope he stayed in.  
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I just hate working on them. F-15 for life!!!
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A 9X on a mudhen would be like issuing Mk 262 for M4s.  It is possible but doesn't provide a significant benefit and is unlikely to happen outside of extraordinary circumstances.
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I really like 1/32 but I have space issues so its a toss up between 1/72 and 1/48, I think I'm leaning towards 1/48 though, it will depend on what after market stuff I can get my paws on and of course pricing at the end, I am still in very early stages and just gathering information right now.
Link Posted: 9/25/2013 2:29:32 PM EDT
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I love this good old rivalry between the Viper and Eagle camps, its even more intense between USAF and Navy, but at the end of the day they are all on the same team and come together in one massive conglomeration  of whoop ass.

Is there much rivalry between fighter Eagle and Strike Eagle guys? Or is the Eagle a common bond?
Link Posted: 9/25/2013 3:02:33 PM EDT
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No rivalry in the maintainers.  A lot of us have worked both.
Link Posted: 9/25/2013 3:06:19 PM EDT
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No rivalry in the maintainers.  A lot of us have worked both.


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Is there much rivalry between fighter Eagle and Strike Eagle guys? Or is the Eagle a common bond?






No rivalry in the maintainers.  A lot of us have worked both.


A guy like me, who worked C models from first duty station to last, over 20 years, is a bit of an oddity, actually.  



ETA:  Well, I did work on an E model for about two minutes, once.  Does that count?





 
Link Posted: 9/26/2013 3:44:50 AM EDT
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I really like 1/32 but I have space issues so its a toss up between 1/72 and 1/48, I think I'm leaning towards 1/48 though, it will depend on what after market stuff I can get my paws on and of course pricing at the end, I am still in very early stages and just gathering information right now.
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Visit one of the many modeling web site.  You'll get more info than you can sort out.  Large Scale Planes, Hyperscale and Aircraft Resource Center.  ARC's having hacker problems right now though.  Forums have been down for a while.
What scale are you building?


I really like 1/32 but I have space issues so its a toss up between 1/72 and 1/48, I think I'm leaning towards 1/48 though, it will depend on what after market stuff I can get my paws on and of course pricing at the end, I am still in very early stages and just gathering information right now.


A 1/48 scale F15 is pretty big.
Link Posted: 9/26/2013 4:24:39 AM EDT
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Yes, I have an old Tamiya F-15C I built many years ago in 1/48, I also 2 Tomcats and a Jaguar in the same scale, they are quite large and do take a lot of space.
Link Posted: 9/26/2013 4:42:08 AM EDT
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A 9X on a mudhen would be like issuing Mk 262 for M4s.  It is possible but doesn't provide a significant benefit and is unlikely to happen outside of extraordinary circumstances.
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Giving a high off-boresight missile capability to an aircraft that can be out maneuvered by several of its adversaries seems like it may provide a benefit.  However, Strike Eagles do not currently have the capability to carry 9X.
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Giving a high off-boresight missile capability to an aircraft that can be out maneuvered by several of its adversaries seems like it may provide a benefit.  However, Strike Eagles do not currently have the capability to carry 9X.
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A 9X on a mudhen would be like issuing Mk 262 for M4s.  It is possible but doesn't provide a significant benefit and is unlikely to happen outside of extraordinary circumstances.

Giving a high off-boresight missile capability to an aircraft that can be out maneuvered by several of its adversaries seems like it may provide a benefit.  However, Strike Eagles do not currently have the capability to carry 9X.



That's what I would have thought, although an very capable air to air fighter plane, the F-15E would be required to jettison most if not all of it's air to ground toys if it were to be engaged within visual range by an adversary, thus making it's primary mission of air to ground attack null and void at that time, so an off-bore sight round would be very helpful in that a lot of previously required maneuvering would be minimized and the jet would still be able to defend itself and get to the target, once bombs are gone it can then turn and burn with the best of them.
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It is, but the 1/32 Mudhen from Tamiya is fraking huge.

I had one that took me 3 months to complete, it was awesome...right up til I dropped it down a flight of stairs when the dog bolted past me and knocked me over into the wall.

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Visit one of the many modeling web site.  You'll get more info than you can sort out.  Large Scale Planes, Hyperscale and Aircraft Resource Center.  ARC's having hacker problems right now though.  Forums have been down for a while.
What scale are you building?


I really like 1/32 but I have space issues so its a toss up between 1/72 and 1/48, I think I'm leaning towards 1/48 though, it will depend on what after market stuff I can get my paws on and of course pricing at the end, I am still in very early stages and just gathering information right now.


A 1/48 scale F15 is pretty big.



It is, but the 1/32 Mudhen from Tamiya is fraking huge.

I had one that took me 3 months to complete, it was awesome...right up til I dropped it down a flight of stairs when the dog bolted past me and knocked me over into the wall.



Oh crap, I feel your pain, I had a 1/28 Huey and Loach and we moved from one house to another and these two helos were on the rear parcel shelf in the car for the whole 6+ hour journey to the new house, when we got there they had both melted.
Link Posted: 9/26/2013 11:59:53 PM EDT
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I like pictures so I thought I'd add a few of my screen shots from FSX







And some of the real jet I've found on the internet.







That is a nice jet right there.
Link Posted: 9/27/2013 2:13:54 AM EDT
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No Shit, the Wing King at Luke had enough chrome on his jet for a 57 Chevy.  Tailhook, gun port, stuff like that.  And it is polished with pride.  I had an augie (augmentee) riding with me one night and this kid loved his jets.  He would make me stop to put intake covers and other bits of stuff that were in danger of blowing off during the windstorm we had that night.  Weren't the kids jets, but he spent 12 hours like a mother hen, watching them in the poor weather.  



Made sure he got an atta boy from the Sec Forces AND the squadron who's jets he babysat.  Damn good kid, I've lost track of him, but I hope he stayed in.  

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Also Sheetmetal is a MXS function, they have lower manning vs an AMU, they don't have the time to run around and play touch up, and Crew Chiefs aren't allowed to run around with illegal cups of paint either.
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Unless you are on the Wing jet and then you can get away with it, and also taking parts home to get chromed out for the bling.







No Shit, the Wing King at Luke had enough chrome on his jet for a 57 Chevy.  Tailhook, gun port, stuff like that.  And it is polished with pride.  I had an augie (augmentee) riding with me one night and this kid loved his jets.  He would make me stop to put intake covers and other bits of stuff that were in danger of blowing off during the windstorm we had that night.  Weren't the kids jets, but he spent 12 hours like a mother hen, watching them in the poor weather.  



Made sure he got an atta boy from the Sec Forces AND the squadron who's jets he babysat.  Damn good kid, I've lost track of him, but I hope he stayed in.  

That's cool.  Thanks.

 
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