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Posted: 6/17/2023 7:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: It's not uncommon for the oil pickup tube to crack, low pressure rattles things around for a bit. If I'm that deep I change the pump to a high volume just to be safe. Melling used to be a good pump for this engine. It's cool you got 3 generations together for Father's day! My Pops is 4 hrs away with my Grandfather arguing over who is the better shot. My boys and I hoe'd weeds and washed the cars, now we are watching cartoons. Lol What’s the best way to determine my course of action? It still has all the oil in it, I didn’t put a con rod through the block, but boy did it sound rattley when I shut it off. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 8:25:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: What's the best way to determine my course of action? It still has all the oil in it, I didn't put a con rod through the block, but boy did it sound rattley when I shut it off. You can pull the pan without pulling the motor or axle out by removing the pickup tube after dropping the pan loose. Putting it back together that way is a bitch but can be done in a driveway without a lift if you Jack the body up a little and the rust is not too bad. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 8:42:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: Pull the oil pressure sensor (right side near oil filter) and put a Guage on it. Low fluttering pressure is a cracked pickup, low steady is usually the pump. You can pull the pan without pulling the motor or axle out by removing the pickup tube after dropping the pan loose. Putting it back together that way is a bitch but can be done in a driveway without a lift if you Jack the body up a little and the rust is not too bad. Might pop over to oreillys on the way home from work and get a set of gauges. I did the oil pressure sensor last year, and when this happened, my first thought was the sensor went out until it went all rattley on me. I’m hoping the 50 feet I drove with that noise (flatter and safer spot in the lot) didn’t do too awful much damage. I’m really afraid a bearing is already spun, and any more running will throw a rod through the block. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 8:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Might pop over to oreillys on the way home from work and get a set of gauges. I did the oil pressure sensor last year, and when this happened, my first thought was the sensor went out until it went all rattley on me. I'm hoping the 50 feet I drove with that noise (flatter and safer spot in the lot) didn't do too awful much damage. I'm really afraid a bearing is already spun, and any more running will throw a rod through the block. Anything to note last oil change? If you were just putting around I'm betting its ok, these things are built looser than a $5 whore on Friday night. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 10:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: Stupid question, but have you pulled the dipstick since it started making noise? Most of these drink oil or leak like a sieve. Anything to note last oil change? If you were just putting around I'm betting its ok, these things are built looser than a $5 whore on Friday night. Oil level was fine before we stepped off this morning, oil level was fine this evening after the tow truck kicked it loose in my driveway. No chocolate milk, no sparkles. |
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Posted: 6/18/2023 2:01:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Oil level was fine before we stepped off this morning, oil level was fine this evening after the tow truck kicked it loose in my driveway. No chocolate milk, no sparkles. |
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Posted: 6/18/2023 9:26:19 AM EDT
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In 04 the cams were a problem. My 04 LJ did the same thing when it ate the cam
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Posted: 6/19/2023 12:37:27 PM EDT
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@Aspp you gonna be a YouTube star?
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Posted: 6/19/2023 6:34:26 PM EDT
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So, odd report to make. Just for titty sparkles, I fired that jeep up today. Oil pressure came right up and no rattle, runs as smooth as usual.
Did I starve the oil pump on that last steep hill? No rattle means everything ok? I feel like an idiot asking these questions given my profession, but in 7 years, I’ve never encountered an issue like this. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 7:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: So, odd report to make. Just for titty sparkles, I fired that jeep up today. Oil pressure came right up and no rattle, runs as smooth as usual. Did I starve the oil pump on that last steep hill? No rattle means everything ok? I feel like an idiot asking these questions given my profession, but in 7 years, I’ve never encountered an issue like this. How about once it's up to operating temp? |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 7:31:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: How about once it's up to operating temp? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By TrashWrencher: So, odd report to make. Just for titty sparkles, I fired that jeep up today. Oil pressure came right up and no rattle, runs as smooth as usual. Did I starve the oil pump on that last steep hill? No rattle means everything ok? I feel like an idiot asking these questions given my profession, but in 7 years, I’ve never encountered an issue like this. How about once it's up to operating temp? Haven't done that yet.
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Posted: 6/19/2023 7:56:21 PM EDT
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Does it have a relief valve that could have hung open? I'd spin the filter off and look for sparklies. If it looks ok run it up to temp and see what it does.
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Posted: 6/19/2023 8:45:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: How about once it's up to operating temp?  Attached FileAnd some nuts to it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 8:54:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258113/image_jpg-2857435.JPG And some nuts to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258113/image_jpg-2857436.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: How about once it's up to operating temp? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258113/image_jpg-2857435.JPG And some nuts to it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258113/image_jpg-2857436.JPG IIRC, Chrysler oil pressure "senders" are just a switch. If it's above something like 8 psi, it'll read "correct". I know that's how it was on my Cummins. But if you're not hearing anything maybe you dodged a bullet. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 8:55:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: IIRC, Chrysler oil pressure "senders" are just a switch. If it's above something like 8 psi, it'll read "correct". I know that's how it was on my Cummins. But if you're not hearing anything maybe you dodged a bullet. Yeah, none of that horrible rattle it made the other day. I suppose I should go get a proper pressure gauge set and see what it’s actually doing before I drive further than circles on my property. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 9:00:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Yeah, none of that horrible rattle it made the other day. I suppose I should go get a proper pressure gauge set and see what it’s actually doing before I drive further than circles on my property. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: IIRC, Chrysler oil pressure "senders" are just a switch. If it's above something like 8 psi, it'll read "correct". I know that's how it was on my Cummins. But if you're not hearing anything maybe you dodged a bullet. Yeah, none of that horrible rattle it made the other day. I suppose I should go get a proper pressure gauge set and see what it’s actually doing before I drive further than circles on my property. Would be a good idea. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 1:11:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: @Aspp you gonna be a YouTube star?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTRB8JXzrz0I only saw a couple of my Cats in that video, we don't have any 6Ts or 6Ks. We do have a bunch of 6Ns, a few 6Ms and 5Hs, a couple new D5s and one 7F. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:27:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: Lmao! I do wear glasses, but thats not me. The language is too clean as well, I couldn't say half of what he did and not drop 3 f bombs. I only saw a couple of my Cats in that video, we don't have any 6Ts or 6Ks. We do have a bunch of 6Ns, a few 6Ms and 5Hs, a couple new D5s and one 7F. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: @Aspp you gonna be a YouTube star? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTRB8JXzrz0I only saw a couple of my Cats in that video, we don't have any 6Ts or 6Ks. We do have a bunch of 6Ns, a few 6Ms and 5Hs, a couple new D5s and one 7F. I know that wasn't you, just thought he might be interviewing you. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:03:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Yeah, none of that horrible rattle it made the other day. I suppose I should go get a proper pressure gauge set and see what it's actually doing before I drive further than circles on my property. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 9:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I know that wasn't you, just thought he might be interviewing you. Anyway, We have people who get paid to talk to the press and YouTube starlets, I let them do their job. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 5:08:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: That's a good sign, verify the oil pressure then drop the pan. Ill bet that pickup tube is cracked. Maybe add oil pump pickup tube loose or missing the o ring on pickup tube to pump. I have had at least one I remember that the pickup tube bolts were loose |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 5:12:02 PM EDT
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Also, have one to add to the thread. 2014 hyundai 2.0 turbo broken exhaust valve. Other thing that sucks is they were heading home to Florida.
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Posted: 6/20/2023 5:25:02 PM EDT
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Man I’m striking out with this xterra. Was able to work on it and watch everything on the scan tool the other day and don’t understand it. I called M35ben and bent his ear on it. Decided that I needed to get it to an actual shop as it’s not worth the frustration. Take it up this morning and they call saying both cats are toasted.
When I asked them how they came to the conclusion he said they removed both upstream o2 sensors and it was running normally, albeit loudly. I’m not sure if it’s my pride or my arrogance but I find it hard to believe it’s both. The issues were mainly with the passenger side bank. I went and asked for a quote breakdown and basically it’s the two main cats and labor to the tune of 2900. They have an hour of diag time on it and I’d happily pay the labor for it but 2900 is hard to swing at the moment. I hate to bring it home and do the cats myself and it not be the issue and get egg on my face but I’m kinda just at my wits wend with it. Thoughts? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 5:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittlePony: Anyone know where I can Send a 1970s era smog pump to get rebuilt? Probably already answered. Suggest picking up an issue of hemmings motor news if it's still in print. Could be helpful for other stuff for your ride |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 5:46:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: Man I’m striking out with this xterra. Was able to work on it and watch everything on the scan tool the other day and don’t understand it. I called M35ben and bent his ear on it. Decided that I needed to get it to an actual shop as it’s not worth the frustration. Take it up this morning and they call saying both cats are toasted. When I asked them how they came to the conclusion he said they removed both upstream o2 sensors and it was running normally, albeit loudly. I’m not sure if it’s my pride or my arrogance but I find it hard to believe it’s both. The issues were mainly with the passenger side bank. I went and asked for a quote breakdown and basically it’s the two main cats and labor to the tune of 2900. They have an hour of diag time on it and I’d happily pay the labor for it but 2900 is hard to swing at the moment. I hate to bring it home and do the cats myself and it not be the issue and get egg on my face but I’m kinda just at my wits wend with it. Thoughts? Cats are not uncommon on them. Would have been nice if they put a back pressure gauge on both banks and recorded readings. Have active misfires all the time? If so maybe monitor misfires, remove both upper oxy sensors and run again to see if misfires go away. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thewrencher: Cats are not uncommon on them. Would have been nice if they put a back pressure gauge on both banks and recorded readings. Have active misfires all the time? If so maybe monitor misfires, remove both upper oxy sensors and run again to see if misfires go away. Straight running like shit. All the time. I have to take their word for it thag removing the sensors straightened it up. I think I’ll go get it tomorrow. Pay the diag fee and play with it some more. I can verify myself. Admittedly I’m not that good with car engines. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: Man I’m striking out with this xterra. Was able to work on it and watch everything on the scan tool the other day and don’t understand it. I called M35ben and bent his ear on it. Decided that I needed to get it to an actual shop as it’s not worth the frustration. Take it up this morning and they call saying both cats are toasted. When I asked them how they came to the conclusion he said they removed both upstream o2 sensors and it was running normally, albeit loudly. I’m not sure if it’s my pride or my arrogance but I find it hard to believe it’s both. The issues were mainly with the passenger side bank. I went and asked for a quote breakdown and basically it’s the two main cats and labor to the tune of 2900. They have an hour of diag time on it and I’d happily pay the labor for it but 2900 is hard to swing at the moment. I hate to bring it home and do the cats myself and it not be the issue and get egg on my face but I’m kinda just at my wits wend with it. Thoughts? That's a price that might mean letting the truck go. Xterra's don't hold value that well. Mine was damn near minty and only got 2500 for it when I traded it for my last truck. How much would 2 cats cost to do it yourself? |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: That's a price that might mean letting the truck go. Xterra's don't hold value that well. Mine was damn near minty and only got 2500 for it when I traded it for my last truck. How much would 2 cats cost to do it yourself? $500 in cats from rock auto. 40 in gaskets. Nj jersey salt…. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: $500 in cats from rock auto. 40 in gaskets. Nj jersey salt…. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: That's a price that might mean letting the truck go. Xterra's don't hold value that well. Mine was damn near minty and only got 2500 for it when I traded it for my last truck. How much would 2 cats cost to do it yourself? $500 in cats from rock auto. 40 in gaskets. Nj jersey salt…. Not too terrible, but not great either. |
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Posted: 6/20/2023 6:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Not too terrible, but not great either. No. But it’s paid off and basically my range whip. If we go anywhere it’s in her traverse. We don’t want a payment right now. |
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Posted: 6/22/2023 12:01:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: No. But it's paid off and basically my range whip. If we go anywhere it's in her traverse. We don't want a payment right now. |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 9:19:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspp: Go to a muffler shop and see if they can weld in some universal fits, they should be a fraction of the cost. I ordered some off rock auto. Another arfcom member and I are going to tackle it ourselves. Two forklift mechanics can maybe figure it out…… |
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Posted: 6/23/2023 10:08:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: 280 hours  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204916/20230615_142504-2852493.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204916/20230615_144246-2852495.jpg Revisiting this stupid thing. Every single component has been replaced. Having really high suction pressure (120-170 psi) with the high side being the same pressure. Everything that the AC engineers have had me test has produced no definitive fault. I initially suspected the orifice tube since I recovered and tore apart the system again and the o-rings on it looked like they were twisted. It felt like it went in really easily so I thought maybe the o-rings weren't sealing and it was being bypassed. Replaced and still no change. Now I'm sorta leaning towards a valve stuck in the compressor, but I'm not going to be tearing it apart unless they specifically say to do so. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 10:34:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: I ordered some off rock auto. Another arfcom member and I are going to tackle it ourselves. Two forklift mechanics can maybe figure it out…… I had a supercharged '02 for many years, the manifolds crack as well. Sold mine with 250k or so miles, went through 5 or 6 engines and never replaced a cat. The old 112/113 Benz engines would clog cats, mostly on the 163 ML. We would pull the front O2 sensors to drive them in, they sound awesome with the cat pipes off 
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: I ordered some off rock auto. Another arfcom member and I are going to tackle it ourselves. Two forklift mechanics can maybe figure it out |
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Posted: 6/29/2023 6:35:34 PM EDT
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When doing brakes on a mid-model Prius, do you need a computer to reset the abs or have it relearn anything, or is it a straight brake job?
My SIL was quoted $1600 for all four wheels and if it doesn’t require some sort of fancy reset, imma offer to do it for half. |
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Posted: 6/29/2023 6:50:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: When doing brakes on a mid-model Prius, do you need a computer to reset the abs or have it relearn anything, or is it a straight brake job? My SIL was quoted $1600 for all four wheels and if it doesn’t require some sort of fancy reset, imma offer to do it for half. No, it's a Prius, so it's pretty gay.
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Posted: 6/29/2023 7:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: No, it's a Prius, so it's pretty gay. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By TrashWrencher: When doing brakes on a mid-model Prius, do you need a computer to reset the abs or have it relearn anything, or is it a straight brake job? My SIL was quoted $1600 for all four wheels and if it doesn’t require some sort of fancy reset, imma offer to do it for half. No, it's a Prius, so it's pretty gay. If I can fleece my SIL for $800 before pads, I’ll risk teh gay. |
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Posted: 6/29/2023 7:28:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: If I can fleece my SIL for $800 before pads, I’ll risk teh gay. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Originally Posted By TrashWrencher: When doing brakes on a mid-model Prius, do you need a computer to reset the abs or have it relearn anything, or is it a straight brake job? My SIL was quoted $1600 for all four wheels and if it doesn’t require some sort of fancy reset, imma offer to do it for half. No, it's a Prius, so it's pretty gay. If I can fleece my SIL for $800 before pads, I’ll risk teh gay. Just make sure you wear your rubbers (gloves). |
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Posted: 6/30/2023 12:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: When doing brakes on a mid-model Prius, do you need a computer to reset the abs or have it relearn anything, or is it a straight brake job? My SIL was quoted $1600 for all four wheels and if it doesn’t require some sort of fancy reset, imma offer to do it for half. No Prius experience, but I've replaced hundreds of brakes over 20 years and never needed a computer to reset anything. Even the old brake by wire Benzs you were good as long as nobody opened a door with the caliper off. Our electric parking brakes are through the cluster. Might need a spinny thing for the rear brakes, check before you're in there and stuck. |
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Posted: 7/8/2023 2:58:30 PM EDT
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This old building has so much RF interference that the new EV diag equipment only works outside
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Posted: 7/10/2023 8:04:10 PM EDT
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Ok cat dudes, what’s with the drain plug on the bottom of a D8T for the trans? You can put that sucker on finger tight, and the next time you go to drain the trans you need a 4 foot ratchet with another 3 foot of cheater. We just cheesed the 1/2” hole on one today trying to do a service, and ended up having to weld a nut on it to get it off.
Any tips and tricks? |
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Posted: 7/10/2023 8:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Ok cat dudes, what’s with the drain plug on the bottom of a D8T for the trans? You can put that sucker on finger tight, and the next time you go to drain the trans you need a 4 foot ratchet with another 3 foot of cheater. We just cheesed the 1/2” hole on one today trying to do a service, and ended up having to weld a nut on it to get it off. Any tips and tricks? Anti-seize. And usually once they wear down thin enough that you're not getting a ratchet in, I air chisel them loose. |
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Posted: 7/10/2023 8:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Anti-seize. And usually once they wear down thin enough that you're not getting a ratchet in, I air chisel them loose. I’ll do that this time. The old guy that trained me told me to not use anti-seize on the drain plug, but it’s worth a shot. Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/10/2023 9:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: I’ll do that this time. The old guy that trained me told me to not use anti-seize on the drain plug, but it’s worth a shot. Thanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Anti-seize. And usually once they wear down thin enough that you're not getting a ratchet in, I air chisel them loose. I’ll do that this time. The old guy that trained me told me to not use anti-seize on the drain plug, but it’s worth a shot. Thanks. I anti-seize every damn thing. I'm an anti-seize whore. Could always just get ahead of the problem and weld a nut onto a new plug so that you don't have to weld upside down. |
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Posted: 7/11/2023 4:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: Ok cat dudes, what’s with the drain plug on the bottom of a D8T for the trans? You can put that sucker on finger tight, and the next time you go to drain the trans you need a 4 foot ratchet with another 3 foot of cheater. We just cheesed the 1/2” hole on one today trying to do a service, and ended up having to weld a nut on it to get it off. Any tips and tricks? Hit it with a hammer before trying to loosen it. 2-3 good solid whacks and then it should loosen with reasonable force. |
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Posted: 7/11/2023 9:25:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/11/2023 10:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: Hit it with a hammer before trying to loosen it. 2-3 good solid whacks and then it should loosen with reasonable force. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: Originally Posted By TrashWrencher: Ok cat dudes, what’s with the drain plug on the bottom of a D8T for the trans? You can put that sucker on finger tight, and the next time you go to drain the trans you need a 4 foot ratchet with another 3 foot of cheater. We just cheesed the 1/2” hole on one today trying to do a service, and ended up having to weld a nut on it to get it off. Any tips and tricks? Hit it with a hammer before trying to loosen it. 2-3 good solid whacks and then it should loosen with reasonable force. That too. |
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Posted: 7/11/2023 10:08:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TrashWrencher: 836H https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258113/IMG_7516_jpeg-2881783.JPG Crispy |
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Posted: 7/11/2023 10:47:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cat-mechanic: Hit it with a hammer before trying to loosen it. 2-3 good solid whacks and then it should loosen with reasonable force. We had a kid do that on a car and split the cast pan. That car got a really good oil change
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