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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: SCOTUS has punted on every single AWB pushed to them. SCOCO is a communist-socialist-infested rat hole. I have little hope. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 8:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: What hills did they choose to die on? I'm new to the state and learning the lay of the political landscape. Fighting pot is my guess. I’ve only been here 7 years. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 8:58:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: What hills did they choose to die on? I'm new to the state and learning the lay of the political landscape. Weed, gays and the A word. You don't yell about that shit, especially the first 2 in a purple state. You say "I'm live and let live, and if it 'neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg,' then IDGAF." I'm talking about people like Lori Saine. She and others didn't know when to STFU. ETA- Karen likes her $, but she's also sympathetic to her hairdresser.  Anecdotally, I'd say at least 15% of R voters smoke the Devil's Lettuce. 
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Not quite. When this state was more purple 12-14 years ago, the Rs picked stupid hills on which to die (we all know what they were). That turned-off many unaffiliated voters. That needs to be owned. I was very involved in my county's R Party and correctly warned them, but the RINO-theocrat echo chamber didn't want to hear from someone who is consistent on issues of liberty. In the meantime, this state became further infested while the CO GOP became more disfunctional. Now here we are.  Yeah, the CO republican party repeatedly fucked up. But the biggest issue was they couldn't un-do the shit like the mail in ballots which led to widespread fraud, and then the absolute "sham" of the redistricting, leaving it to a supposedly "random" group of normal people (that were of course bought off, and not really random). And you still have idot repbulicans running in the state on shit like abortion, think what you like but stumping for it won't get you elected and it makes everyone else in the party unelectable its a pro-choice state and you aren't changing it. We were lucky to get the pro-trump bumps in 2016/18 but fucking 2020 and the the joke that 2022 with 30k "accidental" ballots that happened to upend every close race we had well.... Here we are. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNShewter: Fighting pot is my guess. I’ve only been here 7 years. That was sorta part of it, the weed stuff when passed was actually on a citizen initiative, and both parties didn't want it (cuz the bill was written like shit). But all the stoners came out to vote for and elected Dems while they were at it, and the Dems siezed the opportunity to pass the mag ban, and various electoral stuff. Since then its been variously stupid shit, but the most exploited one you see in all the attack ads is the pro-life stuff. Like literally, even with magical republican majority I doubt that would change. Don't make that your #1 issue, cuz you will get spit roasted for it. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:21:44 PM EDT
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Also out of curiosity, does a garand fit under the stupid ban? no detachable mag, no pistol grip, no other "features" but there is some variously fucky wording in the ban on fixed mags too. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Also out of curiosity, does a garand fit under the stupid ban? no detachable mag, no pistol grip, no other "features" but there is some variously fucky wording in the ban on fixed mags too. It's semi-auto, so inherently evil. Oh, and it really is a Weapon of War, don't forget that. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Weed, gays and the A word. Abortion? We have had a string of horribly inept and toxic people running for state house. Douglas Bruce didn't do us any favors, Boebert probably isn't either. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:24:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Also out of curiosity, does a garand fit under the stupid ban? no detachable mag, no pistol grip, no other "features" but there is some variously fucky wording in the ban on fixed mags too. Can it accept a bayonet, or hold more than 5 rounds? |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:28:58 PM EDT
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The wording of this bill makes it sound like even swapping uppers on an AR-15 wouldn't be legal. What about buying lowers pre-ban and then completing them later? Buying complete uppers?
I feel like there is still a lot of legal grey area. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:02:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: The wording of this bill makes it sound like even swapping uppers on an AR-15 wouldn't be legal. What about buying lowers pre-ban and then completing them later? Buying complete uppers? I feel like there is still a lot of legal grey area. Good luck fucking enforcing that. I think we're going to see most major tactical distributors stop shipping to Colorado, just like Washington and all of the small mom and pop LGS are going to close as they can't compete with Bass Pro/Cabelas/Scheels on Fudd Gun sales. Smaller distributors will probably skirt the rules and sell. You can always drive into cheyenne or SLC and buy what you want parts wise of course. If you don't have Stripped lowers for everything you want by July 1st, good fucking luck. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 10:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Good luck fucking enforcing that. I think we're going to see most major tactical distributors stop shipping to Colorado, just like Washington and all of the small mom and pop LGS are going to close as they can't compete with Bass Pro/Cabelas/Scheels on Fudd Gun sales. Smaller distributors will probably skirt the rules and sell. You can always drive into cheyenne or SLC and buy what you want parts wise of course. If you don't have Stripped lowers for everything you want by July 1st, good fucking luck. Agreed. This'll kill most of the medium to small ones. Especially if their inventory is primarily marketed to black rifles. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 11:06:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Weed, gays and the A word. You don't yell about that shit, especially the first 2 in a purple state. You say "I'm live and let live, and if it 'neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg,' then IDGAF.". I'm talking about people like Lori Saine. She and others didn't know when to STFU. ETA- Karen likes her $, but she's also sympathetic to her hairdresser. Anecdotally, I'd say at least 15% of R voters smoke the Devil's Lettuce. Makes sense. The trend on both sides is for the parties to basically line up behind national politics even if that's a no-go in their state. It's what the party base cares about, so it's what wins primaries. Good luck in the general though. Sigh, I should probably grab a couple stripped lowers. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:37:29 AM EDT
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Does anyone know if the safety clause on the AWB means it will go into effect immediately after being signed into law? I saw someone post that on Twitter and that affects my timing significantly considering our stupid 3 day wait period.
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:00:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Does anyone know if the safety clause on the AWB means it will go into effect immediately after being signed into law? I saw someone post that on Twitter and that affects my timing significantly considering our stupid 3 day wait period. Usually stuff takes effect on July 1. That was the case with the mag ban. |
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Posted: 3/22/2024 9:24:49 PM EDT
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1292 shelved/postponed from house vote.
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slickbaby: 1292 shelved/postponed from house vote. My guess is that there is fuckery afoot... They can still amend it right? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 10:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: My guess is that there is fuckery afoot... They can still amend it right? 1. They can't ignore the amount of people that are speaking out. 2.The Bill as written is full of holes. I think they expect If they can't get the holes fixed it may be struck down. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 12:29:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slickbaby: 1292 shelved/postponed from house vote.  |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 7:24:33 AM EDT
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I hope Colorado can beat this bill.
Best of luck to you all. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 1:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: My guess is 1. They can't ignore the amount of people that are speaking out. 2.The Bill as written is full of holes. I think they expect If they can't get the holes fixed it may be struck down. Both are true. But I doubt they care too much about point 1. The bill is a pile of shit, there will be suit filed on day1 if it goes thru, I think any amendments will be to try to shore it up legally. Secondly I'm sure they are already judge shopping on the federal level to make sure it doesnt get stayed immediately. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 7:58:01 PM EDT
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Did they can it because Federal fuckery is afoot?
One or two more Rinos “retire” and its field day. |
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Posted: 3/23/2024 8:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hockeysew: Did they can it because Federal fuckery is afoot? One or two more Rinos “retire” and its field day. I'm thinking this. It all stinks |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 5:39:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SullanMarch]
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People keep saying it's been shelved (not just here, also in other places), and I'm not sure where they're getting their information. It's getting read in the house tomorrow (Monday): https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292
Edit: Oh yeah, I remember RMGOs tweeting it. Still don't know why they thought it. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 11:14:20 PM EDT
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Well thats neat. We will know tomorrow EXACTLY how fucking stupid our politicians are.
Denver politican raising his arm to vote for the AWB:  |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 11:18:39 PM EDT
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It's crazy that a STATE LAW could have such inflammatory and demonstrably false information baked into it.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 3/24/2024 11:39:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: It's crazy that a STATE LAW could have such inflammatory and demonstrably false information baked into it. This is statism. The religious process of forcing your will upon another. These people take physical pleasure in harming you. When you see a law like this being passed, the people doing it are smug control freaks with a fetish they are in the process of satisfying. Essentially, it's a form of rape. Rape of the mind, rape of the body, rape of the finances, rape of everything that you hold dear. So when you see bullshit, things you know to be a lie, this is pretty much the groomer behavior coming out to play on their part. The free candy van doesn't have free candy in it, and the AWB doesn't have a reduction in crime or negative outcomes - it has rape in it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 12:10:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vectorsc: I'll say it again...its hard to understand until you understand. This is statism. The religious process of forcing your will upon another. These people take physical pleasure in harming you. When you see a law like this being passed, the people doing it are smug control freaks with a fetish they are in the process of satisfying. Essentially, it's a form of rape. Rape of the mind, rape of the body, rape of the finances, rape of everything that you hold dear. So when you see bullshit, things you know to be a lie, this is pretty much the groomer behavior coming out to play on their part. The free candy van doesn't have free candy in it, and the AWB doesn't have a reduction in crime or negative outcomes - it has rape in it. Couldn't have said it better myself |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:36:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vectorsc: Well thats neat. We will know tomorrow EXACTLY how fucking stupid our politicians are. They're not voting on it in the house today. Today is the day that ammendments happen. The 3rd reading is when the vote on it (not scheduled yet AFAIK). Some rumors I've seen in a couple places. They're rumors, so take them with a grain of salt. 1) Bad new first: Polis contributed language to the admendents we already have - e.g. allowing inheritance. Many people are interpreting this to mean that he would not veto the bill if it came to his desk since he is cooperating early in the process. 2) Good news last: the rumor is that senate Ds don't want to touch this bill. One person reported this after having a private convo with a senate D. Someone else pointed out that the bill doesn't have a sponsor in the Senate yet as evidence. I don't know how significant that is at this stage in the process, but possibly the bill dies before it reaches Polis' desk. This is mostly reading goat entrails though. Don't put too much stock in either of these points. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: They're not voting on it in the house today. Today is the day that ammendments happen. The 3rd reading is when the vote on it (not scheduled yet AFAIK). Some rumors I've seen in a couple places. They're rumors, so take them with a grain of salt. 1) Bad new first: Polis contributed language to the admendents we already have - e.g. allowing inheritance. Many people are interpreting this to mean that he would not veto the bill if it came to his desk since he is cooperating early in the process. 2) Good news last: the rumor is that senate Ds don't want to touch this bill. One person reported this after having a private convo with a senate D. Someone else pointed out that the bill doesn't have a sponsor in the Senate yet as evidence. I don't know how significant that is at this stage in the process, but possibly the bill dies before it reaches Polis' desk. This is mostly reading goat entrails though. Don't put too much stock in either of these points. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Originally Posted By vectorsc: Well thats neat. We will know tomorrow EXACTLY how fucking stupid our politicians are. They're not voting on it in the house today. Today is the day that ammendments happen. The 3rd reading is when the vote on it (not scheduled yet AFAIK). Some rumors I've seen in a couple places. They're rumors, so take them with a grain of salt. 1) Bad new first: Polis contributed language to the admendents we already have - e.g. allowing inheritance. Many people are interpreting this to mean that he would not veto the bill if it came to his desk since he is cooperating early in the process. 2) Good news last: the rumor is that senate Ds don't want to touch this bill. One person reported this after having a private convo with a senate D. Someone else pointed out that the bill doesn't have a sponsor in the Senate yet as evidence. I don't know how significant that is at this stage in the process, but possibly the bill dies before it reaches Polis' desk. This is mostly reading goat entrails though. Don't put too much stock in either of these points. No Senate sponsor just means they're working on a deal with one of the Dems to retire with a nice payout or some sort of easy consulting gig. My money is Rhonda Fields will sponsor and walk away with a great big golden parachute of our tax dollars. She's certainly old enough. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 6:22:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harlikwin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: They're not voting on it in the house today. Today is the day that ammendments happen. The 3rd reading is when the vote on it (not scheduled yet AFAIK). Some rumors I've seen in a couple places. They're rumors, so take them with a grain of salt. 1) Bad new first: Polis contributed language to the admendents we already have - e.g. allowing inheritance. Many people are interpreting this to mean that he would not veto the bill if it came to his desk since he is cooperating early in the process. 2) Good news last: the rumor is that senate Ds don't want to touch this bill. One person reported this after having a private convo with a senate D. Someone else pointed out that the bill doesn't have a sponsor in the Senate yet as evidence. I don't know how significant that is at this stage in the process, but possibly the bill dies before it reaches Polis' desk. This is mostly reading goat entrails though. Don't put too much stock in either of these points. Thanks for the update at least. Sounds like Polis is trying to feel out exactly how much he can fuck people without massive blowback. The no inheritance was actually probably a good thing since it would make it way easier to have beat in court since its basically an uncompensated seizure of property. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 6:43:36 PM EDT
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member(s) of the senate are just waiting for their call from Soros ordering them to do what they were bought to do
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Posted: 3/25/2024 7:48:33 PM EDT
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Reading of the bill got pushed until tomorrow.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:23:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Reading of the bill got pushed until tomorrow. The 2nd reading? or 3rd? |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: The 2nd reading? or 3rd? 2nd |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 6:26:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: 2nd Any updates from today. I mailed the morons again, but well probably pissing in the wind. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 10:16:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Any updates from today. I mailed the morons again, but well probably pissing in the wind. Pushed again it looks like. Apparently they're having higher priority fights over the budget. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 10:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Pushed again it looks like. Apparently they're having higher priority fights over the budget. Let them fight. I mean, it does appear that the two sponsors for this bill don't really have their names assigned to any other big bills, so it may be just getting ignored. The two reps are communist junior reps, so maybe thats playing in to it as well. Also, they may have kicked a beehive and getting 10,000 emails a day is working to sway minds on whether this is worth it or not. Who knows |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:53:14 AM EDT
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NRA is reporting the same thing.
For the time being, Colorado gun owners have received a temporary respite, as House Bill 24-1292, the semi-auto ban, has been removed from the calendar. However, we must stay vigilant because gun control advocates can bring it up for a vote at any time! |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:33:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: NRA is reporting the same thing. For the time being, Colorado gun owners have received a temporary respite, as House Bill 24-1292, the semi-auto ban, has been removed from the calendar. However, we must stay vigilant because gun control advocates can bring it up for a vote at any time! Scheduled to be read today according to the website: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292 |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:15:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Scheduled to be read today according to the website: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1292 This kind of shit handicaps us. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:24:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: Where the fuck are they getting their information. This kind of shit handicaps us. They jumped the shark a little bit. It was removed from the calendar that day, to be read a different day. Hopefully it keeps getting pushed and pushed and then oh no no time left darnit, well see ya'll next session! |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:04:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harlikwin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: They jumped the shark a little bit. It was removed from the calendar that day, to be read a different day. Hopefully it keeps getting pushed and pushed and then oh no no time left darnit, well see ya'll next session! I might be totally overoptimistic in saying that this may indeed be the plan. Honestly the "conventional" logic for many years was don't push shit like this during a presidential election year cuz it will hurt them in the elections. Given their supermajorities though that logic probably doesn't really apply, unless they are really worried about loosing actual seats (IDK if they are or if there are any close districts/races or not at this point). So who the fuck knows anymore. Or it might be right that the "elder" party guys advised the junior commies not this year, the commies went ahead anyway and there is some internal BS. I got the distinct impression from last year that Polis wasn't really enthusiastic about this, which would shockingly make him a "moderate", or maybe he can't be bought off since he's rich already, but who knows what his ambitions actually are. Or I could be full of shit, and its full steam ahead on this and they are just fucking with us. Either way, keep sending emails/show up/whatever you can till this is confirmed dead. And the other bills for that matter. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:32:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: They jumped the shark a little bit. It was removed from the calendar that day, to be read a different day. Hopefully it keeps getting pushed and pushed and then oh no no time left darnit, well see ya'll next session! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Where the fuck are they getting their information. This kind of shit handicaps us. They jumped the shark a little bit. It was removed from the calendar that day, to be read a different day. Hopefully it keeps getting pushed and pushed and then oh no no time left darnit, well see ya'll next session! Yeah, the website is not necessarily always up-to-the-minute accurate. I check it, but I've been getting breaking information from a guy posting and commenting on the r/COGuns subreddit - he listens to every day's session live so that he has up-to-the-minute information. Hopefully he's listening again today. My suspicion is that there are plenty of Ds in both the senate and the house that don't want to touch this thing because it would be political suicide for them because they're in contested districts or they know that there are plenty of gun friendly lefties who might be convinced to switch sides, but they also can't be seen publicly standing against it because that would making their base unhappy and risk them getting primaried. Hell, some of them might just dislike the bill on the merits. There are pro gun lefties, but any of them who are politicians typically have to keep quiet about it to get elected. But they _can_ quietly manipulate procedure to kill the bill. "Oopsie, we ran out of time because we spent so much time debating the budget" or whatever. I'm just speculating here, but I don't think it's crazy. The true believing commie junior reps sponsoring this bill are burdened with none of these thoughts. Which is funny since Marx was in favor of arming the population and vocal about it. Things change when you're in a poisition of power, eh? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 3:54:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Yeah, the website is not necessarily always up-to-the-minute accurate. I check it, but I've been getting breaking information from a guy posting and commenting on the r/COGuns subreddit - he listens to every day's session live so that he has up-to-the-minute information. Hopefully he's listening again today. My suspicion is that there are plenty of Ds in both the senate and the house that don't want to touch this thing because it would be political suicide for them because they're in contested districts or they know that there are plenty of gun friendly lefties who might be convinced to switch sides, but they also can't be seen publicly standing against it because that would making their base unhappy and risk them getting primaried. Hell, some of them might just dislike the bill on the merits. There are pro gun lefties, but any of them who are politicians typically have to keep quiet about it to get elected. But they _can_ quietly manipulate procedure to kill the bill. "Oopsie, we ran out of time because we spent so much time debating the budget" or whatever. I'm just speculating here, but I don't think it's crazy. The true believing commie junior reps sponsoring this bill are burdened with none of these thoughts. Which is funny since Marx was in favor of arming the population and vocal about it. Things change when you're in a poisition of power, eh? This is where their philosophy departs. They cannot have an uppity armed peasantry running around. How are you supposed to politically route the opposing party when they *could*, in theory, revolt, because they *do* have arms and are equipped. It at least gives the commies pause, which they are supremely tired of. Every single time a population is disarmed, every single time, political and social oppression occurs. That's why the founders wrote the damn thing into the constitution. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 4:21:43 PM EDT
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It's all who, whom.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 6:58:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: The true believing commie junior reps sponsoring this bill are burdened with none of these thoughts. Which is funny since Marx was in favor of arming the population and vocal about it. Things change when you're in a poisition of power, eh? Don't worry, when they have power, their "guys" will be armed. |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:32:06 PM EDT
[#48]
Pushed again according to the website
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Yeah, the website is not necessarily always up-to-the-minute accurate. I check it, but I've been getting breaking information from a guy posting and commenting on the r/COGuns subreddit - he listens to every day's session live so that he has up-to-the-minute information. Hopefully he's listening again today. My suspicion is that there are plenty of Ds in both the senate and the house that don't want to touch this thing because it would be political suicide for them because they're in contested districts or they know that there are plenty of gun friendly lefties who might be convinced to switch sides, but they also can't be seen publicly standing against it because that would making their base unhappy and risk them getting primaried. Hell, some of them might just dislike the bill on the merits. There are pro gun lefties, but any of them who are politicians typically have to keep quiet about it to get elected. But they _can_ quietly manipulate procedure to kill the bill. "Oopsie, we ran out of time because we spent so much time debating the budget" or whatever. I'm just speculating here, but I don't think it's crazy. The true believing commie junior reps sponsoring this bill are burdened with none of these thoughts. Which is funny since Marx was in favor of arming the population and vocal about it. Things change when you're in a poisition of power, eh? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: Originally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Where the fuck are they getting their information. This kind of shit handicaps us. They jumped the shark a little bit. It was removed from the calendar that day, to be read a different day. Hopefully it keeps getting pushed and pushed and then oh no no time left darnit, well see ya'll next session! Yeah, the website is not necessarily always up-to-the-minute accurate. I check it, but I've been getting breaking information from a guy posting and commenting on the r/COGuns subreddit - he listens to every day's session live so that he has up-to-the-minute information. Hopefully he's listening again today. My suspicion is that there are plenty of Ds in both the senate and the house that don't want to touch this thing because it would be political suicide for them because they're in contested districts or they know that there are plenty of gun friendly lefties who might be convinced to switch sides, but they also can't be seen publicly standing against it because that would making their base unhappy and risk them getting primaried. Hell, some of them might just dislike the bill on the merits. There are pro gun lefties, but any of them who are politicians typically have to keep quiet about it to get elected. But they _can_ quietly manipulate procedure to kill the bill. "Oopsie, we ran out of time because we spent so much time debating the budget" or whatever. I'm just speculating here, but I don't think it's crazy. The true believing commie junior reps sponsoring this bill are burdened with none of these thoughts. Which is funny since Marx was in favor of arming the population and vocal about it. Things change when you're in a poisition of power, eh? Yeah, on the flip side, maybe they wait on things up until the very end and and then ram the shit thru? |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 7:56:06 PM EDT
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