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Use Federal 38spcl brass. There could be other brass that works but I know Remington won't and federal will. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo1-14.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo1-14.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo2-12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo2-12.jpg</a> Federal brass even worked with the 300 grainers. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg</a> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I agree, very nice. Wish mine was not at a stand still. Trying to decide if i should get the factory barrel threaded while I wait for the McGowan... they said 20+ - weeks on my barrel. Postban keep us updated on those 245 grain pills I am interested to see if they can feed from the mag. IIRC they will feed from the mag, but they need to be loaded in 38spl brass. If loaded in mag brass to mag length they bulge the case too much cause they have to be shoved in the case so far. Somebody, I can't remember who now, has had one of these done for a couple years now. I got that info from his posts when he was working up loads. Use Federal 38spcl brass. There could be other brass that works but I know Remington won't and federal will. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo1-14.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo1-14.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo2-12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo2-12.jpg</a> Federal brass even worked with the 300 grainers. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg</a> No gas checks on the 246 or 300 slugs? |
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I agree, very nice. Wish mine was not at a stand still. Trying to decide if i should get the factory barrel threaded while I wait for the McGowan... they said 20+ - weeks on my barrel. Postban keep us updated on those 245 grain pills I am interested to see if they can feed from the mag. IIRC they will feed from the mag, but they need to be loaded in 38spl brass. If loaded in mag brass to mag length they bulge the case too much cause they have to be shoved in the case so far. Somebody, I can't remember who now, has had one of these done for a couple years now. I got that info from his posts when he was working up loads. Use Federal 38spcl brass. There could be other brass that works but I know Remington won't and federal will. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo1-14.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo1-14.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo2-12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo2-12.jpg</a> Federal brass even worked with the 300 grainers. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg</a> No gas checks on the 246 or 300 slugs? So long as they are under 900fps or so, you shouldn't (usually) need them. At least that was the rule I was always told for reloading lead. |
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Who makes the stock? View Quote Boyds http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/FindAStock?Make=3Z&Model=A78&Action=27 |
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I agree, very nice. Wish mine was not at a stand still. Trying to decide if i should get the factory barrel threaded while I wait for the McGowan... they said 20+ - weeks on my barrel. Postban keep us updated on those 245 grain pills I am interested to see if they can feed from the mag. IIRC they will feed from the mag, but they need to be loaded in 38spl brass. If loaded in mag brass to mag length they bulge the case too much cause they have to be shoved in the case so far. Somebody, I can't remember who now, has had one of these done for a couple years now. I got that info from his posts when he was working up loads. Use Federal 38spcl brass. There could be other brass that works but I know Remington won't and federal will. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo1-14.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo1-14.jpg</a> <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo2-12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo2-12.jpg</a> Federal brass even worked with the 300 grainers. <a href="http://s3.photobucket.com/user/ptaylor/media/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y94/ptaylor/photo_zps9a339ab0.jpg</a> No gas checks on the 246 or 300 slugs? I've run them both ways in my 357Max barrel on my Encore. I've shot both the 250 or 300 grain Hunters supply bullets as well. I would rather not have the gas checks when running it suppressed. So far I've never had a check come off in the can, but that is always a possibility. To avoid this I had Tom at Accurate molds make me a custom mold. I had him do 2 cavities in a 250 grain and the other 2 cavities in a 300 grain bullet. both are plain based, so no need for a gas check. Both shoot pretty good with the nod going to the 250 grainer. ptaylor, thanks for chiming in on this. You were who I was thinking about. |
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Pic showing a PC 245gr with 357 MAG loads and 38SPL brass. Might be a tad long but the smaller meplat should feed better than the HPs shown.
None of my manuals has a >200gr 38 or 357 load so a little googling, I'm thinking 8.5-9grs of LilGun for a starting load in 38SPL brass. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=357%20Magnum&Weight=250&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source= |
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Bad pic. Need to work on the safety. For some reason it won't engage with either the stock or Volquartsen sear. I have a feeling the cerakote added a little thickness here and there. No test fire yet. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/d1e28a71603265f34ef0867682fd3a73_zpseeed81eb.jpg View Quote Very nice! |
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Yes the build might be complete but now you can shoot it.
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Absolutely stunning, I have no reason to get one of these but I will justify it by saying that the firearm itself is a piece of art so therefore one should collect them all!!!
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Hey GoLoud, it looks like your photo is going to be on The Firearm Blog here tonight/tomorrow. They just posted up the photo on facebook. Congrats
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Hey GoLoud, it looks like your photo is going to be on The Firearm Blog here tonight/tomorrow. They just posted up the photo on facebook. Congrats View Quote Very cool. Thanks for all the help and encouragement guys. Looking forward to seeing more builds. I'll get the Chrony out and start testing some rounds. |
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Anyone load using "Accurate 1680" for subs? View Quote Seems like it would work considering the other load I saw for super heavyweights was Lil'gun. Case capacity/bullet weight similar to 300BLK. Searched and found this thread ;http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?15558-Dp-68-wc680-aa1680 They mention the SAECO 352 which I just got and 35REM which I also load subs for. This is going to be a fun gun to figure out. |
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http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/3ed33bdc151526c572498ef9265af0a3_zps39f320bf.jpg A little buffing and the safety is good to go. I put about 25 rounds of 148gr Remington wadcutters through her and it shoots super nice. Very quiet. Wadcutters don't feed from the magazine reliably, but I didn't think they would. I zeroed at 75 yards and was hitting center of mass of a steel squirrel consistently while sitting in the snow. I'm happy, but a little bummed the project is coming to a close. Light weight, great balance, super quiet, cheap to shoot and nice to look at. View Quote Dang!! That's NICE!! |
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Been following this thread very closely and have to say that everyones rifles look great! Looking forward to seeing some more builds that are in progress. This thread inspired me to start my own build and I am well on my way. Bought the rifle, have the suppressor (SWR Octane 9), and about to send the Form 1 to SBR. I am most impressed with the build that "goloud" did and looking to do mine similar. Might go with the Ruger Factory Walnut Stock though instead of the Laminate. Not sure yet and also not sure on the optic I will use. If anyone has advice on a good optic for this rifle in the $250 price range, I would appreciate it. I don't have a lot of hands on experience with optics but have a great understanding of how they function. Would love to have some type of illumination but not totally needed. Will update and post as my build comes along. This is a great thread and I really look forward to adding to it and seeing some other members get inspired to build one. It's a great idea for a handy, quiet, and cheap to shoot rifle!
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Been following this thread very closely and have to say that everyones rifles look great! Looking forward to seeing some more builds that are in progress. This thread inspired me to start my own build and I am well on my way. Bought the rifle, have the suppressor (SWR Octane 9), and about to send the Form 1 to SBR. I am most impressed with the build that "goloud" did and looking to do mine similar. Might go with the Ruger Factory Walnut Stock though instead of the Laminate. Not sure yet and also not sure on the optic I will use. If anyone has advice on a good optic for this rifle in the $250 price range, I would appreciate it. I don't have a lot of hands on experience with optics but have a great understanding of how they function. Would love to have some type of illumination but not totally needed. Will update and post as my build comes along. This is a great thread and I really look forward to adding to it and seeing some other members get inspired to build one. It's a great idea for a handy, quiet, and cheap to shoot rifle! View Quote |
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Any one load 250 gr Speer soft point to see if they would tumble out of 10 inch barrel at subsonic velocities? Also how about the 225 gr Sierra game king?
If they dont tumble would they open up any? Energy numbers on the 250 look very good, just wondering if anyone has tried them in a short barrel to see if they tumble. Also there is 280gr Swift A-frame, but they are high, over a buck per bullet. |
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Anyone notice the suppressed SBR bolt gun
On "the walking dead" last week? It looked very very similar to the Cerakoted laminate one in this thread... |
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I had some questions about barrel length and inletting the Boyd's stock. Sorry for the bad pics. My barrel length is 8": http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/e9f08ab4f7b83f2742dabd676b1e177a_zpszpc9idzx.jpg The tape measure is resting flush on the stock at the point where the receiver and the barrel mate up. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/48cc7083928a00c3b6d17e0408afbb78_zpsgupamfmy.jpg It looks like if you cut the barrel to 10.5" you won't need to inlet the Boyd's stock. If you inlet for a barrel shorter than 8", you are going to need to trim the excess threads off the sling/bipod studs. As far as weight goes, I'd say the Boyd's is 1.5x the weight of the Ruger OEM synthetic stock. But it's not heavy. View Quote Thanks for the write up and all the info you have posted so far it has been enabling me quite a bit. Please keep us posted with any loads you come up with. I will probably go with a Boyd stock but I at least wanted to get this together and try it out with the factory one first who knows while I'm waiting on McGowan (only 16 more weeks)I will probably order one... Small update but I got the proper Ruger rings in yesterday so it's going together very slowly but it will be sweet when it's done. |
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Thanks for the write up and all the info you have posted so far it has been enabling me quite a bit. Please keep us posted with any loads you come up with. I will probably go with a Boyd stock but I at least wanted to get this together and try it out with the factory one first who knows while I'm waiting on McGowan (only 16 more weeks)I will probably order one... Small update but I got the proper Ruger rings in yesterday so it's going together very slowly but it will be sweet when it's done. http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu192/ajcmpeterson/gun%20stuff/CAM01794_zpscqa34bp4.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I had some questions about barrel length and inletting the Boyd's stock. Sorry for the bad pics. My barrel length is 8": http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/e9f08ab4f7b83f2742dabd676b1e177a_zpszpc9idzx.jpg The tape measure is resting flush on the stock at the point where the receiver and the barrel mate up. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh623/pmdata/48cc7083928a00c3b6d17e0408afbb78_zpsgupamfmy.jpg It looks like if you cut the barrel to 10.5" you won't need to inlet the Boyd's stock. If you inlet for a barrel shorter than 8", you are going to need to trim the excess threads off the sling/bipod studs. As far as weight goes, I'd say the Boyd's is 1.5x the weight of the Ruger OEM synthetic stock. But it's not heavy. Thanks for the write up and all the info you have posted so far it has been enabling me quite a bit. Please keep us posted with any loads you come up with. I will probably go with a Boyd stock but I at least wanted to get this together and try it out with the factory one first who knows while I'm waiting on McGowan (only 16 more weeks)I will probably order one... Small update but I got the proper Ruger rings in yesterday so it's going together very slowly but it will be sweet when it's done. http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu192/ajcmpeterson/gun%20stuff/CAM01794_zpscqa34bp4.jpg |
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Jim Pixley at www.jpgrips.com did my threading and set back front sight. snip... I didn't think the Osprey 9mm could handle supers? Last week I emailed SilCo asking if the OSP9M can handle 38spl and 357 mag out of a 11.5" Ruger 77/357 and a 12.5" leaver action. Their response was the OSP9M can handle them on 16" barrels. So I would assume it's good to go with 9mm. Plus it's good to go on 300 Blk subs. |
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Last week I emailed SilCo asking if the OSP9M can handle 38spl and 357 mag out of a 11.5" Ruger 77/357 and a 12.5" leaver action. Their response was the OSP9M can handle them on 16" barrels. So I would assume it's good to go with 9mm. Plus it's good to go on 300 Blk subs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Jim Pixley at www.jpgrips.com did my threading and set back front sight. snip... I didn't think the Osprey 9mm could handle supers? Last week I emailed SilCo asking if the OSP9M can handle 38spl and 357 mag out of a 11.5" Ruger 77/357 and a 12.5" leaver action. Their response was the OSP9M can handle them on 16" barrels. So I would assume it's good to go with 9mm. Plus it's good to go on 300 Blk subs. Huh... go figure. |
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Last week I emailed SilCo asking if the OSP9M can handle 38spl and 357 mag out of a 11.5" Ruger 77/357 and a 12.5" leaver action. Their response was the OSP9M can handle them on 16" barrels. So I would assume it's good to go with 9mm. Plus it's good to go on 300 Blk subs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Jim Pixley at www.jpgrips.com did my threading and set back front sight. snip... I didn't think the Osprey 9mm could handle supers? Last week I emailed SilCo asking if the OSP9M can handle 38spl and 357 mag out of a 11.5" Ruger 77/357 and a 12.5" leaver action. Their response was the OSP9M can handle them on 16" barrels. So I would assume it's good to go with 9mm. Plus it's good to go on 300 Blk subs. Well, I figured I'd go ahead and ask AAC what they say about 38/357 through their TiRant9. I figured my chances are super slim but might as well see what they say. I'm definitely inspired by this thread and have been looking for a stainless steel action and barrel combo to match a stock that I've had my eye on for awhile but a Mystic is 3rd/4th down on my NFA list. If by chance the TiRant will work I can at least get the build going and eventually add the mystic to the mix. What thread pitch are you running 1/2x28? ETA- The TiRant9 is g2g with 38spl, this could be bad for my wallet. If they inlet the stock I have in mind for the 77/357 action I'm definitely going to be in trouble with the wife |
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Favorite load in the 357 is using Sierra's 170 grain FMJ flat base silhouette bullet. You will have to tinker with it if you want to load subsonic in a rifle, but having loaded it in 357 cases with shotgun powder on a custom Thompson Contender with a AWC custom suppressor - it was awesome on steel targets out to 50 yards. A buddy of mine built up a custom load using the same bullet loaded in a 357 SIG case with the bullet sized down to .355, but I cant really recommend doing that. Some people can get away with doing that since their employer will cover all expenses for any mishaps, most of us taxpayers cant. Gotta get a Ruger rifle now. View Quote At least you can find the Sierra 170's....I prefer the 180's, flat point, great bullet and they are a little easier to subsonic. Can't be found....I even called the factory and they said, "We aren't planning a run of those currently"......Fortunately I mentioned to a buddy that I was looking for some. He used to shoot silhouettes back in the early 80's.....he had 11 boxes of them under his loading bench. I treat them like gold...... |
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Was the barrel shorten? View Quote Jim is the only person I will have shorten and thread barrels for me. His turnaround is reasonable as are his prices and the work is PERFECT, EVERY TIME. No excuses, no big promises, just solid craftsmanship. He's done either shortening or threading of over a dozen guns for me- everything from a Beretta 92 to my Ruger 77 .357...several 10/22's etc.... |
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Jim is the only person I will have shorten and thread barrels for me. His turnaround is reasonable as are his prices and the work is PERFECT, EVERY TIME. No excuses, no big promises, just solid craftsmanship. He's done either shortening or threading of over a dozen guns for me- everything from a Beretta 92 to my Ruger 77 .357...several 10/22's etc.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Was the barrel shorten? Jim is the only person I will have shorten and thread barrels for me. His turnaround is reasonable as are his prices and the work is PERFECT, EVERY TIME. No excuses, no big promises, just solid craftsmanship. He's done either shortening or threading of over a dozen guns for me- everything from a Beretta 92 to my Ruger 77 .357...several 10/22's etc.... Care to PM me his prices? Speficically interested in 10/22 and beretta 92 |
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Awesome! Great color choice on the Boyd's. It goes great with the satin finish.
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http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t468/killjoythedestroyer/0ea85a41-d72a-4c68-aa2f-5a7174d90479.jpg I am starting to get things in order for my build and will try to post in this thread as they move along. I bought my rifle a while back and have been to the range with it some and tested a few loads I made up. The best so far using Xtreme 158 grain plated FP with 3.7 grains of Titegroup. I purchased a Boyd's Laminate stock just like the one that goloud has for his build but I opted for the Nutmeg Laminate instead. It's a very comfortable stock and I really like the slightly raised check and wider forend. Right now I am using it with a Burris Fastfire 3 just to play around at short distances up to 50 yards and later will upgrade to a fixed power scope of some sort. My Form 1 was sent off about 2 weeks ago and when it returns I will be cutting the barrel back to around 8 inches and threading 1/2x28 for my SWR Octane 45. I was originally going to cut the forend of the stock off (about 2") to make room for the suppressor on the short barrel. After seeing goloud's pics and looking at it, it seems that inletting is best. The forearm has plenty of material and width for inletting. Really looking forward to getting it all together and posting the results. Should be very quiet! Can't wait to also try some heavier weight loads for it too. While waiting for the Form 1, I will be pillar bedding and more than likely glass bedding the action for a perfect fit between it and the stock. The fit between the two right now is less than perfect and the barrel is resting against the barrel channel. Even so, it has shot pretty well. Big thanks to all the posters and especially goloud who really inspired me with their builds. Can't wait to see more of every one else's completed projects. This is a very cool thread and have wanted one of these since I first saw an SBR 77/357 with a mystic suppressor on another forum. As she sits now: http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t468/killjoythedestroyer/e11020c5-135c-4c79-ad93-a2b5dbcc47eb.jpg http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t468/killjoythedestroyer/22009d14-6eb3-4068-b5a4-3245c83caf24.jpg 50 yards 9 ring is 4" dia. 30 shots at a fairly rapid pace http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t468/killjoythedestroyer/69677511-c893-40ac-805c-1e8c4e3cb0e1.jpg Load used above: Starline Brass 158 gr. Xtreme FP Plated Federal GM100M Primer 3.7 gr. Titegroup 1.440" OAL View Quote |
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As she sits now: http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t468/killjoythedestroyer/e11020c5-135c-4c79-ad93-a2b5dbcc47eb.jpg View Quote That's awesome. I really need to do this! |
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it! Will definitely update as it moves along. Going to be doing the bedding soon and will try to post details for those interested. Bedding this rifle is a little different than the norm. For anyone on the fence, even as the rifle is now I like it a lot. Very fun at the range and easy to reload for. Cheap too! Out of the box the accuracy is better than I thought. It's turning into a great project gun that's for sure. Many possibilities as far as setup and ammo choices go.
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Every update on here makes me want to go out and snag one of these!!! I'm waiting on more information on possibly doing a form 1 integral to save myself an sbr stamp. I've never done a from 1 can before though so I might be biting off more than I can chew.
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Every update on here makes me want to go out and snag one of these!!! I'm waiting on more information on possibly doing a form 1 integral to save myself an sbr stamp. I've never done a from 1 can before though so I might be biting off more than I can chew. View Quote I think I will do a F1 and pin it to a 9" barrel. |
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Yeah, that's pretty tight for this round/gun. I'm impressed.
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