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Posted: 9/15/2016 4:27:32 PM EDT
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DBAL-D2, Everything, No.
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Posted: 9/15/2016 10:19:05 PM EDT
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PEQ-15’s and ATPIAL-C's.
The ATPIAL-C is perhaps the best civ legal laser on the market, it gets high marks for reliability, compatibility with surefire tape switches, ease when it comes to zero'ing it, easy to manipulate controls and activation switch, as well as its low profile, it's vis/IR lasers are slaved which is extremely nice. It has a Laser based illuminator that has an much lower visible signature when compared to LED based illuminators and last but not least it is asthetically pleasing and comes in different colors. I've owned LDI/Steiner lasers but have had issues with them and find them to be less reliable across the board, not to say that are bad be cause they are not its just that the ATPIAL-C is better. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:02:36 AM EDT
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DBAL-D2, Everything, No. DBAL D2. Everything. BE Meyer's spaceship laser. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:38:59 AM EDT
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ITAL.. somewhere. Lost it. Really hoping I find it one of these days.
Wanted an ATPIAL but they're out of stock. About to pick up a CQBL. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:24:41 AM EDT
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DBAL-A3, wish I went with the ATPIAL-C.
I've had issues with the battery contacts on my DBAL. While shooting it will go dead and only fix is to remove batter and put back in. Also it seems to drain batteries left in so I have to store it empty which means I don't have a laser if I grab my rifle in a hurry. I went with it because of the adjustable IR illuminator but I would take reliability over that feature any day. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:25:04 AM EDT
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I had a look at the N-GAL ( L3 Warrior Systems size of a matchbox, not the NiViSys model ) a few days back and it looked pretty cool. If I could have a commercial laser, I think I'd go for that. I can't have one, of course, but if I could, it would be the one. Lately, my lasers have all been experimental out-of-band systems that can't be seen with normal NV kit, and it's kind of frustrating as they work really well for what I want but just can't be seen with normal kit, so I might have to convert a few to around 850nm - David |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:43:43 AM EDT
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Building my own PEQ-15 clone right now. Waiting on the 850nm laser module. Already fabbed up a 980nm 1W illuminator. IR only (may add selectable green laser in future), has remote switch as well as on board on/off clicky, runs off a single CR-123A. Laser point will be adjustable, and hopefully not recoil sensitive once I'm done with it.
Project total cost should hopefully be around $100 |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:00:42 AM EDT
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DBAL-A3, wish I went with the ATPIAL-C. I've had issues with the battery contacts on my DBAL. While shooting it will go dead and only fix is to remove batter and put back in. Also it seems to drain batteries left in so I have to store it empty which means I don't have a laser if I grab my rifle in a hurry. I went with it because of the adjustable IR illuminator but I would take reliability over that feature any day. Hmmm, that ain't right. Get that back to Steiner. If you purchased it from us, we can assist if need be getting it sent back etc. but something is amiss. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:01:53 AM EDT
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Server lag...Double tap.
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:24:38 AM EDT
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DBAL-A3, wish I went with the ATPIAL-C. I've had issues with the battery contacts on my DBAL. While shooting it will go dead and only fix is to remove batter and put back in. Also it seems to drain batteries left in so I have to store it empty which means I don't have a laser if I grab my rifle in a hurry. I went with it because of the adjustable IR illuminator but I would take reliability over that feature any day. I have both the DBAL-A3 and ATPIAL-C and have never had any of those problems with either of them, you should get yours repaired so that it works properly with no battery drain or recoil issues. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:54:43 AM EDT
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If anyone does need the repair area of Steiner, here is the link.
 http://www.steiner-optics.com/repair-info
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:57:04 AM EDT
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1 DBAL-I2 (Green and IR laser variant). Wished it had the illuminator on it when I first bought it.
1 DBAL-D2. LOVE the amount of IR the illuminator puts out. Hated how heavy and bulky it is. 2 DBAL-A3. Absolutely perfect. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:13:49 PM EDT
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DBAL D2 I love the multi function on it and like the brightness output but I'm not crazy about how huge it is.
Buddy has an apital C, I like it better but I got a screaming deal on my dbal |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:05:53 PM EDT
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What IR laser do you have and what do you like about it? Is there something else you wish you had instead? Steiner OTAL classic Like: QD mount. Metal housing. Filter comes with it that effectively gives it a high/low output. For a class 1 laser, it REALLY has some legs/range. Works on any model AR-15 since it will work around a FSB. Cost is on the low end at $400. Dislike: No button, you have to use a remote tapeswitch. No IR illuminator. Is there something I wish I had instead: yes, which is why I bought the Steiner DBAL i2. Steiner DBAL i2 (9007 model) Like: QD mount. Metal housing. Button on housing so you don't have to use tapeswitch. Built in IR illuminator so one button fires both IR illuminator and IR aiming laser. (or you can do laser only if you wish) Cost is reasonable ($700) compared to some other offerings with similar features. Dislike: Doesn't work well for left handers unless you use a remote switch. The button is offset to the left side, and works better for right handed shooters. Unless you turn the switch to "off", there is parasitic battery drain. A little on the tall side (eats up some of your FOV through your optic) The adjustable IR illuminator doesn't increase the power as it narrows, it just narrows the FOV. I never narrow my illuminator because it doesn't get brighter - it just reduces what I can illuminate at a given distance. Is there something I wish I had instead: I would like a slaved visible laser to enable me to get a faster/easier zero, but to get that feature on a different unit increases the cost a minimum of $600. I'm ok with saving the money and taking more time to zero the gun (and having to zero at night). |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:18:21 PM EDT
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Waiting on my DBAL I2 Single Spectrum from TNVC. It doesn't have a visible laser to aid in sight-in, so we'll see how that goes. In the mean time, I'm borrowing a friend's ATPIAL and wondering if I should have gone with that instead (although the cost is significantly higher, almost double actually.)
I opted out of the visible laser version initially because it seemed to cost way too much incrementally to just add a visible laser (over $400.) DBAL I2 SS - $702 DBAL A3 - $1,116 ($414 more) ATPIAL - $1299 ($597 more) Unless there is some other feature or functionality that the A3 has over the i2SS (other than the laser), I don't see the value in spending that much for a visible laser. And the ATPIAL is nearly double the cost of the I2SS Maybe if you move the laser around to different hosts a lot the visible laser makes sense to aid in sight adjustments. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:22:02 PM EDT
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i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner
i want a b.e. meyers MAWL  |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:44:44 PM EDT
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Waiting on my DBAL I2 Single Spectrum from TNVC. It doesn't have a visible laser to aid in sight-in, so we'll see how that goes. In the mean time, I'm borrowing a friend's ATPIAL and wondering if I should have gone with that instead (although the cost is significantly higher, almost double actually.) I opted out of the visible laser version initially because it seemed to cost way too much incrementally to just add a visible laser (over $400.) DBAL I2 SS - $702 DBAL A3 - $1,116 ($414 more) ATPIAL - $1299 ($597 more) Unless there is some other feature or functionality that the A3 has over the i2SS (other than the laser), I don't see the value in spending that much for a visible laser. And the ATPIAL is nearly double the cost of the I2SS Maybe if you move the laser around to different hosts a lot the visible laser makes sense to aid in sight adjustments. The main value of the visible laser isn't to use it while shooting, it's to be able to check/set your zero in daylight. After travel, just verify that your optic and vis laser line up and you're good. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:50:27 PM EDT
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i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner i want a b.e. meyers MAWL Where can I find the patch in your avatar? |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:18:49 PM EDT
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Waiting on my DBAL I2 Single Spectrum from TNVC. It doesn't have a visible laser to aid in sight-in, so we'll see how that goes. In the mean time, I'm borrowing a friend's ATPIAL and wondering if I should have gone with that instead (although the cost is significantly higher, almost double actually.) I opted out of the visible laser version initially because it seemed to cost way too much incrementally to just add a visible laser (over $400.) DBAL I2 SS - $702 DBAL A3 - $1,116 ($414 more) ATPIAL - $1299 ($597 more) Unless there is some other feature or functionality that the A3 has over the i2SS (other than the laser), I don't see the value in spending that much for a visible laser. And the ATPIAL is nearly double the cost of the I2SS Maybe if you move the laser around to different hosts a lot the visible laser makes sense to aid in sight adjustments. Don't sweat it. I had the same thought process as you and am very happy with my i2 SS. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 4:00:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where can I find the patch in your avatar? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner i want a b.e. meyers MAWL Where can I find the patch in your avatar? i don't see any ir patches on their website right now. maybe they're waiting to restock. http://www.applied-store.nl/en/ here's what it looks like in the daytime  |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:41:12 PM EDT
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Does the ATPIAL-C have adjustable power IR laser output?
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:56:15 PM EDT
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it's from a company called applied orange , they're in the Netherlands. i don't see any ir patches on their website right now. maybe they're waiting to restock. http://www.applied-store.nl/en/ here's what it looks like in the daytime http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_3110_zpsxw5n7uig.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner i want a b.e. meyers MAWL Where can I find the patch in your avatar? i don't see any ir patches on their website right now. maybe they're waiting to restock. http://www.applied-store.nl/en/ here's what it looks like in the daytime http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_3110_zpsxw5n7uig.jpg That's badass. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:49:52 PM EDT
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Does the ATPIAL-C have adjustable power IR laser output? No sir, but you can use the filter caps to mitigate the .7mW IR pointer. Hope this helps. The A3 does have an adjustable IR laser illuminator in the form of widening and tightening the beam but tightening beam does NOT increase the beam strength as their full power restricted units do. The IR illumintors in both units are Class 3R for both the ATPIAL-C and DBAL-A3. Vic |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:07:01 PM EDT
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what do you like about it? Is there something else you wish you had instead? ATPIAL (The good one  ). I like how low profile it is. Functional. Combat proven.
I would LOVE a Dbal a2 (newer single selector knob). I like the QD mount and green visible laser option. Obviously it sits higher, but GL finding one in the wild. |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:37:56 PM EDT
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i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner i want a b.e. meyers MAWL I only use two of the setting, all the way to the right for full power or laser illuminator and all the way to the right for full power visible laser |
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:40:36 PM EDT
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VITAL
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:47:22 PM EDT
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VITAL And Atilla for the win! LOL 
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:12:54 PM EDT
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No sir, but you can use the filter caps to mitigate the .7mW IR pointer. Hope this helps. The A3 does have an adjustable IR laser illuminator in the form of widening and tightening the beam but tightening beam does NOT increase the beam strength as their full power restricted units do. The IR illumintors in both units are Class 3R for both the ATPIAL-C and DBAL-A3. Vic Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does the ATPIAL-C have adjustable power IR laser output? No sir, but you can use the filter caps to mitigate the .7mW IR pointer. Hope this helps. The A3 does have an adjustable IR laser illuminator in the form of widening and tightening the beam but tightening beam does NOT increase the beam strength as their full power restricted units do. The IR illumintors in both units are Class 3R for both the ATPIAL-C and DBAL-A3. Vic I was curious about that too. It looks like the ATPIAL-C has the blue screw that blocks the would-be high power outputs like the regular ATPIAL. Does removing the screw and selecting those positions do nothing? |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:41:03 AM EDT
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VITAL I have one as well. Only thing I don't like is the switch system. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:57:28 AM EDT
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Building my own PEQ-15 clone right now. Waiting on the 850nm laser module. Already fabbed up a 980nm 1W illuminator. IR only (may add selectable green laser in future), has remote switch as well as on board on/off clicky, runs off a single CR-123A. Laser point will be adjustable, and hopefully not recoil sensitive once I'm done with it. Project total cost should hopefully be around $100 Directions?
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Posted: 9/17/2016 1:00:27 AM EDT
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser.
It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 1:17:44 AM EDT
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I was curious about that too. It looks like the ATPIAL-C has the blue screw that blocks the would-be high power outputs like the regular ATPIAL. Does removing the screw and selecting those positions do nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does the ATPIAL-C have adjustable power IR laser output? No sir, but you can use the filter caps to mitigate the .7mW IR pointer. Hope this helps. The A3 does have an adjustable IR laser illuminator in the form of widening and tightening the beam but tightening beam does NOT increase the beam strength as their full power restricted units do. The IR illumintors in both units are Class 3R for both the ATPIAL-C and DBAL-A3. Vic I was curious about that too. It looks like the ATPIAL-C has the blue screw that blocks the would-be high power outputs like the regular ATPIAL. Does removing the screw and selecting those positions do nothing? Correct, inop since the unit is basically in low/training mode already. Vic |
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Posted: 9/17/2016 1:59:32 AM EDT
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser. It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year.  There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:31:43 PM EDT
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We now have a B.E. Meyers MAWL in our hands that my Training Director Don has. He is pretty impressed and it takes a lot to get him impressed. He has a few upcoming demos and training gigs and I hope to get my hands on it next.
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Posted: 9/17/2016 3:52:08 PM EDT
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We now have a B.E. Meyers MAWL in our hands that my Training Director Don has. He is pretty impressed and it takes a lot to get him impressed. He has a few upcoming demos and training gigs and I hope to get my hands on it next. I got next! |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 1:45:35 AM EDT
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Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser. It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
I'm glad I posted now. I honestly didn't know that. Looks like that's what I'll be putting on my 10.5. Awesome. Of course I'll be ordering from you guys! Thanks. Probably be a couple of months though since I just dropped $1500 on a suppressor and couple other items. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 10:51:54 AM EDT
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Building my own PEQ-15 clone right now. Waiting on the 850nm laser module. Already fabbed up a 980nm 1W illuminator. IR only (may add selectable green laser in future), has remote switch as well as on board on/off clicky, runs off a single CR-123A. Laser point will be adjustable, and hopefully not recoil sensitive once I'm done with it. Project total cost should hopefully be around $100 Directions? Once I have the unit up and running I will post a how too. If you can solder a little bit and use a small screw driver you should be able to make this no problem. |
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Posted: 9/18/2016 5:40:50 PM EDT
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i own an ITAL on my 5.56 upper and a LaserMax LMS-UNI-IR on my 22LR upper.
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Posted: 9/20/2016 9:06:41 PM EDT
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Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser. It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
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Posted: 9/20/2016 9:12:32 PM EDT
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser. It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
Yes. OTAL is Offset Tactical Aiming Laser. |
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Posted: 9/20/2016 9:20:13 PM EDT
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Right now, just so I have something......drumroll......lasermax IR laser. It's actually not bad but it's not super sturdy and I hate that it's not water resistant. I'd love to get an expensive one but $1000+ for something I'll barely use?! That's going to kill me when I finally do it. Ya don't have to spend a 1000, but do take a look at the OTAL IR units we now offer at $359. There is no comparisons vs. the LM unit in regards to strength, environmental, holding zero, mount, and for not that much more $$ nowadays. I can tell you and others I lobbied hard with several travels up to northern Kali pleading a lower cost OTAL line earlier this year. There is now no reason not to own an OTAL IR laser. It's the lowest price it's ever been.
Yes. OTAL is Offset Tactical Aiming Laser. +1. |
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Posted: 9/20/2016 10:09:25 PM EDT
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DBAL-A3
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Posted: 9/20/2016 10:11:04 PM EDT
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CQBL and wouldn't change a thing.
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Posted: 9/20/2016 10:52:38 PM EDT
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No one have a Wilcox RAPTR Lite ES?
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Posted: 9/20/2016 10:56:26 PM EDT
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No one have a Wilcox RAPTR Lite ES? I know people have them. I sorta want one... |
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Posted: 9/20/2016 10:59:51 PM EDT
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No one have a Wilcox RAPTR Lite ES? I know people have them. I sorta want one... I do to, was hoping to see someone mention their experience. I truthfully want to get the one with the range finder but that is very far down the road. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 8:28:17 AM EDT
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I'm using the Steiner CQBL-1 mounted on the top of my AR.
The IR laser is the exact same power as the DBAL Civ units, so although I'm losing on the day laser side of life (it being red) I only ever use a vis laser for zeroing anyway. The CQBL lasers are slaved, so I can use the red laser to get a solid zero, unlike the DBAL where each is seperate. The other thing I like is the unit is compact, and the laser is somewhat centrally located over my barrel, so no more offset issues. I've partnered it with a Steiner Mk3 light, which outperforms the onboard illuminators for my needs (CQB and 150yd max engagements plus the Mk3 has a white light function) The DBAL-PL would be amazing for CQB work if the buttons werent so stupidly placed and angled making it useless for rifle mounting. |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 9:15:49 AM EDT
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it's from a company called applied orange , they're in the Netherlands. i don't see any ir patches on their website right now. maybe they're waiting to restock. http://www.applied-store.nl/en/ here's what it looks like in the daytime http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_3110_zpsxw5n7uig.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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i have a DBAL A3 , it's tits. the only issue i had with the A3 was learning what mode i was in without having to look at the unit , maybe i'm just a slow learner i want a b.e. meyers MAWL Where can I find the patch in your avatar? i don't see any ir patches on their website right now. maybe they're waiting to restock. http://www.applied-store.nl/en/ here's what it looks like in the daytime http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v619/1iviper/IMG_3110_zpsxw5n7uig.jpg What's the IR strobe on the back of your bucket? |
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Posted: 9/21/2016 3:20:53 PM EDT
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No one have a Wilcox RAPTR Lite ES? I have one. I like it a lot. easy to zero, lots of features. Securely mounts to my rail, good functionality. All and all a good piece of gear. I am waiting for something better to give me a reason to replace it, but until then it stays.
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Posted: 9/21/2016 4:16:55 PM EDT
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CQBL and wouldn't change a thing. Me too- with the exception of 1) swap red vis for green visible, cause why not? and 2) a hi/low power setting for the IR. I've got a clip on ND filter that basically always stays on it unless I am shooting past 200 yards with the laser, which is never. |
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