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Link Posted: 5/15/2017 11:07:17 AM EDT
[#1]
Form 4 - suppressor
Check cashed: 19 JUL 2016

I'm on day 300, still waiting.
Link Posted: 5/15/2017 11:32:57 AM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By AR_Shorty:
Form 4 Suppressor - Trust
Check cashed: July 12, 2016
Dealer called with stamp in hand: May 12, 2017

WoooHooo!  Picking the Tranquilo up tomorrow!
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Picked mine up recently, amazingly good compared to my SF cans IMHO.
Link Posted: 5/15/2017 11:46:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ADRENALINE] [#3]
Form 1 E-File Trust
Submitted on 7/11/16
307 days and counting
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 3:40:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Control 2016324XXX
Submitted 7-7-2016
Approved 5-16-2017
SBR

All done.  no more form 1 to deal with.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 2:05:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dotcombust] [#5]
Sorry I don't have more details.

July 2016 (first week of) - two Form 4 trust mailed together w/USPS money orders
May 17, 2017 - two tax stamps received by my dealer.

Suppressors
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 8:12:50 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By delirious1:
Control 2016324XXX
Submitted 7-7-2016
Approved 5-16-2017
SBR

All done.  no more form 1 to deal with.
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313 Days, 45 weeks.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 8:43:24 AM EDT
[#7]
Form 1 E-File Trust
Submitted on 7/11/16
311 days and counting

control # 20163312xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:19:06 AM EDT
[#8]
geez, i've got a while then. my control numbers are 2016345xxx and 2016346xxx....

how many are they filing per day again?
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 10:54:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Feels like   0.0
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 2:16:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Form 4 Suppressor - Trust
Filed: 30 JUN 2016
Approved: 13 MAY 2017
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:12:59 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm seeing a bad trend on nfatracker.  More and more points are appearing in the 305-325 day period, and very few points are showing up after 12 July.  I'm thinking the number of forms sent in starting around then was huge.  It may be awhile to get through this pre-41F push.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 3:49:03 AM EDT
[#12]
I E-Filed two Form 1 SBRs on 7/8/2016, both one right after the other.

One of them was approved yesterday...
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 10:07:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Makarov] [#13]
SBR
paper form 4
trust
mailed 06/21/16
check cashed 06/27/16
approved 03/18/17
arrived to Dealer 04/04/17



SBR
paper form 4
trust
mailed 07/06/16
check cashed 07/09/16
approved 05/02/17
arrived to SAME Dealer 05/15/17


So, in this instance of all other factors being equal, a 15 day difference in mailing ended up being a 45 day difference in "Approved" dates. Those last minute submissions are really starting to clog up the works.



I now have all my pre-41f submissions returned approved.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 11:15:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Makarov:...

I now have all my pre-41f submissions returned approved.
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fink
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 11:50:12 AM EDT
[#15]
Form 1 SBR trust

card charged July 6

approved and received back on May 19

control number 2016327


Finally.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 6:11:48 PM EDT
[#16]
- Form 1 SBR individual (paper)
- Cashed 7/22/16
- Stamp received 5/19/17
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 6:27:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Form 4 Individual
Suppressor

Form 3
Submitted: 2/24/17
Approved: 5/2/17

Form 4 submitted: 5/10/17
Pending: 5/18/17
Approved:
Date received:
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 8:59:30 AM EDT
[#18]
Silencer Co. Saker
Purchased 7-8-2017
Form 4 Individual
Check Cashed? Money Order
Approved?
Arrived at Dealer 5-19-2017
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 10:20:43 AM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By aloric:
- Form 1 SBR individual (paper)
- Cashed 7/22/16
- Stamp received 5/19/17
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when did you mail it?
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 10:54:44 AM EDT
[#20]
Form 1 SBS (Trust / eForm)

Created & Submitted:  7/9/2016

Finalized & Stamp Received (e-mail):  5/19/2017
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 4:34:16 PM EDT
[#21]
7/14/16

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Originally Posted By c350z:

when did you mail it?
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Link Posted: 5/20/2017 7:46:14 PM EDT
[#22]
Form 1 SBR (Trust / eForm)

Created & Submitted: 7/8/2016

Finalized & Stamp Received (e-mail): 5/20/2017


And just think they are even working on Saturdays!
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 10:07:26 AM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By mrlumu:
Form 1 SBR (Trust / eForm)

Created & Submitted: 7/8/2016

Finalized & Stamp Received (e-mail): 5/20/2017


And just think they are even working on Saturdays!
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Form 1 SBRs (two of them) - one AR, and one Thompson

Both submitted 7/8/2016
One of them was approved 5/18
The second one was approved 5/19

Even though they were one after the other in submitting, there was a day apart for approvals...
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 12:32:07 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By JimmyT:
I'm really annoyed with Silencer Shop. I purchased two items on 6/5/2016 at the time when they were telling everyone that they submit the form 4 at the same time as the form 3.  Instead, I see on my account page that they didn't submit the Form 4s until 7/10/2016.  So I'm stuck in the thick of the mess and still waiting on stamps.  Not a huge deal but I wish you they would have been a little more honest about that up front.
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I just confirmed with them. They wait until the form 3 is approved before starting the form 4. I know that's what ATF would like but most dealers I've dealt with would do your form 4 as soon as they had a copy of the form 3 and serial number. That means anything you transfer through silencer shop add 2-3 months for the form 3 to your wait time which is now I'm sorry to say a solid 11 months and getting longer. That being said they charge 50.00 to transfer where everyone else is 95.00-100.00. Two months is worth 45.00 to me. I've purchased 4 suppressors from silencer shop. I live a few blocks away I guess the volume they do they can't afford any form 3 problems and then already have a form 4 submitted. I don't know what happens in that case but I don't understand how any form 4 issue would affect a form 3 that was still working through the system. That can is still going to transfer to that dealer regardless.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 12:56:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


I just confirmed with them. They wait until the form 3 is approved before starting the form 4. I know that's what ATF would like but most dealers I've dealt with would do your form 4 as soon as they had a copy of the form 3 and serial number. That means anything you transfer through silencer shop add 2-3 months for the form 3 to your wait time which is now I'm sorry to say a solid 11 months and getting longer. That being said they charge 50.00 to transfer where everyone else is 95.00-100.00. Two months is worth 45.00 to me. I've purchased 4 suppressors from silencer shop. I live a few blocks away I guess the volume they do they can't afford any form 3 problems and then already have a form 4 submitted. I don't know what happens in that case but I don't understand how any form 4 issue would affect a form 3 that was still working through the system. That can is still going to transfer to that dealer regardless.
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They must have recently changed that. Before you could buy one up until the final days of pre-41F and still did not need fingerprints.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 7:06:49 PM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


I just confirmed with them. They wait until the form 3 is approved before starting the form 4. I know that's what ATF would like but most dealers I've dealt with would do your form 4 as soon as they had a copy of the form 3 and serial number. That means anything you transfer through silencer shop add 2-3 months for the form 3 to your wait time which is now I'm sorry to say a solid 11 months and getting longer. That being said they charge 50.00 to transfer where everyone else is 95.00-100.00. Two months is worth 45.00 to me. I've purchased 4 suppressors from silencer shop. I live a few blocks away I guess the volume they do they can't afford any form 3 problems and then already have a form 4 submitted. I don't know what happens in that case but I don't understand how any form 4 issue would affect a form 3 that was still working through the system. That can is still going to transfer to that dealer regardless.
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They do now, but they weren't before 41F. Their Form 3s are coming back in 30ish days now, and it's too risky to submit the Form 4 early.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 8:13:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Form 1 SBR (e-form/trust)
Submitted 7/9/16
Approved 5/22/17

Only one e-form to go now; filed literally within minutes of this one.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 10:18:04 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By AlabamaPaul:
They do now, but they weren't before 41F. Their Form 3s are coming back in 30ish days now, and it's too risky to submit the Form 4 early.
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Seems like smart planning on their part.
I suppose it's a "Juice worth the squeeze" type thing.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 10:40:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


I just confirmed with them. They wait until the form 3 is approved before starting the form 4. I know that's what ATF would like but most dealers I've dealt with would do your form 4 as soon as they had a copy of the form 3 and serial number. That means anything you transfer through silencer shop add 2-3 months for the form 3 to your wait time which is now I'm sorry to say a solid 11 months and getting longer. That being said they charge 50.00 to transfer where everyone else is 95.00-100.00. Two months is worth 45.00 to me. I've purchased 4 suppressors from silencer shop. I live a few blocks away I guess the volume they do they can't afford any form 3 problems and then already have a form 4 submitted. I don't know what happens in that case but I don't understand how any form 4 issue would affect a form 3 that was still working through the system. That can is still going to transfer to that dealer regardless.
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If anybody still wonders why I didn't use SilencerShop at the end of Last year when I was looking for My Suppressor, this is why.  I originally figured 7 to 9 months of waiting, my current Estimate is 44 weeks, late October to early November.  Like I said in My Thread: I want to have my next Suppressor in my hands Before Christmas.
Link Posted: 5/22/2017 11:08:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg] [#30]
I'm going to have to call BS on form 3's approved in 30 days. They are running 60 min with form 4's over 300 days and climbing. My question is if anyone knows that as a dealer once you have a copy of the form 3 and tracking on the suppressor what problem could arise?
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 5:41:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I'm going to have to call BS on form 3's approved in 30 days. They are running 60 min with form 4's over 300 days and climbing. My question is if anyone knows that as a dealer once you have a copy of the form 3 and tracking on the suppressor what problem could arise?
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No, it's closer to 30 than 60.

Form 3 - Suppressor
March 21 Submitted
May 15th Approval
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:07:06 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By Muzap:
Form 1 SBR (e-form/trust)
Submitted 7/9/16
Approved 5/22/17

Only one e-form to go now; filed literally within minutes of this one.
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Got the second one today:
Submitted 7/9/16
Approved 5/23/17
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 4:22:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Form 1 SBR (Trust / eForm) 

Created & Submitted: 7/11/2016 

Email 'Approved': 5/24/2017
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 5:53:21 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Form 1 SBR (Trust / eForm) 

Created & Submitted: 7/11/2016 

Email 'Approved': 5/24/2017
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fuck yes

what was your control #?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 6:59:33 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Form 1 SBR (Trust / eForm) 

Created & Submitted: 7/11/2016 

Email 'Approved': 5/24/2017
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Damn, still havent heard anything back on my 7-10
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 12:40:27 PM EDT
[#36]
Still waiting on 2 F1 SBRs filed/cashed on 7/11/16. 
# 20163336xx and 20163337xx
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#37]
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Originally Posted By K2enemy:
Still waiting on 2 F1 SBRs filed/cashed on 7/11/16. 
# 20163336xx and 20163337xx
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Still waiting on a F1 SBR Efiled on 7/11/16, # 20163294xx

I don't know if the control numbers do much for us though in tracking it, I've seen claims of people getting 7/12 forms back already. My guess is, ours are in the slow guys stack of forms to process.
Link Posted: 5/26/2017 8:36:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Finally got my Dead Air Ghost 45 out of prison.

Purchased 7/5/2016
Pending date ?
Approved  5/10/2017
Stamp at LGS 5/25/2017
Picked up on 5/26/2017

Still awaiting stamp for my can purchased 6/29/2017 at same LGS.
Link Posted: 5/27/2017 12:14:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: R3dundantC] [#39]
Paper Form 1, Individual
Submitted 7/11/16
Cashed  7/19/16
Approved 5/22/17

315 days
Link Posted: 5/27/2017 12:58:15 AM EDT
[#40]
is 29 days for a stamp to reach my dealer after approval. Is that normal? At 60 I can get a certified copy right?
Link Posted: 5/27/2017 7:48:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 7:28:19 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks like they are working overtime!  

Form 1 efiled July 7
Approved last night at 8PM

One more to go...
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 1:36:42 PM EDT
[#43]
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Originally Posted By RiverRunner1969:
Looks like they are working overtime!  

Form 1 efiled July 7
Approved last night at 8PM

One more to go...
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And my last one one was approved this morning.  I guess they really are working weekends on this.

efiled July 7 (SBR)
Approved this morning at 10AM

Weird feeling not having any applications pending...will have to do something about that.
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 2:44:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I'm going to have to call BS on form 3's approved in 30 days. They are running 60 min with form 4's over 300 days and climbing. My question is if anyone knows that as a dealer once you have a copy of the form 3 and tracking on the suppressor what problem could arise?
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I'm going to have to call BS on form 3's approved in 30 days. They are running 60 min with form 4's over 300 days and climbing. My question is if anyone knows that as a dealer once you have a copy of the form 3 and tracking on the suppressor what problem could arise?
Form 3's are at 4 to 6 weeks now. Last one of mine was a paper form 3 submitted around April 1st(I'm guessing since that was on the weekend it didn't get mailed to the 3rd or 4th) and it came back around 5-10. That was a form 3 on a transferable m16a2. I have another 2 form 3's at a month now to another dealer that I hope to get back soon so I can do the form 4's(the m16 is went to a gunsmith so he could give it a once over real quick during the inspection time).

Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
is 29 days for a stamp to reach my dealer after approval. Is that normal? At 60 I can get a certified copy right?
They used to say 30 days. Towards the end of last year I had one go missing and they were saying then it was taking closer to 45. Not sure if they are still at that.
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 2:53:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I'm going to have to call BS on form 3's approved in 30 days. They are running 60 min with form 4's over 300 days and climbing. My question is if anyone knows that as a dealer once you have a copy of the form 3 and tracking on the suppressor what problem could arise?
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You can call BS if you like, but our eForm Form 3s are running 26-37 days.
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 3:09:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
is 29 days for a stamp to reach my dealer after approval. Is that normal? At 60 I can get a certified copy right?
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When I get MY Form 4's in I go to AAA and have several copies made and Notarized
Link Posted: 5/28/2017 8:22:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By redtruck90:
Still waiting on a F1 SBR Efiled on 7/11/16, # 20163294xx

I don't know if the control numbers do much for us though in tracking it, I've seen claims of people getting 7/12 forms back already. My guess is, ours are in the slow guys stack of forms to process.
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Originally Posted By redtruck90:
Originally Posted By K2enemy:
Still waiting on 2 F1 SBRs filed/cashed on 7/11/16. 
# 20163336xx and 20163337xx
Still waiting on a F1 SBR Efiled on 7/11/16, # 20163294xx

I don't know if the control numbers do much for us though in tracking it, I've seen claims of people getting 7/12 forms back already. My guess is, ours are in the slow guys stack of forms to process.
Probably so 
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 11:46:29 AM EDT
[#48]
eForm 1 SBR
Submitted 7-11
Approved 5-30
Control #20163299xx
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 11:47:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Day 150
Link Posted: 5/30/2017 3:05:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JDangit] [#50]
Individual Form 4 SBR

Mailed 07-26-16
Cashed 07-29-16
Pending 07-29-16
Approved 05-25-17
300 days exactly just to approve
7200 hours
Arrived at dealer???
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