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Posted: 10/13/2014 12:55:10 PM EDT

For the past 6 months I've been surfing a good thread in militaryphotos.net on the Ukrainian conflict and found a few interesting ones. In addition to the early days when the Russian VDV occupied various places in Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea where they displayed Kashtan, Obzor and 1P29 the thread now has pics from the ongoing conflict in the east and there are some interesting optics in use. It looks like the majority of military issue weapons don't have optics though there are a few, and private forces appear to be using them more often.

I'd ask us to remember this is a technical forum and to keep the politics out of the discussion.

I just bought one of these and coincidentally they appeared in the Ukraine. HoloSun red dot

I think this is PKA original but I'm not 100% sure. Video was very blurry

Looks like an Aimpoint (and possibly thermal on the PK on the floor)

Oldies but goodies, 1PN58 and 1PN34

PSO or POSP 4x24

Kobra, looks like EKP-1S-03 without a sunshade

Interesting, looks like a Vepr 54R with 8x42 POSP

Guy with a lot of rails but no optic that I can see. This is a BP02 rail though

PKA Weaver (I think these particular photos are staged, but this group is operating in the Ukraine right now)

Older pics but looks like Russian VDV Airborne with 1PN93 Night Vision. On NPZ's website these are visually different but all seem to be labelled 1PN93 though I could be wrong

Thermal on an SVD Correction: DigiSight N750

Z

Posted: 10/13/2014 1:27:03 PM EDT

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Was pursuing those pics myself yesterday. I think you captured a lot of the good ones.

Posted: 10/13/2014 2:09:58 PM EDT

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Nice pics. Diverse set ups there.

Posted: 10/13/2014 2:24:13 PM EDT

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When does he realize his H-1 is mounted backwards?

Posted: 10/13/2014 2:26:00 PM EDT

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Wow.

Posted: 10/13/2014 4:02:03 PM EDT

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One guy in the first picture seems to have a vert grip mounted on the left side rail...
I wonder if this is for the "fire sideways over your head" method of cover/suppressing fire...

Also, this reminds me of a link The Firearm Blog posted about the same thing; I laughed because there were quite a few errors in optical identification and figured you'd do them one better Zen.

Here are the links:

TFB Article

http://imgur.com/a/oGmhi

Posted: 10/13/2014 4:33:25 PM EDT

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Hard to tell, but could the "lots of rails" guy be rocking an Obzor? Due to the interference of his sling it's a bit difficult to tell, but the configuration of the side mount looks very similar.

Posted: 10/13/2014 5:01:57 PM EDT

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sling mounted to cleaning rod.

Posted: 10/13/2014 5:37:13 PM EDT

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That VEPR magazine looks to be in 7.62x39. Seems a bit small, with no hint of ribs.

Posted: 10/13/2014 6:12:20 PM EDT

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Nobody ever accused them of being competent.

Posted: 10/13/2014 6:28:30 PM EDT

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Yup.

Neat to see one in action

Posted: 10/13/2014 7:55:32 PM EDT

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That VEPR magazine looks to be in 7.62x39. Seems a bit small, with no hint of ribs.

http://www.molot-usa.com/images/CB_Vepr.jpg

Hmmm...good observation. I assumed it was 54R in part because I don't have that model of Vepr and in part because of the 8x42. Seems like he really wants to be a DMR guy with that setup and 54R is the norm for that role over x39.

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Hard to tell, but could the "lots of rails" guy be rocking an Obzor? Due to the interference of his sling it's a bit difficult to tell, but the configuration of the side mount looks very similar.

Not in this case, definitely BP02. Obzor has a very different look to it especially from different angles. It also has a different screw pattern for the base ( two pairs of horizontal screws on Obzor vs two pairs of vertical screws for the older PSO and MTK83 mount) and is grey vs black

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I know...it makes me cringe.

Posted: 10/13/2014 10:51:28 PM EDT

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Nice thread OP.

Posted: 10/14/2014 12:37:35 AM EDT

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Gread thread Zen. Where can I get a HoloSun with Cyrillic writing?

Posted: 10/14/2014 2:42:23 AM EDT

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Paint it yourself. It says "To Ukrainian armed forces from the People. NOT FOR RESALE."

Posted: 10/14/2014 8:56:07 AM EDT

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Who makes the rail hand guard in the first pic with the holosun optics?

Nevermind...EDIT...looks like a GMG (Global Military Gear) product.

Posted: 10/14/2014 10:50:26 PM EDT

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Saw one the other day of an elcan on a PKM or similar variant.

Lemme look for it.

Posted: 10/14/2014 11:16:28 PM EDT

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Standing by for photos!

Posted: 10/14/2014 11:20:11 PM EDT

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Learning something new from those Crazy Americans.

Posted: 10/15/2014 2:32:07 AM EDT

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Great stuff ,thanks for posting.

Posted: 10/15/2014 10:16:44 AM EDT

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Some more pics

This guy's sight falls off the gun seconds after this picture was taken, btw.

Posted: 10/15/2014 11:23:14 AM EDT

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The last optic is a digisight n750. Not thermal.

Posted: 10/15/2014 11:33:45 AM EDT

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Thanks for the clarification

Posted: 10/15/2014 11:35:41 AM EDT

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/kmb147/12350_zpsb1794113.jpg
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Also a very awkward moment

Posted: 10/15/2014 12:14:24 PM EDT

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Also a very awkward moment

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http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/kmb147/12350_zpsb1794113.jpg
This guy's sight falls off the gun seconds after this picture was taken, btw.

Also a very awkward moment

he should've read your website on how to tighten the locking mechanism
Shows up looking tacticool, and his gear falls off, shit

Posted: 10/15/2014 12:42:06 PM EDT

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Ultimak, guy in front sporting Magpul stock

VSS or something like it? Dude on right with PKP Pecheneg

BSA red dot on ultimak?

Modernized Mosin Sniper... almost sounds like a bad Gunbroker ad

Posted: 10/16/2014 3:40:23 AM EDT

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Great pics, that Mosin is interesting.

Posted: 10/16/2014 3:55:25 AM EDT

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I can only imagine how heavy that thing is with that optic on it.

Posted: 10/17/2014 9:10:31 PM EDT

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Looks as if that scope could double for a missile launcher

Posted: 10/19/2014 11:44:41 AM EDT

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Any reveiws on those holosuns from in country?

Posted: 10/19/2014 11:47:54 AM EDT

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Damn good thread, thanks.

Posted: 10/20/2014 12:18:28 AM EDT

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Looks as if that scope could double for a missile launcher

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http://zenphotos.net/zenphotos/file/Online/SVD/Optics.mil/1PN34_AKM.jpg

Looks as if that scope could double for a missile launcher

US 1st and 2nd gen night optics were similar

Posted: 10/20/2014 1:13:55 AM EDT

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US 1st and 2nd gen night optics were similar
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I can only imagine how heavy that thing is with that optic on it.

http://zenphotos.net/zenphotos/file/Online/SVD/Optics.mil/1PN34_AKM.jpg

Looks as if that scope could double for a missile launcher

US 1st and 2nd gen night optics were similar
http://photos.imageevent.com/willyp/firearmsalbums/uscoltarmalitem16ar15556/coltmodel603xm16e1m16a1army/A1%20L%20W%20NV.jpg

Damn

Posted: 10/20/2014 12:15:50 PM EDT

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I always wondered what it would look like if a M16 was mounted on a LAW

Posted: 10/20/2014 12:46:45 PM EDT

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There is a hidden cookie monster in that image

Posted: 10/20/2014 1:50:56 PM EDT

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Lol

Posted: 10/20/2014 2:46:05 PM EDT

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Lol

I see it.

Posted: 10/20/2014 6:00:15 PM EDT

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I don see?

Posted: 10/20/2014 7:29:33 PM EDT

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good eye...

Posted: 10/20/2014 7:44:24 PM EDT

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I see it now.

Posted: 10/31/2014 1:31:45 PM EDT

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Looks suspiciously like PK01-VM Weaver to me. Note the taller elevation dial and the clamp that sticks out from both sides on what appears to be a railed topcover