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Posted: 6/22/2009 12:48:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Not sure how open you guys would be, but my dad has a lathe with a milling attachment in the basement and 40+ years of machining experience. The problem is we're in Iowa.... but depending on what needed to be done to the bolts, I'm sure he could do it. He did seem interested in it but I'm not sure what type of numbers he'd be able to produce and how long it would take.
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Posted: 6/22/2009 1:21:31 PM EDT
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This is a really kickass rifle, but cost is a huge factor for most people.
Coils noticed that the receiver was not heat treated. With a Nodakspud i believe you shouldnt have the problems w/ the axis pins or trigger guard. That may not be a huge issue after all. I mean damn the rivet job on that receiver look like shit, and thats being nice about it.  A properly heat treated receiver would never cave in like that or indent so badly (well without cracking/breaking).
I wonder how hard it would be to chamber the 7.62x25 in a 7.62x39's krink barrel  Trying to figure out ways of keeping cost down. Not everyone has the tools required to pul / pressl a barrel and headspace it back properly.
Well shit, it would be difficult turning the 7.62 barrel down properly, though ya'll did it on that rifle. Ya'll did use a 5.45 bc and "modded" bolt on your rifle. So using a 7.62 rifle may not be in ya'lls game plan. Just throwing ideas out there 
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Posted: 6/22/2009 2:46:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Jim mentioned to me, and this was over my head from a technical standpoint, so I'm not sure I understood right, but that they were using Garrand barrels cut down and with new extensions put on.
The point I got out of it was that the diameter is right and the bbls are cheap! |
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Posted: 6/22/2009 2:51:44 PM EDT
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Jim mentioned to me, and this was over my head from a technical standpoint, so I'm not sure I understood right, but that they were using Garrand barrels cut down and with new extensions put on. The point I got out of it was that the diameter is right and the bbls are cheap! Hot damn!!! That is good news to many. Hell it its blowback, i guess we wouldnt need a gas port hole. Cool stuff, especially if kits pop up w/o barrels from the barrel ban. |
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Posted: 6/23/2009 3:00:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Jim sat down and talked with the fab guy about my design and so far things are looking good. We may have a prototype soon.
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Posted: 6/23/2009 7:09:45 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Jim sat down and talked with the fab guy about my design and so far things are looking good. We may have a prototype soon. 
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Posted: 6/24/2009 7:33:42 AM EDT
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Here is what's going on. The AK is being developed by Jim Weishuhn who owns Erie Ordnance Depot out of Oak Harbor, Ohio. Eagle106 is helping him with developing the proprietary parts for the AK. http://shop.erieordnancedepot.com/ Good post. I've put some rounds through this rig myself, its as cool as it looks 
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Posted: 6/24/2009 12:44:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Here is what's going on. The AK is being developed by Jim Weishuhn who owns Erie Ordnance Depot out of Oak Harbor, Ohio. Eagle106 is helping him with developing the proprietary parts for the AK. http://shop.erieordnancedepot.com/ Good post. I've put some rounds through this rig myself, its as cool as it looks I have to say, at first I wasn't that excited about the whole thing but then Eagle106 brought it over..... I think I want one now.  |
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Posted: 6/24/2009 5:41:12 PM EDT
[#9]
If it is around $700, I'll be all over this. The ppsh semi conversions are going for $800+
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Posted: 6/24/2009 11:17:49 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm another one that shot it and was impressed with the workmanship and thought that went into it. Great job Jim and Eagle106.
You two make a great team and I'm looking forward to your next project.
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Posted: 6/25/2009 2:40:44 AM EDT
[#11]
That's awesome! I have a couple 74 kits and a pps kit. I just wish I had some extra cash.
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Posted: 6/25/2009 4:14:38 AM EDT
[#12]
I love that foregrip, please don't shitcan it. I am interested at $700-800.
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Posted: 6/25/2009 6:44:53 PM EDT
[#13]
VERY Interested...Do Want!
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Posted: 6/28/2009 1:09:06 PM EDT
[#14]
Any updates on this. Interest peaked
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Posted: 6/28/2009 2:20:23 PM EDT
[#15]
I see a lot of confusion and misunderstandings on the total cost of getting one of these. I think the OP / developers need to clarify that before people get their hopes up.
With that said, I'm definitely interested. I agree that the receiver probably wasn't heat treated correctly. An NDS receiver would certainly be a good selling point as they are considered top notch, but if you have to modify it, you may have issues with machining a fully heat treated Receiver. Have you considered talking to NoDak about making part or all of your 'custom' receiver for you? Regardless, IM me when you have a product and price. |
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Posted: 6/28/2009 3:17:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Ive been in email contact with Jim of Erie Ordnance Depot. The price i was quoted was $450 to convert an existing AK and $650 to build from a parts kit you provide. He said he will be using NDS receivers also. If you have specific questions he would be the guy to talk to
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Posted: 6/28/2009 4:56:43 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted: Ive been in email contact with Jim of Erie Ordnance Depot. The price i was quoted was $450 to convert an existing AK and $650 to build from a parts kit you provide. He said he will be using NDS receivers also. If you have specific questions he would be the guy to talk to +1, Jim is the main guy and will have all the answers you need. |
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Posted: 6/29/2009 7:40:18 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Ive been in email contact with Jim of Erie Ordnance Depot. The price i was quoted was $450 to convert an existing AK and $650 to build from a parts kit you provide. He said he will be using NDS receivers also. If you have specific questions he would be the guy to talk to which parts kit do you provide Ak-74? ppsh-41? ppsh-43? both? |
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Posted: 6/30/2009 11:31:58 AM EDT
[#19]
You provide an AK kit in any caliber.
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Posted: 6/30/2009 2:26:55 PM EDT
[#20]
The way I understand it you provide the AK kit and $650 and he provides the rest. If you email Jim directly He can get you all the answers you need
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Posted: 6/30/2009 7:22:22 PM EDT
[#21]
thanks but that puts the price of the rifle at around $1000+ with AK kits being kinda expensive. I guess I'll got the ppsh route, not as cool but cheaper
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Posted: 7/1/2009 9:01:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Barreless kits can still be had for under $200
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Posted: 7/1/2009 9:26:48 AM EDT
[#23]
If that price includes the receiver, then its a pretty good price to me. I wouldnt use a krink kit personally, but would love to use another kit.
Keep us informed and thx again for taking the time 
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Posted: 7/1/2009 6:13:45 PM EDT
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Jim will supply a barrel, receiver, magwell, and a rivit kit. The customer must supply the compliance parts and the kit. Remember when planning to buy compliance parts that the receiver, barrel, and (when we get the new bolts made) bolt will all be US parts. Talk to Jim for further information on parts needed.
The problems with the trigger pin egging out have been solved since he now has properly heat treated receivers, and he is adding a buffer to help soak up the bolt impacting the receiver. FYI, Jims email is [email protected] |
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Posted: 7/4/2009 7:51:43 AM EDT
[#25]
I've seen and shot the AR prototype Jim has- SWEET!
An AR upper or AK version may be in my future.... |
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Posted: 7/4/2009 3:03:29 PM EDT
[#26]
(when we get the new bolts made)
Are these going to be the same as a standard AK bolt (outside demension) but set up to hold the x25 round? |
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Posted: 7/4/2009 3:20:03 PM EDT
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I just bought a Yugoslav M57 Tokarev and have a 7.62x25mm AR upper on order.
The Tok kicks butt, very accurate and sighted in dead-on out of the box. I really like it. Can't wait for the 7.62x25mm upper to show up. Unfortunately all this interest will jack the price of 7.62x25mm fairly quickly, so if you are gonna stack it, stack it deep........ |
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Posted: 7/4/2009 3:50:55 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: ... and have a 7.62x25mm AR upper on order. From whom? |
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Posted: 7/10/2009 8:10:25 PM EDT
[#29]
UPDATE!!!!!!!
This is the prototype bolt that we got from our manufacture. The final bolt will have a few adjustments done and have a fillet between the return spring tube and the bolt body. We should have the first rifle up an running in no time. I'm am also working on a design for an AR-15 mag block to accept 7.62x25 magazines. |
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Posted: 7/10/2009 9:09:23 PM EDT
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UPDATE!!!!!!! http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt008.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt002.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt001.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt010.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt015.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt016.jpg http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu305/Eagle106/AKbolt017.jpg This is the prototype bolt that we got from our manufacture. The final bolt will have a few adjustments done and have a fillet between the return spring tube and the bolt body. We should have the first rifle up an running in no time. I'm am also working on a design for an AR-15 mag block to accept 7.62x25 magazines. That is sick! Can't wait to see the final product and price! |
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Posted: 7/11/2009 3:54:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Hey, that krink looks familiar.
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Posted: 7/11/2009 11:04:30 AM EDT
[#32]
"Tears of joy, stream down my face!"-Scott Stapp
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Posted: 7/12/2009 9:49:58 PM EDT
[#33]
I like the bolt design.
Are the bolts going to be available seperately and in a standad AK length? I think I could do most of the other stuff myself. |
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Posted: 7/18/2009 7:43:28 AM EDT
[#34]
After talking with Jim my understanding is that the bolt will work with Krinkovs, AMD and full length. It also will have a High reliability firing pin designed for it. It looks like they will be sold independently but I couldn't get him to quote a retail price. He said it shoudl be about 2 to 6 weeks before they hit the market.
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Posted: 7/18/2009 2:30:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Just so that it is clear, the mags are PPS-43 and not PPSh-41, right?
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Posted: 7/18/2009 3:10:48 PM EDT
[#36]
PPS43 is correct.
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Posted: 7/29/2009 5:43:12 PM EDT
[#37]
ANY UPDATES?
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Posted: 8/1/2009 10:51:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Why yes there are. After much anticipation it seems the first batch will be released from the machine shop Thursday the 6th.
We are having a firing pin made that is going to be the same length and diameter as an AK 74 firing pin but slightly harder and more abrasion resistant. It will be hardened with an ionization process. This will give it a longer service life and fit either 74 rifles Krinks ,Saiga rifles, and our bolt assembly these will be available as a replacement part or an upgrade for those who have a 74 type. We changed the design of the recoil assembly housing and are looking at stainless steel extractors. We have been working on the magazine well and catch. To make a more appealing and affordable model than the expensive PPS43 part. The goal is to make as many of the parts in the United States and in Ohio if possible. |
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Posted: 8/1/2009 7:20:08 PM EDT
[#39]
Are any of the 7.62x25 mags more abundant than others? I may be mistaken, but I thought there were more PPSh-41 mags out there.
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Posted: 8/2/2009 4:31:55 PM EDT
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Why yes there are. After much anticipation it seems the first batch will be released from the machine shop Thursday the 6th. We are having a firing pin made that is going to be the same length and diameter as an AK 74 firing pin but slightly harder and more abrasion resistant. It will be hardened with an ionization process. This will give it a longer service life and fit either 74 rifles Krinks ,Saiga rifles, and our bolt assembly these will be available as a replacement part or an upgrade for those who have a 74 type. We changed the design of the recoil assembly housing and are looking at stainless steel extractors. We have been working on the magazine well and catch. To make a more appealing and affordable model than the expensive PPS43 part. The goal is to make as many of the parts in the United States and in Ohio if possible. Any news on how we can get into the action on these, when, where & how much to buy. Please email info to [email protected] |
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Posted: 8/2/2009 7:37:53 PM EDT
[#41]
I have an AMD kit being converted right now by Jim. As soon as i get it back I'll post a review
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Posted: 8/3/2009 3:49:20 PM EDT
[#42]
+1 for getting in line for these....or is the line already around the building???
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Posted: 8/7/2009 3:27:01 PM EDT
[#43]
Very interested, and woudl like to know more about the magwell concept.
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Posted: 8/7/2009 5:36:31 PM EDT
[#44]
Unless the design has changed, the magwell will be built in a way that leaves the AK-47 receiver unaltered. Meaning that if later on down the line someone decides to drop the 7.62x25 they can easily convert it back into a regular AK-47/74. Also, unless I'm mistaken, it would allow a brave sole to convert their registered AK-47 machine gun without "manufacturing" a new machine gun.
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Posted: 8/12/2009 8:15:27 PM EDT
[#45]
The bolts are a reality. Some of the first run of 100 are ready to go to customer's builds. Here is a look.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/25mmw-logo.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/1stone-logo.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/logostamp.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/first5.jpg It is rewarding to see this become a reality. The extractors are stainless steel and the firing pins are hardened with the ion process. For abrasion and corrosion resistance. These are marked US made and are Title 18 section 922r. compliance parts. They are for use with the 7.62x25 mm cartridge. Which has been Dubbed the ."308 PUG" by one of my customers. A fun and cheap round to shoot. |
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Posted: 8/12/2009 8:56:46 PM EDT
[#46]
U da man!
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Posted: 8/13/2009 7:27:17 AM EDT
[#47]
who sells x25 ar uppers and what mags do they use? To bad these couldnt be used on x39 kits i have a rommy i would sacrifce but krink kits just laying around lol.
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Posted: 8/13/2009 7:45:50 AM EDT
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The bolts are a reality. Some of the first run of 100 are ready to go to customer's builds. Here is a look. http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/25mmw-logo.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/1stone-logo.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/logostamp.jpg http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p218/krinkers/first5.jpg It is rewarding to see this become a reality. The extractors are stainless steel and the firing pins are hardened with the ion process. For abrasion and corrosion resistance. These are marked US made and are Title 18 section 922r. compliance parts. They are for use with the 7.62x25 mm cartridge. Which has been Dubbed the ."308 PUG" by one of my customers. A fun and cheap round to shoot.  you da man!
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Posted: 8/13/2009 11:23:00 AM EDT
[#49]
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who sells x25 ar uppers and what mags do they use? To bad these couldnt be used on x39 kits i have a rommy i would sacrifce but krink kits just laying around lol. I think these can be used on any AK kit. correct me if I'm mistaken. |
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Posted: 8/13/2009 5:45:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Yes the bolt will work with AK receivers. One could take a kit and remove the standard barrel or use a kit that has no barrel. Install a barrel chambered in 7.62x25mm and then use my bolt and your choice of magazine.
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