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MAJOR Update! 01/23/19
REMOVED numerous broken/dead links! Also, remember that the term "80%" lower isn't a legal term. BATF doesn't even recognize that language. It's a term the industry invented. Pretty much MOST of the so called "80%" lowers will have the same amount of machine work done. The main difference you will encounter is some have the rear lug pocket machined and some don't. ALWAYS verify its what you are looking for BEFORE making a purchase! If a company CLAIMS their receiver is "95%". Keep in mind they CAN'T do anymore Machine work than other vendors! Before ordering any lower, VERIFY the information I have listed is CURRENT & CORRECT! I keep finding changes in the info. If you find any errors, please post the issue in this thread. If you are an AR15.com Industry Partner selling 80% lowers, Please post your information. THANKS! CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!! STANDARD Magwell Lowers (.223/5.56, 6.8, .22 L.R., etc) 80% Arms Material: 7075-T6 or 6061-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Anodized Type III or Bare Aluminum BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: 80 Percent Lowers Material: Aluminum Construction: Unknown Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Bare BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: American Spirit Arms Material: 7075 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Bare or Anodized ($15.00 Extra) BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: They claim it's a "95%" Lower, it's an 80%. American Tactical Parts Material: 7075 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: American Weapons Components Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged or Billet Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Anodized or Raw BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Unknown Comments: Anderson Arms Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Type III Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: NO Comments: Grip screw hole is tapped for a 3/4 long screw instead of the 1” Industry standard AR-15 Kits.com Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Bare or Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Yes Comments: AR-15 Lowers.com Material: 7075-T6 Construction: Forged or Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Raw, or Painted BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: AR Only.com Material: 7075 Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: Badger State Ordnance Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Raw or Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Billet Rifle Systems Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Paint BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Drilled and Tapped for the Rear Takedown spring Retention modification, Threaded Bolt Catch Screw Blitzkrieg Tactical Material: 6061 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Broken Armory Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Type III Anodized or Bare BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: Coats Carbine Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Hard Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: Daytona Tactical Material: 7075-T6 Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Bare or Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: DS Arms - INDUSTRY PARTNER Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: EP Armory Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Federal Armament Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Type III Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Ghost Guns Material: 7075 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Type III Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Ground Zero Precision Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Comments: Guns 80 Material: Polymer Construction: Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Comments: Hell Fire Armory Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Iconic Industries Material: Unknown Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknowny Finish: Hard Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: Worth a look! Not your "Run of the Mill" 80% Billet Lower James Madison Tactical Material: Plastic Construction: Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: As Cast Plastic in 3 colors BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Yes Comments: J L Billet Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Either raw or "Hard Black" BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Ambi Bolt Release and other features, worth a look! Juggernaut Tactical Material: 6061-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Type III Anodizing BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Comments: Marked with their logo (yuck!) KE Arms INDUSTRY PARTNER Material: 7075 Aluminum Construction: Forging or Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Anodized or Bare BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Yes Comments: M1 Machining Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Raw or Type III Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: M-16 Parts.com Material: Unknown Construction: Unknown Rear Lug Cut: It APPEARS to be Finish: Raw or Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: BEFORE ORDERING, I'd check out this THREAD Milzap Material: 7075-T6 Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Has a FUGLY "Logo" marked on it, has as many markings as a lower requiring an FFL Moriarti Armaments Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: New Frontier Armory Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Billet Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Bead Blasted BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: Drilled and Tapped for the Rear Takedown spring Retention modification, adjustable tension screw for removing "slop" between the upper and lower receivers, threaded bolt catch Quentin Defense Material: Unknown Construction: Billet Aluminum Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: They offer an “80%” that has an Ambidextrous Bolt Release, Threaded Bolt Catch Pin Right To Bear Arms - INDUSTRY PARTNER Material: 7075-T6 Construction:Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: Pictogram markings, wider flare cut in mag well Tactical Machining Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forging Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Yes Comments: Tactical Shit Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forging or Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Raw or Anodized BATF Approval Letter Supplied: Comments: Also offers 9mm 80% lowers The Flat Spot (Weldable Steel Receiver) Material: Mild Steel Construction: Welded, Brazed (super glue FAIL ) Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening, bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paints BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No. Comments: Thunder Tactical Material: 7075-T6 Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Raw or Anodized BATF Approval Letter: Unknown Comments: TR-Enabling Material: 6061 Construction: Billet Aluminum Rear Lug Cut: No Finish: Raw BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Comments: NICE Flared Magwell Vytamen C Tactical Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum Construction: Forged or Billet Rear Lug Cut: Unknown Finish: Type III Anodized BATF Approval Letter: No Comments: I think the price on these is too volatile to list, clinking on the link will quickly let you know that info. Anyone have ideas for other information.... |
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Do you want to have a separate entry per lower type at a vendor? For instance, ARES has multiple versions (no relation to them).
And, do you want to include everybody, or just those Industry partners w/ ARFCOM, or some indicator that it's an industry partner? How about crowdfunded vendors? I like the idea of a consolidated list; I'm lazy and don't like to shop. But, recent dealings with a chamber of commerce makes me ask about the Industry partner flag. They were espousing "inclusion" but only advertising those who were chamber members (non-gun related). |
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Originally Posted By sgt_seti:
Do you want to have a separate entry per lower type at a vendor? For instance, ARES has multiple versions (no relation to them). And, do you want to include everybody, or just those Industry partners w/ ARFCOM, or some indicator that it's an industry partner? How about crowdfunded vendors? I like the idea of a consolidated list; I'm lazy and don't like to shop. But, recent dealings with a chamber of commerce makes me ask about the Industry partner flag. They were espousing "inclusion" but only advertising those who were chamber members (non-gun related). I think what we will do is consolidate them on the first post. I think we need to list EVERYONE we can find EXCEPT Banned Vendors. |
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Hmm, I guess I wasn't clear. Having them all in the first post is a great idea. I'll be happy to clean out my posts so that they're not confusing, too. But, what I meant was, do you want to have a separate entry for each of the Ares parts. Such as:
Ares - 80 Percent AR-10 DPMS .308 Raw info info info Ares - 80 Percent AR-10 DPMS .308 Anodized info info info Ares - 80% AR15 Anodized Lower Receiver info info info ---------- Or, do you want them consolidated under one group? Yes, I'm probably over-thinking this. |
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Originally Posted By sgt_seti:
Hmm, I guess I wasn't clear. Having them all in the first post is a great idea. I'll be happy to clean out my posts so that they're not confusing, too. But, what I meant was, do you want to have a separate entry for each of the Ares parts. Such as: Ares - 80 Percent AR-10 DPMS .308 Raw info info info Ares - 80 Percent AR-10 DPMS .308 Anodized info info info Ares - 80% AR15 Anodized Lower Receiver info info info ---------- Or, do you want them consolidated under one group? Yes, I'm probably over-thinking this. No, I'm looking for input, I think your way of listing them is fine. What I would due is list ones that have minor differences such as finish as...Raw, Anodized, Cerakote on the same line. Thoughts? |
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| I'm not sure about other sites, but Ares has changed some of there 80% lowers in the last year or so, most notibly going from 6061 to 7075 on their forgings, and they also used to sell the JL Billet, but no longer. And I would imagine some other sellers have product changes regularly also. Is this going to be updated regularly? |
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Steel AR flats
Material: mild steel Construction: welded, brazed (super glue FAIL  )
Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening  , bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paints
BATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: No. Comments: $25 per/$6 shipping as of 7 AUG 2014. Heavy. Strong. Not CMP legal w/out replacement of trigger guard. 
ETA: Now $28 + shipping. And the DPMS style AR-10 lowers are out of stock: http://www.theflatspot.net/308-receiver-flat-dpms-style-like-ar-10.html |
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Originally Posted By skoffer:
I'm not sure about other sites, but Ares has changed some of there 80% lowers in the last year or so, most notibly going from 6061 to 7075 on their forgings, and they also used to sell the JL Billet, but no longer. And I would imagine some other sellers have product changes regularly also. Is this going to be updated regularly? I think it will HAVE to be a "living" document. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Steel AR flats Material: mild steel Construction: welded, brazed (super glue FAIL )
Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening , bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paints
Comments: $25 per/$6 shipping as of 7 AUG 2014. Heavy. Strong. Not CMP legal w/out replacement of trigger guard. http://www.theflatspot.net/uploads/6/9/0/0/6900641/6057196.jpg Looks GOOD! |
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EP Armory 80% polymer lower
Material: Kevlar reinforced two-color plastic Construction: mill out 2nd color biscuit, drill holes through integral side jig nubbins Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Plastic color. User can paint. BATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: No. (oops!  )
Comments: Discontinued. Manufacturer claimed no jigs needed. Blems and others may require jigs due to misplaced nubbins. May be illegal unserialized Title 1 firearm even in NIB configuration. 
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KT-15-B - The Franken-Stone AR Bolt-together
Material: Aluminum Construction: Bolted Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Bare BATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: Yes Comments: $250 as of 8 AUG 2014 
ETA: KT Ordnance is closing. This lower has been discontinued. |
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Custom Built Arms http://cbarms.com/80.html
Just finishing up a 308 build with one of their lowers. They are completing lowers for one of the rockethub campaigns, and I believe they bought them out. The 10/22 receivers are the best out there for 80%. I like them better than the razors receivers. |
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Material: 7075-T6 Construction: Forged Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Anodized Type III or Bare Aluminum Comments: takedown spring hole threaded |
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I like the idea of bumping to the top, or annotating those of us that are ARFCOM Industry Partners thats omeone mentioned above, because as users we should all be supporting the companies that make this forum possible for all of us to enjoy (and yes, as a vendor and as a personal consumer, I try my best to support and buy from other industry partners). I also think current cost should be listed.
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http://www.jtactical.com/
dont know how to make it "hot" link my 80% lower and comp are from them... here are the specs • MIL-SPEC Type III hard coat anodized in black, flat dark earth, special camo finish (or raw) • T6 Heat-Treated 6061 Billet Aluminum • Completed weight: 8 ounces • Integral winter trigger-guard for added strength • Flared magwell to improve mag changes. • Laser engraved JTAC logo • Broached magwell • Threaded bolt catch |
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Originally Posted By Guido1:
I like the idea of bumping to the top, or annotating those of us that are ARFCOM Industry Partners thats omeone mentioned above, because as users we should all be supporting the companies that make this forum possible for all of us to enjoy (and yes, as a vendor and as a personal consumer, I try my best to support and buy from other industry partners). I also think current cost should be listed. Good point, I will make changes. Everyone, please keep in mind This is not "my" thread! This is for all of us. PLEASE suggest any changes you think need to be here. |
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If there is ever a group buy for the CNC Guns 416 80% lowers, add me in.
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Steel AR flats Material: mild steel Construction: welded, brazed (super glue FAIL )Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening , bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paintsBATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: No. Comments: $25 per/$6 shipping as of 7 AUG 2014. Heavy. Strong. Not CMP legal w/out replacement of trigger guard. http://www.theflatspot.net/uploads/6/9/0/0/6900641/6057196.jpg Have you ever built one? It looks very interesting. And cheap, so when I screw it up I won't be out too much. |
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Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Have you ever built one? It looks very interesting. And cheap, so when I screw it up I won't be out too much. Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Originally Posted By backbencher: Steel AR flats
Material: mild steel Construction: welded, brazed (super glue FAIL )
Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening , bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paints
BATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: No. Comments: $25 per/$6 shipping as of 7 AUG 2014. Heavy. Strong. Not CMP legal w/out replacement of trigger guard. http://www.theflatspot.net/uploads/6/9/0/0/6900641/6057196.jpg Have you ever built one? It looks very interesting. And cheap, so when I screw it up I won't be out too much. There's a couple of threads out there: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/648352_I_welded_together_a_steel_receiver_from_theflatspot_net__Update_6_11_Paint_Job_on_page_3.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/647105_Steel_AR_flats_from_the_Flat_Spot.html I had mine almost all together w/ super glue, and then it came apart, and I've not had the time or interest yet to pick it back up again. |
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Polymer 80
Polymer 80 G150 Material: Polycarbonate Construction: Injection Molded Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Unfinished Black, available pre-finished. BATF Approval Letter Supplied: No Current cost: $95 Comments: -Supposedly the core is molded first then, the rest of the lower is molded around it. -Lower includes, jig, completion kit. (includes necessary bits and end mill.) -Molding sprue marks were quite apparent on mine on one side. -Surface is very smooth. (Fixed with a light media blasting, also eliminated sprue marks) -Screws included for jig were wrong size: #6FHST. Used #4 instead. -Weight when completed 3.1oz. 
-G150 is Gen2 of this lower. (Beefed up receiver extension boss, reinforced magwell.) |
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
There's a couple of threads out there: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/648352_I_welded_together_a_steel_receiver_from_theflatspot_net__Update_6_11_Paint_Job_on_page_3.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/647105_Steel_AR_flats_from_the_Flat_Spot.html&page=1 I had mine almost all together w/ super glue, and then it came apart, and I've not had the time or interest yet to pick it back up again. Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Steel AR flats Material: mild steel Construction: welded, brazed (super glue FAIL )
Rear Lug Cut: Yes Finish: Ships bare. User applies color case hardening , bluing, browning, parkerizing, tool dip, or various paints
BATFE Tech Branch non-firearm determination letter: No. Comments: $25 per/$6 shipping as of 7 AUG 2014. Heavy. Strong. Not CMP legal w/out replacement of trigger guard. http://www.theflatspot.net/uploads/6/9/0/0/6900641/6057196.jpg Have you ever built one? It looks very interesting. And cheap, so when I screw it up I won't be out too much. There's a couple of threads out there: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/648352_I_welded_together_a_steel_receiver_from_theflatspot_net__Update_6_11_Paint_Job_on_page_3.html http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/647105_Steel_AR_flats_from_the_Flat_Spot.html&page=1 I had mine almost all together w/ super glue, and then it came apart, and I've not had the time or interest yet to pick it back up again. Here's one I finished recently. Used Silver brazing rod to weld the pieces together. Works perfectly but a bit heavier than an AL one. Weighs 1 lb 5 oz. stripped. 
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If anyone was thinking about buying the Sub MOA lower but was scared away by the thread about the mislocated takedown detent hole, I can report that the lower I just received from them has the hole properly located.
I bought the pre-anodized one and first thing I did when it arrived was put in a takedown pin and detent to check it out and the pin is flush with the inside of the pocket when pushed out. Maybe the bad one was a fluke (or maybe mine is). It looks pretty nice, has all the holes it should. Haven't started milling yet, wish me luck. |
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Could have missed it but is anyone using Brokenarms lowers?
Ive got one shipping with there jig. Looked like a good setup. |
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Originally Posted By Lawdog-1:
I am building a ( Clone ) Property of the US Government, Colt M4A1 lower using KE Arms 80% lower. Found anyone willing to put that rollmark on it yet? |
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Originally Posted By Gas__Operated:
Found anyone willing to put that rollmark on it yet? Originally Posted By Gas__Operated:
Originally Posted By Lawdog-1: I am building a ( Clone ) Property of the US Government, Colt M4A1 lower using KE Arms 80% lower. Found anyone willing to put that rollmark on it yet? They do it all the time in the Retro forum. Mark the actual manufacturer around the trigger hole. |
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Being asked yet again, so I'm bumping with a request for experiences with specific lowers.
I'll start: Coats Carbine - I completed 2 of their anodized billet lowers as basic M4 configs, one 556 the other dedicated 22lr. Bothh turned out great, worked well with bot the Ares and the TM jigs. No issues what so ever. There are slight tooling marked visible through the anodizing, but not bad and you kinda have to be looking for them. Ares - I did 2 raw billets with no issues. Same tooling marks as the Coats, but much more prevelant. Not prefect, but still very nice. Anderson - I've only done one of their forged 80's but it turned out great. Only issue with them if you even want to call it that was the hole for the bolt catch needs drilled in addition to the "stsndard" 80% stuff. Not an issue in reality, if you can mill & drill the entire FCG, you can manage one lil hole that is practically self-located. Keep an eye out for deals, TM, Anderson, Ares and many others have had their 80%'ers under $50 many times. With winter coming, I'm sure chips will be flying! |
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I have 3 from HLF Manufacturing. Every one of them went together perfectly.
Stay far away from Advanced Rifles!! First time buying 80% was from them. I tried one of theirs and the front takedown pin was off location (too low) and would not allow the upper to close. I tried to contact them many many times for weeks with no response. |
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I saw the Broken Arms Jig Video and liked it, I also liked the 80 percent and the Modulus. I opted for the Modulus. Its a top down design.. I also bought there 80% forged lower. I'm happy with my decision.
Now I have to do some milling. I did mock it up on the lower in all necessary positions first to get comfortable with it. I did put some blue masking tape where needed so I wouldn't mar the finish on the lower. I'll post a pic. |
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Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
A little info to add. Tactical Machining offers an anodized option as well. Also, both of the 80's I got from Coats had the rear lug milled out. I'd like to see that, can you post a pic and the website? |
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Originally Posted By Realtor:
I'd like to see that, can you post a pic and the website? Originally Posted By Realtor:
Originally Posted By AFCarbon15:
A little info to add. Tactical Machining offers an anodized option as well. Also, both of the 80's I got from Coats had the rear lug milled out. I'd like to see that, can you post a pic and the website? Best I can do from a treestand. 
A few minutes later from another point of view. 
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A firearm is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Ya know for the cost of a jig, drill press.and router, you could have an entry level mini mill. If you ever want to do more than just 80%'ers you'll have a lot more options. Spring for a little more and BRD will be the least of your worries.
FWIW, I have a couple of jigs. |
A firearm is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.
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Ya know for the cost of a jig, drill press.and router, you could have an entry level mini mill. If you ever want to do more than just 80%'ers you'll have a lot more options. Spring for a little more and BRD will be the least of your worries. Not that I don't agree it's a far better way to go, but the investment is quite a bit more. One can get a small drill press for under $100 and a jig for about the same, routers (or a cross slide table) can be had for under $50. I don't think you can find the HF/Sieg mini-mills for under $550 +tax/shipping (new, anyway). Having said that, the speed with which you can complete the lower and the finish you'll get with even those cheap mini mills are vastly superior to what can be accomplished with ordinary garage tools like the drill press and router. However, should one decide to go with the mini mill, there are a couple of essential accessories for turning out decent work. -Ditch the drill chuck they come with. The HF/Sieg/Grizzly mini mill has an R8 spindle taper, and you should absolutely use collets for milling. A small collet set in 1/16 increments runs as little as $60. -Either a good clamping block set or (most likely your best option) a decent machine vise; 4" is a good size for these mini mills. I had one of these little machines for years before I got my Lagun FTV-2 (still have it for smaller secondary operations), and with a 4" tilt-swivel vise and DRO's, you can do quite a bit. They will never be able to make chips and hold tolerances the way a quality full size mill does, but if you're patient and your projects smaller, they are very useful. Add a tilt/swivel vise, a rotary table and a small indexer, the possibilities become almost endless. |
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