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Posted: 6/25/2015 4:32:03 AM EDT
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Recently, Pmags, USGIs, L5AWMs and other poly/hybrid mags can be had for darn near the same price on gun forum classifieds. I've always gone with the cheaper USGI mags, but just had to scoop up some Pmags and L5AWMs at these (USGI mag) prices. How would you rank current mag offerings IF PRICES ARE COMPARABLE? Lancer, ets, magpul, everything else. I haven't used my usgi in awhile, so i won't comment on them You can find them all around the same price, sometimes one may be cheaper due to a sale |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 7:42:17 AM EDT
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I like the M2 Pmags over the M3, never tried Lancers.
G.i. mags are ok, I have a bunch, but Pmags are what I use... |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Lancer, Magpul, and USGI. I have no experience with ETS group.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 6:31:24 PM EDT
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Between the 3 given, I would buy lancer first.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 7:18:05 PM EDT
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Lancer beats all.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 8:06:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/25/2015 8:27:23 PM EDT
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Lancers when I can grab them on sale. PMAGs usually. USGI when I can get them super cheap to stack 'em deep.
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:05:03 PM EDT
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I guess I'm the odd man out, at least if we boil the question down to the simple "which is my favorite"..
I like the Lancers and I like Pmags. But my hands-down 'favorite' is Okay/NHMTG. Only issues with lancers is that they're a little less tolerant of max-oal loads, or at least one long load I've tried in them (the Prvi 75-grain HPBT round); and they're harder to seat full on a closed bolt than the Okays or Pmags are. Other than that, I've had no negative experiences with Lancer or Pmag either one. But fact is, other than maybe three or four that have been physically damaged/malformed due to someone's actions, I've never had any issues at all with the Okays, in more than 30 years of using primarily that brand. Not meant as a knock on the others, I'd trust Pmags & Lancers with my life; I trust them that much. But a 'favorite' is an inherently personal, subjective thing. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:49:16 PM EDT
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Lancer beats all. What he said ^^^^^^^. I have been buying them for $9.19 shipped and have around 200 or so now. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 11:41:08 PM EDT
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USGI 20rd/30rd Pmags Lancers |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 12:24:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI disagree. They are very durable IME but they need to have a higher feed angle similar to the Pmag or Tangodown magazine. The Lancer uses the same feed angle as the GI magazine which is not ideal for high cyclic rate rifles. IMO Tangodown or Pmags are the best I have tried. Never tried the ETS mags. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 2:21:11 AM EDT
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Lancer, ets, magpul, everything else. This would be my exact order. |
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Posted: 6/28/2015 11:02:29 PM EDT
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Order of preference mirrors the Lancer ? PMag ? USGI
I picked up a couple of the ETS locking ones for novelty's sake, and am impressed at the quality. They're built very well, and are translucent; but I can't put them in the list until I've tested them personally. I have every expectation that they're up there in terms of performance. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 3:39:27 PM EDT
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Pmags and USGI for shear numbers in circulation. With the total numbers in use over the years you cannot argue their quality and dependability.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 11:55:15 AM EDT
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I own G2, G3 PMags and ETS mags. ETS mags all day and twice on Sunday! Awesome quality, awesome customer service and they look cool. All of mine function perfect and have a great feel to them.
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Posted: 7/5/2015 10:12:25 PM EDT
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Lancer AWM. All day long.
Even if they cost double that's all I'd buy. |
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Posted: 7/19/2015 2:05:56 PM EDT
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What he said ^^^^^^^. I have been buying them for $9.19 shipped and have around 200 or so now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lancer beats all. What he said ^^^^^^^. I have been buying them for $9.19 shipped and have around 200 or so now. Where? |
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Posted: 7/19/2015 6:02:43 PM EDT
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1. Lancer
2. PMags |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 3:43:30 PM EDT
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The PMag M2 (MOE) magazine is the most deployed polymer M4/M16 magazine in US Combat history.
It is fielded literally in the millions and outnumbers all other polymer magazines used in Iraq and Afghanistan, COMBINED. There is a reason for this. The PMag is the best all round magazine for reliability under all conditions. |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 7:11:49 PM EDT
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The PMag M2 (MOE) magazine is the most deployed polymer M4/M16 magazine in US Combat history. It is fielded literally in the millions and outnumbers all other polymer magazines used in Iraq and Afghanistan, COMBINED. There is a reason for this. The PMag is the best all round magazine for reliability under all conditions. Blah, blah, blah. My order would be Lancer/ETS, then PMAG. PMAGS, despite MPs claims, are simply not as durable as Lancer or ETS. Numerous private and independent tests have confirmed this. |
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Posted: 7/20/2015 7:16:27 PM EDT
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Lancer, PMag, everything else. I have no experience with ETS though, so they may be just as good. I find that Lancers are more durable than PMags while PMags are more reliable. Not to say that Lancers are unreliable, they'll work 100% in most rifles. If you have a rifle that is on the ragged edge of reliability though, the PMag will work while the Lancer may not.
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Posted: 7/20/2015 7:41:54 PM EDT
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Blah, blah, blah. My order would be Lancer/ETS, then PMAG. PMAGS, despite MPs claims, are simply not as durable as Lancer or ETS. Numerous private and independent tests have confirmed this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The PMag M2 (MOE) magazine is the most deployed polymer M4/M16 magazine in US Combat history. It is fielded literally in the millions and outnumbers all other polymer magazines used in Iraq and Afghanistan, COMBINED. There is a reason for this. The PMag is the best all round magazine for reliability under all conditions. Blah, blah, blah. My order would be Lancer/ETS, then PMAG. PMAGS, despite MPs claims, are simply not as durable as Lancer or ETS. Numerous private and independent tests have confirmed this. Just the facts. In the times of the most intense combat in 30 years the people getting shot at overwhelming chose the PMag for the exact reasons I stated. It is the best all round magazine for reliability under all conditions. For example, the M3 PMag (what the military tested) was the only magazine that reliability run M855A1 ammunition without accelerated wear to the barrel extension due to it's specific geometry. As such the latest USGI redesign (announced a month ago), has the feed angle and presentation very similar what has been used in the PMag for years in an attempt to duplicate it's function. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 10:34:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:...the M3 PMag (what the military tested) was the only magazine that reliability run M855A1 ammunition without accelerated wear to the barrel extension... Fwiw, I like pmags and have about 80 of them in various flavors, gen 2's and gen 3's, in 10-, 20- and 30-round. No complaints whatever; they're great magazines. I just hate the M855A1; imo it's a further step (a $30-million-plus step) down the same irrational road that gave us the M855 itself way back when. If the M855A1 is the load of the future for our military, then I want them to use whatever magazine works best with it. But imo having the best-feeding M855A1 is much like having the best turd launcher. I can have the best and most-reliable turd launcher in the barnyard, but I'm still launching turds. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 11:14:01 AM EDT
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OP posted asking for opinions on mags. No Magpul bashing going on, just some opinions of those that prefer Lancers, and STILL Magpul has to pipe up "ours are the best". Of course you say that, and I have no doubt you believe it. You make great stuff.
I am a Pmag fan myself but you are just making yourselves look petty. Nothing wrong with defending yourselves when being bashed or correcting if wrong information posted about your stuff. Butting in just because some dare to say they prefer another choice is not good form. Nobody really cares what your opinion on other mags are. You are a maker. JUST TRY to be the bigger man for once. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 12:15:05 PM EDT
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OP posted asking for opinions on mags. No Magpul bashing going on, just some opinions of those that prefer Lancers, and STILL Magpul has to pipe up "ours are the best". Of course you say that, and I have no doubt you believe it. You make great stuff. I am a Pmag fan myself but you are just making yourselves look petty. Nothing wrong with defending yourselves when being bashed or correcting if wrong information posted about your stuff. Butting in just because some dare to say they prefer another choice is not good form. Nobody really cares what your opinion on other mags are. You are a maker. JUST TRY to be the bigger man for once. Please read our Magpul Foundations to better understand our concept that education is the best form of marketing On a technical forum, disinformation is worst than no information at all. Reading some of the wisdom on these forums you could be mistaken in thinking that the primary criteria for a good magazine is how well it substitutes as a hammer. Our view is the primary purpose of a magazine is to feed rounds reliably in all combat conditions. We do a mind boggling amount of testing in designing our magazines and building to that specific goal. This is why our posted "unscientific" test videos include a full auto live fire test as the primary indication of a pass or fail (we also include things like high speed video-to confirm impacts and malfunctions, controls, mil factory ammunition and mil spec factory full auto rifle). 
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Posted: 7/21/2015 2:07:05 PM EDT
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<Comment removed......Please refrain from personal attacks in the future.......dpmmn>
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Posted: 7/21/2015 3:17:30 PM EDT
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My favorite is the PMAG.
I have had issues with various metal 30s (but never a 20 rounder). And I was at a rifle class when the Lancers were newly out and somebody brought one. It caused malfunctions in about a quarter of the guns it was tried in. Maybe the newer Lancers are better, but I just never gave them a chance after that first bad experience. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 3:53:26 PM EDT
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<Comment removed......Please refrain from personal attacks in the future.......dpmmn> I have been an industry partner here supporting the site for over a decade. We have no intentions of changing our policy regarding education in technical forums. As stated before... On a technical forum, disinformation is worse than no information at all. Reading some of the wisdom on these forums you could be mistaken in thinking that the primary criteria for a good magazine is how well it substitutes as a hammer. Our view is the primary purpose of a magazine is to feed rounds reliably in all combat conditions. My job has always been to counter disinformation through education. You can question the validity my points through debate and I welcome the discussion per our Magpul Foundations. Asking me not post information because it challenges your world view is just ignorant on your part and leads to a group think mentality in what is supposed to be a technical resource. |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 4:24:48 PM EDT
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Quote History<Comment removed......Please refrain from personal attacks in the future.......dpmmn> <Comments removed.......dpmmn> |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 7:48:07 PM EDT
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Lancer then USGI. Henderson Defense has some good threads on various platforms as they shoot thousands of rounds a month and put some real wear on their firearms and accessories. The AR thread HERE mentions USGI outlast ALL mags, even Pmags.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 9:20:25 PM EDT
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While I absolutely love PMAGS, my USGI mags with Magpul followers weigh less and have never failed me. The Magpul followers are the cat's meow.
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Posted: 7/21/2015 9:38:14 PM EDT
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While I absolutely love PMAGS, my USGI mags with Magpul followers weigh less and have never failed me. The Magpul followers are the cat's meow. Lancer and USGI mags!!!! |
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Posted: 7/21/2015 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Lancer and USGI mags!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While I absolutely love PMAGS, my USGI mags with Magpul followers weigh less and have never failed me. The Magpul followers are the cat's meow. Lancer and USGI mags!!!! And PMAGS |
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