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Posted: 8/8/2013 1:30:53 PM EDT
Our Nickel-Teflon BCGs are now available for purchase. HERE
  
Nickel-Teflon Coated M-16 Bolt Carrier Assembly. -Extremely Durable Nickel-Teflon Coating -Extremely High Lubricity -8620 M-16 Style Carrier -Carpenter 158 Bolt (MPI) -8640 Chromed Firing Pin -Machined Gas Key (Properly Staked) Coated Components Include: Bolt Carrier, Bolt, Extractor, Gas Key, Cam Pin These BCGs are designed for use in extreme environments. Easy to clean and versatile Nickel-Teflon coating provides the shooter with the ultimate in bolt carrier coatings. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 9:17:49 AM EDT
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Are these being coated with the key in place?
Also the material call out on the firing pin is; Material: Steel, AISI 8640 or AISI 8740. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 10:33:27 AM EDT
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Are these being coated with the key in place? Also the material call out on the firing pin is; Material: Steel, AISI 8640 or AISI 8740. These are being coated with staked key in place. You are correct, error in posting, these units are shipping with chromed 8640 firing pins. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:05:31 AM EDT
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish?
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:21:44 AM EDT
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:25:59 AM EDT
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Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. No offense, but you just don't seem terribly unbiased when your company is selling Nickle Boron bolt carriers. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:26:38 AM EDT
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I know I am new at this and do not know all that much but if it is being coated with the key in place how well will the finish hold up around the key? Am I right in assuming that below where the key is staked will not have the finish? I would assume that area would be a "weak" spot per say in the finish. If I am totally off here let me know just asking a question and trying to learn at the same time. Thanks
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:26:51 AM EDT
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No offense, but you just don't seem terribly unbiased when your company is selling Nickle Boron bolt carriers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. No offense, but you just don't seem terribly unbiased when your company is selling Nickle Boron bolt carriers. Facts are facts. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:32:42 AM EDT
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. No offense, but you just don't seem terribly unbiased when your company is selling Nickle Boron bolt carriers. Facts are facts. That doesn't make you sound any less biased, or classless bringing it up in their new products thread. A technical comparison of the two technologies over in one of the tech forums would have been informative and interesting to read. Instead, you just come across as another vendor crapping in someone's New Product thread. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:36:40 AM EDT
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I don't see 600 degrees as an issue. Bolt faces don't get anywhere near that hot. I doubt the inside of the carrier gets close to that hot.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:39:19 AM EDT
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That doesn't make you sound any less biased, or classless bringing it up in their new products thread. A technical comparison of the two technologies over in one of the tech forums would have been informative and interesting to read. Instead, you just come across as another vendor crapping in someone's New Product thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. No offense, but you just don't seem terribly unbiased when your company is selling Nickle Boron bolt carriers. Facts are facts. That doesn't make you sound any less biased, or classless bringing it up in their new products thread. A technical comparison of the two technologies over in one of the tech forums would have been informative and interesting to read. Instead, you just come across as another vendor crapping in someone's New Product thread. Nickel Teflon is also not as hard. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 11:43:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nickel Teflon is also not as hard. Quote HistoryQuoted: SNIP Nickel Teflon is also not as hard. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 12:44:54 PM EDT
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SNIP Nickel Teflon is also not as hard. NP3 is 48-51 Rockwell C scale. Nickel Boron is 68-72 Rockwell C scale. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 1:09:03 PM EDT
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The hardness ranges from RC50-68 actually. These units hardness is in the low-mid 50 range. The argument will always remain between Nickel-Teflon and a Nickel Boron electroless coating. The Nickel-Teflon has historically been used on many items that see far more abuse than a bolt carrier. IE: steel cutting tools, large gears, and also in very high pressure (and temperature) steam valves. We have used both coatings, and have access to both, we have chosen Nickel-Teflon based on the performance we experienced. The lubricity of the Nickel-Teflon is very high. We experienced a coefficient of friction of .06 using a 200lb kinetic load. The lubricity of the nickel boron units tends to diminish with wear, where as the Nickel-Teflon units maintained the same coefficient throughout the life of the coating.
Try it if you're still on the fence. We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 1:43:15 PM EDT
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I don't see 600 degrees as an issue. Bolt faces don't get anywhere near that hot. I doubt the inside of the carrier gets close to that hot. It's not really an issue, I was just helping state the difference(s). NP3/Nickel Teflon is actually very good. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 2:11:02 PM EDT
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Badazzar15 you need to get back to the industry forum and post some pics of the Dynacomp V2.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 3:24:15 PM EDT
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Use coupon code -
"AR15NTAUG" And receive 10% your order for a Nickel-Teflon BCG. Good for this week only. |
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Posted: 8/15/2013 10:07:46 AM EDT
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Sweet. I am ordering one right now.
Has anyone ever used nickle teflon coating in upper receiver or chamber lug recesses or lower parts like trigger pins etc? |
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Posted: 8/15/2013 10:13:45 AM EDT
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I'll have to check them out. I love me some Spikes but they seem to show their ass in other industry forums.
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Posted: 8/15/2013 10:34:28 AM EDT
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Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the Nickel Teflon finish compare to a Nickel Boron finish? Nickel Teflon doesn't withstand as much heat as Nickel Boron. I believe Nickel Teflon starts breaking down around 600* F. Which WHO CARES? Bolt groups never get anywhere NEAR that hot unless in a burning vehicle or building. (Nevermind... already addressed in a follow up post) |
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Posted: 8/15/2013 1:35:05 PM EDT
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Sweet. I am ordering one right now. Has anyone ever used nickle teflon coating in upper receiver or chamber lug recesses or lower parts like trigger pins etc? We have experimented with the ID of an upper being coated. We also sell hammer/trigger kits that are coated with Nickel-Teflon. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 2:09:40 AM EDT
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Just ordered mine, cant wait to try it out. Thanks!
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Posted: 8/16/2013 2:53:31 AM EDT
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So are these supposed to just clean easier, or do they require less lube?
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:26:39 AM EDT
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I'll have to check them out. I love me some Spikes but they seem to show their ass in other industry forums. I'm just looking out for you guys. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 8:30:49 AM EDT
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I'm just looking out for you guys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll have to check them out. I love me some Spikes but they seem to show their ass in other industry forums. I'm just looking out for you guys. Gtfo 
You sell more competitors' products than you'll ever know. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 9:39:08 AM EDT
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So are these supposed to just clean easier, or do they require less lube? Yes, and yes. Those are both features of the coating, As well as last much longer than Magnesium Phosphate. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:14:39 AM EDT
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Gtfo
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I'll have to check them out. I love me some Spikes but they seem to show their ass in other industry forums. I'm just looking out for you guys. Gtfo
You sell more competitors' products than you'll ever know. Good luck with your parts. :-) |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:28:15 AM EDT
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Originally posted by: TR_Enabling:
We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Looks like I don't need luck. 
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:30:18 AM EDT
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Originally posted by: TR_Enabling: We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Looks like I don't need luck.
Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. 
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:32:55 AM EDT
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Psshhh.
Ever heard of bayonet charge? |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:55:13 AM EDT
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Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Originally posted by: TR_Enabling: We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Looks like I don't need luck.
Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. As much as I appreciate your input  Having ACTUALLY been in numerous firefights... I would not hesitate to engage with our BCG cycling away.
BTW: Our last range day we put about 2k rounds down using this BCG, as fast as our burning forward hands would allow. Zero failures. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 10:56:07 AM EDT
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Maybe if we put a zombie on it Spikes would approve?
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Posted: 8/16/2013 11:36:43 AM EDT
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Maybe if we put a zombie on it Spikes would approve? I hate our Zombie logo. Lol |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 11:50:05 AM EDT
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Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Originally posted by: TR_Enabling: We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Looks like I don't need luck.
Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. How in the HELL is this not product bashing of a new product announcement? Spikes, you are making a real ass of yourself. If you want to bash someone else's product, you should keep it in your own industry thread. I typically like your products for the most part... but this taking a dump in someone else's new product thread needs to stop. This aint general discussion and it would be poor form even there, for an industry partner.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 12:00:28 PM EDT
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Maybe if we put a zombie on it Spikes would approve? I hate our Zombie logo. Lol Do you love the "other" logo? 
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Posted: 8/16/2013 3:12:06 PM EDT
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How in the HELL is this not product bashing of a new product announcement? Spikes, you are making a real ass of yourself. If you want to bash someone else's product, you should keep it in your own industry thread. I typically like your products for the most part... but this taking a dump in someone else's new product thread needs to stop. This aint general discussion and it would be poor form even there, for an industry partner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Originally posted by: TR_Enabling: We back this product as with all of our products with a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Looks like I don't need luck.
Yeah as long as your carrier key doesn't fall off in a fire fight you should be fine. How in the HELL is this not product bashing of a new product announcement? Spikes, you are making a real ass of yourself. If you want to bash someone else's product, you should keep it in your own industry thread. I typically like your products for the most part... but this taking a dump in someone else's new product thread needs to stop. This aint general discussion and it would be poor form even there, for an industry partner. I didn't bash anything, I simply asked a couple of questions, and stated the differences between coatings. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 3:42:23 PM EDT
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Well now I know never to do business with spikes. Stay clASSy spikes.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 3:51:31 PM EDT
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Well now I know never to do business with spikes. Stay clASSy spikes. From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 4:05:34 PM EDT
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From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well now I know never to do business with spikes. Stay clASSy spikes. From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. Finally |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 4:55:17 PM EDT
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From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well now I know never to do business with spikes. Stay clASSy spikes. From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. Firing pins are not stainless, as I stated before that was a mis-post. Some 9mm kits we have been working with used them but these carriers use mil-spec firing pins. And those keys aren't MIM bud. Again, those are mil-spec gas keys, take a closer look.
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Posted: 8/16/2013 5:09:53 PM EDT
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I didn't say they were stainless, you did. I just pointed it out, again to help.
These are the MIM parts that I was referring to. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_124/617987_Enhanced_Lower_Parts_kit_for_only_59_00.html |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 5:17:24 PM EDT
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Firing pins are not stainless, as I stated before that was a mis-post. Some 9mm kits we have been working with used them but these carriers use mil-spec firing pins. And those keys aren't MIM bud. Again, those are mil-spec gas keys, take a closer look.
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Well now I know never to do business with spikes. Stay clASSy spikes. From now on I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys buy MIM parts, stainless firing pins, and carriers with the keys coated in place. I learned my lesson. Firing pins are not stainless, as I stated before that was a mis-post. Some 9mm kits we have been working with used them but these carriers use mil-spec firing pins. And those keys aren't MIM bud. Again, those are mil-spec gas keys, take a closer look.
Don't argue with an idiot. He'll just drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Good luck with your parts. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 5:19:42 PM EDT
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About parts that aren't in this thread? We did a very small batch of MIM hammers/triggers in Nickel-Teflon months ago. All of our parts kits with the magphos and polish are mil-spec hammers and triggers. All new production Nickel-Teflon hammers and triggers are derived from mil-spec hammers and triggers.
Now please stop posting slanderous comments that are based on thin air. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 5:49:04 PM EDT
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Maybe if we put a zombie on it Spikes would approve? Nah, only the dueling penises...
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Posted: 8/16/2013 5:51:05 PM EDT
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Will you guys sell just bolts with the coating?
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Posted: 8/16/2013 7:03:08 PM EDT
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Will you guys sell just bolts with the coating? Yes they will be listed early next week. |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 7:29:37 PM EDT
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TR_, you should thanks spikes for coming into this thread, because they just sold another one of your BCGs.
I'll be ordering one of yours tomorrow.
Couple questions, MPI bolts? Blue or black extractor buffer? Thanks! |
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Posted: 8/16/2013 7:57:48 PM EDT
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What kind of rep shits on a thread like this? I love the "I was just trying to help" excuse. My money will go elsewhere in the future.
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Posted: 8/17/2013 12:28:39 AM EDT
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What kind of rep shits on a thread like this? I love the "I was just trying to help" excuse. My money will go elsewhere in the future. Pretty sure badazz is beyond a rep. He's the owner of spikes lol. |
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Posted: 8/17/2013 12:51:25 AM EDT
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Just picked one up along with a trigger kit to complete a new build. Thanks for the coupon code.
Can't believe another vendor is talking shit in your thread, not very professional IMO.
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Posted: 8/17/2013 4:34:25 AM EDT
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What kind of rep shits on a thread like this? I love the "I was just trying to help" excuse. My money will go elsewhere in the future. Pretty sure badazz is beyond a rep. He's the owner of spikes lol. Double dildos. |
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