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Link Posted: 4/20/2014 7:27:47 AM EDT
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I don't know much by the finish on lowers.  Does the metal weaken if the finish is stripped?
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Can someone answer this?
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:08:27 AM EDT
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I hope JT posts his BFPU 601, that is one awesome rifle.
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Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:

Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!

John Thomas





Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:19:17 AM EDT
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Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:

Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!

John Thomas

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/4-1.jpg

<a href="http://s61.photobucket.com/user/jntmjt1/media/Worn%20601/12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/12.jpg</a>

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Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:

Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!

John Thomas

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/4-1.jpg

<a href="http://s61.photobucket.com/user/jntmjt1/media/Worn%20601/12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/12.jpg</a>


Im guessing this project started with a worn out stock?
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:31:20 AM EDT
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I hope JT posts his BFPU 601, that is one awesome rifle.



Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:

Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!

John Thomas

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/4-1.jpg

<a href="http://s61.photobucket.com/user/jntmjt1/media/Worn%20601/12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/12.jpg</a>


Im guessing this project started with a worn out stock?


Good guess...  More than worn, though... broken in half!  Stock was courtesy of jhud.

John Thomas


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Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:33:48 AM EDT
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Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:



Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!



John Thomas



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/4-1.jpg



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/12.jpg



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I hope JT posts his BFPU 601, that is one awesome rifle.






Thanks MrM1A1... I know most of you guys have seen this 100 times, but here it is for those who haven't:



Also, I've got a super cool BFPU 609 ready to go (except for the barrel), once the ATF sends me back my approved Form 1.  Hopefully, I'll put some pics up of that in a couple months (along with my 607)!



John Thomas



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/4-1.jpg



http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/jntmjt1/Worn%20601/12.jpg





JT that is one of my favorite rifles you have built, I like the worn out patina!



Todd



 
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:41:52 AM EDT
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All right.  Fair enough.  But, have you TRIED it?
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I've often wondered what would happen to a new lower if place in a vibratory cleaner [commonly called a "tumbler" for cleaning dirty cartridge cases] and let it run for a while.

But I've never had a reason to try for the battlefield pick-up look, so never tried it.


It wouldn't work. A tumbler would peel off finish evenly across the whole item, which is not how things wear in real life.

ScrotchBrite is the ticket. It works amazingly well. Take your time and hit the high traffic areas. Google pics for inspiration. My part two was split the weapon in two, toss the pieces in a backpack with nothing else, and then take that thing everywhere, slinging it around, tossing in and out of the car, etc. That puts some real world scratches and dings on it as nature would intend.


All right.  Fair enough.  But, have you TRIED it?


Well, I think the answer to your question is yes... because I do alot of reloading and have used my tumbler for other things, as well as, I have weathered some of my AR and AK builds.

If you wanted to start out a weathered project this way, to toss it and take a little off of all of the receiver, this would work, but it would not be a path to a realistic BFPU on its own. You would have to introduce some sort of wear based on use, as well as random, chaotic marks.

As I said above and many others have tried, ScotchBrite is the for shizzle and add some way of randomly banging it up... throw down driveway, attack with a hammer, toss in backpack... is the finishing touch.

If you think you cannot do it on your own, I highly recommend JT from above posts, he's an artist far beyond what I can do... and he does great work, fast and for a fair price.

Link Posted: 4/20/2014 8:46:31 AM EDT
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I don't know much by the finish on lowers.  Does the metal weaken if the finish is stripped?


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Going all the way through the anodized outer layer can subject the bare aluminum to corrosion.
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 9:05:45 AM EDT
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Going all the way through the anodized outer layer can subject the bare aluminum to corrosion.
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I don't know much by the finish on lowers.  Does the metal weaken if the finish is stripped?


Can someone answer this?


Going all the way through the anodized outer layer can subject the bare aluminum to corrosion.


Thank you!
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 9:30:08 AM EDT
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Well, I think the answer to your question is yes... because I do alot of reloading and have used my tumbler for other things, as well as, I have weathered some of my AR and AK builds.

If you wanted to start out a weathered project this way, to toss it and take a little off of all of the receiver, this would work, but it would not be a path to a realistic BFPU on its own. You would have to introduce some sort of wear based on use, as well as random, chaotic marks.

As I said above and many others have tried, ScotchBrite is the for shizzle and add some way of randomly banging it up... throw down driveway, attack with a hammer, toss in backpack... is the finishing touch.

If you think you cannot do it on your own, I highly recommend JT from above posts, he's an artist far beyond what I can do... and he does great work, fast and for a fair price.

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I've often wondered what would happen to a new lower if place in a vibratory cleaner [commonly called a "tumbler" for cleaning dirty cartridge cases] and let it run for a while.

But I've never had a reason to try for the battlefield pick-up look, so never tried it.


It wouldn't work. A tumbler would peel off finish evenly across the whole item, which is not how things wear in real life.

ScrotchBrite is the ticket. It works amazingly well. Take your time and hit the high traffic areas. Google pics for inspiration. My part two was split the weapon in two, toss the pieces in a backpack with nothing else, and then take that thing everywhere, slinging it around, tossing in and out of the car, etc. That puts some real world scratches and dings on it as nature would intend.


All right.  Fair enough.  But, have you TRIED it?


Well, I think the answer to your question is yes... because I do alot of reloading and have used my tumbler for other things, as well as, I have weathered some of my AR and AK builds.

If you wanted to start out a weathered project this way, to toss it and take a little off of all of the receiver, this would work, but it would not be a path to a realistic BFPU on its own. You would have to introduce some sort of wear based on use, as well as random, chaotic marks.

As I said above and many others have tried, ScotchBrite is the for shizzle and add some way of randomly banging it up... throw down driveway, attack with a hammer, toss in backpack... is the finishing touch.

If you think you cannot do it on your own, I highly recommend JT from above posts, he's an artist far beyond what I can do... and he does great work, fast and for a fair price.



Aha.  You HAVE in fact done it to induce general weathering.  Very good.  Have you any pics you could share.

And F.Y.I., I did not think [nor did I so indicate] that's all it would take to produce a realistic pick-up forgery.  I know very well what kind of work that takes; hence the thought of a shortcut.
Link Posted: 4/20/2014 9:50:31 AM EDT
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There is a great thread over in AR Discussions - mostly newer, black rifles, but real BTDT, sandbox weapons. It is a major reference for correctly replicating wear on a receiver. I just wish I could remember the name of the thread - but someone here will remember. I'll look and see if I can still find the link.
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There is a great thread over in AR Discussions - mostly newer, black rifles, but real BTDT, sandbox weapons. It is a major reference for correctly replicating wear on a receiver. I just wish I could remember the name of the thread - but someone here will remember. I'll look and see if I can still find the link.
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this one??

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/315432_AR_PICS_sandbox_request_Operators_Contractors__Military__and_every_other_brute_rifle.html
Link Posted: 4/21/2014 6:16:59 AM EDT
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BFPUing is fun. I used a myriad of various tools, rocks, abrasives to get the lower to match the upper on my GM.

http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae355/4mulaoneguy/Union%20Switch%20Slide/80d636a1-23b8-4d17-b7d0-c16cffc2e316_zpsfe4c89ea.jpg
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looks incredible!
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