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Link Posted: 1/24/2016 12:12:46 PM EDT
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Well back to our regularly scheduled program, I love the way this barrel looks (NorthTech Defense Fluted Ultra Precision .223) but haven't seen many reviews on it.
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i also was interested in one of these, fluted for under 400 doesn't seem like a bad set up. i may be completely wrong but i have a hunch rainier arms and northtech are linked in their barrels. maybe both being manufactured in the same facility
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 12:16:50 PM EDT
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Well back to our regularly scheduled program, I love the way this barrel looks (NorthTech Defense Fluted Ultra Precision .223) but haven't seen many reviews on it.
<a href="http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/TATBME/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg</a>
Can someone point me in the direction of something like this, but that is a for sure shooter.

i also was interested in one of these, fluted for under 400 doesn't seem like a bad set up. i may be completely wrong but i have a hunch rainier arms and northtech are linked in their barrels. maybe both being manufactured in the same facility

Well if they are, I'll buy one.
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 12:19:32 PM EDT
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Well back to our regularly scheduled program, I love the way this barrel looks (NorthTech Defense Fluted Ultra Precision .223) but haven't seen many reviews on it.
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Those look killer.....now make sure you throw them in a vice, shoot only 3x10 shot groups or you will be joining me in my mother's basement!
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 12:26:09 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/TATBME/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg</a>
Can someone point me in the direction of something like this, but that is a for sure shooter.



Those look killer.....now make sure you throw them in a vice, shoot only 3x10 shot groups or you will be joining me in my mother's basement!

LOL, I've seen how you roll hardly your mothers basement. I just posted in Rainiers Industry forum asking about those barrels.
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 12:53:35 PM EDT
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<a href="http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/TATBME/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg</a>
Can someone point me in the direction of something like this, but that is a for sure shooter.

i also was interested in one of these, fluted for under 400 doesn't seem like a bad set up. i may be completely wrong but i have a hunch rainier arms and northtech are linked in their barrels. maybe both being manufactured in the same facility

Well if they are, I'll buy one.

i have a 10.5 Rainier ultra match in a shorty set up. its in a pistol configuration now until i can get a form 1 through when these new laws take effect. using a primary arms micro i was able to get some decent grouping with it using AE 55 gr . this was only at 50 yards, but scoped with bipod and a rear bag, and a stock LOL, i know i could tighten this right up

Link Posted: 1/24/2016 1:07:04 PM EDT
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I have one in 13.7, I know they are good shooters .
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 5:13:26 PM EDT
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I am pretty sure Rainier gets their ultra match barrels from Black Hole Weaponry.
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 5:25:45 PM EDT
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I'm fairly certain BHW makes their select series....match/ultra match are sourced elsewhere.  Where did you get that information from?
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 6:05:22 PM EDT
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I'm fairly certain BHW makes their select series....match/ultra match are sourced elsewhere.  Where did you get that information from?



Even on Rainier's site they state where the UltraMatch barrels are sourced by:

Stainless Steel Match Grade Shilen Blank


Now, just because it is a Shilen blank - doesn't mean Shilen did the final profile and chamber work.......

This is why you have to be VERY careful who you listen to around here.
Link Posted: 1/24/2016 6:21:35 PM EDT
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I'm fairly certain BHW makes their select series....match/ultra match are sourced elsewhere.  Where did you get that information from?


That could be my mistake then. It's been a long time since I have checked into their stuff. I apologize if so.
Link Posted: 1/25/2016 8:57:19 AM EDT
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Even on Rainier's site they state where the UltraMatch barrels are sourced by:



Now, just because it is a Shilen blank - doesn't mean Shilen did the final profile and chamber work.......

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I'm fairly certain BHW makes their select series....match/ultra match are sourced elsewhere.  Where did you get that information from?



Even on Rainier's site they state where the UltraMatch barrels are sourced by:

Stainless Steel Match Grade Shilen Blank


Now, just because it is a Shilen blank - doesn't mean Shilen did the final profile and chamber work.......

This is why you have to be VERY careful who you listen to around here.


correct, they dont state shilen does any worth to the barrels. i do wish some of these companys would just come out and say who makes the barrels.
Link Posted: 1/26/2016 9:59:02 PM EDT
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BA barrel?  Is that the company that "guarantees" sub-MOA accuracy/precision for all their barrels?


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Link Posted: 1/27/2016 7:00:52 AM EDT
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when was this done?
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 10:04:47 AM EDT
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I believe last April, you can read Muad's full review here:

 
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 10:22:24 AM EDT
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I believe last April, you can read Muad's full review here:   http://ar15hunter.com/ballistic-advantage-hanson-series-barrel-review-range-report/


thanks
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 10:27:06 AM EDT
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Well back to our regularly scheduled program, I love the way this barrel looks (NorthTech Defense Fluted Ultra Precision .223) but haven't seen many reviews on it.
<a href="http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/TATBME/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg</a>
Can someone point me in the direction of something like this, but that is a for sure shooter.

i also was interested in one of these, fluted for under 400 doesn't seem like a bad set up. i may be completely wrong but i have a hunch rainier arms and northtech are linked in their barrels. maybe both being manufactured in the same facility

Rainier answered in their industry section and said that these barrels are on par with their ultramatch series.

I've also looked at these, if someone has some experience with this barrel and not hear say, I'll be glad to hear about them.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Match-Grade-Barrel-556-NATO-Recon-Tactical-16-1-7-Twist-Stainless-Fluted/productinfo/TR%2D556RC16F%2D17/

ETA:bikerman9967 I'm not trying to hijack your thread but since we are practically looking for the same thing, I just didn't want to start a new thread(especially seeing we have people in here that actually record data).
Link Posted: 1/27/2016 11:15:32 AM EDT
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Rainier answered in their industry section and said that these barrels are on par with their ultramatch series.

I've also looked at these, if someone has some experience with this barrel and not hear say, I'll be glad to hear about them.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Match-Grade-Barrel-556-NATO-Recon-Tactical-16-1-7-Twist-Stainless-Fluted/productinfo/TR%2D556RC16F%2D17/

ETA:bikerman9967 I'm not trying to hijack your thread but since we are practically looking for the same thing, I just didn't want to start a new thread(especially seeing we have people in here that actually record data).
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Well back to our regularly scheduled program, I love the way this barrel looks (NorthTech Defense Fluted Ultra Precision .223) but haven't seen many reviews on it.
<a href="http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/TATBME/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg.html" target="_blank">http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/TATBME/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps6qp0qurz.jpeg</a>
Can someone point me in the direction of something like this, but that is a for sure shooter.

i also was interested in one of these, fluted for under 400 doesn't seem like a bad set up. i may be completely wrong but i have a hunch rainier arms and northtech are linked in their barrels. maybe both being manufactured in the same facility

Rainier answered in their industry section and said that these barrels are on par with their ultramatch series.

I've also looked at these, if someone has some experience with this barrel and not hear say, I'll be glad to hear about them.
http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Match-Grade-Barrel-556-NATO-Recon-Tactical-16-1-7-Twist-Stainless-Fluted/productinfo/TR%2D556RC16F%2D17/

ETA:bikerman9967 I'm not trying to hijack your thread but since we are practically looking for the same thing, I just didn't want to start a new thread(especially seeing we have people in here that actually record data).

no worries. less clutter for the forum
Link Posted: 1/28/2016 9:59:39 PM EDT
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Finally got out from my mother's basement today with my 18" BA SPR shooting some XM855 @100 yards (1.217 MOA avg).  Still breaking barrel in, and messing around with different loads.

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Finally got out from my mother's basement today with my 18" BA SPR shooting some XM855 @100 yards.  Still breaking barrel in, and messing around with different loads.



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Are those all M855?

 
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Finally got out from my mother's basement today with my 18" BA SPR shooting some XM855 @100 yards.  Still breaking barrel in, and messing around with different loads.

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Are those all M855?  


Yes...I am heading out this weekend with my 16" Rainier Arms match set up with some new IMI 77grain HPBT match I picked up....hopefully good enough go get me off the wall of shame
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Finally got out from my mother's basement today with my 18" BA SPR shooting some XM855 @100 yards.  Still breaking barrel in, and messing around with different loads.



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Yes...I am heading out this weekend with my 16" Rainier Arms match set up with some new IMI 77grain HPBT match I picked up....hopefully good enough go get me off the wall of shame

I think it will get you on the board.  I will be surprised if it's higher than #30 though.

 
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Here's my BA SPR set up....I did shoot with a Harris up front though.

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Needs an ACOG and an A2 flash hider!



Good looking stick, I'm a little partial to the M16A4 look
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Agreed on ACOG, that POS Leupold VX-2 doesn't do it justice.  No A2 carry handle, 18" barrel instead of 20, and an A1 stock so it's kind of a bastard clone.  One thing is for certain, you won't find any mk12 profiled OPS contoured barrels with FSB's around.
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Here's my BA SPR set up....I did shoot with a Harris up front though.

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sort of like
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Finally got out from my mother's basement today with my 18" BA SPR shooting some XM855 @100 yards (1.217 MOA avg).  Still breaking barrel in, and messing around with different loads.

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that isnt that bad...
Link Posted: 1/29/2016 6:53:50 PM EDT
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At least they actually define what criteria their guarantee is valid for.  Most companies don't go that far. I don't expect them to be the same precision as a $400 Noveske barrel.  But for a $200 barrel, the results don't look bad.  




Never had one of their barrels, but I have one of their .300blk barrels inbound to see how it is.  Not expecteting sub MOA, hoping for consistent sub 1.5" @ 100 yards.  




As for those claiming m855 as being near MOA, I was testing out some loads through a Larue Stealth, and during sight in, I used some Federal American Eagle 55gr.  I was surprised at the accuracy.  I shot 3 5-shot groups, all were <1" @ 100 yards.  How fortunate, that the cheapest ammo I had on hand shot the best.  




Couple weeks later, I shot some more of the same ammo, same lot #, same box, etc.  Reaulted in groups that were closer to 2" @ 100 yards.  




Lesson?




Sometimes you get lucky, the stars align and cheap ammo groups tightly.  At least for a few rounds.  But inconsistent ammo will never group consistently over the long term.  




That's why Molon does three 10-round groups.  Gets rid of the luck aspect, and gives you a true measure of what the barrel and ammo can do.
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Wow this thread really took off. I was asking more because a lot of these barrels are pushing 5 bills, but aren't guaranteed sub half moa, ( larue does ) . Rainier arms ultra match barrels are only guaranteed for sub moa. BA does too and those are cheaper depending what you get
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Not even Larue guaranties you will shoot sub MOA.

They guarantee the barrel, with a capable shooter and ammo, will shoot that way.

It's clearly printed on their site.
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According to their pathetic criteria, Wolf Performance Ammunition is sub-half-MOA amunition . . .







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It's unfortunate that manufacturers aren't willing to place a more realistic guarantee. Agreed that a 3-shot group means little, but it seems to be what manufacturers are willing to do.




To me, I would rather have a 10-shot, 1.5" guarantee than a 3-shot sub-moa guarantee.  




I do have a BA .300blk barrel inbound currently to replace a KAK barrel that is overgassed.  Once I have it mounted, I will do a quick test, and see how it does.  I usually do 5 5-shot group, but I am going to do 3 10-shot groups, and I will report how it does.  




I'm betting it won't be sub MOA.  
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  It's unfortunate that manufacturers aren't willing to place a more realistic guarantee. Agreed that a 3-shot group means little, but it seems to be what manufacturers are willing to do.


To me, I would rather have a 10-shot, 1.5" guarantee than a 3-shot sub-moa guarantee.  


I do have a BA .300blk barrel inbound currently to replace a KAK barrel that is overgassed.  Once I have it mounted, I will do a quick test, and see how it does.  I usually do 5 5-shot group, but I am going to do 3 10-shot groups, and I will report how it does.  


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  It's unfortunate that manufacturers aren't willing to place a more realistic guarantee. Agreed that a 3-shot group means little, but it seems to be what manufacturers are willing to do.


To me, I would rather have a 10-shot, 1.5" guarantee than a 3-shot sub-moa guarantee.  


I do have a BA .300blk barrel inbound currently to replace a KAK barrel that is overgassed.  Once I have it mounted, I will do a quick test, and see how it does.  I usually do 5 5-shot group, but I am going to do 3 10-shot groups, and I will report how it does.  


I'm betting it won't be sub MOA.  



I look forward to seeing your results.
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Here are the results of an accuracy evaluation of a Ballistic Advantage 5.56mm NATO, 14.7" pencil barrel, posted by jhr1986 on TOS.








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Wow, that's poorer than I expected.
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not amazing for sure. Although it is a pencil barrel.
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I bought a Stealth and a PredatAR LaRue barrel on their Black Friday 50% off sale. Wow I have never shot so good. I was sighting in a new optic and shooting from a bipod. My son was watching and we were shooting at the 50 yard mark first then went to 100.

It was funny because at the 50 yard mark I said lets do 5 shots and then make an adjustment. He said "Dad you only hit the target once". I shot another group and then he laughed. He told me I was hitting the same hole making it a little bigger. We dialed in the optic and moved the target to 100 yards. I was shooting less than 1" groups. We then put some clays on the berm at 100 yards and we were shooting them and even shooting the pieces after they were hit once.

Not too bad. We were shooting my reloads. 55gr FMJ Hornady over 24.5gr of N133. I had never shot this good in my life. Amazing what a high quality barrel can do for an average shooter with average ammo.

My only regret is not buying more of these barrels. I am waiting for another sale.
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I bought a Stealth and a PredatAR LaRue barrel on their Black Friday 50% off sale. Wow I have never shot so good. I was sighting in a new optic and shooting from a bipod. My son was watching and we were shooting at the 50 yard mark first then went to 100.



It was funny because at the 50 yard mark I said lets do 5 shots and then make an adjustment. He said "Dad you only hit the target once". I shot another group and then he laughed. He told me I was hitting the same hole making it a little bigger. We dialed in the optic and moved the target to 100 yards. I was shooting less than 1" groups. We then put some clays on the berm at 100 yards and we were shooting them and even shooting the pieces after they were hit once.



Not too bad. We were shooting my reloads. 55gr FMJ Hornady over 24.5gr of N133. I had never shot this good in my life. Amazing what a high quality barrel can do for an average shooter with average ammo.



My only regret is not buying more of these barrels. I am waiting for another sale.
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What primer are you using with N133?

 
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I bought a Stealth and a PredatAR LaRue barrel on their Black Friday 50% off sale. Wow I have never shot so good. I was sighting in a new optic and shooting from a bipod. My son was watching and we were shooting at the 50 yard mark first then went to 100.

It was funny because at the 50 yard mark I said lets do 5 shots and then make an adjustment. He said "Dad you only hit the target once". I shot another group and then he laughed. He told me I was hitting the same hole making it a little bigger. We dialed in the optic and moved the target to 100 yards. I was shooting less than 1" groups. We then put some clays on the berm at 100 yards and we were shooting them and even shooting the pieces after they were hit once.

Not too bad. We were shooting my reloads. 55gr FMJ Hornady over 24.5gr of N133. I had never shot this good in my life. Amazing what a high quality barrel can do for an average shooter with average ammo.

My only regret is not buying more of these barrels. I am waiting for another sale.
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NICE.

I recently picked up a stealth and two predatars.  Really looking forward to shooting them.
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what is the going rate for a sub moa 556/223 barrel ?


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This much . . .


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I bought a Stealth and a PredatAR LaRue barrel on their Black Friday 50% off sale. Wow I have never shot so good. I was sighting in a new optic and shooting from a bipod. My son was watching and we were shooting at the 50 yard mark first then went to 100.

It was funny because at the 50 yard mark I said lets do 5 shots and then make an adjustment. He said "Dad you only hit the target once". I shot another group and then he laughed. He told me I was hitting the same hole making it a little bigger. We dialed in the optic and moved the target to 100 yards. I was shooting less than 1" groups. We then put some clays on the berm at 100 yards and we were shooting them and even shooting the pieces after they were hit once.

Not too bad. We were shooting my reloads. 55gr FMJ Hornady over 24.5gr of N133. I had never shot this good in my life. Amazing what a high quality barrel can do for an average shooter with average ammo.

My only regret is not buying more of these barrels. I am waiting for another sale.
What primer are you using with N133?  


Wolf Small Rifle magnum. I did a bunch of ladders with 2 different ARs and settled in on this load for my plinking. I by no means went for precision. I just wanted a good all around plinking load to shoot in any of my 14 ARs.
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not amazing for sure. Although it is a pencil barrel.


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not amazing for sure. Although it is a pencil barrel.





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not amazing for sure. Although it is a pencil barrel.





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Damn. Colt knows how to make a good barrel.
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Damn. Colt knows how to make a good barrel.
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Damn. Colt knows how to make a good barrel.


Or ER Shaw does.... who made barrels for Colt.
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Damn. Colt knows how to make a good barrel.
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Indeed.



Accuracy Evaluations of 14.5" AR-15 Barrels from Colt, Noveske and more . . .


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There are a couple companies with a guarantee of sub moa with match ammo or your money back.  Rainier Arms, Micro Moa, Mega Arms are a couple well below $500, pick one in your price range and enjoy.
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Ballistics Advantage

 
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i think it has been proven in this thread that BA isnt guaranteed in that classification
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Thanks for the nugget of Load Data.  
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I bought a Stealth and a PredatAR LaRue barrel on their Black Friday 50% off sale. Wow I have never shot so good. I was sighting in a new optic and shooting from a bipod. My son was watching and we were shooting at the 50 yard mark first then went to 100.

It was funny because at the 50 yard mark I said lets do 5 shots and then make an adjustment. He said "Dad you only hit the target once". I shot another group and then he laughed. He told me I was hitting the same hole making it a little bigger. We dialed in the optic and moved the target to 100 yards. I was shooting less than 1" groups. We then put some clays on the berm at 100 yards and we were shooting them and even shooting the pieces after they were hit once.

Not too bad. We were shooting my reloads. 55gr FMJ Hornady over 24.5gr of N133. I had never shot this good in my life. Amazing what a high quality barrel can do for an average shooter with average ammo.

My only regret is not buying more of these barrels. I am waiting for another sale.
What primer are you using with N133?  


Wolf Small Rifle magnum. I did a bunch of ladders with 2 different ARs and settled in on this load for my plinking. I by no means went for precision. I just wanted a good all around plinking load to shoot in any of my 14 ARs.


Thanks for the nugget of Load Data.  


Thank you for the great products.

Time for another barrel sale, please.
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i think it has been proven in this thread that BA isnt guaranteed in that classification
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i think it has been proven in this thread that BA isnt guaranteed in that classification
At least not with 10-round groups.  



I saw potential in the test I did, linked above by Molon.  I'm going to give it another try.  Just hoping to bring the average down a bit if I can.  



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At least not with 10-round groups.  

I saw potential in the test I did, linked above by Molon.  I'm going to give it another try.  Just hoping to bring the average down a bit if I can.  


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i think it has been proven in this thread that BA isnt guaranteed in that classification
At least not with 10-round groups.  

I saw potential in the test I did, linked above by Molon.  I'm going to give it another try.  Just hoping to bring the average down a bit if I can.  



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