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Posted: 2/1/2014 11:54:48 AM EDT
Does anybody sell Titanium 5.56 BCG's?
Link Posted: 2/1/2014 12:05:48 PM EDT
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Not to much info on where to buy. But these guy makes them.

BOOMFAB
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 5:43:58 AM EDT
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what does titanium bring to the party?
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Bragging rights? Its not like carriers are routinely falling apart is it?
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 6:09:23 AM EDT
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I would imagine titanium would benifet a bolt more than carrier since titanium should be a stronger steel than C-158.  As for the carrier, it would make it lighter which would increase cycling rate and decrease dwell time.  One could just buy a semi steel carrier and lighter buffer if decreased dwell is what you're looking for.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 7:34:28 AM EDT
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We will be selling Titanium M16 carriers soon.
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Weight?


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Lighter than steel, more durable than aluminum. Reduces weight of the weapon and the carrier assembly which makes for LESS recoil and faster follow up shots
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:28:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 8:42:58 AM EDT
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Damn you Spikes!
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:07:09 AM EDT
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Dammit Tom...


Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:12:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:17:07 AM EDT
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That carrier is LIGHTER than my old Progressive Machine &Tool titanium carrier!!!



Any chance you will offer Cam Pins out of S7?
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:22:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:25:39 AM EDT
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Looks pretty cool. I thought the heavier full auto carriers actually helped with reliability compared to the neutered 1/2 circle carriers of the past?
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:36:00 AM EDT
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Well, well, how about that.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:43:45 AM EDT
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Stronger...Tougher...Harder??

Titanium is a very tough material...but personally I don't think it would be well suited for a Bolt material. It's actually not very hard at all.

If you have ever cut Ti it cuts similar to Aluminum versus steel(machining-wise).

Link Posted: 2/2/2014 9:51:10 AM EDT
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Looks pretty cool. I thought the heavier full auto carriers actually helped with reliability compared to the neutered 1/2 circle carriers of the past?
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Looks pretty cool. I thought the heavier full auto carriers actually helped with reliability compared to the neutered 1/2 circle carriers of the past?


I've ran LIGHTWEIGHT carriers for several DECADES with no reliability issues.


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Stronger...Tougher...Harder??

Titanium is a very tough material...but personally I don't think it would be well suited for a Bolt material. It's actually not very hard at all.

If you have ever cut Ti it cuts similar to Aluminum versus steel(machining-wise).



Keep in mind, there have been ALUMINUM bolt carriers!

Titanium wears a hell of a lot better than aluminum.

I've ran both.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 10:09:09 AM EDT
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We have to occassionally cut off titanium rings at work.  I have no problem with a BCG being made from material that detroys my ring cutters.
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Why would you have a problem with a tough material? Or did you mean to say you have no problem with it?
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Why would you have a problem with a tough material? Or did you mean to say you have no problem with it?
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We have to occassionally cut off titanium rings at work.  I have problem with a BCG being made from material that detroys my ring cutters.


Why would you have a problem with a tough material? Or did you mean to say you have no problem with it?


Thanks for catching that.  I corrected my statement.  I make most of my posts from my cell phone at work, so I frequently have to make corrections.
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Thanks for catching that.  I corrected my statement.  I make most of my posts from my cell phone at work, so I frequently have to make corrections.
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We have to occassionally cut off titanium rings at work.  I have problem with a BCG being made from material that detroys my ring cutters.


Why would you have a problem with a tough material? Or did you mean to say you have no problem with it?


Thanks for catching that.  I corrected my statement.  I make most of my posts from my cell phone at work, so I frequently have to make corrections.

Me too. Fat finger deluxe
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 3:24:54 PM EDT
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Id like to try one of these carriers. I wonder how much it will speed up cycle time.
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I want one for reduced reciprocating mass.

I wish someone would make one for the big guns.
Link Posted: 2/2/2014 4:03:00 PM EDT
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Our new 6AL4V Titanium carrier has some awesome features which we are in the process of getting a patent on. So I can't say much right now, but with this new carrier you don't need to use an adjustable gas system, heavier buffer, or a heavier buffer spring, even with the reduced weight. Just drop it in place and start shooting. Also our carrier has a Tool Steel sleeve inside the bore for added durability. It's done the same exact way that steel sleeves are put into Aluminum race engine blocks. They are also Hard Anodized Grey and infused with Teflon for wear resistance.

Here's the prototypes (made for our shooting team) these don't have the patented features shown. :-)

<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/badazzar15/media/Intake/0E9F4D25-AFA1-44AB-BD38-78F7AC5239A6_zpsqhzw64p0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/Intake/0E9F4D25-AFA1-44AB-BD38-78F7AC5239A6_zpsqhzw64p0.jpg</a>

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Why all the holes? I understand it makes it lighter, but isn't it already lighter than a standard BCG?


Link Posted: 2/2/2014 4:12:32 PM EDT
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Lighter is a GOOD thing!
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I'm working on it man! The Titanium carriers are in production now.
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I'm working on it man! The Titanium carriers are in production now.


I am getting ready to by an additional BCG, that looks sweet! I may have to cough up the extra for that. Nice!!
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 8:06:26 AM EDT
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More durable S7 cam pins are in the works as well.

Here's our S7 bolt.

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That carrier is LIGHTER than my old Progressive Machine &Tool titanium carrier!!!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/DSC01359.jpg

Any chance you will offer Cam Pins out of S7?


More durable S7 cam pins are in the works as well.

Here's our S7 bolt.

<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/badazzar15/media/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg</a>


What is the reason for the dimpling?  Looks like that would make it harder to clean.
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What is the reason for the dimpling?  Looks like that would make it harder to clean.
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That carrier is LIGHTER than my old Progressive Machine &Tool titanium carrier!!!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/DSC01359.jpg

Any chance you will offer Cam Pins out of S7?


More durable S7 cam pins are in the works as well.

Here's our S7 bolt.

<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/badazzar15/media/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg</a>


What is the reason for the dimpling?  Looks like that would make it harder to clean.

So don't clean it dimpling reduces weight and adds awesomeness
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 9:41:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/3/2014 9:43:30 AM EDT
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When do you think they will be up for sale?
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 9:49:08 AM EDT
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Spikes, put me down for one. Got to be the first kid on my block with one.
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I could have gone a lot lighter but I wanted to keep the M16 feature.
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I could have gone a lot lighter but I wanted to keep the M16 feature.


Tom, that looks great, but I'm just curious why no holes on the underside of the M16 carrier? If weight reduction is the goal, seems like you could get at least 2 more without interfering with the buffer tube retaining pin channel.

I'm really excited aboutt all the new parts. That S- 7 bolt looks awesome as does the Forged FCG and new receivers. Will you be doing any forged M16 FCGs?

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Weight reduction, more surface area, clean it??


I'm also thinking the dimples will displace debris and carbon build up that may otherwise jam a rifle, like a sand cut FAL bolt carrier
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 10:44:55 AM EDT
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Double Tap.
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 11:01:16 AM EDT
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Fuck you Spikes, fuck you. Between you and BCM I'm always going to be broke













Link Posted: 2/3/2014 11:29:38 AM EDT
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You are the man, Tom!!!!



I've got money for a pre-order right now...lets do it!
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So don't clean it dimpling reduces weight and adds awesomeness
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That carrier is LIGHTER than my old Progressive Machine &Tool titanium carrier!!!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/DSC01359.jpg

Any chance you will offer Cam Pins out of S7?


More durable S7 cam pins are in the works as well.

Here's our S7 bolt.

<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/badazzar15/media/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q160/badazzar15/Intake/C629DE69-CA50-4D64-BA9E-A28FA1086B8F_zpskp6mpcqr.jpg</a>


What is the reason for the dimpling?  Looks like that would make it harder to clean.

So don't clean it dimpling reduces weight and adds awesomeness


No, the dimples make it more aerodynamic and gets you longer range for each shot.

TRG
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 12:16:29 PM EDT
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Why does a standard bolt need weight reduction?  How much weight reduction can you even get with those shallow dimples?  Less than half an ounce?
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These are primarily for game guns, where recoil reduction is important for quick split times.  Reduced weight combined with reduced gas leads to less gun movement.



 
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What is a ball park price for this Ti goodness?
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They will be available as soon as all the patent crap is in place. Making them isn't a big deal and won't take long at all. The process is already figured out.
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They will be available as soon as all the patent crap is in place. Making them isn't a big deal and won't take long at all. The process is already figured out.



Have you compared cyclic rates on FA guns with your design and a standard carrier?

TRG
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Full auto function and durability was my main concern. I tested everything possible. It is awesome! I can't go into detail but with the patented features on this carrier it really is a drop in solution with no adjustable gas system required.
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They will be available as soon as all the patent crap is in place. Making them isn't a big deal and won't take long at all. The process is already figured out.



Have you compared cyclic rates on FA guns with your design and a standard carrier?

TRG


Full auto function and durability was my main concern. I tested everything possible. It is awesome! I can't go into detail but with the patented features on this carrier it really is a drop in solution with no adjustable gas system required.


This is interesting...

Also what do you mean by sleeved, self tuning?
Link Posted: 2/3/2014 5:28:31 PM EDT
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I'm interested in what the difference is to the end user?


Obviously a few ounces in weight savings
Any noticeable difference to the recoil impulse?
Faster cycling?  Smoother or sharper feeling?
How about when used in combination with a suppressor?  Does the extra back pressure hammer it any harder?
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Reliability?
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These are the projected retail prices:

Sleeved (self tuning) Titanium carrier w/Hard Anodized Grey Teflon infused finish and properly attached carrier key. $275

Complete S7 NiB coated bolt. $124.95

Complete BCG (Ti carrier - S7 bolt). $385

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What is a ball park price for this Ti goodness?


These are the projected retail prices:

Sleeved (self tuning) Titanium carrier w/Hard Anodized Grey Teflon infused finish and properly attached carrier key. $275

Complete S7 NiB coated bolt. $124.95

Complete BCG (Ti carrier - S7 bolt). $385



DAMN

I expected higher than that considering what I originally paid for my Progressive Machine & Tool Titanium carrier (and it wasn't steel lined). Sounds like I'm going to be broke for a LONG time changing all of my carriers and bolts. (Not to mention how you are getting into my pockets on all of the other cool stuff you are releasing)
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Do you believe this will compensate for a suppressor?
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