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Originally Posted By foughtstrong: What bushing? View Quote I have a video of how much play there was. if anyone cares enough email me and I’ll show you. I don’t know if that’s the case with that one, but it’s the exact same symptoms. |
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From Gene
“Sorry for the issues Mike. By looking at the video, it looks like there isn’t a bushing installed into the upper receiver which would prevent that barrel from orienting that far. That’s something that can be repaired and the receiver will be better than new. Please send me all of your contact information and ill let you know what you need tro do to get this back to us. Best regards, Gene Swanson” |
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Originally Posted By foughtstrong:
So looking to see if this has happend to anyone else. Bought a MRP CQB from Brownells and a LMT FA BCG during black Friday last year. Sent the barrel out chop down to 14.5. Finally got to the range yesterday. Shot about 10 rounds unsupressed to sight in my scope. Then starting shooting supressed, after about another 15 rounds the BCG wouldn't go into battery. Short story found the gas tube bent and the gas key hole has a slight ding. I've dry fired this rifle several times and never had any bind up. I've never seen anything like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436858/IMG_0715_jpeg-806388.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436858/IMG_0716_jpeg-806389.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Is it possible that the tube got dinged a bit while it was out getting chopped? Could've been slight enough that you didn't notice but once tolerances lined up, they caused the key to smack the tube. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
The gas tube is an easy fix. That sucks about the gas key. I have an enhanced carrier and would of had a heart attack if that had happened to mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Is it possible that the tube got dinged a bit while it was out getting chopped? Could've been slight enough that you didn't notice but once tolerances lined up, they caused the key to smack the tube. |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
I don’t think so but are gas keys replaceable? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Now I know what your talking about, and to clarify to others who might not know what this bushing is....it's the steel insert above the barrel extension area that aligns/eliminates lateral movement of the gas tube once it's seated into the chassis fully. https://i.imgur.com/dAEv3pl.jpg To the member who's gas tube was bent, does your chassis' bushing look normal, or is it missing, etc.? View Quote |
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Off topic, what experience does anyone have with how closely barrel return to zero after being pulled?
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Well I wasn't able to shoot the MLR upper this weekend but I fondled it a little more and made some interesting observations.
I'm not sure if there is a standard thickness for mlok rails or the depth of the slots. If you look on the inside of the upper you can see the interior profile is round and the mlok slots are milled flat and inset the material a little bit. That is certainly one way to make the rail beefier. The wall thickness measures about .130" but I dont have a caliper that'll fit to measure the slots. That's why I'm wondering if there is a standard. I measured an ALG rail at .090". Wish I had a G MK16 to compare also if anybody has access. The gas block is REALLY close to the rail. IDK how I never noticed it before but even the railed versions are just as close. The rails and barrels are SOLID though. If there was going to be an issue with gas block contacting the rail under firing I think we would have known it by now. The LMTs are known to be quite accurate. Somebody with more money than my should do a drop test though. I'm a bit uncertain if I really like the profile of the handguard. It is the narrowest/smallest rail I've ever handled and just not sure how comfortable itll be. I thought ALG rails were a bit narrow at first. Maybe I just need to find some mlok covers that will add a little girth. I do not understand why LMT wouldn't have made it a little wider though to accommodate removing a barrel without having to also remove mlok accessories. Maybe I should consider trading for a railed rifle length... Sorry no pics, my account expired yesterday and I dont feel like buying a new membership or uploading them to a picture hosting site. |
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Originally Posted By ThePitt:
Well I wasn't able to shoot the MLR upper this weekend but I fondled it a little more and made some interesting observations. I'm not sure if there is a standard thickness for mlok rails or the depth of the slots. If you look on the inside of the upper you can see the interior profile is round and the mlok slots are milled flat and inset the material a little bit. That is certainly one way to make the rail beefier. The thickness measures about .130" but I dont have a caliper that'll fit to measure the slots. That's why I'm wondering if there is a standard. I measured an ALG rail at .090". Wish I had a G MK16 to compare also if anybody has access. The gas block is REALLY close to the rail. IDK how I never noticed it before but even the railed versions are just as close. The rails and barrels are SOLID though. If there was going to be an issue with gas block contacting the rail under firing I think we would have known it by now. The LMTs are known to be quite accurate. Somebody with more money than my should do a drop test though. I'm a bit uncertain if I really like the profile of the handguard. It is the narrowest/smallest rail I've ever handled and just not sure how comfortable itll be. I thought ALG rails were a bit narrow at first. Maybe I just need to find some mlok covers that will add a little girth. I do not understand why LMT wouldn't have made it a little wider though to accommodate removing a barrel without having to also remove mlok accessories. Maybe I should consider trading for a railed rifle length... Sorry no pics, my account expired yesterday and I dont feel like buying a new membership or uploading them to a picture hosting site. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ThePitt:
Well I wasn't able to shoot the MLR upper this weekend but I fondled it a little more and made some interesting observations. I'm not sure if there is a standard thickness for mlok rails or the depth of the slots. If you look on the inside of the upper you can see the interior profile is round and the mlok slots are milled flat and inset the material a little bit. That is certainly one way to make the rail beefier. The wall thickness measures about .130" but I dont have a caliper that'll fit to measure the slots. That's why I'm wondering if there is a standard. I measured an ALG rail at .090". Wish I had a G MK16 to compare also if anybody has access. The gas block is REALLY close to the rail. IDK how I never noticed it before but even the railed versions are just as close. The rails and barrels are SOLID though. If there was going to be an issue with gas block contacting the rail under firing I think we would have known it by now. The LMTs are known to be quite accurate. Somebody with more money than my should do a drop test though. I'm a bit uncertain if I really like the profile of the handguard. It is the narrowest/smallest rail I've ever handled and just not sure how comfortable itll be. I thought ALG rails were a bit narrow at first. Maybe I just need to find some mlok covers that will add a little girth. I do not understand why LMT wouldn't have made it a little wider though to accommodate removing a barrel without having to also remove mlok accessories. Maybe I should consider trading for a railed rifle length... Sorry no pics, my account expired yesterday and I dont feel like buying a new membership or uploading them to a picture hosting site. View Quote I can't even install my barrel with the Railscales on the chassis....I see why people bitched about that. That said, it's a trade off, and I'd rather have the best feeling handguard vs. the convivence of changing barrels w/out removal of MLOK kit. I still feel the railed ones are more bombproof, but the MLR is the sleekest, sexiest, and best feeling handguard I've owned by a wide margin. I've got a used rifle length railed chassis that is used, but not abused that I'd be interested in trading for your MLR. I don't have manbearpig hands though so I'm sure that has something to do with it. |
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
I'm the exact opposite....I can't get over how much I like the MLR in the hands over everything I've felt to date. The last several years my only MRPs that got used were precision based ones due to the heft, and feel in the hands...as I prefer the much better feeling MK1/MK4/EMR rails w/ 14.5" pencil barrels for off hand shooting. Now those rails feel blocky, and rudimentary compared to the MLR. I can't even install my barrel with the Railscales on the chassis....I see why people bitched about that. That said, it's a trade off, and I'd rather have the best feeling handguard vs. the convivence of changing barrels w/out removal of MLOK kit. I still feel the railed ones are more bombproof, but the MLR is the sleekest, sexiest, and best feeling handguard I've owned by a wide margin. I've got a used rifle length railed chassis that is used, but not abused that I'd be interested in trading for your MLR. I don't have manbearpig hands though so I'm sure that has something to do with it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Originally Posted By ThePitt:
Well I wasn't able to shoot the MLR upper this weekend but I fondled it a little more and made some interesting observations. I'm not sure if there is a standard thickness for mlok rails or the depth of the slots. If you look on the inside of the upper you can see the interior profile is round and the mlok slots are milled flat and inset the material a little bit. That is certainly one way to make the rail beefier. The wall thickness measures about .130" but I dont have a caliper that'll fit to measure the slots. That's why I'm wondering if there is a standard. I measured an ALG rail at .090". Wish I had a G MK16 to compare also if anybody has access. The gas block is REALLY close to the rail. IDK how I never noticed it before but even the railed versions are just as close. The rails and barrels are SOLID though. If there was going to be an issue with gas block contacting the rail under firing I think we would have known it by now. The LMTs are known to be quite accurate. Somebody with more money than my should do a drop test though. I'm a bit uncertain if I really like the profile of the handguard. It is the narrowest/smallest rail I've ever handled and just not sure how comfortable itll be. I thought ALG rails were a bit narrow at first. Maybe I just need to find some mlok covers that will add a little girth. I do not understand why LMT wouldn't have made it a little wider though to accommodate removing a barrel without having to also remove mlok accessories. Maybe I should consider trading for a railed rifle length... Sorry no pics, my account expired yesterday and I dont feel like buying a new membership or uploading them to a picture hosting site. I can't even install my barrel with the Railscales on the chassis....I see why people bitched about that. That said, it's a trade off, and I'd rather have the best feeling handguard vs. the convivence of changing barrels w/out removal of MLOK kit. I still feel the railed ones are more bombproof, but the MLR is the sleekest, sexiest, and best feeling handguard I've owned by a wide margin. I've got a used rifle length railed chassis that is used, but not abused that I'd be interested in trading for your MLR. I don't have manbearpig hands though so I'm sure that has something to do with it. MK4 is too squarish "+" feeling I'm gonna install some rail covers to add some girth and Im sure I'll be fine. I'll check in here before I go selling/trading it or anything. |
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Thanks for the comparison. That's why I was wondering if the Kenetic MLOK rails were GTG. Could easily on/off the segments. Not that I intend to add much more then a BIPOD and a torch. Additionally I wonder if the MLOK Covers that snap in would be less intrusive to remove the barrel. My LMT MWS MLOK hasn't arrived yet but I wonder if it has the same issue of not being able the install/remove the barrel w/accessories attached. I don't know why I care as I don't intend on removing the barrel with any regularity, or at all for that matter... If anyone is the market for New take off ERGO grips, I have 2-off a .308 MARS and 1-off of a 5.56. I need a MIAD instead.
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Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Off topic, what experience does anyone have with how closely barrel return to zero after being pulled? View Quote A couple times I've shot a group at 50 yds, pulled the barrel, reinstalled, then shot another group. No perceivable shift in POI at that range with the same barrel. Could it be enough to matter at longer ranges? I don't know. For my uses I have no doubt that pulling and reinstalling the same barrel won't require adjusting the sights/optics. FWIW I've seen some talk of swapping in a completely different barrel and expecting no shift in POI. That isn't even a reasonable expectation IMHO, as every barrel is a little different even if they're the same configuration. I don't think this is what you're asking, just putting that out there in addition to the above. |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Thanks for the comparison. That's why I was wondering if the Kenetic MLOK rails were GTG. Could easily on/off the segments. Not that I intend to add much more then a BIPOD and a torch. Additionally I wonder if the MLOK Covers that snap in would be less intrusive to remove the barrel. View Quote |
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Big brother came today :-) It's gonna be sweet with the shorter Marvin Pits Ball Milled barrel! Just waiting for the MARS-Heavy Lower.. And then the real wait begins-Optics, Mounts, bipods, etc....$$$$
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Kiloecho1776/media/IMG_7940_zpswwknev2t.jpg.html?o=2 Sorry about the photo link again...Click if interested Thanks |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Big brother came today :-) It's gonna be sweet with the shorter Marvin Pits Ball Milled barrel! Just waiting for the MARS-Heavy Lower.. And then the real wait begins-Optics, Mounts, bipods, etc....$$$$ http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Kiloecho1776/media/IMG_7940_zpswwknev2t.jpg.html?o=2 Sorry about the photo link again...Click if interested Thanks View Quote That MWS w/ dimpled barrel is just wicked! After the MLR, I think I have to get one for the MWS. " /> ETA: Give Imgur.com or tinypic.com a try instead of photopuckit. Tinypic has some aids on it, but it's free and they didn't try to break the internet. Imgur is the best though currently in my view. |
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Lol. Thanks again buddy...^^^^^^
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Nothing like scoring a Seekonk 140in/lb Tq Wrench on eBay for $20 shipped LNIB for your LMT . Last week, scored a 60in/lb torque wrench for my MCX $15...was LNIB as well...
Saved me over $300 |
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Nothing like scoring a Seekonk 140in/lb Tq Wrench on eBay for $20 shipped LNIB for your LMT . Last week, scored a 60in/lb torque wrench for my MCX $15...was LNIB as well... Saved me over $300 View Quote |
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Anyone have any leads on a MARS stripped lower? Want to build one up with an A5 and some other goodies.
Then I need to decide on MLC vs MRP. |
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Originally Posted By sveesix:
Anyone have any leads on a MARS stripped lower? Want to build one up with an A5 and some other goodies. Then I need to decide on MLC vs MRP. View Quote https://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/lmt/m7sl-mars-l-ar-15-stripped-lower-receiver/ |
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Originally Posted By sveesix:
Anyone have any leads on a MARS stripped lower? Want to build one up with an A5 and some other goodies. Then I need to decide on MLC vs MRP. View Quote When they ordered mine 2 months ago they ordered more than 1. |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24:
http://i.imgur.com/x2eI6xa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AWP4V5H.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0E6MKBY.jpg View Quote Cheers |
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Dead sexy!! Glad to see others using the MRO too. I dig mine. Cheers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By jtdam24:
http://i.imgur.com/x2eI6xa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AWP4V5H.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0E6MKBY.jpg Cheers |
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Originally Posted By hammermill290:
So, USPS seems to have lost my MLR upper. Good thing I have another one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/409179/2019-01-15_19_06_34_jpg-810081.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Is that 14.5" or 16"...? I can't tell. If it's 14.5, is it midlength or carbine? Very Nice btw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By hammermill290:
So, USPS seems to have lost my MLR upper. Good thing I have another one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/409179/2019-01-15_19_06_34_jpg-810081.JPG |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24:
I agree I love mine. I have a green and a red and love them both. Thanks for the compliment brother View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jtdam24:
Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Originally Posted By jtdam24:
http://i.imgur.com/x2eI6xa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AWP4V5H.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0E6MKBY.jpg Cheers |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Is that 14.5" or 16"...? I can't tell. If it's 14.5, is it midlength or carbine? Very Nice btw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By hammermill290:
So, USPS seems to have lost my MLR upper. Good thing I have another one https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/409179/2019-01-15_19_06_34_jpg-810081.JPG |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Thanks. I'm teetering on chopping and pinning to 14.5 to retain midlength or simply pinning like you've done... I've gotta ship it off either way. Any regrets keeping it carbine? View Quote |
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I really screwed up not jumping on that $300 11.5" barrel. If anyone has a 10.5" or 11.5" barrel, I would like one ASAP
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Received my Seekonk MR1 TQ Wrench for the LMTs...wow...what a difference in quality compared the OEM wrenches (even the new one).
It is heavy duty and the torque break is very smooth. They aren't cheap new...about $180...but if you are lucky like me...you can find some in great condition on eBay from time to time...I got mine from $20 and it was lnib. Worthy investment if you ask me, especially if you have multiple LMTs. |
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Received my Seekonk MR1 TQ Wrench for the LMTs...wow...what a difference in quality compared the OEM wrenches (even the new one). It is heavy duty and the torque break is very smooth. They aren't cheap new...about $180...but if you are lucky like me...you can find some in great condition on eBay from time to time...I got mine from $20 and it was lnib. Worthy investment if you ask me, especially if you have multiple LMTs. View Quote The tech was surprised when it was over 95% accurate, his limit for calibration. |
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Originally Posted By AZ2A:
Yeah... it was in the EE yesterday or the day before. I hesitated for some stupid reason and bam, it sold View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By AZ2A:
I'll start the bidding at $350 for the 11.5" barrel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZ2A:
Originally Posted By StevieJ309: I'll post a picture of it for you guys when the upper arrives. I was lucky this one popped up when it did. I was in the middle of another 11.5" build, but I've always wanted an MRP so I ditched it for this. |
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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I've been waiting to hear LMT say this, or acknowledge this fact for a decade. This is from their Instagram account. They said it some time ago (Sept 18), but only saw it last night.
"lmtdefense: in the past, we didn’t give as much attention to the commercial market as we should have. Though our focus is still producing some of the worlds best duty weapons, grass roots customers have our attention." Also somebody recently asked me about the discount code, and said it wasn't working....however, I tried it last night and it was GTG. Debating buying the LMT ambi CH vs. Geissele ACH. I know the ACH is sexier, and sleeker...but I wonder if the LMT is stronger. Next major decision is if I'm gonna get the super cool sandcutter carrier for $250 or the technically superior enhanced carrier from LMT for $170. Really is a no brainer, but I want one of those sand cutters so bad. Sometimes rational loses out to emotion. Lastly, I'm trying to figure out if I want to use a gen3 scalerworks T-1 mount, or the KAC T-1 mount. That scalerworks mount seems awesome. |
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I'd personally skip the sandcutter. Wait til Brownells does another 10% coupon and get an LMT E-BCG for like $10 more.
Scalarworks is coming out with a 1.93" mount in a few days. That's what I'll be using on mine. |
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I think there were a few of us looking at that 11.5" barrel
I recently got a Scalarworks gen 2 MRO mount and I really like it so far. |
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
I'd personally skip the sandcutter. Wait til Brownells does another 10% coupon and get an LMT E-BCG for like $10 more. Scalarworks is coming out with a 1.93" mount in a few days. That's what I'll be using on mine. View Quote Originally Posted By hammermill290:
I think there were a few of us looking at that 11.5" barrel I recently got a Scalarworks gen 2 MRO mount and I really like it so far. View Quote |
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