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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:10:28 AM EDT
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I don't see anything wrong. Mainly because I don't see anything.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:12:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see anything wrong. Mainly because I don't see anything.  |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:32:21 AM EDT
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I don't see anything wrong. Mainly because I don't see anything.
Sorry I didn't think it would be a nightmare trying to upload photos from a damn iPhone if it's even possible... |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:36:19 AM EDT
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This is where you email photos to yourself and save them on your pc.
Then put them into flickr or imgur or something. Then we get to see. And prescribe. And you profit. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:45:44 AM EDT
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Photobucket has a phone app. Download it, upload pics to it and copy the URL code. I post everything from my phone
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:55:23 AM EDT
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If it's reality that messed up or poorly done, buy another brake and send the barrel and new brake to ADCO to remove the current brake and pin the new one, they do the best, and fastest pin jobs and are highly regarded here, they've done lots of work and built many uppers for me.
At least until I see pics that's all I got. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:55:40 AM EDT
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  That's a first for me. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:56:11 AM EDT
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I use tinypic to post here with my iPhone
Eta: am I missing the welds? Looks like pins in holes to me |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 10:58:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThanks secretwheelman |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:01:37 AM EDT
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They don't look like they are welded, which is required, unless it is a SBR I have never seen one pinned like this, but as long as he didn't perforate the barrel, I don't see why it wouldn't work. How long is the barrel?
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:07:30 AM EDT
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14.5 plus whatever the length of the brake is.
Just seems like a lot of extra work when there is a hole on the bottom meant for a pin. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:09:20 AM EDT
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Geez. Yeah I'd see about getting a refund or reimbursement for the muzzle device, and then send that thing to ADCO.
But I'd recommend you post in their forum so they can see it first and make sure they can handle that abortion http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_2/130_ADCO_Firearms.html |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:09:29 AM EDT
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It's not finished. The whole point in allowing it to be pinned is that the pins have to be welded-over so they don't 'fall out' and allow the muzzle device to be unscrewed, creating a SBR. Aside from that, I have to say that is an ugly job. First, you don't have to have but one pin. Second, I think maybe your choice of muzzle attachment was not thought out in advance to prevent this unfortunate pin location. Possibly the guy was right and he pretty much had to put the pin in that shoulder. But, I don't know why he did two pins.
If he fills the cuts with weldment and shapes them, the job can be saved to some extent. If you can't get the weldment to take cold blue, you can paint the whole attachment with medium-heat paint (500 degrees). |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:09:53 AM EDT
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14.5 plus whatever the length of the brake is. Well if you are wanting it to be 16" and not have to pay the tax man for the stamp, those pins need to be welded over. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:12:31 AM EDT
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Forgot to say that you should look carefully down the bore and make sure he did not put the pins into the bore. This would be a nasty surprise on the first shot.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:15:41 AM EDT
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I'm not anall at all about my guns, but that work would piss me off. That's the demonstration of someone who didn't know what they were doing or did and decided it was to hard to do the proper way. I'd be asking for a refund and a new brake.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:21:35 AM EDT
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Forgot to say that you should look carefully down the bore and make sure he did not put the pins into the bore. This would be a nasty surprise on the first shot. For sure! I'll take it back to them and give them a chance to repair it... Like I said it looks like a lot of work was put into it but damn, it does look unfinished and all I wanted was a simple pin and weld job and have it look somewhat untouched. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:25:55 AM EDT
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something?
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:37:00 AM EDT
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That is some hack job.
Refund for brake and barrel is needed. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:39:46 AM EDT
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:42:15 AM EDT
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Another hack job. Seems like there's a post like this every week. Use one of the trusted site sponsors.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:48:03 AM EDT
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Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... The smith? Is there some reason you're protecting his valuable reputation? |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 11:49:41 AM EDT
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Your "smith" should be footing the bill for fixing that.
He ruined the mount, and I'll be amazed if he didn't ruin your barrel. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:03:03 PM EDT
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Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... For that kind of money, you can get a new barrel and muzzle brake and have it done correctly! Which is what I would probably do, then have this one cut down for a SBR. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:09:19 PM EDT
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Whomever did that is NOT a gunsmith.That is piss-poor workmanship.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:10:51 PM EDT
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Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... He needs to buy you a new barrel and muzzle device. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:10:54 PM EDT
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Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... You paid for that hack job? What's this guy's name/company? |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:12:15 PM EDT
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... You paid for that hack job? What's this guy's name/company? This. And what did he charge you, if you don't mind? |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:13:50 PM EDT
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All SureFire SOCOM Series muzzle brakes have blind pilot holes at the 3 and 9 o’clock position to enable fine-tuning of recoil characteristics for individual shooting styles or ammunition characteristics. They also have blind pilot holes at the 6 o’clock position to enable indexing the adapter at bottom dead center, and to pin-and-weld on short-barreled rifles. All that is required is a basic hand drill and appropriate drill bits.
This is what it should have looked like. 
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:16:03 PM EDT
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I would have used the High Temperature Silver Solder method. No holes to drill.
LINK to DIY High Temp Silver Solder |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:16:33 PM EDT
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Talk about a gunsmith that don't have a clue.
Jeeeeez I'm guessing he has no idea about current gun laws, specs etc. I would probably take him to small claims court. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 12:30:35 PM EDT
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Soup sandwich, man.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 1:49:43 PM EDT
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Yea...., that's shit. I sure wouldn't mount my cans to that seeing as the ridge he cut at the back is what the can torques against. Said "smith" owes you a new muzzle brake and to pay for the repair. Hope the barrel is not trashed.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 1:59:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:02:21 PM EDT
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Well...just wow
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:19:38 PM EDT
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WTF!?
Seriously, it's a 5minute job with the right tools! Hell it's a 10min job with kind of the right tools. I would have been pissed, the shit's not rocket science. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:23:01 PM EDT
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You gotta tell us who this "Gunsmith" is so no one else is victimized by this person.
Give us all a fair warning! |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:39:10 PM EDT
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This "gunsmith" could have cost you a felony conviction and your ability to possess firearms for the rest of you life. What an idiot.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:46:26 PM EDT
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This is why I bough a harbor freight drill press and 110v mig welder. I do my own and they look pretty.
I've had ADCO do them, but I realized that I would save a bunch of $ doing it myself since 14.5 is my favorite barrel length. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:48:05 PM EDT
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WOW.
1) TWO pins? WHY? 2) On TOP? 3) he HACKED the rim of the brake that the can torques against. 4) did't even weld one of the pins in place 5) charged WAY too much. I'd be fuming if this were me, and I'm not easily pissed off. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:48:46 PM EDT
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Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow, that is all kinds of unacceptable. Did he think "2 pins = 1 pin + 1 weld" or something? Yeah I just contacted Adco I'll be sending it to them with a new brake I'm out 250.00 all together as of now It will cost me 450.00 by the time in done.. Lesson learned The smith acted like I was getting some kind of deal too when I picked it up... Point Steve to this thread, he may have mercy on you. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:53:46 PM EDT
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Looks like he was pinning a sight base by catching the sides of the barrel.
I have a few barrels with a 1/2 -28 thread that is only 1/2" long instead of 5/8" long because I thought the gunsmith knew what to do. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 2:53:52 PM EDT
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Did you pay him by CC? Dispute the charge and get your money back as he did poor work / potentially ruining your barrel- brake
You should post here and in your hometown forum the " gun plumbers " name to avoid this from happening to anyone else |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 3:06:00 PM EDT
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I'm a very easy guy to work with, and I would not have accepted that much less paid for it.
Name the shop so others can avoid it until that gunsmith can learn to not destroy muzzle devices. It's not even welded, you paid for services not provided. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 3:10:12 PM EDT
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Whomever did that is NOT a gunsmith.That is piss-poor workmanship. See, the thing is, it's not. Whatever the hell he did, he did it well, looks like he milled two flat spots, drilled into them, then pressed or threaded the "pins" in there, and they're flush. It's QUALITY WORK, but it's done ABSOLUTELY INCORRECTLY. For your situation, I'm willing to bet it's going to cost less overall to get a new barrel, new muzzle device, and send it to ADCO, while simultaneously obtaining some counseling to prevent PTSD. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 3:12:59 PM EDT
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I'd also like to know who did that. Half of my family lives in Las Vegas and I spend a good bit of time there. I'd like to avoid this gunsmith if he's anywhere near that part of Nevada.
I agree that it looks like he put a bit of time and attention into it. Just did it all wrong. Of course, he may be great and just didn't know how to work with the SF brake. I'd be interested to hear how he responded before we call for the death of his livelihood. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 3:17:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2016 5:16:41 PM EDT
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JRH advanced gun smithing
Again I think the work is probably quality as others have noted Please note I would like to give the chance to make things right... I will update as to what he says.. |
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Posted: 4/17/2016 5:55:53 PM EDT
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Looking at his website and photo gallery, that just doesn't seem to be the same guy who worked on your rifle. Some of those pistol builds are beautiful. I'd definitely go talk to the guy and ask why it needed to be done that way instead of the way the maker intended.
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Posted: 4/17/2016 6:38:18 PM EDT
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That could be salvaged a number of ways without buying new parts. Just takes the right tools and a bit of time.
If that shoulder is for reference and not sealing, then you could spot the pins and debur the machined edges. If the shoulder is for sealing, then it could be welded up and machined back down to original dimensions. Would need some refinishing. I'm not a gunsmith, but welding, machining, and fixing junk is kinda my thing. |
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