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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:55:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zakk101abn]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBach:
Elcan master race Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost 
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:57:54 AM EDT
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I hope all you gays start buying Elcans and Aimpoints.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 10:01:58 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H1H0AG:
That makes two of us....  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H1H0AG:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
seriously. That's all it is. I was at a place where Surefire reps came in and started passing out coupons to the 5 of us that were in the store. I was just hanging out with friends who work there, I didn't work at the place either lol. That makes two of us.... Damn, that is a crazy deal. I thought $800 from AU was a good deal. I'm about to buy one on Friday when I get paid. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 10:05:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
I hope all you gays start buying Elcans and Aimpoints. More Eotechs for me
Yup. And I'll lowball them for selling a defective optic.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 10:10:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Hot shit. Let's shoot soon |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:21:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Needs more NT4 
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Posted: 9/30/2015 12:15:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Izhevsk54r]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye:
Damn, that is a crazy deal. I thought $800 from AU was a good deal. I'm about to buy one on Friday when I get paid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye:
Originally Posted By H1H0AG:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
seriously. That's all it is. I was at a place where Surefire reps came in and started passing out coupons to the 5 of us that were in the store. I was just hanging out with friends who work there, I didn't work at the place either lol. That makes two of us.... Damn, that is a crazy deal. I thought $800 from AU was a good deal. I'm about to buy one on Friday when I get paid. Not trying to dissuade you but you should read through this thread and get ready for a longer wait and potential fuck ups on their end. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Apologies in advance if this has already been posted. I learned about the EOTech 553 due to this thread, so figured you guys would be interested. USSOCOM Issues Safety of Use Message for EOTech Enhanced Combat Optical Sights – Plus More Goings On "While there is a great deal of information in the SOUM, two glaring issues stick out. The first is the reliability of the HWS in extreme temperatures, referred to as “Thermal Drift”. The PMO has noted a +/- 4 MOA shift at -40 Deg F and 122 Deg F. Second, is the concern over the claim by EOTech that their HWS are parallax free which was the subject of a previous Safety of Use Message from the same office issued 16 March, 2015. In this case they noted between 4 and 6 MOA parallax error depending on temperature conditions. Despite the PMO working with EOTech to rectify the issues, they still have not been resolved." Fuuucckk. I just got my first EOtech. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:03:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Not trying to dissuade you but you should read through this thread and get ready for a longer wait and potential fuck ups on their end. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Izhevsk54r:
Originally Posted By sbye:
Originally Posted By H1H0AG:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
seriously. That's all it is. I was at a place where Surefire reps came in and started passing out coupons to the 5 of us that were in the store. I was just hanging out with friends who work there, I didn't work at the place either lol. That makes two of us.... Damn, that is a crazy deal. I thought $800 from AU was a good deal. I'm about to buy one on Friday when I get paid. Not trying to dissuade you but you should read through this thread and get ready for a longer wait and potential fuck ups on their end. Thanks! I'll check that out. Honestly, I'll still probably order it lol. Quite a few people in have have had their form 3's approved already. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:04:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brad192:
Fuuucckk. I just got my first EOtech. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brad192:
Originally Posted By von_landstuhl:
Apologies in advance if this has already been posted. I learned about the EOTech 553 due to this thread, so figured you guys would be interested. USSOCOM Issues Safety of Use Message for EOTech Enhanced Combat Optical Sights – Plus More Goings On "While there is a great deal of information in the SOUM, two glaring issues stick out. The first is the reliability of the HWS in extreme temperatures, referred to as “Thermal Drift”. The PMO has noted a +/- 4 MOA shift at -40 Deg F and 122 Deg F. Second, is the concern over the claim by EOTech that their HWS are parallax free which was the subject of a previous Safety of Use Message from the same office issued 16 March, 2015. In this case they noted between 4 and 6 MOA parallax error depending on temperature conditions. Despite the PMO working with EOTech to rectify the issues, they still have not been resolved." Fuuucckk. I just got my first EOtech. I plan to keep using them. I have never had any issues with mine. Plus, I'm not putting it through the same stress that SOCOM does |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:09:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheGreatDanton]
[#11]
Were the CQBR Block I uppers chopped down 14.5" or factory 10.3"?
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:16:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
Were the CQBR Block I uppers chopped down 14.5" or factory 10.3"? Both. Crane did (and still does AFAIK) a ton of chop jobs but there's also been plenty of factory 10.3" factory barrels ordered. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:18:22 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Both. Crane did (and still does AFAIK) a ton of chop jobs but there's also been plenty of factory 10.3" factory barrels ordered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
Were the CQBR Block I uppers chopped down 14.5" or factory 10.3"? Both. Crane did (and still does AFAIK) a ton of chop jobs but there's also been plenty of factory 10.3" factory barrels ordered. You see the links are broken on the first page? |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:20:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
You see the links are broken on the first page? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By TheGreatDanton:
Were the CQBR Block I uppers chopped down 14.5" or factory 10.3"? Both. Crane did (and still does AFAIK) a ton of chop jobs but there's also been plenty of factory 10.3" factory barrels ordered. You see the links are broken on the first page? Eeek, sorry about that. I'm busy this week but next week I can clean it up, fix links and rewrite some of it. Thanks for the heads up! |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:22:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Hey, I'm trying to get feedback on using an RMR as a primary RDS on a carbine. And since I've seen it mostly done on MK18 real deal or copies, I thought I'd ask for some help. But it might be interesting for others to see in the optics forum too.
So if any of you have done this, want to do it, or have any kind of thought on that matter, especially if you have experience with RMR's in general, or as a back up, I'm all ears..... Thanks for listening. 
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/681847_RMR_s_on_a_carbine_as_the_primary_sighting______yay_or_nay__input_welcomed_____more_info_on___.html |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 5:21:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Appropriate pic for today's breaking news: 
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Posted: 9/30/2015 7:23:33 PM EDT
[#17]
This is pretty embarrassing for Eotech. I'm hearing of a few employees stepping down as well. This is going to end up being big. In my mileage I've had great luck with my 553, wonder how this will all play out.
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Posted: 9/30/2015 7:32:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Hot shit. Let's shoot soon Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Hot shit. Let's shoot soon Lez duet! |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 9:37:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Niiiice dude! Any idea when you get to take her home? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By shawski:
Was able to see my RC tonight http://<a href=http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u534/jmshaw1981/041_zpsjwjqv66x.jpg</a>" /> Niiiice dude! Any idea when you get to take her home? Probably be March or April. Sent in a form 4 for that RC and an RC2. Might get my AEM5 by Christmas. |
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Posted: 9/30/2015 10:12:53 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desertvago44:
This is pretty embarrassing for Eotech. I'm hearing of a few employees stepping down as well. This is going to end up being big. In my mileage I've had great luck with my 553, wonder how this will all play out. I hear VW is hiring. 
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:25:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2015 11:50:33 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm glad I waited to pick up an EXPS - sales event of the decade coming up shortly...
On another note, had a visit with the can tonight - can't wait for the stamp. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 12:28:13 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
I'm glad I waited to pick up an EXPS - sales event of the decade coming up shortly... On another note, had a visit with the can tonight - can't wait for the stamp. Seriously, please. I'm a range rat. Won't be shooting in no hot hot heat or balls ass cold |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:39:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By DocBach:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Wow! It will be interesting to see how this plays out Elcan master race He he he Now that I STILL don't have an optic for my B2, I'm thinking I'll sell the Comp 3/Wilcox set up towards a T1... Because I can. Repost http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsglvdstwr.jpg Wow, nicely done. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 12:43:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OSS_Suppressors]
[#25]
Edited and removed. Sorry for any offense
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:11:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OSS_Suppressors:
Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF… 
ETA: Page ownage: 
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:18:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By OSS_Suppressors:
Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg I love that first pic. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:29:32 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By OSS_Suppressors:
Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:34:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ECPrevatte]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By OSS_Suppressors:
Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. It's not a real "MK18" though. The only commonalities that thing has is a rail and barrel length. And it has a post sample lower. That's about it. The RIS and or SBR thread is a much better fit for that gun. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 1:44:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
It's not a real "MK18" though. The only commonalities that thing has is a rail and barrel length. And it has a post sample lower. That's about it. The RIS and or SBR thread is a much better fit for that gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By OSS_Suppressors:
Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF…
ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. It's not a real "MK18" though. The only commonalities that thing has is a rail and barrel length. And it has a post sample lower. That's about it. The RIS and or SBR thread is a much better fit for that gun. Being the guy who took the photo, I can shed some light maybe. The lower is technically a mil-spec Colt M4 full auto lower, that is on a MK18 upper. OSS uses their engraver to mark all of their lowers, even the colt lowers. What you see on the magwell is "OSS Murray, UT" |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:01:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Ok. So buy a MK18 upper from DD and put nothing that has been issued to Block IIs and CQBRs and post it here.
That's not really the point of this thread. MK18 is a weapon developed by the Navy, not the upper sold by DD. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:04:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Looking for some education. Other than the light mount, suppressor, and flip up sights what isn't in spec?
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:32:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chenault:
Looking for some education. Other than the light mount, suppressor, and flip up sights what isn't in spec? Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:34:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chenault]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Looking for some education. Other than the light mount, suppressor, and flip up sights what isn't in spec? Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. So could it not be a CQBR. If so is it just a wording issue? I ask because of the first page there is soldier sitting down with one that has the Aimpoint, Magpul stock, Magpul hand guards, Surefire light and switch and Magpul angular foregrip. Again looking for some education. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:39:39 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OSS_Suppressors: Not a clone...so it counts? https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/727/21677876900_a541de9595_h.jpg  |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:41:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chenault:
So could it not be a CQBR. If so is it just a wording issue? I ask because of the first page there is soldier sitting down with one that has the Aimpoint, Magpul stock, Magpul hand guards, Surefire light and switch and Magpul angular foregrip. Again looking for some education. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Looking for some education. Other than the light mount, suppressor, and flip up sights what isn't in spec? Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. So could it not be a CQBR. If so is it just a wording issue? I ask because of the first page there is soldier sitting down with one that has the Aimpoint, Magpul stock, Magpul hand guards, Surefire light and switch and Magpul angular foregrip. Again looking for some education. I'm not the thread Nazi so don't ask me lol. Given the variety I see in this thread, I would have thought the post was compliant. But I didn't post it, nor did I criticize it.. Looking for education as well I guess. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 2:58:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By chenault: Looking for some education. Other than the light mount, suppressor, and flip up sights what isn't in spec? Well if we're talking Block II stuff...a lot. missing Stock, and KAC irons, also an EOTech or Elcan etc. No AFG, no TG mag etc. That stuff is personal purchase. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't count towards a clone if the end user was comfortable with whatever they had. I guess my M16A4 wasn't to spec either because I put a 6-9" Harris bipod in a ARMS 17 mount, Larue ACOG mount, Tango down vertical grip, and PRI Big latch charging handle in my M16...as none of that was issued to me or my unit. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 3:03:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
I'm not the thread Nazi so don't ask me lol. Given the variety I see in this thread, I would have thought the post was compliant. But I didn't post it, nor did I criticize it.. Looking for education as well I guess. There's no hard and fast rules, that would be impossible. But the spirit of this thread is to discuss the 10.3" Mk 18 / CQBR weapon system that's issued by the US .mil and kitted out with SOPMOD accessories. When people "clone" and post variety in here, it's usually people in process of trying to achieve that goal but having to compromise on 1 or 2 parts because they're unavailable, unnecessary, etc… And as for variety, there are some things that will be commonly swapped out and some other things less commonly swapped out. You don't see much variety with things like suppressors, rails and LAMs because it's somewhat unfeasible to do so. But for stuff easily switched out like lights, optics (to some degree), stocks, etc… that's where you'll see the variety. The post came off wrong because it's clearly not trying to clone anything. Every accessory is not SOPMOD. The suppressor is clearly something that would never be used. And then noticing that it was posted by the company that makes the suppressor and they only have 9 posts … it just comes off like it's not someone who's trying to contribute to the discussion or in any way really, but instead, just post their cheap advertisement of their product in a highly traffic'd thread where it'd get a lot of views. Maybe not, but that's how it came across. There's no way to make up hard and fast rules around this (or any) clone thread. But usually people are generally pretty polite about understanding the nature and spirit of it and attempting to keep it somewhat on topic. That's not being a nazi, that's just simply trying to have a topical discussion. There's plenty of other threads where that build would be on topic and spark productive discussion. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 3:07:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dangerdan]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By OSS_Suppressors: Not a clone... Then why is it in here? WTF… ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. I don't think it's a "real" Mk18. The lower, while being select fire, says "Murray, UT" engraved on the magwell. I'm willing to bet OSS manufactured a select fire lower receiver. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Being the guy who took the photo, I can shed some light maybe. The lower is technically a mil-spec Colt M4 full auto lower, that is on a MK18 upper. OSS uses their engraver to mark all of their lowers, even the colt lowers. What you see on the magwell is "OSS Murray, UT" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By ECPrevatte: Originally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb Then why is it in here? WTF… ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. It's not a real "MK18" though. The only commonalities that thing has is a rail and barrel length. And it has a post sample lower. That's about it. The RIS and or SBR thread is a much better fit for that gun. Being the guy who took the photo, I can shed some light maybe. The lower is technically a mil-spec Colt M4 full auto lower, that is on a MK18 upper. OSS uses their engraver to mark all of their lowers, even the colt lowers. What you see on the magwell is "OSS Murray, UT" I seem to remember a similar product pimping with SLR stuff. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 3:19:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: So are you suing the OSS login to post your pics? I seem to remember a similar product pimping with SLR stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Originally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By ECPrevatte: Originally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb Then why is it in here? WTF… ETA: Page ownage: http://i.imgur.com/rKXuSNI.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GU38769.jpg Title: Official mk18 and CQBR photo and discussion thread... If its a real Mk18... I wouldn't think there would be any problem.. But I do like your page ownage pics. It's not a real "MK18" though. The only commonalities that thing has is a rail and barrel length. And it has a post sample lower. That's about it. The RIS and or SBR thread is a much better fit for that gun. Being the guy who took the photo, I can shed some light maybe. The lower is technically a mil-spec Colt M4 full auto lower, that is on a MK18 upper. OSS uses their engraver to mark all of their lowers, even the colt lowers. What you see on the magwell is "OSS Murray, UT" I seem to remember a similar product pimping with SLR stuff. I foresee a certain Site Staff chiming in in the future telling him/them to knock it off or pay up. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 3:31:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62: Gonna throw in my $0.02 here and someone correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, there is a variety of accessories/components on rifles here, but it may just be the fact that there are too many parts that aren't considered mk18/cqbr clone parts on that particular rifle and, from what I've been told before, the intention to make the rifle a clone may not be there. For example, my rifle below was intended on being a clone of the cqbr block ii in the first place and prior to its current configuration, I had a clone correct MD, clone correct mx3 light with dual switch and clone correct pistol grip. In the process, I changed some parts because this rifle.is a shooter and I wanted what fitted my needs/wants a bit more and still were parts seen on other rifles in the field. I honestly believe that if the sights were changed to the clone correct KAC iron sights, checnge the light to a either the m3x with dual switch or a surefire scout and maybe take off those rail panels, this forum would probably be a bit more accepting of it. http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/jparish62/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150925_140219062_zpsepgpo06g.jpg |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:20:26 PM EDT
[#44]
They should prolly ditch that can and get a KAC NT4 or Socom RC
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:21:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ECPrevatte]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
There's no hard and fast rules, that would be impossible. But the spirit of this thread is to discuss the 10.3" Mk 18 / CQBR weapon system that's issued by the US .mil and kitted out with SOPMOD accessories. When people "clone" and post variety in here, it's usually people in process of trying to achieve that goal but having to compromise on 1 or 2 parts because they're unavailable, unnecessary, etc… And as for variety, there are some things that will be commonly swapped out and some other things less commonly swapped out. You don't see much variety with things like suppressors, rails and LAMs because it's somewhat unfeasible to do so. But for stuff easily switched out like lights, optics (to some degree), stocks, etc… that's where you'll see the variety. The post came off wrong because it's clearly not trying to clone anything. Every accessory is not SOPMOD. The suppressor is clearly something that would never be used. And then noticing that it was posted by the company that makes the suppressor and they only have 9 posts … it just comes off like it's not someone who's trying to contribute to the discussion or in any way really, but instead, just post their cheap advertisement of their product in a highly traffic'd thread where it'd get a lot of views. Maybe not, but that's how it came across. There's no way to make up hard and fast rules around this (or any) clone thread. But usually people are generally pretty polite about understanding the nature and spirit of it and attempting to keep it somewhat on topic. That's not being a nazi, that's just simply trying to have a topical discussion. There's plenty of other threads where that build would be on topic and spark productive discussion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By Munition:
I'm not the thread Nazi so don't ask me lol. Given the variety I see in this thread, I would have thought the post was compliant. But I didn't post it, nor did I criticize it.. Looking for education as well I guess. There's no hard and fast rules, that would be impossible. But the spirit of this thread is to discuss the 10.3" Mk 18 / CQBR weapon system that's issued by the US .mil and kitted out with SOPMOD accessories. When people "clone" and post variety in here, it's usually people in process of trying to achieve that goal but having to compromise on 1 or 2 parts because they're unavailable, unnecessary, etc… And as for variety, there are some things that will be commonly swapped out and some other things less commonly swapped out. You don't see much variety with things like suppressors, rails and LAMs because it's somewhat unfeasible to do so. But for stuff easily switched out like lights, optics (to some degree), stocks, etc… that's where you'll see the variety. The post came off wrong because it's clearly not trying to clone anything. Every accessory is not SOPMOD. The suppressor is clearly something that would never be used. And then noticing that it was posted by the company that makes the suppressor and they only have 9 posts … it just comes off like it's not someone who's trying to contribute to the discussion or in any way really, but instead, just post their cheap advertisement of their product in a highly traffic'd thread where it'd get a lot of views. Maybe not, but that's how it came across. There's no way to make up hard and fast rules around this (or any) clone thread. But usually people are generally pretty polite about understanding the nature and spirit of it and attempting to keep it somewhat on topic. That's not being a nazi, that's just simply trying to have a topical discussion. There's plenty of other threads where that build would be on topic and spark productive discussion. That was my issue. When you dump a picture and leave without contributing anything on a rifle that has very little to do with the vast majority of the content in this thread it stands out. I am far from being a clone Nazi, but lately I think we've gotten loose with stuff. We've seen troy sights, MOE grips and stocks, AFGs, Aimpoints, and other various little do-dads but in my opinion when you take every single odd/non-issued item from hundreds of issued rifles and making your own is not in the faith of the clone thread. Either pick a rifle that has some of those odd parts (like the one with the MRD as the sole optic) and clone that, or try and build something that is close to issue. I'm done with it though. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:34:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
So are you suing the OSS login to post your pics? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
So are you suing the OSS login to post your pics? Not sure what you meant there, but let me clear things up before the ignorance grows. Not at all actually. I simply took the photo. OSS adds what they wish, and posts it as they see fit. I didn't post the photo, OSS did. Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
I seem to remember a similar product pimping with SLR stuff. As with the SLR situation, very different situation entirely. I was offered a prototype rail. At the time of me receiving the rail, SLR was not scheduled to even produce it. I owned the rail and photos. The idea was to also see if there would be any interest generated in that kind of rail. So depending on what the rhetoric was, SLR was going to make a decision. The Mods didn't feel that I was advertising, but it was a grey area. If SLR wanted previews of their prototype stuff, they should be doing the posting. So SLR took over and that was that. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:42:03 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Not sure what you meant there, but let me clear things up before the ignorance grows. Not at all actually. I simply took the photo. OSS adds what they wish, and posts it as they see fit. I didn't post the photo, OSS did. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Munition:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
So are you suing the OSS login to post your pics? Not sure what you meant there, but let me clear things up before the ignorance grows. Not at all actually. I simply took the photo. OSS adds what they wish, and posts it as they see fit. I didn't post the photo, OSS did. That isn't what AZ was asking. |
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:45:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanCheese]
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Posted: 10/1/2015 4:46:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stickman]
[#49]
Quote HistoryNicely done, I wish more people would post pictures or talk about the weapon system, because the last 6 months or so has been more comments about dogs, how to take pictures, and other stupid crap than it has about the actual weapon system or clones. If people want to complain, they should be complaining about the off topic non-stop garbage and obvious sales pitches this thread has turned into. Just my 2 cents, in the end the thread will run the way it runs. If people think things are getting shilled, they can hit the report button and please their case to Staff or mods. 
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Posted: 10/1/2015 5:01:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stickman: That isn't what AZ was asking. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stickman: Originally Posted By Munition: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: So are you suing the OSS login to post your pics? Not sure what you meant there, but let me clear things up before the ignorance grows. Not at all actually. I simply took the photo. OSS adds what they wish, and posts it as they see fit. I didn't post the photo, OSS did. That isn't what AZ was asking. I think AZ meant "using" |
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