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Posted: 12/29/2014 3:09:14 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Lots of people distrust the ARMS mounts. I am one of them. I would dump the ARMS mount and use a LaRue, or a Bobro. I would second that. I've never had a problem (even bridging a rail with them) but I can see the inherent flaw in their design. Highly recommend the LaRue SPR-E |
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Posted: 1/1/2015 4:58:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2015 9:00:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Very nice.
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Posted: 1/2/2015 1:38:02 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Happy New Years! Quick crappy pic of mine at present. 
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/M16A4Clone2015-1.jpg Concur, very nicely done. 
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Posted: 1/2/2015 2:14:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 40mmMike]
[#5]
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries.
My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. 
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Posted: 1/2/2015 2:17:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg Do you switch the stocks and extensions back and forth? If not im in the market for an A4 stock,ext,buffer and spring |
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2015 2:22:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 40mmMike]
[#7]
Already sold it.
 I still have the buttstock map pouch though.
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2015 5:30:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Some great looking rifles in here guys!
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Posted: 1/2/2015 9:02:00 PM EDT
[#9]
Just dropped $160 on a Colt A2 stock kit, will be all up in this joint soon fellas.
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Posted: 1/2/2015 9:56:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I like the Vltor stocks on the A4 but that SOPMOD looks awesome!! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2015 1:40:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solaran_X]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 1:50:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solaran_X:
I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solaran_X:
Originally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 2:27:35 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Solaran_X:
Originally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world He speaks of this: 
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Posted: 1/5/2015 3:47:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
He speaks of this: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss13/huge/P1100769.jpg Looks like they could trim at least a pound of weight off of that thing. 
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Posted: 1/5/2015 3:55:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
He speaks of this: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss13/huge/P1100769.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Solaran_X:
Originally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world He speaks of this: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss13/huge/P1100769.jpg That is civilian creation and looks like neither of the USMC's A4PIP candidates |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 4:00:00 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
That is civilian creation and looks like neither of the USMC's A4PIP candidates Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Solaran_X:
Originally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world He speaks of this: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss13/huge/P1100769.jpg That is civilian creation and looks like neither of the USMC's A4PIP candidates Agreed. I don't even like the sound of M16A5. Sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Get that shit out of our kitchen 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2015 5:27:13 PM EDT
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Granted, this information is about 2 years old now. But you know how fast government works.
http://looserounds.com/2013/01/21/rumors-on-the-usmc-m16a5/ |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 5:43:00 PM EDT
[#18]
I've read/heard from a couple of sources that the M16A4 PIP or M16A5 has been canned and it was decided to just give the infantry M4s.
But I am not in any more, I have no clue what goes on in the heads of the higher ups. |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 5:54:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311:
I've read/heard from a couple of sources that the M16A4 PIP or M16A5 has been canned and it was decided to just give the infantry M4s. But I am not in any more, I have no clue what goes on in the heads of the higher ups. You have heard correctly the A4PIP was put on hold because of cost benefit analysis and the fact the Marine Corps has over 80k M4s it can redistribute to cover all infantry and infantry like battalions in the force |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 5:57:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311:
I've read/heard from a couple of sources that the M16A4 PIP or M16A5 has been canned and it was decided to just give the infantry M4s. But I am not in any more, I have no clue what goes on in the heads of the higher ups. I wouldnt be surprised if that was truth. Compact seems to be the way things have been heading for a while in all variants of the m16/m4 family. Not to mention funds... |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 5:57:31 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solaran_X:
Granted, this information is about 2 years old now. But you know how fast government works. http://looserounds.com/2013/01/21/rumors-on-the-usmc-m16a5/ I probably have more accurate info than that site |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 6:54:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
That is civilian creation and looks like neither of the USMC's A4PIP candidates Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
Originally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Solaran_X:
Originally Posted By 40mmMike:
Technically still a A4, but you could call it an A5, recently installed a H6 buffer from Damage Industries. My first ar15, assembled from a parts bin in a Pawn shop outside Fort Stewart years ago. Intentional clone of a A4, FN barrel. Used to wear an Acog. https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8636/15985675299_4dbccc40f9_c.jpg I thought the M16A5 was supposed to get a monolithic Vltor URG as well? There is no such thing as an M16A5 outside of the commercial world He speaks of this: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ss13/huge/P1100769.jpg That is civilian creation and looks like neither of the USMC's A4PIP candidates What do those look like? |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 7:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
I probably have more accurate info than that site Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R0N:
Originally Posted By Solaran_X:
Granted, this information is about 2 years old now. But you know how fast government works. http://looserounds.com/2013/01/21/rumors-on-the-usmc-m16a5/ I probably have more accurate info than that site Ron, I just looked it up. This ugly ass "A5" was vltor's entrant in the PIP. Looks like they didn't make it very far due to good reason. It looks like shit, any knuckle dragger would probably break that stock on the first TIC it sees, and Marines + keymod = no go. |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:06:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Just scored a brand new Sabre A4 barrel at the gun show.
Now, which ACOG am I looking for?
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:10:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coctailer:
Just scored a brand new Sabre A4 barrel at the gun show. Now, which ACOG am I looking for? Gimme
The ACOG you want is the TA31RCO-A4CP |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:11:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coctailer:
Just scored a brand new Sabre A4 barrel at the gun show. Now, which ACOG am I looking for? TA31F or TA31RCO-A4CP (AN/PVQ-31A). ~Augee |
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Posted: 1/5/2015 9:38:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxmav3rickxo:
What do those look like? Initial PIP was just an A4 with a caged barrel and collapsible stock, the subsequent and more promising PIP was with a sturdier collapsing stock (not of the type thought of or called an A5), a 16" mid-lengthened, Non-FSB caged barrel, compensator, two staged trigger and suppressor. |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 12:53:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Happy New Years! Quick crappy pic of mine at present.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/M16A4Clone2015-1.jpg Unless I'm seeing things, your carry handle is mounted wrong. Move it one slot up. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 1/6/2015 1:04:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Yes it's mounted too far aft.
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Posted: 1/6/2015 2:04:20 PM EDT
[#30]
He just pulled it from the weapons rack.
Now THAT is "clone" ;) |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 3:58:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71]
[#31]
Yes - I did pull it from the weapons rack. :) Though they are correct as I should have taken the few seconds to return the carry handle to it's proper position before snapping that photo.
 Attached FileWhen I finish building it's final resting place (cage assembly in the gun room), I'll put up some proper pics :D |
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Posted: 1/6/2015 4:02:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ankratz]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
Yes - I did pull it from the weapons rack. :) http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/M12Rack1.jpg When I finish building it's final resting place (cage assembly in the gun room), I'll put up some proper pics :D FUCKING BADASS I want one of those! Can you lock it for some degree of theft protection? Doh---just saw the lock. That's awesome! |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 9:25:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Not really an A4. But I thought this was interesting.
 British Volunteers in Syria Defamed Over YPG Service |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2015 3:34:47 AM EDT
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BCM classy. |
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Posted: 1/11/2015 3:59:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: noob5000000]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Marines + keymod = no go. I don't know, the holes kind of look like dicks, it might be perfect . (I often hear that USMC bathroom walls are covered in dick drawings)
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Posted: 1/11/2015 4:09:27 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000:
I don't know, the holes kind of look like dicks, it might be perfect . (I often hear that USMC bathroom walls are covered in dick drawings)Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Marines + keymod = no go. I don't know, the holes kind of look like dicks, it might be perfect . (I often hear that USMC bathroom walls are covered in dick drawings)Lol you ever partied with Marines? If you do just don't fall asleep first, and especially with your shoes on. You'll wake up with sharpie dicks all over you. Marines love drawing dicks. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2015 7:51:36 PM EDT
[#37]
I took this out to 400 yards on steel today with both the irons and the acog :)
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2015 2:22:04 PM EDT
[#38]
I like the woodpile pics. I bet it was fun shooting that far out. Is your trigger real stiff?
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Posted: 1/14/2015 11:32:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ankratz]
[#39]
I found some photochops of my concept for an "A4FSP" that I would still someday like to build. Two are chops from the net, the other chop is a pic of an FNA2 rifle I used to have. I was thinking about this long before HSP Dropwing mounts came out, so I guess the concept is kind of pointless, but it sure looks bad as shit, I think.
Dig it: 
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Posted: 1/15/2015 5:43:31 AM EDT
[#40]
With that setup, the ability to use a bayonet would be lost.
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Posted: 1/15/2015 6:54:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Assuming you use a DD LITE 14.0, the hardest part to cut would be milling out the holes to drive the FSB pins in. Dimensionally though, you could remove more material up front and create enough space to allow use of the bayonet lug.
At that point, you're really just getting the benefit out of the R and L rails on either side of the FSB. Again, the point of which is rendered unnecessary with mounts such as the Dropwing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 12:52:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ankratz:
At that point, you're really just getting the benefit out of the R and L rails on either side of the FSB. Again, the point of which is rendered unnecessary with mounts such as the Dropwing. You could use a Thorntail on the side rails and get the light "more outer."
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Posted: 1/15/2015 2:49:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
You could use a Thorntail on the side rails and get the light "more outer."
~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By ankratz:
At that point, you're really just getting the benefit out of the R and L rails on either side of the FSB. Again, the point of which is rendered unnecessary with mounts such as the Dropwing. You could use a Thorntail on the side rails and get the light "more outer."
~Augee Haha! Exactly! :) |
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Posted: 1/15/2015 4:05:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Love it. I have a Match Target lower also, I was going to do what you have, but did a Block 1 instead.
Nice Rifle |
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Posted: 1/16/2015 10:51:01 AM EDT
[#45]
If you use an original length thorntail, and you mount it all the way forward on the side of the M5, it will clear the launcher mounts / cut outs, and put a standard sized scout far enough forward that it clears the FSB. Of course you'll need a tapeswitch to reach that far.
I'll see if I can find the pictures....
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Posted: 1/16/2015 2:04:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot:
Of course you'll need a tapeswitch to reach that far. Though not completely related - I have an Insight (IIRC, from an AN/PEQ-2A, though I can't really remember how I came across it ) that's got what feels like a full yard of wire, though I'm sure if I ever measured it, it would probably come out to be no more than 18" or so...
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WV, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 7:14:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Do I count? CMMC lower FFE a4 upper cmmg BCG rra a2 stock.... Waiting on a quadrail
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2015 8:00:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
TA31F or TA31RCO-A4CP (AN/PVQ-31A). ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Augee:
Originally Posted By coctailer:
Just scored a brand new Sabre A4 barrel at the gun show. Now, which ACOG am I looking for? TA31F or TA31RCO-A4CP (AN/PVQ-31A). ~Augee Yep. That is what I have on mine. 
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Posted: 1/22/2015 11:44:00 PM EDT
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Brought my girl out of mothballs. Circa 2003 - 2007. Hands down, my all time favorite version of the M16 variant rifles. Still need that pesky PEQ 2!!
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2015 8:51:31 AM EDT
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1/7 sabre defense barrel that was gave to me ,, anderson stripped upper and lower ,and the rest of the stuff from my accumulated parts bin , ta 31f acog . the flash hider is a yhm Q.D. for my yhm phantom . I was gonna do the kac drop in handguards and add some more stuff but after spending the day in ignorant bliss banging away on an 8 inch gong at 150 yds I think I am just going to get a matech buis and a better trigger and call it good .
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