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Posted: 1/9/2020 6:23:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: emtothedee]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sabre675:
Sweet. Man you’ve gotten a lot of optic exposure. I’m envious. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By emtothedee: Hopefully I’ll know soon. I switched to the 3gr from the SM1. SM1 wasn’t very good at distance. Too easy to get lost in the subtensions. 
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Posted: 1/9/2020 6:39:41 PM EDT
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Does this optic setup qualify for a recce? Hah
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Posted: 1/9/2020 7:33:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Does this optic setup qualify for a recce? Hah https://i.vgy.me/l1rEIB.jpg |
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Posted: 1/9/2020 9:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By emtothedee: Hopefully I’ll know soon. I switched to the 3gr from the SM1. SM1 wasn’t very good at distance. Too easy to get lost in the subtensions. https://i.vgy.me/pLOl0K.jpg 
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Posted: 1/10/2020 1:55:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
That's a perfect shooting spot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By emtothedee: Hopefully I’ll know soon. I switched to the 3gr from the SM1. SM1 wasn’t very good at distance. Too easy to get lost in the subtensions. https://i.vgy.me/pLOl0K.jpg |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 7:05:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Had some steel hidden out there. Border patrol bastards found em and took them Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By Sabre675:
Originally Posted By emtothedee: Hopefully I’ll know soon. I switched to the 3gr from the SM1. SM1 wasn’t very good at distance. Too easy to get lost in the subtensions. https://i.vgy.me/pLOl0K.jpg 
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Posted: 1/10/2020 10:05:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Does this optic setup qualify for a recce? Hah https://i.vgy.me/l1rEIB.jpg |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 6:05:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedorrero79:
OK, seriously - how well does that optic work? I saw it for the first time the other day and was curious about it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pedorrero79:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Does this optic setup qualify for a recce? Hah https://i.vgy.me/l1rEIB.jpg |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 9:40:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
The setup is fast af. Putting them on FAST risers has added to the capabilities as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
Originally Posted By pedorrero79:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
Does this optic setup qualify for a recce? Hah https://i.vgy.me/l1rEIB.jpg |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 9:01:56 PM EDT
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Question for you guys running rainier ultramatch barrels. Im looking at 16" ultramatch and all I see it avalible with an intermediate gas length. Is anyone running this setup, if so how do you like it? Are you running a .75 or .80 gas port size. Lastly I was planning on running this on an Aero Precision M4E1 upper with an Atlas r-one rail, does anyone know if an intermediate length gas system will work with this? Thanks for the info guys
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Posted: 1/25/2020 12:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CSAKing:
Question for you guys running rainier ultramatch barrels. Im looking at 16" ultramatch and all I see it avalible with an intermediate gas length. Is anyone running this setup, if so how do you like it? Are you running a .75 or .80 gas port size. Lastly I was planning on running this on an Aero Precision M4E1 upper with an Atlas r-one rail, does anyone know if an intermediate length gas system will work with this? Thanks for the info guys .75 = 3/4" |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 2:35:45 AM EDT
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Finally got this up and running. It wasn't without its issues though, I didn't realize the gas block had lost a set screw, and the retaining pin was slightly misaligned so without the suppressor it was having short stroking problems and I was having to pull the CH on damn near every round. So I guess I'll be getting the PRI gas block sooner then I had planned.
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Posted: 2/5/2020 4:31:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tombo192192]
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 Attached FilePretty much a budget recce build in progress. I just use what I can and upgrade as I go along. PSA freedom upper 16 inch Geissele SSA-E Primary arms 3-18 acss Larue lt-104 Magpie bipod BCM charging handle B5 sopmod Anderson lower Form 1 suppressor Haven’t had a single problem Then my mini recce underneath |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 4:27:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CSAKing]
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First try at this Recce thing am I doing it right? -Aero M4E1 upper and lower -Aero Atlas-R one 15” rail -Rainier Ultramatch Heavy 16” barrel with intermediate gas -Badger 1.93 condition one mount -razor 1-6 |
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Posted: 2/12/2020 5:53:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2020 6:15:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2020 3:02:58 PM EDT
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I can't remember if I posted my single Recce style rifle in this thread or not... and I couldn't find it when I looked at the last 5-6 pages so here goes... I love this rifle!
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Posted: 2/23/2020 10:35:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MidwestRookie]
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Bump so I can find it later today lol
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Posted: 2/23/2020 7:02:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MidwestRookie]
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Here's the main build I've been working on finishing up for the past few months. Still need a couple things like an M-lok rail section (gonna go KAC or Arisaka low-pro) and the LaRue mount is only a placeholder for a Badger C1 1.70 mount. However, it's basically finished other than that.
This all started when I saw Geno selling an SR15 barrel and BCG in the EE so that's the heart of this build. John at Retro Arm Works did a bomb proof install of a Geissele gas block and put the entire upper together for me. Can't recommend his work enough! Upper: Hodge receiver Hodge 13.5" Pinchlock rail KAC 16" SR15 E3 barrel & BCG KAC stubby vfg by @white-rhyno Geissele GB Geissele ACH VG6 Epsilon Burris RT-6 1-6x24 in a LaRue LT204 CAN mount. Lower: LMT MARS receiver Geissele SD3G Badger C1 ambi safety KAC trigger guard BAD takedown pins PWS buffer tube and ratchet lock endplate JP polished spring and factory SR15 carbine buffer Govt overrun SOPMOD stock 
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Posted: 2/23/2020 7:40:44 PM EDT
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Looking to make a recce build. I have my optic already but need to buy the upper. Any suggestions on what to get? Was thinking 14.5 pinned and welded or 16in. Wanted to stay around $400 but I have no clue where to start.
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:19:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: USNGM2]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crimsonraider23:
Looking to make a recce build. I have my optic already but need to buy the upper. Any suggestions on what to get? Was thinking 14.5 pinned and welded or 16in. Wanted to stay around $400 but I have no clue where to start. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 10:28:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MS556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USNGM2:
A barrel for 400 or a complete upper? You'd be hard pressed to find a quality upper for a recce application under 400. Even the PSA 14.7" uppers are around that but sans BCG and CH. If you mean just a barrel for 400ish go to Compass Lake Engineering and pick between a Criterion, Douglas, Krieger, or Bartlein Recon barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USNGM2:
Originally Posted By crimsonraider23:
Looking to make a recce build. I have my optic already but need to buy the upper. Any suggestions on what to get? Was thinking 14.5 pinned and welded or 16in. Wanted to stay around $400 but I have no clue where to start. It ain’t cheap. Direct from Lilja (they don’t sell through vendors or distributors), $500 plus shipping. You get what you pay for. 
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Posted: 2/25/2020 5:07:34 PM EDT
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Maybe consider a barrel from Bison Armory for a budget minded upper?
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Posted: 2/25/2020 11:42:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MS556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
Maybe consider a barrel from Bison Armory for a budget minded upper? Cheers The heavy under the gas block design is to make the barrel more rigid and to resist heat changing point of impact, while avoiding a heavier HBAR profile forward of the gas block where it add weight but does not improve accuracy. It would cost little more for Bison to profile the barrel correctly. It would add 3-4 ounces. I realize you can’t see the part of the barrel under the rail, but for consistent, repeatable accuracy, cold or hot, it matters. |
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Posted: 2/26/2020 12:05:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MS556: Don't know how their 16" Recon barrel shoots, but it's profile is all wrong. It's only .750" or so under the handguard rather than being stiff and heavy there. A Recce barrel is more like very robust .950" for the first 3" then a full .850" to the gas block then a more normal .750" to the step or .725" from the gas block to the muzzle, depending on the suppressor attachment method. The heavy under the gas block design is to make the barrel more rigid and to resist heat changing point of impact, while avoiding a heavier HBAR profile forward of the gas block where it add weight but does not improve accuracy. It would cost little more for Bison to profile the barrel correctly. It would add 3-4 ounces. I realize you can't see the part of the barrel under the rail, but for consistent, repeatable accuracy, cold or hot, it matters. -bisons 16" SPR is jusr fine, even for hanging an AEM5 off the end. And its $200 and 1/7. If u pay $400 for a barrel ur a rich rool. My 16" mod H woa was $200, my 16" mod H bison was $200 (pic below), and my 224v 20" bison was $275 WITH a bolt. All moa or better. $200 barrel, $99 aero upper, $100 carpenter bcg, and a bcm 12" quad rail/mlok rail for $175.....$600 done deal, all good quality parts. Yall need to rethink things. -its def not govt profile. This is their SPR contour: 
Same barrel: 
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Posted: 2/26/2020 11:54:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MS556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: -This isnt the SEAL recce clone thread, this is the fun inspired recce style thread :) -bisons 16" SPR is jusr fine, even for hanging an AEM5 off the end. And its $200 and 1/7. If u pay $400 for a barrel ur a rich rool. My 16" mod H woa was $200, my 16" mod H bison was $200 (pic below), and my 224v 20" bison was $275 WITH a bolt. All moa or better. $200 barrel, $99 aero upper, $100 carpenter bcg, and a bcm 12" quad rail/mlok rail for $175.....$600 done deal, all good quality parts. Yall need to rethink things. -its def not govt profile. This is their SPR contour: https://i.postimg.cc/tgNPDqmY/IMG-20200104-230828674-HDR.jpg Same barrel: https://i.postimg.cc/4NcQxPVb/IMG-20200220-154907-215.jpg My “Recce style” build is far from clone correct. See below. About the only part of the build that is correct is the barrel and KAC M4QD flash hider. All else is a modernizing of the concept. But, for a manufacturer to call a barrel a Recce is false advertising if they don’t profile it with the distinctive heavy under the handguard contour as a part of the process. It costs nothing to get that right whether it is a $200 barrel or $500 one. It’s not a matter of price. They were just lazy. The profile is a large part of the reason the point of impact remains stable and groups don’t open up whether the shot is fired from a cold barrel or after several magazines fired rather quickly. I’m not rich. I did want Recce performance and was willing to save up to get it. 
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Posted: 2/29/2020 5:29:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
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PRIMARY ARMS $475 1-4 ACCUPOWERS on clearance!
If u want good glass for a recce, id suggest it! MIL/MOA/BDC options in red and green, this weekend only. My green MOA will be here thursday.....now i need a mount! |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 7:34:45 PM EDT
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16 BA Hanson Barrel
Spikes r2 comp Mcmr13 TOOLCRAFT BCG BCM LPK VORTEX VIPER HS 1-4 by far my favorite setup, scope is great for my aging eyes  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 10:12:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NCState85]
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My lightweight BCM Recce build.
Rifle was a BCM Recce 16 cut down to 14.7" with the muzzle device P&W'd. Furniture & handguard are BCM except for the Magpul AFG. Weapon light is a Streamlight ProTac. Vortex Razor 1-6 in a Scalarworks LEAP mount. Probably one of my favorite builds, and the lightweight barrel and handguard from BCM really helps to offset the weight of the LPVO, so in true recce fashion, it wouldn't be difficult to carry this for long distances. Sorry for the potato-quality pics 
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Posted: 2/29/2020 10:31:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCState85:
My lightweight BCM Recce build. Rifle was a BCM Recce 16 cut down to 14.7" with the muzzle device P&W'd. Furniture & handguard are BCM except for the Magpul AFG. Weapon light is a Streamlight ProTac. Vortex Razor 1-6 in a Scalarworks LEAP mount. Probably one of my favorite builds, and the lightweight barrel and handguard from BCM really helps to offset the weight of the LPVO, so in true recce fashion, it wouldn't be difficult to carry this for long distances. Sorry for the potato-quality pics https://i.imgur.com/Q0VdeG7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ussl0J7.jpg |
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Posted: 2/29/2020 10:37:38 PM EDT
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Thanks, it really does look better IRL, haha. Pictures always make the green look brighter than it is, but I dusted it with Earth Brown to take the brightness off so it's much more subdued when my iPhone isn't taking pics reminiscent of 2006.
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Posted: 2/29/2020 10:41:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/7/2020 9:37:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/7/2020 9:42:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: grizzlygunner999]
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Posted: 3/8/2020 5:42:49 PM EDT
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Finally back to RECCE!!!!
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Posted: 3/9/2020 12:22:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/12/2020 6:48:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sabre675]
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Vortex GEN3, 1-10, mil/mil. I’ve no previous experience with Vortex Optics. This particular optic checks a lot of boxes for my 7.62 MLOK MWS, otherwise I’m usually Leupy leaning. First impression... it feels very robust. Glass isn’t as good as my Leupold MK8, which is exceptional. Definitely daylight bright. Magnification at 10X doesn’t seem like a significant difference compared to my MK8 1-8, but I’ve yet to side by side compare. Eye relief is significant. It’s definitely a true 1x. Definitely daylight bright. Horus style reticle is decent, but doughnut crosshair could go imho. It’s plain looking. I hate the purple-ish, burnt bronze color. I would personally prefer uncapped turrets. The dials aren’t the most pleasurable feeling, they feel lunky compared to my MK8. The magnification dial is smooth and on point, as is the illumination system. The lens caps are shit for a $2K optic. I need to decide on the mount, possibly spend some time with it to see if it’s truly what I want....
ETA: I just got my MK8 1-8 CQBSS H27d out for side by side comparison. The Glass clarity/image clarity on the MK8 is much better. On 8 power, the images in the 1-8 actually look closer, I think this is just do to image clarity, but I prefer the Leupold quite a bit more. The Vortex is much better on 1x with illumination, to be used as a red dot, however, clarity still goes to the Leupold. Overall it still feels like a fine optic for the money and the glass is good, but not great. I’m not sure how it would compare to a nightforce ATACR 1-8, but if the nightforce has better glass, I suspect my opinion would be the same. I would personally like to see someone’s opinion of a first hand comparison between a MK6 1-6 and the Vortex GEN3 1-10 as to glass quality. 
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Posted: 3/13/2020 12:51:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide:
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Posted: 3/13/2020 3:55:25 PM EDT
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Something is missing.... |
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Posted: 3/13/2020 11:26:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2020 10:46:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/14/2020 11:13:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
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Posted: 3/19/2020 11:11:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/20/2020 10:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grizzlygunner999: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463612/20200307_194021_jpg-1306534.JPGharris 9-12 Wish I went with a 15 HG mlok mount is close to gas block Very nice! 13" handguard and 16" barrel? |
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Posted: 3/20/2020 11:08:27 PM EDT
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You guys know if an MCMR will clear that noveske recon barrel? Ohhhh asking for a friend?
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Posted: 3/22/2020 2:55:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jayberd4]
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I just ordered a BCM RECCE-16 KMR-A Carbine. I'm as giddy as a school girl. I can't wait for it to get here. I'll probably pick up some Troy back up sights for it. Not sure what else I may do to it...maybe nothing.
 . If I can figure out how to post pictures, I’ll post a pic when I pick it up.
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Posted: 3/22/2020 4:50:31 PM EDT
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DD V7LW
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Posted: 3/22/2020 6:11:56 PM EDT
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Brothers
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Posted: 3/26/2020 9:41:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySpecs on these? |
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Posted: 3/27/2020 7:34:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: What Pistol Grip is that, and who makes it? Almost looks like a custom BCM PG. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: Originally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/137230/IMG_20200229_164800_jpg-1297051.JPG What Pistol Grip is that, and who makes it? Almost looks like a custom BCM PG. Link |
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