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Originally Posted By Twitchy:
I mocked it up and threaded the can on and got 7 twists with this setup. I didn't shoot it though. Just messing around until I could figure a proper spacer, but if he's going to make a proper/spaced collar, I may go that route. The second gas block measures 1" (PRI). https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25438680_10156014054568035_4971799013232091630_o.jpg?oh=4feaf03b6fff0f291a94c5a46fc4aa33&oe=5AC36C70 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Hopefully he keeps the measurements. I'll buy one as well. While I tried the two gas block thing for fitment, I didn't shoot it that way. I got 7 revolutions of the can, so whatever it comes out to is perfect. The second gas block measures 1" (PRI). https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/25438680_10156014054568035_4971799013232091630_o.jpg?oh=4feaf03b6fff0f291a94c5a46fc4aa33&oe=5AC36C70 2.625 - Thread shoulder to step 3.24 - Bare muzzle to step, which makes the threads 0.62. Edit - that's the same (pri) gas block I'm running on mine. It works perfectly with the Ras. The badger I had before was borderline tight under the rail. |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: Yeah, if you email him he said he can do custom collars, he'll need those two measurements off your barrel. I'm not sure how much Noveske varies, I don't imagine they do but here's what I got for mine. 2.625 - Thread shoulder to step 3.24 - Bare muzzle to step, which makes the threads 0.62. Edit - that's the same (pri) gas block I'm running on mine. It works perfectly with the Ras. The badger I had before was borderline tight under the rail. View Quote Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. |
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Originally Posted By Twitchy:
I'll email him. The first block is the Noveske block that came with the barrel. Barrel/Block/Tube combo back whenever I bought it. Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Originally Posted By Dobs013: Yeah, if you email him he said he can do custom collars, he'll need those two measurements off your barrel. I'm not sure how much Noveske varies, I don't imagine they do but here's what I got for mine. 2.625 - Thread shoulder to step 3.24 - Bare muzzle to step, which makes the threads 0.62. Edit - that's the same (pri) gas block I'm running on mine. It works perfectly with the Ras. The badger I had before was borderline tight under the rail. Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. |
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Originally Posted By Twitchy:
I'll email him. The first block is the Noveske block that came with the barrel. Barrel/Block/Tube combo back whenever I bought it. Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Originally Posted By Dobs013: Yeah, if you email him he said he can do custom collars, he'll need those two measurements off your barrel. I'm not sure how much Noveske varies, I don't imagine they do but here's what I got for mine. 2.625 - Thread shoulder to step 3.24 - Bare muzzle to step, which makes the threads 0.62. Edit - that's the same (pri) gas block I'm running on mine. It works perfectly with the Ras. The badger I had before was borderline tight under the rail. Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. |
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Originally Posted By Steinhatchee:
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
I just goat an email from Ron Allen about 30 mins ago and he made my collar this morning. I may have it in hand sooner than expected. I'll post pics up when I get it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Originally Posted By Dobs013: Yeah, if you email him he said he can do custom collars, he'll need those two measurements off your barrel. I'm not sure how much Noveske varies, I don't imagine they do but here's what I got for mine. 2.625 - Thread shoulder to step 3.24 - Bare muzzle to step, which makes the threads 0.62. Edit - that's the same (pri) gas block I'm running on mine. It works perfectly with the Ras. The badger I had before was borderline tight under the rail. Does your barrel have a cut out for the block to be pinned in place? Mine has that and the set screws. |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Hell. Yes. View Quote Originally Posted By prskiller: Everything in that pic View Quote Originally Posted By sommere54: Everything in this pic is awesome. Well done. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
$17XX for the NX8 and $27XX for the ATACR. Cool optics but I like my larger exit pupil and more forgiving eye box. When a 1-10x42 type optic finally hits the market I’ll be game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By chenault: It's on their website. It will take a lot to make me switch from my Burris, especially if they price this thing $2000 plus |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Jury is still out on price. I haven't gotten the final bill yet, I'll let you know when I find out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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@Twitchy
I just got the invoice from Allen Engineering. $135 for the whole kit, custom collar, brake and thread protector with shim kit. 2 day turn around with a price that's less than most retailers and a great guy all-round. Can't ask for more |
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Originally Posted By aaron580:
So bought a NF unmount just because and look what ended up on the Reece.... guess I'm a trend follower now nice to have some eye relief without having to extend the stock. https://i.imgur.com/iPUxoJC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8t86d7H.jpg View Quote Sold the NF. Put a FFP vortex on. I really am impressed by this thing. A lot of bang for your buck. Got the KAC lower assembled too. Debating on spraying it now that it’s in its final state. |
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I’m having to switch my NF out for a badger.
The NF are 20moa I’m bottomed out on the MR/T 5.5mils high at 25m, can’t zero the gun. |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Those scopes look so much better when they are in front of the charging handle like that! Sold the NF. Put a FFP vortex on. I really am impressed by this thing. A lot of bang for your buck. Got the KAC lower assembled too. https://i.imgur.com/6Ogn9Jn.jpg Debating on spraying it now that it's in its final state. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JJREA: Yeah, I'm pretty sure ARfcom needs to organize a support group for you painters that can't not paint. There should be pamphlets like: The Negative Health Affects of Sniffing Krylon. And: Your Hands: a Direct Link to Your Bloodstream. And: Keep Your Air Clean; Your Lungs Will Take Care of You. That type of stuff........... http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/cmutka/RecceRifle.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Figure I'd share with you guys. I set out to build a MIL RECCE, didn't want to go full on clone, but wanted something close. I've shared the "finished" product with you guys a few times. The original idea was to run an ARMS #36 rail and ARMS #22's but the rings were out of stock after I ordered so I changed to a NightForce 20moa Unimount (#A192) 1.375" high. Took it to the range this past weekend and couldn't get it zero'd because of my NF mount. I was 5.5 mils high @ 25m'ish and all out of down adjustment in the Leupold 3x9 MR/T. So I ordered a Badger Recon Unimount (#306-317A) 1.54" high Difference in the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_40_56-397128.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_08-397129.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_27-397130.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_45-397131.jpg On the OBJ side the difference is roughly 1/8"ish How we're sitting now. I'll paint it after I shoot it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_16_07_42-397133.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Y'all are probably sick of seeing this thing but screw it. Got some butler creek caps and pulled the can and bipod off. Gonna run a few drills with it on Sunday for fun https://i.imgur.com/ehIlBYL.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Figure I'd share with you guys. I set out to build a MIL RECCE, didn't want to go full on clone, but wanted something close. I've shared the "finished" product with you guys a few times. The original idea was to run an ARMS #36 rail and ARMS #22's but the rings were out of stock after I ordered so I changed to a NightForce 20moa Unimount (#A192) 1.375" high. Took it to the range this past weekend and couldn't get it zero'd because of my NF mount. I was 5.5 mils high @ 25m'ish and all out of down adjustment in the Leupold 3x9 MR/T. So I ordered a Badger Recon Unimount (#306-317A) 1.54" high Difference in the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_40_56-397128.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_08-397129.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_27-397130.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_45-397131.jpg On the OBJ side the difference is roughly 1/8"ish How we're sitting now. I'll paint it after I shoot it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_16_07_42-397133.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Figure I'd share with you guys. I set out to build a MIL RECCE, didn't want to go full on clone, but wanted something close. I've shared the "finished" product with you guys a few times. The original idea was to run an ARMS #36 rail and ARMS #22's but the rings were out of stock after I ordered so I changed to a NightForce 20moa Unimount (#A192) 1.375" high. Took it to the range this past weekend and couldn't get it zero'd because of my NF mount. I was 5.5 mils high @ 25m'ish and all out of down adjustment in the Leupold 3x9 MR/T. So I ordered a Badger Recon Unimount (#306-317A) 1.54" high Difference in the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_40_56-397128.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_08-397129.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_27-397130.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_45-397131.jpg On the OBJ side the difference is roughly 1/8"ish How we're sitting now. I'll paint it after I shoot it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_16_07_42-397133.jpg View Quote Eyekahn, no need to apologize about posting that one. Looks real nice. |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Figure I'd share with you guys. I set out to build a MIL RECCE, didn't want to go full on clone, but wanted something close. I've shared the "finished" product with you guys a few times. The original idea was to run an ARMS #36 rail and ARMS #22's but the rings were out of stock after I ordered so I changed to a NightForce 20moa Unimount (#A192) 1.375" high. Took it to the range this past weekend and couldn't get it zero'd because of my NF mount. I was 5.5 mils high @ 25m'ish and all out of down adjustment in the Leupold 3x9 MR/T. So I ordered a Badger Recon Unimount (#306-317A) 1.54" high Difference in the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_40_56-397128.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_08-397129.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_27-397130.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_45-397131.jpg On the OBJ side the difference is roughly 1/8"ish How we're sitting now. I'll paint it after I shoot it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_16_07_42-397133.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
This doesn't make sense. Something is wrong with your scope or you are not adjusting it correctly. No reason you shouldn't be able use a 20moa mount. I have owned a bunch of Mk4 scopes and neaver ran into that problem with any canted mount. Although I've never used a 25m zero with a magnified optic and don't know why anyone would. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By Infidel4life11:
Figure I'd share with you guys. I set out to build a MIL RECCE, didn't want to go full on clone, but wanted something close. I've shared the "finished" product with you guys a few times. The original idea was to run an ARMS #36 rail and ARMS #22's but the rings were out of stock after I ordered so I changed to a NightForce 20moa Unimount (#A192) 1.375" high. Took it to the range this past weekend and couldn't get it zero'd because of my NF mount. I was 5.5 mils high @ 25m'ish and all out of down adjustment in the Leupold 3x9 MR/T. So I ordered a Badger Recon Unimount (#306-317A) 1.54" high Difference in the two. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_40_56-397128.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_08-397129.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_27-397130.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_15_41_45-397131.jpg On the OBJ side the difference is roughly 1/8"ish How we're sitting now. I'll paint it after I shoot it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/325471/2017-12-21_16_07_42-397133.jpg 2. I use a 25/100 correction target to get close then confirm and fine tune at 100. 3. Seen it a few times before, a mount fixed the issue, or an upper receiver had to be replaced. 4. I adjusted the scope up 20moa at the range the distance the reticle traveled from my original wanted POI to the actual POI was pretty close to 20 MOA. It was easier to read the reticle which showed my 5.5ish mils which is why I mentioned I was 5.5 mils high. |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: 1. The MR/T full elevation range is less than one full turn. There is only so much adjustment in this model. It is nothing like the other Mk4 LR/T scopes. 2. I use a 25/100 correction target to get close then confirm and fine tune at 100. 3. Seen it a few times before, a mount fixed the issue, or an upper receiver had to be replaced. 4. I adjusted the scope up 20moa at the range the distance the reticle traveled from my original wanted POI to the actual POI was pretty close to 20 MOA. It was easier to read the reticle which showed my 5.5ish mils which is why I mentioned I was 5.5 mils high. View Quote I had a 3-9x in a KAC mount with 19moa(I think) of elevation and it worked fine on multiple rifles. You may want to reach out to Leupold. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
It's just a normal 3-9x36 right? It should have 90moa of adjustment the 3.5-10x40 has 65moa. I had a 3-9x in a KAC mount with 19moa(I think) of elevation and it worked fine on multiple rifles. You may want to reach out to Leupold. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: 1. The MR/T full elevation range is less than one full turn. There is only so much adjustment in this model. It is nothing like the other Mk4 LR/T scopes. 2. I use a 25/100 correction target to get close then confirm and fine tune at 100. 3. Seen it a few times before, a mount fixed the issue, or an upper receiver had to be replaced. 4. I adjusted the scope up 20moa at the range the distance the reticle traveled from my original wanted POI to the actual POI was pretty close to 20 MOA. It was easier to read the reticle which showed my 5.5ish mils which is why I mentioned I was 5.5 mils high. I had a 3-9x in a KAC mount with 19moa(I think) of elevation and it worked fine on multiple rifles. You may want to reach out to Leupold. You are correct newer commercially available MR/Ts have 90” of adjustment at 100 per Leopold’s Specifications. ETA: My Bad I might not be giving you enough info. The knob only allows for 55moa of adjustment. My total adjustment is set to zero at 25moa from max downward adjustment. The real issue here is the upper receiver coupled with the 20moa mount. If I would have put the NF mount and scope on another AR (IE: My BCM or Colt) I probably would have had enough turret adjustment to zero. I was roughly 5" high POI from POA which is roughly 20moa. Now with the 0moa Badger I should be within 1moa of where I want to be at a 100. |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013: You suck for getting your parts in first, the wait for my brake and collar is killing me. The race is on to see who gets the aem5 first....after your recent acquisitions I got a good shot View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: Mine has M3 knobs with and a Cam calibrated for 223/556 62gr 1MOA adjustments MilDot Military model. The knob and cam are basically a BDC with marks for 100yds, 200yds, 300yds, 400yds, 500yds, 600yds, 700yds and 800yds. It is designed specifically to use its entire elevation range in one turn so that the shooter can’t get confused. Range the distance, turn the knob to the distance, shoot bad person from 100-800yds was the idea behind it. You are correct newer commercially available MR/Ts have 90” of adjustment at 100 per Leopold’s Specifications. ETA: My Bad I might not be giving you enough info. The knob only allows for 55moa of adjustment. My total adjustment is set to zero at 25moa from max downward adjustment. The real issue here is the upper receiver coupled with the 20moa mount. If I would have put the NF mount and scope on another AR (IE: My BCM or Colt) I probably would have had enough turret adjustment to zero. I was roughly 5" high POI from POA which is roughly 20moa. Now with the 0moa Badger I should be within 1moa of where I want to be at a 100. View Quote All the m3 turrets are mechanically the same, it doesn't matter what BDC info is engraved on it. All 2.5-8x and 3-9x use the same erector assembly with 90moa of adjustment to the best of my knowledge. I know the TS-30 does. Are you saying you zero the scope so you can dial down 25moa? If so why? Even if you are shooting off a cliff or zeroed at sea level and then find yourself on top of Everest it's unnecessary. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
All the m3 turrets are mechanically the same, it doesn't matter what BDC info is engraved on it. All 2.5-8x and 3-9x use the same erector assembly with 90moa of adjustment to the best of my knowledge. I know the TS-30 does. Are you saying you zero the scope so you can dial down 25moa? If so why? Even if you are shooting off a cliff or zeroed at sea level and then find yourself on top of Everest it's unnecessary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By Infidel4life11: Mine has M3 knobs with and a Cam calibrated for 223/556 62gr 1MOA adjustments MilDot Military model. The knob and cam are basically a BDC with marks for 100yds, 200yds, 300yds, 400yds, 500yds, 600yds, 700yds and 800yds. It is designed specifically to use its entire elevation range in one turn so that the shooter can’t get confused. Range the distance, turn the knob to the distance, shoot bad person from 100-800yds was the idea behind it. You are correct newer commercially available MR/Ts have 90” of adjustment at 100 per Leopold’s Specifications. ETA: My Bad I might not be giving you enough info. The knob only allows for 55moa of adjustment. My total adjustment is set to zero at 25moa from max downward adjustment. The real issue here is the upper receiver coupled with the 20moa mount. If I would have put the NF mount and scope on another AR (IE: My BCM or Colt) I probably would have had enough turret adjustment to zero. I was roughly 5" high POI from POA which is roughly 20moa. Now with the 0moa Badger I should be within 1moa of where I want to be at a 100. All the m3 turrets are mechanically the same, it doesn't matter what BDC info is engraved on it. All 2.5-8x and 3-9x use the same erector assembly with 90moa of adjustment to the best of my knowledge. I know the TS-30 does. Are you saying you zero the scope so you can dial down 25moa? If so why? Even if you are shooting off a cliff or zeroed at sea level and then find yourself on top of Everest it's unnecessary. Due to where I was impacting I didn't believe the 25ish MOA was enough to get to a 100yd Zero and I didn't want to be at the bottom of the total adjustment range. Now that I have a 0MOA mount I should roughly be impacting right where I want to be for a 100yd Zero while my turret is sitting on (0). |
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I asked if you had a normal 3-9x and you said it was the "military model" which is the TS-30.
I understand how the zero stop feature works. Your post made it sound like you were zeroing it with the ability to dial down 25moa. Look at the manual and follow the zeroing procedure. If that doesn't work there is something wrong with the scope or your upper is way out of spec. A working MR/T of any flavor should have no issue with a 20moa mount. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
I asked if you had a normal 3-9x and you said it was the "military model" which is the TS-30. I understand how the zero stop feature works. Your post made it sound like you were zeroing it with the ability to dial down 25moa. Look at the manual and follow the zeroing procedure. If that doesn't work there is something wrong with the scope or your upper is way out of spec. A working MR/T of any flavor should have no issue with a 20moa mount. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg View Quote Originally Posted By chenault: Yea, that's super hot. View Quote Originally Posted By RTUtah:
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Thank you sir! I'm debating on what colors, I'm leaning heavily towards snow camo View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Twitchy:
How? Mine has no steps for anything to index on. Did yours come with a step? When you mentioned AE was making a collar, I assume you meant one that butted up against the gas block. I'm so confused, cold and confused. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Twitchy:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Xmas came early! Shout out to Ron Allen for this setup! Even broke out the deployment blanket https://i.imgur.com/bZYmfXx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lnhvI3g.jpg |
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Sent you an IM with the link to the barrel I’m using. Don’t want to post outside links. |
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