Originally Posted By sq40:
Zendaya is almost playing Mary Jane from Spiderman again. Aloof, arrogant, detached.

Originally Posted By elcope:

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Originally Posted By CB1:
late to the party, really enjoyed it.
the worm riding was awesome.

Originally Posted By dorobuta:



I wonder how they get off of the worm without dying....and if they do survive, how long do they lay motionless in the sand before trying to get up without attracting a worm?

Originally Posted By Snozberry:
Just watched Dune pt2 on IMAX and came away from it with mixed feelings.

On one hand there is no questioning the technical aspects of the movie. Cinematography, special effects, soundtrack and the acting are all top notch. If this movie doesn't recieve an aware for that alone, it will be a travesty. On the other, it's the editing and plot choices that give this movie something less than four stars. Some you'll notice and others you won't unless you have the book(s) somewhere in your garage and have seen the 80s movie a number of times.

**Spoilers**

The first, most jarring aspect of the movie is the chemistery between the main characters of Zendaya (Chani) and Chalamet (Paul). Frankly it's shit, primarily due to Zendaya's uncharismatic passive-aggressive attitude toward her relationship with Paul, and it's only made worse with the plot choice to have her factionalized into the anti-white man colonizer camp as opposed to supporting her mate as the would-be messiah. Yes, the more I think on the matter, the more I really do believe that this was a girl-power concession, because the ending radically changes the arc of the canon material. The 80s Chani wasn't a jilteted lover. She was a partner in crime iirc and fully bought into Paul's messiah position as the plot progressed. Moreover, she knew and was okay with the fact that she was always Pauls real lover while the Empress was a paper concubine. I suspected the Zendaya/Chalamet pairing would be shit in the first movie but was hoping they could turn that around. Nope, she's still completely unlikable here as well.

She's no Sean Young in her prime, that's for sure.

Now don't get me wrong-- The 80s material doesn't age well, but the more I compared the two, the more I began to wonder what the hell was Dune Pt2 doing with that 2 hours and 46 minutes of run time versus the 80s movie that clocking in 2:17? For all it's expositional flaws, the 80s movie was paced far better than Pt2 and managed its plot material much better in my opinion. And lets be clear-- The fault specifically lies with Pt2. Pt1 was damn near a master piece. The fall of house Atraties was a masterwork on the topic. The poltical tug of war between the houses, throne, spice guild and sisterhood could have used a bit more attention, but overall, it was great stuff. Part 2 meander needlessly for far too long in the desert. Whereas the 80s material comfortably captured Pauls doubt, installation as a fremin and rise to messiah in the space of two hours, Pt2 squandered its time to the point where some very obvious editing had to be done so that they could squeeze Pauls sudden rise to messiah and sacking of the emperor in a half hour. Compared to the awesomeness of the fall of house atraties, the counter offensive against the emperor felt far less epic and absolutely sandwiched in for run time. I guranatee they could have mined that half hour by cutting out the various scenes of people camping in the desert over and over.

And dem nuclear missiles. LOL.

On the pacing, the decision not to have Aliyah born in this timeframe didn't strike me as bad as I though it as going to be. Originally, having the slightly crazy child kill off baron harkonnen with her super powers was a great bit of fun in the source material and helped illustrate Pauls time amongst the fremin, but on the other, watching mom just mumble to herself and make plans with the girl in her womb was just as wtf diabolical. That said, it means movie one and two happened inside 8 months, whereas the 80s material takes at least three years to get Paul to be a messiah. On that same note, somebody else already noted that Paul seems like a normal person with a cult following. Aside from the voice, there was no Messiah moment or something indicating he was THE ONE. "Oh I know shit about your family" isn't enough IMO. In the 80s material, he made it RAIN. He split Fey open with his voice. The pacing of his rise to sainthood was a constant curve with examples shown, not a sudden, vertical wall of plot to get him there. This Paul seems... Average.

In the end, i'm left conflicted. Part 1 seemed to use its long run time to greater effect while part 2 squandered it on unimportant scenes, resulting in the obvious need for editing down in time. The problem was they chose absolutely the wrong things to trim. Maybe when viewed ogther the whole will make up for the sum of its parts- especially a directors cut version -but that won't fix Zendaya's wholely unlikeable personality and the plot choices they made with her.

Originally Posted By Fushaw:

They wait for the worms to get tired and start "sulking" and then hop off. The worm eventually gains its energy back and burrows down back in the sand.

Originally Posted By Jason280:
So, how do they know how far the worms will go in the first place...or even which direction?

Originally Posted By Hesperus:


I think the hooks they use tell the worms to go left or right.

That said even if such a thing could exist. I doubt it. If you were riding it like it is shown in the movies then it would probably just submerge. I don't see much reason for the worms to do what any human would tell them. Barring some sort of telepathy. Or the humans having something the worms want.

Originally Posted By Hesperus:


I think the hooks they use tell the worms to go left or right.

That said even if such a thing could exist. I doubt it. If you were riding it like it is shown in the movies then it would probably just submerge. I don't see much reason for the worms to do what any human would tell them. Barring some sort of telepathy. Or the humans having something the worms want.

Originally Posted By JLH3:
I'll say it again. I almost feel sorry for Zendaya.  She played Chani exactly the way Villeneuve wanted her to and she's getting killed for it.  

Originally Posted By R_S:
Some notable commentary about the new Dune movies:

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https://rumble.com/v4jts80-dune-crimson-red-pills-rejected-by-hollywood.html

Originally Posted By Sajer:
Saw it Sunday and enjoyed it.

Originally Posted By MRW:
the hooks lift the segment of the worm apart from the segment underneath it, which allows sand to get in a tender area.  The worm rolls over to put this part straight up in the air to get the sand out, or at least not drive more in. the worm will not dive under with a "flap" open to sand, and will move rapidly along the surface to "air it out", much like an oyster does not like grit inside its shell. With various hooks and techniques, you can steer them around.

super beat

Originally Posted By FishKepr:
Just seated for IMAX.  I made the mistake of booking the lower section.  

Originally Posted By eesmith:

Enjoy.

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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Princess Irulan>Chani

Originally Posted By Fushaw:
I'm late because I was on vacation but just got back from the movie.

Am I the only one who was a little disappointed when the 2nd movie didn't end with the quote from the very end of the first book?

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Originally Posted By Muad:

Yeah man, you did an awesome job of spelling those points out.

Chani's character almost ruins the movie for me...

Originally Posted By Jason280:


So, how do they know how far the worms will go in the first place...or even which direction?

Originally Posted By cyclone:
Princess Irulan>Chani

Originally Posted By Naffenea:

As others have said, Chani was my least favorite part of the movie. I was also confused that it felt like it happened over a few months instead of 4ish years.

I was also expecting Paul to start saying "I dun wan it. She's my queen."

I was hoping for a LOTR ROTK, but..

Still, it was a very good movie.

Originally Posted By JLH3:

I'll say it again. I almost feel sorry for Zendaya.  She played Chani exactly the way Villeneuve wanted her to and she's getting killed for it.  Villeneuve decided rather than have Paul's self-doubts expressed through internal monologue, they would be verbalized by Chani.  

And I can see why.  Internal monologues always suck.  But this turns Chani into a harping bitch.  Could Zendaya played a Chani that was more positive and closer to the book?   We'll never know.