Originally Posted By Hesperus:


I think the hooks they use tell the worms to go left or right.

That said even if such a thing could exist. I doubt it. If you were riding it like it is shown in the movies then it would probably just submerge. I don't see much reason for the worms to do what any human would tell them. Barring some sort of telepathy. Or the humans having something the worms want.

Originally Posted By Snozberry:

By exposing the sensitive inner membrain of the worm, it remains upright and surfaced to avoid sand irritants per the source material.  This is how you steer as well, though you have to infer A LOT from this movie without the benefit of side notes. I also see it got answered fove times now, lol.

That said, i think they went a little too grandiose with the visuals. It looks like a high casulty method of transport if taken at face value and both my wife and i were wonder how the fuck they got jessicas basket up there. Riding look goddamn awesome as long as you threw away the logistics. 80s dune worms disturbed the sand much less and was vastly more feasible as transport.

Originally Posted By FishKepr:
Just seated for IMAX.  I made the mistake of booking the lower section.  

Originally Posted By Snozberry:
Just watched Dune pt2 on IMAX and came away from it with mixed feelings.

On one hand there is no questioning the technical aspects of the movie. Cinematography, special effects, soundtrack and the acting are all top notch. If this movie doesn't recieve an aware for that alone, it will be a travesty. On the other, it's the editing and plot choices that give this movie something less than four stars. Some you'll notice and others you won't unless you have the book(s) somewhere in your garage and have seen the 80s movie a number of times.

**Spoilers**

The first, most jarring aspect of the movie is the chemistery between the main characters of Zendaya (Chani) and Chalamet (Paul). Frankly it's shit, primarily due to Zendaya's uncharismatic passive-aggressive attitude toward her relationship with Paul, and it's only made worse with the plot choice to have her factionalized into the anti-white man colonizer camp as opposed to supporting her mate as the would-be messiah. Yes, the more I think on the matter, the more I really do believe that this was a girl-power concession, because the ending radically changes the arc of the canon material. The 80s Chani wasn't a jilteted lover. She was a partner in crime iirc and fully bought into Paul's messiah position as the plot progressed. Moreover, she knew and was okay with the fact that she was always Pauls real lover while the Empress was a paper concubine. I suspected the Zendaya/Chalamet pairing would be shit in the first movie but was hoping they could turn that around. Nope, she's still completely unlikable here as well.

She's no Sean Young in her prime, that's for sure.

Now don't get me wrong-- The 80s material doesn't age well, but the more I compared the two, the more I began to wonder what the hell was Dune Pt2 doing with that 2 hours and 46 minutes of run time versus the 80s movie that clocking in 2:17? For all it's expositional flaws, the 80s movie was paced far better than Pt2 and managed its plot material much better in my opinion. And lets be clear-- The fault specifically lies with Pt2. Pt1 was damn near a master piece. The fall of house Atraties was a masterwork on the topic. The poltical tug of war between the houses, throne, spice guild and sisterhood could have used a bit more attention, but overall, it was great stuff. Part 2 meander needlessly for far too long in the desert. Whereas the 80s material comfortably captured Pauls doubt, installation as a fremin and rise to messiah in the space of two hours, Pt2 squandered its time to the point where some very obvious editing had to be done so that they could squeeze Pauls sudden rise to messiah and sacking of the emperor in a half hour. Compared to the awesomeness of the fall of house atraties, the counter offensive against the emperor felt far less epic and absolutely sandwiched in for run time. I guranatee they could have mined that half hour by cutting out the various scenes of people camping in the desert over and over.

And dem nuclear missiles. LOL.

On the pacing, the decision not to have Aliyah born in this timeframe didn't strike me as bad as I though it as going to be. Originally, having the slightly crazy child kill off baron harkonnen with her super powers was a great bit of fun in the source material and helped illustrate Pauls time amongst the fremin, but on the other, watching mom just mumble to herself and make plans with the girl in her womb was just as wtf diabolical. That said, it means movie one and two happened inside 8 months, whereas the 80s material takes at least three years to get Paul to be a messiah. On that same note, somebody else already noted that Paul seems like a normal person with a cult following. Aside from the voice, there was no Messiah moment or something indicating he was THE ONE. "Oh I know shit about your family" isn't enough IMO. In the 80s material, he made it RAIN. He split Fey open with his voice. The pacing of his rise to sainthood was a constant curve with examples shown, not a sudden, vertical wall of plot to get him there. This Paul seems... Average.

In the end, i'm left conflicted. Part 1 seemed to use its long run time to greater effect while part 2 squandered it on unimportant scenes, resulting in the obvious need for editing down in time. The problem was they chose absolutely the wrong things to trim. Maybe when viewed ogther the whole will make up for the sum of its parts- especially a directors cut version -but that won't fix Zendaya's wholely unlikeable personality and the plot choices they made with her.

Originally Posted By Scalped:
I had to step out briefly. How was Halleck allowed to remain on Arrakis? Something about Halleck making an agreement with someone to mine spice?

Originally Posted By Jacon:
Loved the movie, but Christopher Walken was the wrong cast for emperor .

Originally Posted By gearjammer351:


The way I interpreted that is that he escaped the Harkonnens and was mining spice on the sly and selling it on the black market.

Originally Posted By Jacon:
Loved the movie, but Christopher Walken was the wrong cast for emperor .

Originally Posted By gearjammer351:


The way I interpreted that is that he escaped the Harkonnens and was mining spice on the sly and selling it on the black market.

Originally Posted By ramairthree:


CW is like Samuel L., Jeff Goldblum, etc.

They have a persona, if you want that persona that’s what you get.

If that persona is not right for the role, well, that’s what you get.

Originally Posted By Dumak:
It was okay.

Lots of wasted time of Chani making angry girl faces that could have been used to expand on the lore.

Walken was a horrible emperor.

Part 1 was the better film.

Originally Posted By Scalped:
Is the Ornithopter Harkonnen tech that's just reused on Arrakis? Or are they like the Kalashnikov air asset variant that all Houses use? Technically, this is a Dune Part One question, but after re-watching some clips on Youtube, I'm going down the rabbit hole. Freakin' love how they put door gunners in Part Two.

Originally Posted By Jacon:
Loved the movie, but Christopher Walken was the wrong cast for emperor .

Originally Posted By Sixgunner45:
I hope it isn't 3 years until Part 3.

I started rereading "Dune" again.  Gonna have to read the other "dune" books, since I've only read the original.

Originally Posted By Prae:
Better yet maybe Gary Oldman.

Originally Posted By Jacon:
Loved the movie, but Christopher Walken was the wrong cast for emperor.

Originally Posted By Wineraner:


His homeworld, where his palace is, and where he gets his Sardaukar, is Salusa Secundus, right? And where he toddles off into exile with Count Fenring at the end of the book.  Kind of glad they trimmed his character from the movie, though it gives evidence for how seriously everyone involved with the breeding program took the work.

Not that the book really goes into detail about any conversations Irulan has with him, that aren't in the epigram/diary entries that lead off each chapter.

Lastly, what's with the Redditor-like tone?  Everything OK?