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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:19:47 PM EDT
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(threat comes at about 6:50) I dont know if i feel comfortable with people like this representing the constitution. I've been AFK, and away from arfcom for a while because I've been focused on real world 1A and 2A activism (and grad school). Im all for fighting anarcho commies who beat people up at protests, it's a great time. But one of the core principles of the constitution is free speech and threatening people with violence because of their views isn't what I'm about. These people are basically helping create a reality in which the fascists (literally, the actual fascists) are the only group that actually cares about free speech. This would be less than ideal, to say the least. ETA: Yeah I cant figure out how to make the youtube imbed work. Edited again because apparently I can't type today. 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:24:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:26:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:26:41 PM EDT
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I disapprove of anyone denying someone their rights..period, doesn't matter their political party...
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:30:52 PM EDT
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Real oathkeepers or someone being a douche and saying "yeah BTW I'm Oathkeeper"?
Never can tell these days what's real. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:34:32 PM EDT
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So are they what Oathkeepers are about or they fake?
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:34:34 PM EDT
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Real oathkeepers or someone being a douche and saying "yeah BTW I'm Oathkeeper"? Never can tell these days what's real. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Real oathkeepers or someone being a douche and saying "yeah BTW I'm Oathkeeper"? Never can tell these days what's real. Quoted:
I disapprove of anyone denying someone their rights..period, doesn't matter their political party... |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:35:27 PM EDT
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ETA: Yeah I cant figure out how to make the youtube imbed work. This will fix youtube embedding for you. 
Which reminds me, I gotta update my sig... cos all you have to do these days is embed the URL between the youtube /youtube brackets |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:41:42 PM EDT
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Somebody on another board told me that was the actual leader of the org, but they may have been misinformed. I'm not sure myself. Yeah when I first heard of them, I thought the oath keepers were at least very interesting, maybe potential to be something cool. Then I see things like this I can't get behind. 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:42:17 PM EDT
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Real oathkeepers or someone being a douche and saying "yeah BTW I'm Oathkeeper"? Never can tell these days what's real. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:46:16 PM EDT
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We'll make sure it's real before you write them off. Propaganda isn't just a village in the south of Spain, ya know. 
I think that's the same guy, and it looks like it's from their website. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:47:44 PM EDT
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The word is "constitution"
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:49:00 PM EDT
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So did they predict yet another drone missile strike this time?
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:49:30 PM EDT
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What side am I supposed to be on? It's too confusing to keep track of all these factions.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:56:42 PM EDT
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Two things:
After they bailed on Bundy, they lost all my support. I gave them another try early last year. I attended a training event with a local militia group hosted by OK OathKeepers. Complete cluster fuck. Supposed verified combat vets in leadership positions of the OathKeepers didnt know what the fuck was going on. They had no idea what they were talking about and constantly changed the syllabus of the training event. It felt like they were winging it. Never again. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:02:54 PM EDT
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calling EESmith
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:09:05 PM EDT
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And fuck Trump. Just another neocon globalist.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:13:44 PM EDT
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And fuck Trump. Just another neocon globalist. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:15:35 PM EDT
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What side am I supposed to be on? It's too confusing to keep track of all these factions. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:31:01 PM EDT
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And fuck Trump. Just another neocon globalist. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:42:52 PM EDT
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Punching Right is BAD, m'kay.
But the Oathcreepers were never the brightest bulbs in the box. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:46:10 PM EDT
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I actually came here to ask about the Oathkeepers.
One of my coworkers is a member. Claims that during the riots in Charlotte, NC they protected the cops. 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:47:57 PM EDT
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I disapprove of anyone denying someone their rights..period, doesn't matter their political party... |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:48:30 PM EDT
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What side am I supposed to be on? It's too confusing to keep track of all these factions. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:52:24 PM EDT
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It's gonna get worse. More factions will splinter from all this bullshit. If being a young protester taught me anything it's that all the loons show up at a protest and they all have separate agendas even if they have a common cause. It's part of why I left it in my youth. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:56:11 PM EDT
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calling EESmith 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:57:22 PM EDT
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The one eyed chubscout needs to spend more time on the treadmill and less time running his suck.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 6:57:47 PM EDT
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There seems to be a lot of Concern in this thread...........
From what I took away in the video the person speaking said they welcomed blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Gays and people of all colors, races and religions but they didn't want the National Socialists (Nazis) there as part of their group. OP, Have you seen Kyle? Can you show me how tall he is?..............I bet you can...... |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:02:37 PM EDT
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VIDEO (threat comes at about 6:50) I dont know if i feel comfortable with people like this representing the constitution. I've been AFK, and away from arfcom for a while because I've been focused on real world 1A and 2A activism (and grad school). Im all for fighting anarcho commies who beat people up at protests, it's a great time. But one of the core principles of the constitution is free speech and threatening people with violence because of their views isn't what I'm about. These people are basically helping create a reality in which the fascists (literally, the actual fascists) are the only group that actually cares about free speech. This would be less than ideal, to say the least. Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:07:39 PM EDT
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So are they what Oathkeepers are about or they fake? You and LilPony would be welcome, National Socialists (Nazis) would not be |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:10:46 PM EDT
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I actually came here to ask about the Oathkeepers. One of my coworkers is a member. Claims that during the riots in Charlotte, NC they protected the cops.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:18:34 PM EDT
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Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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VIDEO (threat comes at about 6:50) I dont know if i feel comfortable with people like this representing the constitution. I've been AFK, and away from arfcom for a while because I've been focused on real world 1A and 2A activism (and grad school). Im all for fighting anarcho commies who beat people up at protests, it's a great time. But one of the core principles of the constitution is free speech and threatening people with violence because of their views isn't what I'm about. These people are basically helping create a reality in which the fascists (literally, the actual fascists) are the only group that actually cares about free speech. This would be less than ideal, to say the least. Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:20:21 PM EDT
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I didn't see this happen, but I did hear about it later. I did witness(and film) a Hillary voter being given a chance to speak.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:21:54 PM EDT
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Yeah, I've been trying to verify it myself, and so far this is what I've found: https://www.oathkeepers.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Stewart-Rhodes-iii.jpg I think that's the same guy, and it looks like it's from their website. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We'll make sure it's real before you write them off. Propaganda isn't just a village in the south of Spain, ya know. https://www.oathkeepers.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Stewart-Rhodes-iii.jpg I think that's the same guy, and it looks like it's from their website. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:25:01 PM EDT
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There's black and asian identitarians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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VIDEO (threat comes at about 6:50) I dont know if i feel comfortable with people like this representing the constitution. I've been AFK, and away from arfcom for a while because I've been focused on real world 1A and 2A activism (and grad school). Im all for fighting anarcho commies who beat people up at protests, it's a great time. But one of the core principles of the constitution is free speech and threatening people with violence because of their views isn't what I'm about. These people are basically helping create a reality in which the fascists (literally, the actual fascists) are the only group that actually cares about free speech. This would be less than ideal, to say the least. Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? How are they different from white nationalists? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:25:04 PM EDT
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Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? White Nationalists are a specific type of identitarians. Not all identitarians are white nationalists; black nationalists like NOI, latino nationalists like La Raza, and other types of ethno nationalists, such as Zionists, would all be considered identitarians. As for the constitution thing, I guess that would vary from group to group, and maybe even person to person. I haven't really given that much thought, since it wasn't my primary concern (which in this case is 1A) I think this is more of a vinn diagram question, but I'm not sufficiently literate with an appropriate graphic software to make one. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:27:21 PM EDT
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What kind of identitarian was the group Stewart Rhodes referred to in this video? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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VIDEO (threat comes at about 6:50) I dont know if i feel comfortable with people like this representing the constitution. I've been AFK, and away from arfcom for a while because I've been focused on real world 1A and 2A activism (and grad school). Im all for fighting anarcho commies who beat people up at protests, it's a great time. But one of the core principles of the constitution is free speech and threatening people with violence because of their views isn't what I'm about. These people are basically helping create a reality in which the fascists (literally, the actual fascists) are the only group that actually cares about free speech. This would be less than ideal, to say the least. Could you explain what identitarian means? How is it different from white nationalism? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do identitarians support the constitution? Do they believe it applies to people who aren't part of their identity? |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:35:49 PM EDT
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What kind of identitarian was the group Stewart Rhodes referred to in this video? Quote HistoryQuoted:
What kind of identitarian was the group Stewart Rhodes referred to in this video? How are they different from white nationalists? Are there any issues where they disagree? Do |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 7:54:47 PM EDT
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There seems to be a lot of Concern in this thread........... From what I took away in the video the person speaking said they welcomed blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Gays and people of all colors, races and religions but they didn't want the National Socialists (Nazis) there as part of their group. OP, Have you seen Kyle? Can you show me how tall he is?..............I bet you can...... And yes; I also believe that there is too much "concern". |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 8:05:49 PM EDT
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Well.... No shit
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:27:11 PM EDT
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Oh, come on. We can't let an Oathkeeper thread die this quickly. We haven't even seen an Xzibit meme yet.
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:31:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:34:27 PM EDT
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Oh, come on. We can't let an Oathkeeper thread die this quickly. We haven't even seem an Xzibit meme yet. 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:36:25 PM EDT
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Ummm...you have my undivided attention Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, come on. We can't let an Oathkeeper thread die this quickly. We haven't even seem an Xzibit meme yet. 
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:38:47 PM EDT
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Well...they aren't smart enough to TURN THE FUCKING CAMERA HORIZONTALLY!!
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:40:38 PM EDT
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And fuck Trump. Just another neocon globalist. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 9:42:58 PM EDT
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Ummm...you have my undivided attention Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, come on. We can't let an Oathkeeper thread die this quickly. We haven't even seem an Xzibit meme yet. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 1:33:42 AM EDT
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Couldn't figure out where to post this, so this thread is as good a place as any.
The Man Who Mowed Down “Moldylocks” 
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Posted: 4/30/2017 1:41:22 AM EDT
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Oh, come on. We can't let an Oathkeeper thread die this quickly. We haven't even seen an Xzibit meme yet.  Attached FileThere, ya happy?
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Posted: 4/30/2017 7:02:24 AM EDT
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So did they predict yet another drone missile strike this time? 
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Posted: 4/30/2017 10:52:27 AM EDT
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Apparently an Oathkeepers oath only goes so far. To them the Constitution only applies to the people they want it to. So perchance their oath to keep their oaths were a waste of time. Perhaps, they should have taken an oath to keep their oath to keep their oath about the oath they took?
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