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Posted: 7/6/2017 2:51:00 AM EDT
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Incompetent front office. yay redskins! 
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Posted: 7/6/2017 3:05:29 AM EDT
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the funniest part was that they drafted cousins after giving up the farm for RG3 specifically in case RG didn't work out. IOW, they made the perfect move on draft day (even though they got mercilessly mocked for it), and yet even though their contingency plan worked perfectly--their backup QB turned out to be awesome--they completely pissed away their only good front office move since snyder bought the team. yay redskins! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Incompetent front office. yay redskins! it's bruce allen and dan snyder running the regular washington shit show year in and year out. at least the only off season drama for the skins is over a contract and not their regular insanity that the seahawks seemed to have taken up this year. |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 3:13:32 AM EDT
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the funniest part was that they drafted cousins after giving up the farm for RG3 specifically in case RG didn't work out. IOW, they made the perfect move on draft day (even though they got mercilessly mocked for it), and yet even though their contingency plan worked perfectly--their backup QB turned out to be awesome--they completely pissed away their only good front office move since snyder bought the team. yay redskins! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/6/2017 6:51:42 AM EDT
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Haha, yeah that was pretty bad too, but that was a draft pick that simply didn't pan out. Whereas with the Cousins situation it is an ongoing campaign of incompetence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having said that: I'm trying to think of a team in recent memory that's handled a franchise QB situation worse than the Redskins have handled Cousins and it's just not coming to me. Can any of you think of one?  Ever since JKC died the team has been a joke. 
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Posted: 7/7/2017 12:24:07 AM EDT
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Throw in how his knee injury was handled both times and then the rotating starting gig and while it's not as mind boggling stupid, it's still pretty stupid. Ever since JKC died the team has been a joke. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having said that: I'm trying to think of a team in recent memory that's handled a franchise QB situation worse than the Redskins have handled Cousins and it's just not coming to me. Can any of you think of one? Ever since JKC died the team has been a joke. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 6:44:48 AM EDT
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AKA 'the snyder era'... and there's no end in sight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Having said that: I'm trying to think of a team in recent memory that's handled a franchise QB situation worse than the Redskins have handled Cousins and it's just not coming to me. Can any of you think of one? Ever since JKC died the team has been a joke. |
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Posted: 7/11/2017 1:49:21 AM EDT
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Odds to make the playoffs:
49ers Yes +1500 No -3500 Bears Yes +1000 No -2500 Bengals Yes +165 No -200 Bills Yes +650 No -1000 Broncos Yes +200 No -250 Browns Yes +2000 No -8500 Buccaneers Yes +180 No -225 Cardinals Yes +150 No -185 Chargers Yes +300 No -400 Chiefs Yes -130 No Even Colts Yes +130 No -160 Cowboys Yes -185 No +150 Dolphins Yes +375 No -500 Eagles Yes +200 No -250 Falcons Yes -140 No +110 Giants Yes +120 No -150 Jaguars Yes +400 No -550 Jets Yes +2000 No -8500 Lions Yes +325 No -450 Packers Yes -450 No +325 Panthers Yes Even No -130 Patriots Yes -4000 No +1200 Raiders Yes -165 No +135 Rams Yes +725 No -1200 Ravens Yes +110 No -140 Redskins Yes +375 No -500 Saints Yes +210 No -260 Seahawks Yes -600 No +425 Steelers Yes -300 No +235 Texans Yes +115 No -145 Titans Yes Even No -130 Vikings Yes +180 No -225 |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 2:40:17 PM EDT
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Kind of funny how the most famous Washington professional sports player is a huge Cowboys fan.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 2:01:09 AM EDT
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The World's 50 Most Valuable Sports Teams 2017
Every NFL team made the top 50 except for the Lions, Bills, and Bengals. 1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.2 billion, 5% (NFL) 2. New York Yankees, $3.7 billion, 9% (MLB) 3. Manchester United, $3.69 billion, 11% (Soccer) 4. Barcelona, $3.64 billion, 2% (Soccer) 5. Real Madrid, $3.58 billion, -2% (Soccer) 6. New England Patriots, $3.4 billion, 6% (NFL) 7. New York Knicks, $3.3 billion, 10% (NBA) 8. New York Giants, $3.1 billion, 11% (NFL) 9. San Francisco 49ers, $3 billion, 11% (NFL) 9. Los Angeles Lakers, $3 billion, 11% (NBA) https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/07/12/the-cowboys-and-yankees-top-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams-of-2017/#5d9f74b35018 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/07/12/full-list-the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-2017/#5e8121aa4a05 |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 2:54:49 AM EDT
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Official 2017 Cowboys discussion thread".
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Posted: 7/13/2017 3:17:19 AM EDT
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Official 2017 Cowboys discussion thread".
But seriously, over the past couple of weeks/pages the Redskins have been talked about way more than the Cowboys have been. Interestingly though it seems the majority of the time the Cowboys are brought up it's by a non-Cowboys fan. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 4:33:37 AM EDT
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The 29 teams that didn't move to a different city will each be getting $55.2M from the relocation fees resulting from the Chargers, Raiders, and Rams moving.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:45:20 AM EDT
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:13:21 AM EDT
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The 29 teams that didn't move to a different city will each be getting $55.2M from the relocation fees resulting from the Chargers, Raiders, and Rams moving. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:43:08 AM EDT
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The title of this thread should be changed to "Official 2017 Cowboys discussion thread". 
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Posted: 7/13/2017 12:10:14 PM EDT
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 12:11:52 PM EDT
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Can they add that to their cap space? Probably not, but it would be awesome. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The 29 teams that didn't move to a different city will each be getting $55.2M from the relocation fees resulting from the Chargers, Raiders, and Rams moving. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 6:28:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, I was pretty skeptical of that report a week or two ago that said they were close. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:01:18 PM EDT
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Sounds like they're fine with him playing on the tag again, and revisiting next offseason.
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet.
Link 1. Tag him again for the low-low price of $35M fully guaranteed. 2. Offer him the best deal when he becomes a free agent with teams like the Browns probably willing to give him a long term deal paying him around $30M a season. And even if the Redskins did offer him the best deal there's no guarantee he'd even accept it. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:24:10 PM EDT
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If that ends up being the case then if the Redskins want Cousins to play for them in 2018 they have only two options: 1. Tag him again for the low-low price of $35M fully guaranteed. 2. Offer him the best deal when he becomes a free agent with teams like the Browns probably willing to give him a long term deal paying him around $30M a season. And even if the Redskins did offer him the best deal there's no guarantee he'd even accept it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet.
Link 1. Tag him again for the low-low price of $35M fully guaranteed. 2. Offer him the best deal when he becomes a free agent with teams like the Browns probably willing to give him a long term deal paying him around $30M a season. And even if the Redskins did offer him the best deal there's no guarantee he'd even accept it. Trent Green all over again.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:30:25 PM EDT
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Listening to the radio today I thought of a question, is there a limit to how many times a club can use the franchise tag on a player?
Besides the practical problem of salary cap and the money going up each year. I always thought twice for the franchise tag, then they could use the transitional tag. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:36:27 PM EDT
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If they don't sign him by Monday, I lay odds he's gone at the end of the season. Trent Green all over again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Reports say the Skins and Cousins are not close to a deal. The Redskins have 4 days left to sign Cousins before the chances of him being in Washington next season plummet.
Link 1. Tag him again for the low-low price of $35M fully guaranteed. 2. Offer him the best deal when he becomes a free agent with teams like the Browns probably willing to give him a long term deal paying him around $30M a season. And even if the Redskins did offer him the best deal there's no guarantee he'd even accept it. Trent Green all over again. Of course it didn't seem likely at all that the Redskins would pay Cousins $43.89M fully guaranteed for just two seasons so who knows? At this point the Redskins tagging him again for $35M wouldn't completely shock me. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:42:07 PM EDT
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Listening to the radio today I thought of a question, is there a limit to how many times a club can use the franchise tag on a player? Besides the practical problem of salary cap and the money going up each year. I always thought twice for the franchise tag, then they could use the transitional tag. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:45:30 PM EDT
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It was a discussion Pat Kerwin was having with a redskins fan the other day, he kinda said that but in a way that was a bit confusing.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 7:59:27 PM EDT
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If Cousins becomes a free agent I wonder how seriously the 49ers will go after him or if they'll be more interested in drafting someone (or maybe both). There were reports that Cousins wanted to go to San Fran because of Shananhan but idk how true that is/was.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:29:47 PM EDT
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If Cousins becomes a free agent I wonder how seriously the 49ers will go after him or if they'll be more interested in drafting someone (or maybe both). There were reports that Cousins wanted to go to San Fran because of Shananhan but idk how true that is/was. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:33:26 PM EDT
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Based on how things look right now it's hard to imagine the Browns not offering Cousins the best deal. Now whether or not he'd actually want to play in the misery factory is another matter. It's not like Cousins needs the money. A rarity for a young player that's never signed a big long term deal.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:59:20 PM EDT
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Based on how things look right now it's hard to imagine the Browns not offering Cousins the best deal. Now whether or not he'd actually want to play in the misery factory is another matter. It's not like Cousins needs the money. A rarity for a young player that's never signed a big long term deal. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 10:39:18 PM EDT
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Cousins doesn't need to go to the Browns. Every team in the country that didn't make the playoffs needs a better quarterback. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on how things look right now it's hard to imagine the Browns not offering Cousins the best deal. Now whether or not he'd actually want to play in the misery factory is another matter. It's not like Cousins needs the money. A rarity for a young player that's never signed a big long term deal. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 10:40:36 PM EDT
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Come to think of it: when was the last time the Browns had a consistently above average or better QB? All that comes to my mind is Otto Graham and that was over half a century ago.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 10:59:38 PM EDT
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Come to think of it: when was the last time the Browns had a consistently above average or better QB? All that comes to my mind is Otto Graham and that was over half a century ago. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 8:58:48 AM EDT
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NFL network sometimes runs replays of Super Bowl classics and yesterday I watched a bit of XLVII (the blackout bowl). Kind of hard to believe that just 4 years ago Colin Kaepernick was one play away from winning a Super Bowl in which his team trailed 28-6 in the 3rd quarter.
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Posted: 7/14/2017 10:14:44 AM EDT
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NFL network sometimes runs replays of Super Bowl classics and yesterday I watched a bit of XLVII (the blackout bowl). Kind of hard to believe that just 4 years ago Colin Kaepernick was one play away from winning a Super Bowl in which his team trailed 28-6 in the 3rd quarter. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 11:43:54 AM EDT
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Ezekiel Elliott involved in a "late night altercation" at a Dallas area bar.
The victim, a 30 year old man, reportedly got into a verbal altercation with a woman in Elliott's party when Elliot struck the man in the face, breaking his nose, and then left the scene before police arrived. There is video of the victim AFTER the punch, on the floor in pain. Two witnesses collaborated the victim's story. No arrest has been made as Elliott was not at the scene. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 11:52:51 AM EDT
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Ezekiel Elliott involved in a "late night altercation" at a Dallas area bar. The victim, a 30 year old man, reportedly got into a verbal altercation with a woman in Elliott's party when Elliot struck the man in the face, breaking his nose, and then left the scene before police arrived. There is video of the victim AFTER the punch, on the floor in pain. Two witnesses collaborated the victim's story. No arrest has been made as Elliott was not at the scene. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:25:34 PM EDT
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Tweet from a random guy that said he saw Elliot knock a guy out. Time syncs up within minutes of the police call, well before any news came out. Countless people threatening him, calling him a snitch, telling him to delete it. Cowboy Nation... SMH...
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:27:58 PM EDT
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Ezekiel Elliott involved in a "late night altercation" at a Dallas area bar. The victim, a 30 year old man, reportedly got into a verbal altercation with a woman in Elliott's party when Elliot struck the man in the face, breaking his nose, and then left the scene before police arrived. There is video of the victim AFTER the punch, on the floor in pain. Two witnesses collaborated the victim's story. No arrest has been made as Elliott was not at the scene. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:32:20 PM EDT
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That kid's gonna need to learn to control himself if he expects to be in the league for very long. He has nearly unlimited potential, but if he doesn't grow up, he'll find himself penniless in half a decade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ezekiel Elliott involved in a "late night altercation" at a Dallas area bar. The victim, a 30 year old man, reportedly got into a verbal altercation with a woman in Elliott's party when Elliot struck the man in the face, breaking his nose, and then left the scene before police arrived. There is video of the victim AFTER the punch, on the floor in pain. Two witnesses collaborated the victim's story. No arrest has been made as Elliott was not at the scene. Still, he is just 21 years old. It's not like he's 28 and still pulling idiotic shit. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:32:55 PM EDT
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Tweet from a random guy that said he saw Elliot knock a guy out. Time syncs up within minutes of the police call, well before any news came out. Countless people threatening him, calling him a snitch, telling him to delete it. Cowboy Nation... SMH... In case it gets deleted: http://i.imgur.com/pPvNyEz.png?1
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:39:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:36:17 PM EDT
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No new deal for Cousins or Bell
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:42:08 PM EDT
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No new deal for Cousins or Bell Unless of course the Redskins want to tag him again for $35M. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:43:03 PM EDT
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Looks like we'll be getting our wish to see how much Cousins can get on the open market. Unless of course the Redskins want to tag him again for $35M. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:44:27 PM EDT
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No new deal for Cousins or Bell Edit: In perspective, the deal they offered was his full franchise tag this year he is already set to receive, and then only $29M additionally guaranteed money for 5 more years. He will easily, EASILY, make far more than $30M guaranteed in a new contract next off season. The Redskins put out a pretty nasty press release trying to paint Cousins like he is greedy and that they are the victims. Fuck the Redskins. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:53:42 PM EDT
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They will probably Transition tag him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:57:34 PM EDT
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The comments are great so far
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Posted: 7/17/2017 4:59:13 PM EDT
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Rapoport is saying the Redskins wanted to lock Cousins in for 5 more years, but were only willing to guarantee a single additional year (29M in new guaranteed money). I wouldn't take that deal either. Edit: In perspective, the deal they offered was his full franchise tag this year he is already set to receive, and then only $29M additionally guaranteed money for 5 more years. He will easily, EASILY, make far more than $30M guaranteed in a new contract next off season. The Redskins put out a pretty nasty press release trying to paint Cousins like he is greedy and that they are the victims. Fuck the Redskins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No new deal for Cousins or Bell Edit: In perspective, the deal they offered was his full franchise tag this year he is already set to receive, and then only $29M additionally guaranteed money for 5 more years. He will easily, EASILY, make far more than $30M guaranteed in a new contract next off season. The Redskins put out a pretty nasty press release trying to paint Cousins like he is greedy and that they are the victims. Fuck the Redskins. Redskins fans can say "well, that's to be expected," but I think this goes beyond that. I mean it's kind of like inviting your rough around the edges friend to a big family dinner. You might expect him to drink a little too much and make an off color joke, but this is the equivalent of him jumping up on the table, pulling down his pants, and then taking a big dump in front of everyone. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 5:23:01 PM EDT
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I mean it's kind of like inviting your rough around the edges friend to a big family dinner. You might expect him to drink a little too much and make an off color joke, but this is the equivalent of him jumping up on the table, pulling down his pants, and then taking a big dump in front of everyone. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 5:46:28 PM EDT
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The comments are great so far |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 5:47:18 PM EDT
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And then he went home and told his family and friends that he redecorated your dining room for free and you didn't even thank him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I mean it's kind of like inviting your rough around the edges friend to a big family dinner. You might expect him to drink a little too much and make an off color joke, but this is the equivalent of him jumping up on the table, pulling down his pants, and then taking a big dump in front of everyone. |
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