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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. THIS Then we can go scorched earth on the bastards. |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. THIS Then we can go scorched earth on the bastards. Do they vote their board like NRA? Something we could flood and shut down? |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. THIS Then we can go scorched earth on the bastards. Do they vote their board like NRA? Something we could flood and shut down? The NFATCA is so insignificant and tiny that most of us could buy it, were it a business put up for sale, without much of a second thought. To put it in perspective - the NFATCA's annual revenue is less than most attorney or doctors pay in federal taxes per year. It is a mosquito. Annoying, but tiny and made for the purpose of squashing. |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. THIS Then we can go scorched earth on the bastards. Do they vote their board like NRA? Something we could flood and shut down? They would form a new group and continue their trouble making. |
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A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments. They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cliffs noted on who nfatca is and what they're all about? A group of people who invested in NFA (MGs) who support the ATF and the NFA so that they can protect their special status, and by proxy, their investments. They also don't think that commoners should have easy access to NFA stuff...only the "right people." Never had heard of them before this thread... Well, fuck those guys. I want to see what Nolo digs up. |
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More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. THIS Then we can go scorched earth on the bastards. Do they vote their board like NRA? Something we could flood and shut down? The NFATCA is so insignificant and tiny that most of us could buy it, were it a business put up for sale, without much of a second thought. To put it in perspective - the NFATCA's annual revenue is less than most attorney or doctors pay in federal taxes per year. It is a mosquito. Annoying, but tiny and made for the purpose of squashing. View Quote A group like this needs to be crushed out of existence. |
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Sure. Hand crafted it. (hey, they lie, I can lie) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Were they behind the attempted M855 ammo ban? Sure. Hand crafted it. (hey, they lie, I can lie) You say that in jest, but let's wait and see who put that particular bug in the ATF's ear. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if they truly were the root cause. |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious |
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I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious If I want you to buy my $800 suppressor, would it not be good for me if you can't buy a $10 threaded end cap, engrave it, and make your own using an oil filter or other cheap parts? |
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If I want you to buy my $800 suppressor, would it not be good for me if you can't buy a $10 threaded end cap, engrave it, and make your own using an oil filter or other cheap parts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious If I want you to buy my $800 suppressor, would it not be good for me if you can't buy a $10 threaded end cap, engrave it, and make your own using an oil filter or other cheap parts? I hadn't thought about that, then again I've got so many other irons in the fire building a suppressor hadn't even crossed my mind. A cheap .22 home built wouldn't be bad idea. It might be cheaper and easier to just swap out the baffles instead of cleaning it. When I bought my last suppressor the dealer, who had some .22 cans for $100, had a good point. As long as you have to pay $200 for the tax stamp, cheap suppressors will never really sell well. The $100 cans were by some small time outfit and I was told they were a rougher finish and cheaper baffle design. I spent an extra $135 for a Warlock. |
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When said entities are found out. Forward list to site staff mu ha ha.
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Sorry for the off topic question. When do the ballots come out and when is the election? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nolo really should be on the board of directors of some pro firearms organization. He is running for the NRA board this year. There is a thread somewhere Sorry for the off topic question. When do the ballots come out and when is the election? NRA is still offering life time membership for $600. I just called and signed up, hopefully I'll be able to vote this year. |
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I suspect there are other petitions that he doesn't think you need to know about. Like his confidential informant (CI) file and petition for payment of his 20 pieces of silver that he traded for our rights. |
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I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001. Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. They need to hurry up and go the way of the dodo or just quit dicking things up More importantly, we need their member list to find out which companies and which individuals are actively working to screw the rest of the population. I understand the individuals wanting to protect their NFA investments but why would companies conspire to make it more difficult to buy their products? Unless you mean dealers that would get stuck with a bunch of over priced inventory. ETA: not trying to be argumentative here just curious The Companies arent making any money..the DEALERS are....Buy Cheap, sit on them for a couple of years...double your investment when you sell it. Look at just the last TWO years and how much prices have jumped on what used to be the "Affordable" MG's (M-11, M-10, S&W 76, AM-180, Sremple Tube Guns) Not to mention DIAS and LLs |
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Did anyone look at their membership dues?
Lifetime Membership -Lifetime Members shall be those members whose contribution to the Association is in the amount of $25,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within five years. Lifetime members shall pay no annual membership dues. View Quote Plankholder Membership -Plankholder Members shall be those members whose one time contribution to the Association is $5,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within one year. Plankholder Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . |
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Did anyone look at their membership dues? Plankholder Membership -Plankholder Members shall be those members whose one time contribution to the Association is $5,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within one year. Plankholder Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Did anyone look at their membership dues? Lifetime Membership -Lifetime Members shall be those members whose contribution to the Association is in the amount of $25,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within five years. Lifetime members shall pay no annual membership dues. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . Fuck that. |
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You're truly a man among men. My greatest appreciation NOLO. If ever in the Springs please PM me, I'd like to buy you a drink and say thank you in face.
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Did anyone look at their membership dues? Plankholder Membership -Plankholder Members shall be those members whose one time contribution to the Association is $5,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within one year. Plankholder Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Did anyone look at their membership dues? Lifetime Membership -Lifetime Members shall be those members whose contribution to the Association is in the amount of $25,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within five years. Lifetime members shall pay no annual membership dues. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . What an eminently reasonable membership requirement. |
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Don't forget the ATF informant group will have a booth at the upcoming NRA convention
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Don't forget the ATF informant group will have a booth at the upcoming NRA convention View Quote I haven't forgotten. I intend to get as many fliers as possible and deposit them in the circular file. If I'm not too busy I might waste prodigious amounts of time talking to them so they can't talk to people that don't know any better. |
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In what states was a trust not acceptable for NFA? I saw at least one in another thread.
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Did anyone look at their membership dues? Plankholder Membership -Plankholder Members shall be those members whose one time contribution to the Association is $5,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within one year. Plankholder Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Did anyone look at their membership dues? Lifetime Membership -Lifetime Members shall be those members whose contribution to the Association is in the amount of $25,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. This contribution may be paid in installments, but must be paid in full within five years. Lifetime members shall pay no annual membership dues. Silver Patron Membership -Silver Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $1,000 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Silver Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $1,000. Benefactor Membership -Dealer Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $500 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Dealer Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $500. Supporting Membership -Collector Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $250 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Collector Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $250. Associate –Associate Members shall be those members whose initial contribution to the Association is $50 and whose membership is approved by the Board of Directors. Associate Members shall pay annual membership dues in the amount of $50 . Know what I notice more than the $ amount? Everyone has to be approved by the board. In other words, Even if you come up with the $, which is steep.....you have to be known well enough by someone with leverage within the group to get in. It is a closed club of like minded people.....not that I think that is illegal.....but it does show a certain belief that they are insular and think only the right people should participate, and I am willing to bet that ,nobody who is accepted is believed to think that the NFA is a bad thing. |
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Illinois. In order to own an SBR/SBS, they have to hold a C&R. Trusts/corps can't hold a C&R FFL, so they have to file individually. Obama's signature gun control measure largely has the effect of legalizing SBRs in his home state. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So ATF sent me a letter saying they received my foia and assigned it a complex track. The public liaison listed, Stephanie Boucher, has ignored my phone calls for the last three months in a separate foia case so who knows what this means other than they stopped the clock for a bit.
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So ATF sent me a letter saying they received my foia and assigned it a complex track. The public liaison listed, Stephanie Boucher, has ignored my phone calls for the last three months in a separate foia case so who knows what this means other than they stopped the clock for a bit. How long can they do that for? I was not aware that the clock on a FOIA could be stopped. |
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